Chiefs Not Visiting With Gerald McCoy Either

by Joel Thorman on Apr 7, 2010 6:33 PM CDT in 2010 Kansas City Chiefs Draft

We pointed out this morning that the Kansas City Chiefs have not scheduled a visit with Tennessee DT Dan Williams, who is largely considered one of the top two nose tackles in the NFL draft.

We've got another big name who has no scheduled visit to Kansas City -- Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy.

McCoy was never likely an option for the Chiefs for a couple of reasons.

First, he's widely expected to be taken within the top three picks which would make him unavailable to the Chiefs.

Second, he's not a nose tackle. In a chat on NFL.com today, McCoy was asked what position he might play in a 3-4 defense and said right end.

Defensive end is one of the few positions we can almost assuredly say they will not draft.

Glenn Dorsey, 2008 5th overall pick, and Tyson Jackson, 2009 3rd overall pick, are young and come with hefty salaries so they're not going anywhere. In addition to that, the Chiefs used a third round pick on Alex Magee last year.

McCoy has visited the Lions and Redskins and still has plans to visit the Rams and Bucs.

Tweet Comment 61 comments | 0 recs |

Do you like this story?

Comments

Yep.

McCoy just wouldn’t fit anywhere on the DL unless we got rid of Jackson or Dorsey… and that AIN’T HAPPENING.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.

by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 7, 2010 6:42 PM CDT reply actions

yea, even so why would we take a DE in the top 5...oh wait

Member of the Eric Berry Fan Club
Snap the fucking ball Brodie!

by jakethesnake27 on Apr 7, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions

he'll go early enough ... nice little salary to go with it

ok, maybe a hugemongous salary

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Apr 7, 2010 6:52 PM CDT reply actions

I think the proper vernacular is a GINORMOUS salary

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 7, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Gargangantic!

Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.

by Peyote on Apr 7, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions

No..no..thats the name of the butterfly creature that Godzilla defeated

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 7, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Ginormous sounds like

my ex girlfriend.

I called her Vaginormous.

She was a horror.

A Jayhawk too :)

Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.

by Peyote on Apr 7, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions

LoL...that reminds me of that joke from Predator...

Your Vagina is so big…. Your vagina is so big……Why’d you say it twice?

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 7, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I feel like we're off topic...LOL

What was this post about? …..scrolling up

Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.

by Peyote on Apr 7, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions

that was mothra...don't make me sick baby godzilla on you....smoke rings and all

by krayfish on Apr 7, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Dude. It's not 'baby godzilla.' It's Gadzookie.

by JacinB on Apr 7, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Gesundhiet!

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Apr 8, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions

Oh...and HUGONGOUS is way cooler

Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.

by Peyote on Apr 7, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Words are getting too complicated.....I'll just go size XXXL

and Magnanimous …. couldn’t help it

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 7, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions

that's redonkulous

which is REALLY what the salary’s gonna be

by upamtn on Apr 7, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Magnanimous is an actual word.

And it doesn’t mean big.

by JacinB on Apr 7, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes....it is a real word, Berry good JacinB and it means very generous.

i.e. The owner will show to McCoy his mag·nan·i·mous·ness by signing him to a very lucrative contract. See …. I was paying attention in my english 101 class….??

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 8, 2010 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Has Suh visited with the Chiefs?

by Larryemcdaniel on Apr 7, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions

Williams is one of the top two overrated NT prospects in this draft.

McCoy I dont think suits either for that spot.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Apr 7, 2010 7:02 PM CDT reply actions

the other being Cody?

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Damn

I know you want physically fit troops.
I want a NT, Would you take Wifork?

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't know,probably not if he is build just like Cody

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Not to get into trouble here

But a NT is physically like a Male Silverback Gorilla

Long Arms and a large build to dominate and absorb 2 blockers

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Really what University did he go to?

draft that guy then cause he looks fit

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions

He is fit

and the big belly is hidden, part of the physique IMO

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Really!!! Draft that Gorilla can u see him walking up to the line

baring his teeth and pounding his chest and watching 11 raiders or donkeys all running back to their bench

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes I can

I would not want to face a Gorilla.
Yet I would love to be friends with a Gorilla :)

Warmth and comradeship know’s no better companion.

Would take years of learning and finding out though

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions

I see Curly Culp

I see Dan Salamuea
I see Joe Phillips

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions

If you didn't accidentally hack him off and have him rip you in half first.

by JacinB on Apr 7, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Well it is a learning process

and if the gorilla did that :)

I messed up not him

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes.

