Chiefs Rookie Eric Berry Enters The Kansas City Barbecue Debate
Possibly the most divisive topic in Kansas City: Who's got the best barbecue?
If you've been reading Arrowhead Pride for some time, then you know where Chris and I stand. Oklahoma Joe's is far and away the best. Specifically, a Z-man with fries (those fries!) may be the best order in Kansas City.
Well, Eric Berry has entered the debate.
He tweeted on Wednesday night that he was headed out to get some barbecue.
From Gates.
He said it was "on point" and he's right. It is good. But if he truly wants to experience the best meal in town, turn that car west and head to Oklahoma Joe's.
He's new to the city so we'll give him the benefit of the doubt but we can't continue to see Berry display questionable judgment like this.
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We got to stop all this foolishness Jack Stack is the best, OK joes is just that OK
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by teabaggingexper on May 27, 2010 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i can't believe this is anyone's opinion
the martin city locale counts for something but seriously? I understand people’s cases for a lot of different places but jack stack just doesn’t make sense as an option for best. i bet you loved kc masterpiece too.
by liquorstoreclerk on May 27, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Sometimes the username
is a clue into how worthy the comment/commenter are. Granted, he did get a rec.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on May 27, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
HI! MAY I HELP YOU!
If you don’t know what that means you will be promptly expelled to the Nebraska or Oklahoma boarder by the proper authorities.
Now, I understand there is a ton of great BBQ in KC. But, to be dismissive of Gates BBQ is…well…in short….fighting words sir!
I have been eating…nay…introvenously injecting Gates BBQ since about circa 1985. Back when Gates on State Line and 435 had that back room with the bull on the wall. With those giant leather chairs. God I miss that room…most comfortable room to gorge yourself on BBQ…ever. It was always cool and dark too…loved that.
Anyways, the thought of Berry eating Beef on Bun with fries brings a tear to my eye. Beef on Bun with fries is the greats sandwich in KC…period.
Now, I hear people saying Gates has the best sauce in town. I think there is a problem with that. Gates, (unlike most other BBQ in town) uses a pickle steaming base when BBQing their Meat (bet you didnt know that). The pickle base uniquely blends with the Gates sauce. Gates sauce on anything other than Gates meat kinda doesnt work. Its not bad…but it just isnt quite the right balance. My vote for best KC BBQ sauce that you can put on ANYTHING…would be KC Masterpiece…its the universal sauce.
And, why do you people never talk about Haywards BBQ? Thats another BBQ that I have been frequenting since the 80s. Ive been out of KC for 5 years and havent been back. But if memory serves it is on College and Quivera. Back in the buildings in the North East corner of that intersection. BEST burnt ends in KC…period. Go there and get the sampler platter with burnt ends. Seriously…I want one of you guys to go have lunch there…if you never have…and report back to me…because this lack of Haywards talk must stop.
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 27, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen..
My first comment ever got flagged on a similar post because I asked if anyone knew about Hayward’s (they thought I was advertising). I grew up in Overland Park, moved to Florida in 1980, and still remember the combo BBQ sandwich with fondness. They relocated right after. I have not made it back since, but my brother has and says it’s still great. I order the sauce from time to time to bring back the memories.
BTW the Kansas side a’int so bad for all the BBQ snobs.
by pompanokcfan on May 27, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmm...pomp
how old are yah and what schools did ya go to here? maybe I know you haha. You sound like someone I might know.
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 27, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Born and raised in KC the best BBQ is...
Barbecued Donkey
I hear philip river's vag smells like gates...
Extra Hot! Sick’em Berry, Sick’em
58 forever.
Yeah
Gates sausage was far from pedestrian, and I love the extra hot sauce.
Rosedales BBQ is rarely mentioned. I like their half bird best in KC That spicy hot cole slaw is reallt good too. I guess they use the juice from those hot pickles. Clears your nose with the hot chinese mustard taste.
"The best way to convince a fool that he is wrong is to let him have his way" Josh Billings
Kansas City Chiefs - 2020 Team of the Decade
OK Joe's
I have only been to OK Joes once and it wasn’t the original, but the sauce reminded me of my high school cafeteria. Big Ts is a slept on joint, and I have yet to try LCs but I hear good things. Currently Gates is my favorite, but I am looking for a place to take its spot!
by ImaShoYall on May 27, 2010 8:31 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Gotta go the the one in the gas station on the kansas side...
not sure exactly where it’s at
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on May 27, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
OK Joes is just OK
Jack Stack is OK as well, so is Gates, and Bryants for that matter. LC’s is SUBLIME. AMAZING. Sorry, just got a lil excited there…
LC's rocks, guaranteed
Burnt End Sandwich … mmmmmmmmmmm
and Bryant’s … oh yeah
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Rec’d for mentioning Z-man and fries…..mmmmmmmmmm z-man
home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!
by Holmeslice on May 27, 2010 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I knew you'd reply to this brother....
this post made me wanna wait another hour and a half in line for a Z-Man….would be cool to wait with Berry in line
"the Chiefs and their fans, well, we're a family..."
Okie Joes
MMMMMMM – enough said!
Gates and Jack Stack are good though.
Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.
ok joe's
Gates is acceptable. Short ends are the best, there. OK Joes have terrific ribs. My favorite is Winslow’s on the River Market.
by Hell'sKitchenRoyal on May 27, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions
I also got a hunch
We’ll see a lot of “no homo” peppered throughout this post.
by Bims on May 27, 2010 9:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Gates has THE best sauce in KC.
That sauce, on Joe’s meat… Gave me the best orgasm i’ve ever had.
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
Gates' sauce is better than OK Joe's
but nothing can touch my man Arthur Bryants sauce, hands down best sauce in town.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Bryants Original is just that
original… there is nothing like it. I order it and get it shipped in to California for my summer grilling. I actually need to re-up soon.
...And as the roar of 80,000 red-clad great plains warriors fills the hallowed halls of Arrowhead, it will strike fear into the hearts of lesser men. For on that field, individual men toil for something greater than individual honors. They toil as brothers-in-arms, as 53 spirits striving towards a single purpose and driven by a single goal: The glory that comes with vanquishing your foes. They will achieve their birthright, they will be champions.
by Sudden on May 27, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+29 on getting sauce shipped to CA
I get panic attacks out in SF whenever I run low on AB’s original, AB’s Sweet Heat, Gate’s original, and Gate’s Extra Hot. I gotta have all 4 at all times or else I’m one cranky dude
by Another Failed Tedford QB on May 27, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gate;s extra hot
is my personal favorite sauce
by liquorstoreclerk on May 27, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
flagged for another "importing" story...
o wait, ur talking about bbq sauce and not women. nevermind. two totally different things…unless ur conan o’brien.
by MountainManMike on May 27, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
i used to have my family ship it to me out here in colorado.
now, with my family living in colorado, i have to make trips to kc to pick it up.
by MountainManMike on May 27, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet you could find it online.
OK Joes has a BBQ store where they sell all sorts of sauces and shit. They might have a website.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on May 28, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
You really shouldve said "No Homo" at the end of your comment.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on May 27, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If the sauce in giving you an orgasm
you are holding your meat wrong. I am not going to lunch with you by the way. Lol…..;>}
"The Hammer"
no homo
Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!
HMM what to do what to do
Can’t figure out If I should REC or FLAG this post???
I have a feeling that 2010 will be a defining year for the Kansas City Chiefs. Do we become the 2001 Patriots or footballs version of the royals??
by Cowboynchrist on May 27, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Off the field issues
He hasn’t even played a down of pro football. :o
May
And he won’t be on a field until September, so we might as well find something to talk about until then.
by ImaShoYall on May 27, 2010 8:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I knew you Thormans had good taste
Pulled pork, slaw and fries to share.
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb84/marcdlarsen/225bdf24.jpg
by mightykc on May 27, 2010 8:37 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I sent a friend of mine to Oklahoma Joes
He was in Olathe (or how he pronounced it Olath) and absolutely LOVED it. He said he had the best everything over there. Before he left to head west he went back, and had 3 whole chickens wrapped up for him.
Unfortunately it wasn’t enough to make it all the way to San Diego, San Francisco and back.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Well, you know Eric Bery has been in Tennesee
where they have that sour assed vinegary sauce. Nasty, absolutely nasty. Anything must be an improvement.
"The Hammer"
Actually you are thinking Georgia, and North Carolina...
Memphis BBQ is all about the Brown Sugar in the BBQ sauce.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Isn't Memphis all about the dry rub BBQ. That never made sense to me, BBQ with no sauce.
"There is no charge for awesomeness" - Kung Fu Panda
The do a bunch of dry rub... but there is always a sweet BBQ sauce nearby.
I believe Georgia is dry rub… with a vinegar sauce that they put over top of it. They also like to smoosh the coleslaw on the BBQ. I never understood that….
Go Chiefs!!!!
Memphis is the center of the dry vs. wet debate
They specialize in ribs served either with the rub (dry) or basted with sauce. The sauce is usually a sweeter tomato based sauce than KC.
KC specialized more in brisket and a tangy tomato based sauce…KC sauce usually has a kick of some kind, either a sour bite or a mild heat
KC is hands down the best. Ive had memphis BBQ and it is ok…I would probably rank TX BBQ as second best region for BBQ…east coast BBQ is hardly even edible
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I had some of that sour assed sauce in North Carolina,
and I was told the sauce was a Memphis style sauce. So that is what I was going by.
"The Hammer"
north carolina sauce is pretty much vinegar water
its kinda clear and watery…if urs was thick, then it might be a memphis one…a bad one
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
You cant compare KC/Texas BBQ to Tennessee/ North Carolina BBQ
KC/Tex BBQ is beef based. Tenn/NC is pork and whole hog based
It is like comparing the Chiefs to the Royals. It just doesnt work. Here in Vegas we have a Memphis BBQ. It is awesome. I get there King size pork on bun with sweet potato and slaw on the side. But, I could never compare it to a Gates Beef on Bun…it is a completely different animal. I would have better luck comparing a Big Mac to KFC extra crispy.
Oh, and KC stomps Texas BBQ. I was watching this program where they sent KC and Texas BBQ to California for a taste test. Texas won. I had half a mind to drive there and stooge slap every one of those Left coast monkeys.
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 27, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya in NC they don't even know what brisket is...
Yet there was a guy at the Asheville Farmers Market that had some killer brisket… he was from TN. He had a ‘special sauce’ that was vinegar based, and extremely hot. A mixture of that sauce, and the hot bbq sauce was awesome. From my visit in Asheville the best BBQ I had was actually chicken.
The quality of beef in this region is pretty poor compared to Kansas City…
Go Chiefs!!!!
if your talking about ribs, noone in KC eats beef ribs
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
He went to school in Knoxville
which is right by the Carolina border, clear on the other side of the state. Knoxville has a lot more in common with the Carolinas than it does with Memphis…
The Kansas City Royals; Successfully failing since 1986
Ate at LC's for the first time a couple weeks ago and it was pretty damn good as well...
But still gotta go with OK Joes
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on May 27, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions
New AP Rule
Can’t talk about BBQ until 11 am, because now this fat kid is hungry! :)
by Mostate44 on May 27, 2010 9:13 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
If your in Springfield.
Buckinghams ain’t too bad. I take my money to The Rib Shack though. HUGE Portions usually mean they skimp on quality. Not Here. Everything they do is top quality. When I can’t get up North, I take my money there.
by BucktheFroncos on May 27, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I tried Arthur Bryants & Gates
while I was in KC last year. And some chain BBQ joint that I can’t remember the name of right now. One thing I found across the board was that BBQ sauce in KC is wayyyyy different than what I’m used to here in Cali. It was more tangy than sweet & I’m used to sweet. That was the only thing that disappointed me over all. But the meat was TO DIE FOR at all the places :)
by HeatherChiefsLvr on May 27, 2010 9:21 AM CDT reply actions
The tang and the spices in the sauce grow on you
after you have been exposed to them for a long enough time…all that bland, only sweet CA BBQ sauce just wont do it for you and you will feel an emptiness because your sauce is lacking somthing…something that only can be found in KC
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I believe you...
but in the meantime, I like my sweet sauces….lol
by HeatherChiefsLvr on May 27, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Heather, when you go to the store look for
Curley’s Original Barbecue Sauce. It is made in Hutchinson, Kansas. Great stuff. Try it, you’ll love it.
"The Hammer"
I may have to get it online...
not sure I’ve ever seen that in the stores…now you have me all curious n junk.
by HeatherChiefsLvr on May 27, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Have you tried Sweet Baby Rays?
It is a pretty good sweet BBQ sauce, and more importantly it is 99 cent for a bottle.
Go Chiefs!!!!
no, never heard of it..
i’m guilty of buying KC masterpiece or Hunts…..I admit it. lol
by HeatherChiefsLvr on May 27, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll try anything once...
It is pretty good, and I’m going to assume it is from TN.
Go Chiefs!!!!
how ironic!!
there is a story on yahoo.com right now about the best tasting store bought BBQ sauce & it shows Sweet Baby Rays took the #1 spot with a taste test & KC Masterpiece came in 2nd.
I thought it was ironic since we had this post today & you just told me about SBR sauce. lol
by HeatherChiefsLvr on May 27, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That is funny...
It is pretty tasty so I wouldn’t doubt that it has won awards… I’m more of a fan of Cattleman’s
Go Chiefs!!!!
poor heather
you are missing one of the great joys in life….one that rivals the greatest
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
WOAH WAOH WAOH
i mean Zarda wheeeewwww
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on May 27, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw a bottle of Zarda the other day at Kroger...
Its the first time I have seen a bottle this far East of Kansas City. I cried a tear of joy.
Go Chiefs!!!!
NICE i Live in south Florida so i have to order it on net or get friends to hook it up
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on May 27, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm in Louisville, KY... so I hear ya!
Go Chiefs!!!!
I think Zards is overrated
Its kinda like the poor mans Smoke Stack…Jack Stack…or Fidoras or whatever they are calling themselves now. Dont get me wrong. Compared to all BBQ everywhere Zardas is good. But if I can go to Gates, Bryants, Haywards, Jack Stack, etc….well…
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 27, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
All of those places are over 1000 miles away for me...
Its been many years since I have even tasted Zarda, but it is one of those things that reminds me of home. As I said it has been a long long time, but wasn’t Zarda served at Gates?
Go Chiefs!!!!
I dont think at Gates
But I remeber Zardas BBQ poping up in odd places way back when. But seriously, the only time I would have Zardas was when I was over in Oletha. I think its somewhere off 69…and I was too lazy to go to another BBQ place. So, it was like…im driving….I see it…..man I feel like BBQ….im too hungry to make it to gates or haywards. I think that used to be the thought process.
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 27, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm it has to of been at least 15 years since I've had Zarda...
I wonder where I had it at now… LOL
Go Chiefs!!!!
Maybe your thinking of Zardas Dairy Queen
I dont know why…but I remember some kinda link there
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 28, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Why the hell is he eating BBQ?
He has a the NFL to prepare for. He should not be eating junk food! C’mon Haley, get a hold of your players!
and for the record, BBQ at home is always the most satisfying
Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.
BBQ is NOT junk food
it is truly gourmet!
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Thats what you call BBQ huh?
sad…so sad
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
well now u are just being redonkulous
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he meant the Burger King ribs?...

by RA_ChiefsFan on May 27, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Burger King likes the word "Grill"
Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.
its sad that there are no decent BBQ places down here in NOLA
that I actually considered seeking these out just to get a fix
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
although i know how...i have no equipment for it
apartment restrictions, storage space, etc….saving up for some, but still a ways away
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Have one of these shipped to you

Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.
I had one of those...
when I lived down in Miami and had the same restrictions at my apartment… definitely not the same. Sure it saves on space but man how I would’ve loved to have just a cheap little Weber grill. He’s better off just cooking something in his oven.
by RA_ChiefsFan on May 27, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
actually, i just drive 100 miles to a shack out in the middle of nowhere
wheb i start 2 get the bbq shakes…its passable bbq…once i get my own place rather than rent…it will be all better
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
and when did they start serving green tea?
and on that note…why order the fries? doesnt that defeat the purpose of the other two items?
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
man...
you are really phucking observant to catch the “green tea” in that pic. I just looked again & it took me a minute to catch that. LOL
by HeatherChiefsLvr on May 27, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
how doyou know it's green tea, and not black?
I think this is McDonalds’s in an Asian country.
Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.
Let's not get silly
I’m all for players eating right and being prepared, but come on! What good is it to play in KC if you aren’t allowed to eat BBQ? You’re just being blasphemous calling Gates junk food!
Sir, it's all relative to your personal eating habits
Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.
This line...
“He’s new to the city so we’ll give him the benefit of the doubt but we can’t continue to see Berry display questionable judgment like this.” Is incredible.
I refuse to believe that the best BBQ in Kansas City is on the Kansas Side.
Sorry (kind of) to offend all you Johnson County types, but that’s like saying the best schnitzel in Cold War Germany was in East Berlin.
As far as it goes, I’d say Arthur Bryant’s has the best meat, and Gates has the best sauce. For just straight KC style BBQ (that is, pile of meat on Wonder Bread slathered in so much sauce you have to take a bath afterward), I’d take AB’s most days. But the burnt ends at Gates…my goodness.
Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.
by jaeger on May 27, 2010 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Here Here!!
No BBQ in town beats Arthur Bryants meats with Gates sauce. I remember back in the day when AB’s served scraps and fries. All the bits of meat left on the meat slicer piled on top of a mound of hot fries then rolled up in butcher paper. Man I’m hungry!!
by Big Reese on May 27, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
By the way
A friend of mine was walking in to OKIE JOES (the gas station site…which I would argue is the only site)a few weeks ago and saw the man vs. food guy walking out with all the cameras..should be on that soon if anyone likes that show. We were debating what his challenge was. Hopefully a huge Z – MAN.. Or maybe one of those platters they got.
Ha
I ate at a place in Denver…The Jack N Grill I think and there was a picture of that guy on the wall for eating a 7 pound burrito or something.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on May 27, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
BBQ guru here
(or so i tell myself)
Her’s my ranking:
Gate – Best food, best sauce. the sauce is tangy and has kick. Sweet BBQ sauce is for BBQ “laymen.” my only complaint here is portion size vs cost
LC’s – a lot like gates. sauce is very mild though. Best hole in the wall you’ll find (and its down the block from my house)
Jack Stack – great food, very diverse menu. sauce is good, though a tad sweet. Best baked beans in the history of the world
KC Masterpiece(RIP) – wiked ribs and good overall menu. sauce was too sweet so i always got spicy over original.
Arthur Bryant’s – Food is great and portions are generous but the sauce is horrid. Its not really BBQ sauce, its like pepper sauce. I always import some gates or spick KCMP.
Nothing else registers. Big T’s and Zarda tase like “fast food” BBQ. OK joe’s and smokehouse are okay but generic and bland.
Arthur Bryant's sauce is the best in town.
It is the only sauce I take back with me to college. Although, Zarda is my favorite BBQ with Arthur Bryant’s a close second. Never been to OK Joe’s.
by ChiefsNfl on May 27, 2010 10:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Smokestack=best BBQ baked beans in town
chop a whole brisket in those beans and have them sitting under the BBQ when they cook…letting all those wonderful BBQ fat drippings into the pan….yumm
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Finally someone with some sense.
Smokehouse baked beans= heaven on earth.
Proud resident of Kansas City MO
their BBQ isnt all that special...but damn, them beans...mmmm...mmmm.mmmm
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on May 27, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Same method as Jack Stack by the way...
For those who don’t know the history, they were originally the same, until Jack Fiorella created Jack Stack.
Pretty much the same method that is.
There are some variances, but I don’t recall the specifics there at the moment.
What is the history again Arch
If I remeber, it was Smoke Stack…then someone in St. Louis sued them for name rights. Then it became Jack Stack and then Fiorella’s. Or did they split and Jack Stack/ Fiorella’s are 2 different things? I dont remeber exactly how that went.
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 27, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Has Sneed's closed down... (its out toward Loche Loyd)
They have/had the best bbq sauce.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Sneeds was good
almost forgot about sneeds
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 27, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I live in Maryland..
Never had any of these places you speak of,
Crabs suck.
"The way you perform make them feel about you different"
-Emmitt Smith
by severn58 on May 27, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure they do
I’m sure there is some sort of ointment you can buy.
I also heard a extinguished matchstick head does the trick. However that doesn’t sound like alot of fun.
I realize I'm late to the party but...I'm on Twitter.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on May 27, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They don't taste good either.
"The way you perform make them feel about you different"
-Emmitt Smith
no no no
That’s not correct at all. First you get some hair clippers, a knife, lighter fluid and a match. First , Take the clippers, and shave 1 side of the hair. Second, douse the other half in lighter fluid. Third, strike the match and set the remain, doused half on fire. Fourth, as the crabs jump from the burning blaze to the recently shaved side, stab them with the knife.
Official Member of the "Draft Eric Berry" Fanclub
...the prostitute to the leper.
I realize I'm late to the party but...I'm on Twitter.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on May 27, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
will you please pronounce your name?
Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.
Wow.
Or there is that. I’m not sire I’ll be setting any fires that close to my nether-regions.
I realize I'm late to the party but...I'm on Twitter.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on May 27, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Or using a knife to stab near the genitals
But other than that it sounds like a good idea
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on May 27, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Not King Crab.
