Chiefs Should Keep An Eye On Patrick Crayton Situation In Dallas
by Joel Thorman on Jun 1, 2010 10:46 AM CDT
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PrintThe Chiefs don't need my advice. I'm sure they're already doing this but it would be smart if they were keeping an eye on the situation with Patrick Crayton in Dallas.
The Cowboys receiver has reportedly asked for his release. He feels he's the "insurance guy" in Dallas and barring any injuries, will be released by the team in training camp. He's been staying away from OTAs thus far.
According to Crayton's agent, the Cowboys would prefer to trade his client. But because of a $2 million salary, a trade would be difficult to get done. And if it hasn't happened so far, it may only happen with an injury.
If the Chiefs haven't made a move at this point, I suspect they won't be giving up draft picks to snag Crayton, especially when the writing is on the wall for his release.
Todd Haley has history with Crayton in Dallas. Crayton was once a rookie tryout player while Haley was with the Cowboys -- something pointed out at the Chiefs rookie minicamp.
The Chiefs need all the receivers they can get so this is a situation to keep an eye on.
For the record, I don't see any draft picks being exchanged. But if Crayton is released, he may be able to see more playing time in Kansas City, which is intriguing to a player looking to "breakout" and garner a long-term contract.
(H/T bobby sippio!)
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I think this would be great for the Cheifs!
I just hope that the pieces fall into place to make it happen!
Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!
agreed
I’m sure Haley is loving that situation right now! Adding Crayton would make this an unbelievable offseason for the Chiefs!
by Hail2DaChiefs on Jun 1, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Bag of Poop > T.O.
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Jun 1, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
your right
55 rec 829 yards 5 tds 15.1 avg on Buffalo(you see them last year?) good ass run blocker your right lets go with another diva who cant get separation….just sayin I would rather look at him than Crayton because he can do more for you than he can. It would be sweet to run a 3 wide set Bowe Chambers and Owen w a TE and force them to go nickel and just JC that ass!
Funny...
He > Jazzy, called the shit poop
Things to get the Chiefs back on the winning side of football:
1. Haley resign as offensive coordinator or do the following;
a. Feed JC more
b. Take the cuffs off of Cassel and let him air it out
2. Fire Clancy "Calls" Playslikeass
by kcchiefsfan72 on Jun 1, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
Haley was in Dallas when T.O. was there. He told Jerry Jones that the organization would never win a championship with a player like T.O. on their team. There is NO chance for T.O. in KC.
Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!
Well if it's not Crayton > Chambers or Crayton > Bowe
then he’ll be nothing but a distraction, because he wants out of Dallas to be a starter.
Predictions:
This year will be better
yeah, I am all for this...haley always talks of crayton and his work ethic.
getting those types of guys….he can fight it out with urban for 3/4 since mccluster is the OW not the 3 or 4 :)
Team Pioli/Haley
I like Crayton
and would love to see him in a Chiefs uniform.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
Be careful for what you wish for
I realize I'm late to the party but...I'm on Twitter.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jun 1, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions
I live in Dallas folks....
…and Crayton’s a cry-baby. I read it a lot all last year, and I don’t see him fitting in with Pioli/Haley’s “right 53” mantra. Probably a decent receiver, but not worth the trouble he might be to pick up. My two cents….
...."I never said most of the things I said." - Yogi Berra
And he'd be the 4th receiver in KC as well
so I don’t see him being any happier here.
Predictions:
This year will be better
More of a 3rd since
an injury or suspension of Bowe or Chambers would put him in the starting lineup. DMC isn’t going to be a fulltime WR and Crayton is better than Urban. My main concern is Crayton and Chambers are both 31, and we need to have some longterm options at WR.
I think McCluster will actually be the primary slot receiver
Unless he can’t pick up the playbook quickly enough (which I don’t think will be a problem for him) there’s no reason he won’t be the starting slot receiver.
Predictions:
This year will be better
Even if he starts as the slot
I doubt he’d be the number 1 or 2 receiver. Which means that an injury or suspension would still put him in the starting lineup.
Unless we decide to run a 3 WR set to start the game
then we have 3 starting WR’s…
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
trade?
In this situation, Dallas will probably release him. Why dont teams offer a 7th round pick for him? In the end Dallas get something over nothing. I always see these players getting released w/o compensation for their origianl team. In this case, KC could make sure he comes to us. If a team is waiting for him to be released there is no guarantee he chooses KC, right?
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
Wouldn't he go to waivers?
I’m not clear on all of the details, but if he went to waivers, he may not have a choice where he goes.
Only players with less than 4 years in the NFL can be waived
Once you’re a veteran, you’re not subject to the waiver wire
$2 million isn't a lot (relatively)
With a salary cap (yes, yes, I realize this is an uncapped year…) of $100+ million, the average player on a team makes ~$2 million. I can’t imagine his salary being an impediment. Instead, I think it’s his age. He’s 31 yo. He doesn’t have more than a couple seasons left…
Crayton has a few seasons left in him...
He is underused in Dallas, and the fact of the matter is that he would have gotten about 20 more catches last season if he started over Roy Williams. Crayton has never been fast (though he is quick), and he is good at finding holes in zone coverage, he uses his quickness to be open momentarily, and he has a great unspoken rapport with Romo (which may take some time to develop with yall’s qb).
If we pick him up, who goes?
Lawrence or Urban?
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." ~Yogi Berra~
Lance Long
The poster formerly known as "ktr17x"
"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left."
"In democratic America, Flowers and Berry pick YOU"
But he's the next Welker.
(Still holding out hope for the kid though.)
"Crunch" Berry
"Duster" McCluster
He's as good as gone
unless he made some dramatic improvement in the offseason program. He gets an A for effort, but he’s like a crash test dummy on the field…doesn’t seem to have the awareness necessary to play at this level.
Predictions:
This year will be better
I don't think it's worth it.
We need someone better than Crayton.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." ~Yogi Berra~
Plus, if he's still looking to "breakout" at the age of 31, he can't be all that.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." ~Yogi Berra~
well
at least we don’t have to worry about Mark Bradley this year. That dude couldn’t be trusted to hold a baby!
Crayton would be a big upgrade over anyone not named Bowe and Chambers.... and McCluster is yet to be determined.
I’m not sure how bringing him in to compete could be a bad thing. Crayton has proven he can play in the NFL which is better than almost our entire WR corps. Bring him on.
"Crunch" Berry
"Duster" McCluster
I like this
I think Crayton would be comfortable playing for Haley again. I believe he also played with WR coach Richie Anderson in Dallas as well.
Crayton isn’t a #1 WR but he could start alongside Bowe or Chambers. Start Crayton and Bowe with Chambers as number 3. Urban 4th WR and McCluster in the slot.
Get him in here so Cassel can start meshing with him.
Plus he wouldn’t be that much of an investment….in case he didn’t work out.
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jun 1, 2010 11:45 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Also
It doesn’t hurt that he returned 2 punts for TD’s last season.
Big plus to have return options.
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jun 1, 2010 11:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I only like him for depth...
Other than that… My whole family are Cowboy fans and they say he’s a huge baby..
Either way, it’s
1) Bowe
2) Chambers
3) Crayton
Not sure if he’d be happy being the #3, but it’s better than not playing at all in Dallas.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
It's also better than
1. Watching the receiver across the field from you gettin’ paid.
2. Watching Jerry Jones over pay Roy Williams and thus giving him more playing time because he doesn’t want it to look like a bad buisness deal.
3. Watching Jerry Jones select Dez Bryant and knowing that Dez is going to be a huge force in the leauge.
"Crunch" Berry
"Duster" McCluster
1 & 2 is true...
3 is … Well… You get it.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
That was an abberation.
Crayton is a solid punt returner. He will move forward for positive yardage, but he’s not a game breaker.
Everyone is acting like receivers that are better than Patrick Crayton are just dropping from the sky.
Who on our roster is better? Bowe and Chambers, that’s it. Who is available, or has rumblings of being available, is better than Crayton? Nobody but TO and that sure as hell isn’t happening.
"Crunch" Berry
"Duster" McCluster
Really
I think at this point in TO career, Crayton may be just as good if not better.
Crayton is a fast dude. TO drops a lot of balls.
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jun 1, 2010 11:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree but, when motivated, TO is a monster.
And he WILL be motivated this season…. for somebody other than the Chiefs.
"Crunch" Berry
"Duster" McCluster
shhh don't say crayton is a fast dude or else Al Davis wiill hear
Other Arenas wish they could be like Arrowhead Stadium as it prepares to turn a new Page on Chiefs legacy. Rivals think they are going to be fine on an island of Flowers, but when they get hit by what feels like a Carr, they'll never be able to eat a Berry ever again.
Crayton's not fast.
He’s open and runs for positive yardage, but I think that’s more a factor of Romo putting the ball in the right place. Crayton doesn’t run away from anyone, including DL.
Somebodies got a case of the dropsies...
and it’s Patrick Crayton. Add up his fumbles and drops and you’ll think he already was a Chief.
by The_Bernard_Pollard_Rule on Jun 1, 2010 11:52 AM CDT reply actions
Just what I was going to say
He fumbled against US for God’s sake.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
i don't think so
Crayton wants to start … so who is going to knock out?
Bowe? not unless he’s traded
Chambers? nope
McCluster? and make our 2nd round even worse? not likely
Copper was a Cowboy...
and the Cowboys kept Crayton. Crayton is a solid player and while Copper played adequately, you’re wrong about comparing the two.