Just keep that in mind as he’s pulling your arms off.

by JacinB on Apr 9, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions

I think this tells us that Williams

will not be the pick at #5 or where ever we end up picking. As badly as we need a NT and they havent scheduled a visit with him tells me they arent interested at all in him. Mccoy doesnt surprise me as he wont fall to us and we wouldnt take him even if he did

by banshee_01 on Apr 7, 2010 7:06 PM CDT reply actions

I saw a thing on ESPN

about how lots of players are drafted by teams they never visited with or had private workouts with. In fact its fairly common. Kind of hard to read alot into all those visits and workouts.

by chiefs_fan83 on Apr 7, 2010 7:07 PM CDT reply actions

Not that I am interested in McCoy, just saying...

by chiefs_fan83 on Apr 7, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions

I just don't get it either

Only people who carry the opinions of others need the support of others.

by Peyote on Apr 7, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Sometimes teams think they have a good enough look at a guy

So they decide that not conducting private workouts or visits with that player is a way to avoid tipping their hands.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 7, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions

It would make more sense to mix them into the visits

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions

I can't believe that they would decide based on the next best players

without seeing the guy for themselves. Ala Eric Berry visit

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions

They can still see the players themselves

For example, KC had a significant presence at the OU pro day, just like every other team did, and of course there was the combine. They still get a very close look.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 7, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions

I was actually not including McCoy

good player and a non fit in KC, Same as Carlos Dunlop (no visit with him either.
We have not visited with Joe Haden
Clausen
Trent Williams
Pierre-Paul
Everson Griffen
Bruce Campbell
Ryan Mathews
wilson
Davis
Kindle
Wooten
Demarrys Thomas

Lots of good players that we don’t need at the picks assigned

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Lots of those guys have been scouted

For example, KC saw Trent Williams, Kindle, and others at the Senior Bowl, combine, and their respective pro days.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 7, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions

And our draft interests chart

Isn’t complete…very possible and even likely in some cases that the Chiefs have visited with these guys and the news hasn’t gotten out.

For the No. 5 pick, the visits are pretty important I think. This is when you can spend a day or a day and a half with a player and really get to know him. Also, this is when a lot of the medical tests happen (in addition to what’s been doing previously)…if you’re going to be putting that much money on that player, I imagine you’d want a full look at him.

Arrowhead Pride

by Joel Thorman on Apr 7, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions

That's all correct, of course...

…but lots of team docs get to poke, prod, and otherwise examine prospects at the combine and, in some cases, the pro day as well. Private visits aren’t the only opportunity. Like someone said earlier, lots of teams draft guys with whom they did not conduct private visits, and it happens even in the first round.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 7, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions

But I did mark them so unless it changed

They have not been contacted as of yet

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions

we already have mccoy

his name is Glenn Dorsey. same guy. He won’t be there. he will be in tampa with #3. If Okung is gone I bet RT Baluga is the guy! keyword RT-which we desperatly need after soldifying the middle of the OL(kind of), and we aren’t gonna like it but it is what it is. The Whale at 5,so fellow AP’ers jump on now because were gonna play it safe again! unless we can move the pick(doubtful).

by CHEEFN58 on Apr 7, 2010 8:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

lets hope we don't waste a #5 pick on a RT

I’d rather we went offense

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions

+2

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Defense

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions

??

how is getting a 10 year mainstay(hopefully) at RT a waste of a pick? That solves a problem, and I don’t think the godfather is going to take Berry or Mcclain there, but it’s definetly not the sexy pick.

by CHEEFN58 on Apr 7, 2010 9:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

our biggest need on the offensive line is Center

then guards RT is not a need

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions

We can pick a Center after the 1st round

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions

only 1st round talent at Center is Pouncey

have seen him as high as 15th in one mock

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions

WR TE or Center

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 9:34 PM CDT reply actions

you did mean offense :)

Makes no sense Sgt

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions

taking Bulaga

makes no sense, but what do I know

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions

ok who do u take if it goes bradford,Suh,Mccoy,and the okung at 4? who u takn at #5?

by CHEEFN58 on Apr 7, 2010 9:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Berry or trade down

trading down would be best for the team overall but getting a trading partner do dance with might be a problem.

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions

of course

u trade down if possible, but If that doesn’t happen which in the top 5 is rare there is 0 percent chance we draft a center or guard. I like Berry 2 but I think pos.value will sway the godfather.

by CHEEFN58 on Apr 7, 2010 9:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

No I think he pulls the trigger on Berry

he’s the BPA and to top it off is the right 53. everyone talks FS or SS but in a 3-4 they use Left/Right that kills that argument

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Apr 7, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree

Berry can fit in anywhere they choose to play him in the secondary.
I prefer CB but FS or SS if they get another safety too.
I don’t want a @5 playing SS, just my phobia

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 7, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions