John Henderson Says He'll "Play Wherever Coach Wants Me To Play"
by Joel Thorman on Apr 26, 2010 4:06 PM CDT
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PrintNews came out this morning that John Henderson was visiting the Chiefs and a few hours later we'e already heard from him, courtesy Nick Wright of 610 Sports. Henderson joined Wright's show this afternoon about 10 minutes.
Henderson told Wright his workout with the Chiefs is on Wednesday -- not tomorrow.
"It's just the way we scheduled it," Henderson said of his free agent tour. "My options are open."
There have been some questions of where Henderson -- 6'7" and 335 pounds -- would play. But, as SB Nation's Big Cat Country pointed out, he played defensive end when the Jaguars were in a 3-4 last year. Wright asked him if he came to Kansas City because of potential playing time along the defensive line, specifically nose tackle. Henderson didn't say anything about nose tackle but did indicate he was willing to lose some weight to play defensive end.
"If coach thinks I need to drop some pounds and be 325, I can definitely do that if they want me at [defensive] end," he said. "It's all about me being flexible and being able to move and pass rush when it's time to rush. I can do it at 330 but I'm flexible to do anything."
A Henderson signing would raise quite a questions, none bigger than what happens to Glenn Dorsey. If Henderson came in to play defensive end in the Chiefs 3-4, surely he would be replacing Dorsey. Would he then be moved to nose tackle?
Even if Henderson isn't necessarily a true need at this point, Chiefs GM Scott Pioli has said a few times that he's abotu collecting good football players. Apparently the Chiefs feel he fits that criteria.
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yeah, very interesting...I wonder what he expects to be paid
Team Pioli/Haley
Better question is who else is working him out?
It would be nice to know who the competition is that we are up against to sign this guy. Because it will be a combination of $, playing time, and team potential (can we win now/soon?)
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I hear the Giants are talking w him.
but, Pioli can sign him before he leaves town if there’s a fit!
I really think they’d use him at NT… just makes too much sense not to
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* KC will NOT draft a LT in the first round, and the draft WILL be heavy on defense
Is he too tall to get enough leverage
against opposing lineman to be effective at NT?
" The future ain't what it used to be " ~Yogi Berra~
meh
dont’ overanalyze it… he’s huge… if he can push the pocket an tie up blockers… he can be a NT
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* KC will NOT draft a LT in the first round, and the draft WILL be heavy on defense
Hope so. It sure would make the front 3 look funny for him to play anywhere else but NT.
" The future ain't what it used to be " ~Yogi Berra~
hes 6'7"
hell over-power a center.
UT defensive end Robert Ayers sits alone in his locker, clad in full uniform, reading passages aloud from his white-covered Bible. Ellix Wilson's voice fades and silence holds for a few minutes.
Then Vols sophomore Eric Berry stands."When I say Killas, y'all say Killas and then when I say Trained Assassins, y'all say Trained Assassins and then when I say, Want Some, y'all say, Gone Get Some."
Then Berry starts, "Killas!"
"Killas!" the team replies in unison.
"Trained assassins!" Berry chants.
"Trained assassins!"
"Want some," Berry leads.
"Gone get some!"
"Let's go bang a motherfucker, man!" Berry screams in conclusion.
not if the center gets under him
thing that is good are his arms are super long. As mentioned before he can swat a lot of balls
After watch the Blindside?
He can just pick up the center, like Michael Oher did. j/k
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
6'7" 335 LBS.
Sounds like a nice big nose tackle. Not only could he tie up blockers, but he’d have great hands to jump and swat balls on the line.
Eric Berry for Rookie of the Year
I heard Cleveland as well
And Atlanta has interest as well. All unconfirmed of course.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 26, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear that's the way they like to do things.
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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont think a FA that has
Came in for a visit has left without a contract, which is promising.
by BiiG_C on Apr 26, 2010 5:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think that won't happen because ...
all the post-draft releases are happening now, and over the next week or so. Pioli will want to …..I think….wait and see who all is going to be available before grabbing someone.
"Always go to other people's funerals otherwise they won't go to yours." ~Yogi Berra~
heard raiders might be intrested as well
HEY........quit playing with your dingy
Not sure what to read from his comments.
He kind of seems arrogant from what I just read.
Scott Pioli's star will shine in 2010.
Win or lose, the Chiefs scare the bejesus of all opponents in 2010
hehe, thats why my first thought was "how much money"
Team Pioli/Haley
He sounds like a player ready to become a Chief, imo.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard the interview. He sounded unexcited about anything.
My impression was that he will play wherever his agent tells him he is going to play. Then he will do what the coach tells him to do. I know he doesn’t want to play his hand in a radio interview but I was unmoved by the interview. He may add to the Chiefs defense but I really still have hopes for Glenn Dorsey. Dorsey was out of some of the games that we really got blown out of at the end of last year. I think our defense is undoubtedly better with him playing. I have hopes that he will will be (at least near) the player we had expected him to be.
of course he doesnt want to give it away thats why he doesnt show emotion but if he does well
in his tryout I doubt Pioli will let him walk.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
That picture says it all, look at that poor bastard for the Chiefs that is trying to block him.
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by KCporkchop on Apr 26, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Holding on for dear life is more like it.
Who was it that said earlier that any center would be able to put him on his butt if he was at NT because of leverage? “I pity the fool!”
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Wait!?
Is that John Henderson in the picture, or King Kong?
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
first thing i noticed!
Young, dope & flashy.
First thing i noticed
Was John having inside control of Andy Alleman with the longest arms i have ever seen on a human. The seperation from the block and the way he is flipping his hips to get to Alleman’s edge are textbook. Andy couldn’t even stop him if he wanted to at this point, big john is about to rip right through that…probably explains the look on Alleman’s face.
He is just straight getting worked right there. haha.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
He's already aware of body by Haley!
“If coach thinks I need to drop some pounds and be 325, I can definitely do that
Romeo better take him out for some BBQ, and don’t let him leave until he’s signed!
Romeo and Henderson going out for BBQ sauce.
Neither of them may never leave the restaurant.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure that we could get a couple dozen local BBQ restaurants
to donate a slab each to send out to Arrowhead during the negotiations.
Sign Him!
Put him at RDE and move a beefed up Dorsey to NT. Our run defense would exponentially get better. Magee can come in on 3rd down to rush the passer.
RDE – Henderson, Magee
NT – Dorsey, S Smith
LDE – Jackson, Gilberry
I would also sign A Thomas to play SILB. He did good for the Pats in that role.
Call me Red or IBR for short
Players have gone into Arrowhead
And have come out with contracts. I hope this is no different. Free agents have said they love the direction the Chiefs are going,they feel the energy in the air, and they love the atmosphere. Hopefully they can sway Henderson to make no more visits and become the newest Chief.The addition of Henderson would most likely move Dorsey to nose. As long as he puts on some weight, I definitely think he can do it. I’ve seen him stand his ground against the double team a few times.
by Larryemcdaniel on Apr 26, 2010 4:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think
Pioli is trying to assemble a d-line, in which most members can play either NT or DE
and the Chiefs put the HAMMER DOWN!!!!
I also look at this quote
If coach thinks I need to drop some pounds and be 325, I can definitely do that if they want me at [defensive] end.
As the most important one. I read it as either:
1. I can play NT, or if coach wants me to, I can drop some pounds and play end.
2. I can drop some weight to play end, but if they don’t want me there, I’m not interested.
I’m afraid it’s #2 since he deflected the NT question so quickly.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
Well...
at 6’7" it makes a lot more sense to put him at end and move Dorsey at NT. Henderson would have to lose 10-15 lbs. and Dorsey would have to gain 10-15 lbs.
Call me Red or IBR for short
by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 26, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember what Pioli said before the draft?
“Dorsey can do a lot of things…a lot of things.” When asked about what positions he could play on the team.
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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't it then be easier for Henderson to play NT, while Dorsey stays at DE?
Neither would have to gain/lose weight.
by NW on Apr 26, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Think Pioli wants to move Glenn Dorsey to NT.
And sign John Henderson to be a DE.
Official fan of the "Bring Henderson to KC" Club.
by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Can Dorsey do it?
Man that would be his 3rd position change in 3 years. He would have to put on some weigh because at 297 he does not seem stout enough for a NT. I am curious to see what happens if Henderson is signed because the thought around here was that Dorsey was due for a better year being his 3rd and 2nd at the position.
I wouldn't try it
he was really starting to come into his own at DE
keep him there, bring in help at NT
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* KC will NOT draft a LT in the first round, and the draft WILL be heavy on defense
I think...
he would fit best at NT. I think thats where Romeo wants him. He has those tree trunk legs, he can do it. At 6 foot even, all he would have to do is put on 10 to 15 lbs.
Call me Red or IBR for short
by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 26, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I care ...
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"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
He wouldnt last long at punter
Because the ball would explode when he kicked it and those things arent cheap
by gochiefsgo on Apr 26, 2010 4:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I love this...
He’d better be a Chief by Wed at 5pm.
Even if he played the middle, imagine a 6’7" guy, with long arms, in the middle of the o-line, obstructing the opposing QB’s vision… Nothing down field, better throw to the flats.
I don’t care where they play him, just get him in here. Can you imagine a line rotation available with TJack, Magee, Dorsey, Smith, Henderson…. (DROOL). Opposing OLines would hate us.
Charles to the 20... 10... TOUCHDOWN! KANSAS CITY!
by Falcon58 on Apr 26, 2010 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like he is ready to become a part of the Kansas City Chiefs.