Scott Pioli's star will shine in 2010.
Win or lose, the Chiefs scare the bejesus of all opponents in 2010
by ChiefsChance on May 27, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I lived in KC most of my life, moved to California about 4 years ago.
I’ve never even heard of Oklahoma Joe’s. Barbecue at a gas station? In Kansas? What the fuck is that? Some of you guys are so ignorant about KC barbecue it isn’t even funny — it’s sad! And I don’t even live there any more. Zarda? It’s horrible. Not even a blip on the radar. KC Masterpiece isn’t even a local company. It’s a chain. The company is based in OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA.
The two places that are actually world famous are Gates and Bryants. Those are the places that presidents and celebrities go.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on May 27, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Dude you're the one being ignorant..
I’ve never even heard of Oklahoma Joe’s. Barbecue at a gas station? In Kansas? What the fuck is that?
So you’ve never been there or even heard of it. I too though it was a little sketchy eating BBQ at a gas station, but it’s was some of the best I’ve had. Its’ not like they have the food pre made…its a BBQ resturant that happens to be in the same building as a gas station.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on May 27, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
You've obviously never had a McRib sandwich
Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.
They did a program on that place on the food network
it looks a little sketchy from the outside but from what it looked like inside I would eat there!
Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.
Food Network props / awards.
Anthony Bordeau guy said " It is the some of the best BBQ in the world"
Here is a list of the National awards/competitions from oklahomajoesbbq.com . I shortened it up to all of the CHAMPION bbq awards.
1992- RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION-Raytown, MO
GRAND CHAMPION
World Brisket Open
Welfare, TX
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
World Brisket Open
Welfare, TX
1993
GRAND CHAMPION
Oklahoma State Championship
Ponca City, OK
GRAND CHAMPION
Blue Devil Cook-Off
Kansas City, KS
GRAND CHAMPION
McClouth BBQ Blow-Out
McClouth, KS
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
Lexington BBQ Bail-Out
Lexington, MO
GRAND CHAMPION
Arkansas State Championship
Holiday Island, AR
GRAND CHAMPION
BBQ, Bluegrass, and Chili Festival
Tulsa, OK
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
Nebraska State Championship
Omaha, NE
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
Chief Osceola Pow-Wow,
Osceola, MO
GRAND CHAMPION
Bates County Beef-A-Thon
Butler, MO
GRAND CHAMPION
American Royal Open
Kansas City, MO
GRAND CHAMPION KCBS
Overall Championship
"TEAM OF THE YEAR"
Kansas City, MO
1994
GRAND CHAMPION
Sunflower State Championship
Kansas City, KS
GRAND CHAMPION
North Kansas City Missouri State Championship
North Kansas City, MO
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
Jesse James –Missouri State Championship
Kearney, MO
1995
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
Mid-South Regional BBQ Championship
Lincoln, AR
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
North Kansas City Missouri State Championship
North Kansas City, MO
GRAND CHAMPION
Arkansas State Championship
Holiday Island, AR
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
Jack Daniel’s World Championship
Lynchburg, TN
GRAND CHAMPION
American Royal Invitational
Kansas City, MO
1996
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
Oklahoma State Championship
Stillwater, OK
GRAND CHAMPION
Sam’s Club Cook-Out America
Grandview, MO
GRAND CHAMPION
Great Lenexa BBQ Battle
Kansas State Championship
Lenexa, KS
RESERVE GRAND CHAMPION
American Royal Invitational
Kansas City, MO
1st PLACE BBQ SAUCE
Jack Daniel’s World Championship
Lynchburg, TN
2001
1st PLACE "MILD" BBQ SAUCE
American Royal International
BBQ Sauce Contest
"BEST SAUCE ON THE PLANET"
Kansas City, MO
2002
1st PLACE "HOT" BBQ SAUCE
American Royal Invitational
BBQ Sauce Contest
Kansas City, MO
The Hangover - KC Chiefs style
Having just came back from texas
I’m going to state that it’s not hard to win a BBQ award there. Their stuff was complete CRAP. Sauce was TERRIBLE
So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.
Texas BBQ
Let’s pour a bunch of sugar in this sauce, call it texas style, and hope little kids like it cuz it’s sweet. Lived down there for awhile, and it doesn’t have Sh*t on KC BBQ.
Big Gulps EH????? All right.....Welp....See Ya Later!
by XtaC69Chief on May 27, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh
So they haven’t won anything in 8 years?
by BucktheFroncos on May 27, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
KC masterpiece is garbage.
But because you want to insult people, i will say that you sir are the ignorant one. KC masterpiece was created by a local DR here in KC. The companies HQ is in CA but the recipe was created here, named for KC, and was first sold here. Know your shit before you start calling people out on their ignorance.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on May 28, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
The Sleeper Contest
LC’s vs. Big T’s
Edge goes to Big T’s for their burnt ends.
Also gotta shout-out to my local place: Perry Foster’s
Dirty and grimy, hit or miss food, but there is a shrine to Derrick Thomas. So I’ll risk the e-coli.
Hers's a couple more hole in the walls
Wyandotte BBQ, Quicks..
by kriscrossley1977 on May 27, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions
I try to stay out of the dot
I like my hubcaps and I dont need any meth amphetomine.
(ducks from any bullets coming in from dot residents)
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 27, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
The dot is pretty bad
but most of KCMO is ghetto too.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on May 28, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Not picky
So to me the best KC BBQ is which everone I can get tot he fastest….
by Stone Throwers on May 27, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions
I LOVE BBQ. But KC is the best. The only BBQ I don't have a great love for is Carolina.
I don’t care for the mustardy type BBQ SAuce. But I love’s me some KC QQQQQQ!!
Hey Eric!
Don’t listen to these guys! Two places you should go. Kansas City Style and not a chain…
1. Winslow’s at the River Market. Excellent Ribs.
2. BB’s Lawnside BBQ. Not only great BBQ but some good Blues as well.
Trust me on this.
Finally, someone with taste!!!
A rack of ribs, some Blackened Voodoo and Trampled Under Foot.
Wow! What a night!
by Kccoachmike on May 27, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
bb's sauce is terrible
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
fast food bbq
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
Eagles fan here...
I’m an East Coast guy, so my taste for BBQ isn’t as honed as the majority of yours, but I went to Arthur Bryant’s a few years ago, and it was one of the best meals I’ve ever had…
And the clientele was an assortment of the fattest people I’ve ever seen in my life.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Use that as a sign of good food.
The fatter the people are in a restaurant, the better the food. The better the food, the less healthy it is. No wonder America one of the fattest countries.
Big Gulps EH????? All right.....Welp....See Ya Later!
by XtaC69Chief on May 27, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Touche
Big Gulps EH????? All right.....Welp....See Ya Later!
by XtaC69Chief on May 27, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
so that's the general rule?
no wonder my fat ass still gets dates. hmmm
by HeatherChiefsLvr on May 27, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d say it’s more of a theory than a rule. The theory is that more robust ladies will work a little harder.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
I don't believe it's "work" at all...
maybe that’s a fat girl thing too. lol
by HeatherChiefsLvr on May 27, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
KC BBQ!!!!!
back to the topic at hand! lol
by HeatherChiefsLvr on May 27, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
My opinions....
Best meat : Bryant’s
Best Sauce: Gate’s extra hot
Best all around: Oklahoma Joe’s
Best Order : Bryant’s Combo Burnt ends, pulled pork, and fries. Red Soda or Pale Ale
Best Pure Samich : Gates Beef and a Half on Bun, Extra hot sauce
I have been tempted to flag anyone who mentioned KC Masterpiece.
And sorry for throwing around rec’s like crazy, but I’m a passionate man.
by liquorstoreclerk on May 27, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions
Gates extra hot & Bryants rich & spicy are 1,2
Tough times never last, but tough people do.
by MadMartigan816 on May 27, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
KC Masterpiece has good sauce
You can put that stuff on anything. I usually put it on frozen grilled chicken I get from Sams Club. It really is a universal sauce.
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on May 27, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
in order
1. bryants or gates
2. gates or bryants
3. LC’s
4. Jack Stack
5. Rosedales
I’d rather eat a McRib than eat oklahoma joe’s or unfamous dave’s
Tough times never last, but tough people do.
by MadMartigan816 on May 27, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions
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From a Cali boy with KC roots
Gates BBQ is the best BBQ I’ve ever had! That sausage and presidental platter, a must buy everytime I visit!
by Larryemcdaniel on May 27, 2010 12:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
If you are out south around 58 & 71 hwy., Twisted Brisket is a great place to try. It is fairly new, & the burnt ends w/ spicy sauce, & baked beans are really, really good!
by jb4chiefs on May 27, 2010 12:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
thanks AP'ers
Once a year I get back to KC from Texas. When in KC I reserve a meal dedicated to BBQ. Been to Bryants, Gates, Jack Stack in 2 locales.
Now I have a list of more BBQ joints to try for my “Bucket List”. Hope to get to them all in the years to come.
I can’t say what the best BBQ place is. Usually when I’m eating, that place I’m at is the best I have ever been!!!!
by RoundRockChief on May 27, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions
135 comments just about BBQ
LOVE IT!
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on May 27, 2010 12:55 PM CDT reply actions
the worst bbq in kc still is better than
The best bbq place in Portland Oregon
by rage_kage on May 27, 2010 1:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
best bbq
U guys need to get out to bates city bbq in bates city,mo. Its about 30 miles east of kc and its the BOMB!
by red_manwalkin83 on May 27, 2010 1:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm going to go ahead and throw some gasoline on the fire.
The best BBQ sandwich is a Brisket sandwich from McGonigle’s. Heaven sent my friends. Heaven sent.
Thorman
you shame Kansas City with this nonsense. “Oklahoma Joes” LMAO. What is that, barbeque for mcnuggets? Gimme the real stuff-GATES. The original, the best, the spirit and heart of Kansas City.
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by Justin Bopp on May 27, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Okie's has the best Ribs in town and the Spicy Slaw is amazing.
Grow some taste buds.
My taste buds are busy
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You're all wrong
the best BBQ is what comes out of the smoker and off the grill.
So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.
Wabash BBQ! Excelsior Springs, MO
From my hometown area …Wabash BBQ is pretty tasty. Love their spicy BBQ sauce!
My ideal order would be:
Bryant’s meat, Gates sauce, Okie Joe’s Fries, Jack Stack Beans and Cheesy Corn Bake. Really doesn’t get much better than that.
Grow up boys and girls...
go to Bryant’s at 18th & Brooklyn, THE PLACE FOR A COMBO SANDWICH WITH FRIES! And get the original sauce. I also suggest a Turkey Brisket Combo. “Wrap that up and I’m outta here!”
this article/discussion is another reason i love arrowhead pride!
talking chiefs and bbq. doesn’t get much better than that.
by MountainManMike on May 27, 2010 6:39 PM CDT reply actions
It cannot be good barbeque if it is from Kansas.
Everyone knows that the tradition and quality has to come from the Missouri side. You might as well say that Disneylands barbeque is the best.
Arthur Bryant's is my fav
the pulled pork is especially good
If you watch Jaws backwards, it's about a shark that throws people up until they have to open a beach.
by ratherfantastic on May 27, 2010 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
You guys...
that live in KC are pissing me off. I live in western KS and LOVE BBQ. Unfortunately, there isn’t anything decent for 300 miles. I swear I’m going to make my brother in Prairie Village bring me some home next time he visits—-I don’t even care WHERE it’s from.
Never take it for granted, folks…
Haywards
sausage and burnt ends platter with a side of beans and fries. If I was facing a death sentence this would be my last meal.
First post, and it took Berry and BBQ to make me sign up.
Hello all!
I am a die hard Chiefs fan that just moved to Colorado over New Years from Kansas City.
I cried tears of joy when Berry was taken at the draft.
I cried tears of sorrow when I realized I couldn’t just drive 10 minutes to Arthur Bryants anymore and get me some Rib Tips and Fries with a Red Soda.
I really miss KC BBQ!!!
So, when this thread came up, I finally had to join and share my sorrow.
I went to the supposedly world famous Rib House in Longmont, where I live.
They advertise they are authentic KC style BBQ. Well, they’re not. It was actually horrible.
Plus, who in world charges $1.50 for 2 oz of sauce?!?!?! No free sauce on the tables!
Anyway, that experience made me miss KC BBQ so much more.
Tell Arthur Bryants that they need to come up with a Sweet Berry BBQ sauce!!
Glad to be here with all of you fanatics!!
Oklahoma Joe's
I forgot to mention. I grew up in Wichita. So, anything with the word Oklahoma in it, automatically moves it to the bottom of the list. Sorry Joe.
Jokelahoma Joe’s is ok, but not great.
But thats kinda like saying New Jersey Guido’s famous KC style BBQ is the best…
How un-KC is that?

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