Hell, I forgot all about Copper!
I was going to say we may still need some depth at WR, depending on how Urban, Lawrence, Long, or some of our UDFA’s do, but really, I guess Crayton really isn’t a big upgrade over Copper. I’m not sure how happy Crayton would be here either, as I’m not convinvced he would get alot more playing time than he does in Dallas, unless we have an injury issue. I also think Cottam and Maoeki will both be utilized more, which just adds more weapons for Cassell. With our rushing game, our passing offense should really open up this season. McCluster is going to be fun to watch! He is so damn versitile, and fast, that I can see him being an opposing defense’s nightmare. If he gets in the flat, on a screen or slant, with any seperation, and he has a good chance of being gone! We definitiely added some speed and weapons on offense. I’ll bet Cassell is orgasmic! I think the Chargers will be pretty surprised about the offense they face, on September 13th, and I still smell an upset, on National Television!
There once was a man from Nantucket......Nevermind.
Is Austin between contracts?
I don’t see the Cowboys being in a hurry to part with their insurance policy. Austin’s injury history is too spotty. And I don’t see anybody eager to spend a pick on a player who can likely be obtained later, without one.
Bowe still has a lot to prove in terms of reliability. Is he anything but a decoy on 3rd-and-must?
Austin is a restricted free agent...
and he is tendered at the highest amount. So it would take a 1st and 3rd to get him (not that you are looking to sign him away).
And you are right, there is a ton of depth at WR in Dallas until you look closely.
1. Austin: injury prone and while the Cowboys wanted to get him onto the field, only last year was he healthy enough to play meaningful time.
2. Roy Williams: Huge disappointment, not a #1 WR and he doesn’t draw double teams. He had stone hands last year and while I think he will work hard this year, he certainly isn’t a sure thing.
3. Dez Bryant: Rookie with questionable decision making. He’s looked AMAZING, but that doesn’t mean it will translate onto the field. Martellus Bennet has looked AWESOME in practice, but has yet to produce on the field.
4. Sam Hurd: I love the guy, but he too is injury prone and has yet to put up substantial stats. He’s a great special teams player, but there’s no evidence that he will be good if called upon.
5. Kevin Ogletree: Quick, fast player, and everyone is in love with him. He made a few great catches this year and he certainly seems like he can be a player. Besides Austin and Dez, he gives me reason to hope.
6. Jesse Holley: Looks like Fitzgerald, plays like Jane.
Crayton would be insurance
here too: if Bowe gets into trouble, Chambers plays like he already got his contract, or McCluster just isn’t an NFL receiver. That said, I’d absolutely take him.
Is it just me or does McCluster remind you of mini Larry Fitzgerald (?)
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
I mean... looks and personality wise.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
I live in Dallas as well . . .
and Crayton would be a great slot receiver plus allow McCluster time to develop. The key is cost! Pioli will NOT overpay for a slot receiver . . .
i wouldn't think pay would have much to do with it
no salary cap this year and we are about 50 million below the normal cap number anyway.
this will be about where/how/if Crayton fits
So Pioli will under pay for an unproductive player...
And $2 mill isn’t that much for a veteran who is still productive. Heck, Vets are paid every day more than this and they don’t see the field.
hes growing old
injury prone and looking at his stats from last couple years this is the last thing the chiefs need to do is give up any draft picks for a reciever who hasnt been a factor on a team ( the cowboy ) who were actually light in the reciever core after t.o,s departure. no way !
What?
You are so ignorant of the Cowboys that you shouldn’t even be allowed to speak. Crayton has never been injured substantially. He played well and compiled stats that would be impressive if the Cowboys actually allowed him on the field more rather than playing Roy Williams, who is just a load.
You disappointment me.
No to giving up ANYTHING foer Crayton, OR Picking up his inflated contract.
What role would Crayton play here???
He wouldn’t be our #1 or #2, he wouldn’t be our slot guy over DMC. He wouldn’t be our special team’s ace like Copper. He’d be competing with Urban for #4, and I think Urban is more of the possession guy we need, and he’s a year and a half younger. I’d rather keep a developmental kid like Lawrence at the back of the roster than a vet like Crayton.
I’d take Crayton for nothing, under a vet minimum contract, to let him compete, but that’s about it.
Crayton is good enough that he's not going to KC for the vet min.
The Dolphins will swoop in before yall. Your seriously underestimating his value on the free agent market, but I do agree that there isn’t any reason at this point to trade picks for him.
He is not one of "The Right 53"
Not Pioli’s type of guy.
That's crap.
Crayton occasionally mouthes off with the press, but he’s not a malcontent. He’s a good productive player who is occasionally emotional. As a Cowboys fan, I’m sad to see him go, if he actually goes anywhere.
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