His quote makes it sound like he is planning on coming to the Kansas City Chiefs by the way he said it.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I just had a vision...
Clark Hunt… standing in the parking lot at Truman Sports Complex… “If you build it, they will come.”
Field of Dreams II: The NEW Arrowhead
Charles to the 20... 10... TOUCHDOWN! KANSAS CITY!
I also had a vision
In my vision, I see John Henderson in red and gold killing Phillip Rivers on a Monday night in Arrowhead Stadium.
Think AP might be full of psychics.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I had a vision too!!!
But, that was prpbably just the peyote.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
Guarantee it!
This is the 2010 Kansas City Chiefs starting defensive lineup.
RE: Tyson Jackson/Wallace Gilberry
NT: Glenn Dorsey/Shaun Smith/Ron Edwards (Garrett Brown to Practice Squad.)
LE: John Henderson/Alex Magee
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sounds dirty
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He probably lasts the first three games of the regular season.
Than gets replaced by Brown in the 3-man rotation.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Think we might have a three man rotation at the NT position.
Some point in 2010 Brown does replace Edwards in the rotation.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't know
it would be funny to put the heavy guy as a DE. it’s not that i don’t think dorsey can plat NT, but more that he’s smaller than henderson. usually, i recognize that it could be different, the NT is the biggest guy on you D-line
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
usually the tackle is bigger than the center so Dorsey i think is used to bieng blocked by big guys
he will do just fine with the center and guard probably even play better he usually gets the rt and rg on him. and he will benefit from having henderson because he will still command a double team.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I also see Henderson signing elsewhere
He seems like he wants to get paid. Although I was surprised when we sign Jones. I think Pioli writes and offer on a sheet of paper with the names and addresses of key family members. Mafia tactics!
by Nelly on Apr 26, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah...I agree, I think he wants to get paid, but if he wants to win a championship maybe he will sign with KC
Team Pioli/Haley
Lets not discount the possibility that we actually pay him
We have a lot of cap space still, and we can afford to spend a little to pick him up. Realistically though, he can’t be expecting to get paid what he is in his current contract. Who knows though.
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Man if he gets slapped before a game like that
he might not have sense enough to know that he is not supposed to command a big contract!
there will be one next year
and we don’t want to be in Chicago’s situation when there is..
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dont worry we where way under the cap we can spend money on three players and still
be under the cap we where rated the team with the most salary cap recently.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you guys think Dorsey can play NT?
He is about 6’0 300lbs. Can he get to 315 lbs before the season starts? Kelly Gregg for the Ravens is 6’0 315 lbs and does a pretty good job at nose.
by Larryemcdaniel on Apr 26, 2010 4:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
In stature he seems like a perfect 3-4 end
Dorsey seems more like a NT. I am just worried about Dorsey’s progress if he switches to NT.
I dont know if I want this guy
I like Dorsey where he is, tired of asking him to do so much, and now play NT. Unless they have talked to him already and enjoys the thought of that more. I mean he is super strong for his size/weight but, I want to see some consistency on our front…
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
Dorsey is a great talent.
After this year he will also prove that he is a very versatile player.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
He also seems like a team player
Willing to play wherever he’s asked to play. I know he’s considered too light to play NT in the traditional sense, but I don’t see any way he’ll only require single coverage at NT. He’d be blowing up the backfield on every other down.
Predictions:
This year will be better
I hope
your right CF90. If thats the case and he can man up that position, im that much happier. Always liked Dorsey. I know one thing, he is stronger than a lot of men his size. Just want him here is all and playing where he is best and most comfortable. NT would be sweet if that was his “spot” =)
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
Remember how everyone said Glenn Dorsey would be the anchor of the KC defense right after 2008 NFL Draft
Well, now is the time for him to prove those people right.
Official fan of the "Bring Henderson to KC" Club.
by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Well lets hope
that is the plan and he does just that. If Dorsey holds down the NT position and does well, this draft looks amazing, and very well thought out. We will see, im excited and nervous.
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
No shit! Screw that Berry fella, if Dorsey locks down the NT position then EVERYONE should were his jersey.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Dorsey should stay at DE
Cuz he’s faster… Quicker and way more agile than Henderson which is why Dorsey should play the DE like TJax. Henderson is an ABSOLUTELY PERFECT to play the NT position for us… He’s tall… Heavy and a very strong body that will take 2 people to guard him in the middle which then will open our linebackers up to shoot down the middle to get sacks… And it will sometimes free Dorsey and TJax up to get sacks on the outside… Henderson NEEDS to stay at NT so we can utilize our fast DE’s.
by I 7Vo7V I Z3TA on Apr 26, 2010 4:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
A rotation of Jackson, Dorsey, and Henderson at end would be fabulous
I wouldn’t necessarily believe that Dorsey would have to slide inside to see the field. There are plenty of snaps to go around for 3 DEs.
Sign him up
Even if he’s a DE, he helps the team. We have Dorsey, Jackson, Magee and Gilberry and Gilberry’s a situational pass rusher at best I think. He’d provide extra depth and give the line more flexibility.
I think I would be disappointed to see Henderson as a DE and not a NT.
I think given the option, I would rather see him at NT and not Dorsey.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
I tend to agree
Either way though, I can’t help but think he upgrades our D-line. Whichever position he’s signed for, he could always slide to the other if someone gets hurt, or just for situational reasons.
Heck, we could even throw in some 4-3 looks with him.
If he was put at DE, not sure why it would be Dorsey he would replace.
Why is Jackson safe? Henderson is no spring chicken. Put him at LDE if that is where they want him and let Jackson rotate with both sides for a year.
Obviously it wasn't working for him in Jacksonville anymore....
…maybe a change in scenery as well as a change in defensive philosophy could really give his career new life.
He has one thing going for him, he is BIG and that comes in handy when you need to be a block eater.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
I hope we do sign him
along with Adalius Thomas and Darren Sharper.
Sharper and the Lombardi, DO IT!
Dont have your expectations so high
Wed be lucky to sign one of these men. I prefer Ingram over Thomas
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
I can't really see a place for Sharper
We have 8 safeties on the roster at the moment, if you count Leggett. I would think if they had any plans to make a move for Sharper, they wouldn’t have drafted two safeties.
its also the opposite of going towards team speed
Team Pioli/Haley
I'm just gonna say it, Sharper had an over-hyped season last year.
Was he good? Yes. Will he continue to play that way? Nope.
He is an aging veteran who will decline again, that is why no one wanted him before last year. NO was the perfect storm for him. If you put him on the Chiefs roster, I think you will have overpaid for a veteran who can’t possibly have 2 seasons in a row like last year with 2 different organizations. Let Sharper go get his somewhere else.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Another Ty Law
type of deal imo. He will be decent, but nowhere as good as he was with the previous teams. Or Surtain/Knight… just my opinion.
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
Well, that's probably true.
He didn’t resign with NO because he felt he was being slapped in the face $ wise. For the right price I’d be interested in having him, if only for a year. Teach Berry anything he doesn’t already know. Plus I think it could help with converting Washington to the S position.
Great points for reasons not to sign him tho. Again, all very true. Still like to have Henderson and Thomas tho. Thomas especially.
Sharper and the Lombardi, DO IT!
I'm sorry but if we move Dorsey to NT we might as well trade the guy...
…He will have wasted and entire season adjusting to a new style of play and it would be all for nothing. If you move him to NT he will have to learn that position…. I just think moving him again is a bad idea, he needs to stay at DE.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
yup...I see big john at NT, with some creativity for 2 DL sets
Team Pioli/Haley
Definitely.
Keep Dorsey put. He wasn’t terrible last season. And if he doesn’t pan out, aren’t there some pretty solid DE’s in FA next year?
Sharper and the Lombardi, DO IT!
Nailed it
You can’t expect Dorsey to play a different position for the third time in three years that’s crazy.. Henderson has got long arms and that should fairly compensate for his height
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im sorry but thats what happens when your team is not playing well the captian of the ship is always
changing but dont worry in the long run it will make him more valuable especially if any of our line gets thin they could just slide him in and he wouldnt miss a heart beat.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone know why guys like this cant be traded for atleast a 7th?
Plenty of teams have interest. I mean is there anything other than “it takes two to tango” preventing a guy like this to pull in a 7th for his former team?
by gochiefsgo on Apr 26, 2010 4:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Because teams would like to sign him but not trade for him... and this way they get to work him out.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
I believe you take his salary as well.
May be wrong, but why take a salary AND give up a pick for a guy being released?
That too.... and I'm sure that BIG JOHN was gettin' paid.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2378389
says more than any other DT at the time of the article
Team Pioli/Haley
Yeah..
I was about to say $11 mill over the next 2 years, but the way I look at it, taking Cody in the 1st or 2nd round wouldn’t have been cheap either.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
He is, however, a proven eater.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
I doubt John
has missed many meals either.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah but he has more muscle in his arm than cody's whole body.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey now, Cody has to have some muscle to lug around those Moobs all day.
Somebody get that man a Cross-your-heart Bra PLEASE!
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
All kidding aside...
I’d venture to say he has 3-5 good years left in the tank, especially if played in rotation with our other players. Would a 5 year, $20-$25 million contract be too much?
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I think so but if he can get a few other teams interested then he may comand that but...
…Pioli wouldn’t make a deal like that. He’s a big “I think you are worth _ _ _ _ , take it or leave it” kinda guy. He WILL NOT over pay for the veterans he signs.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Maybe we are going to switch
To a 0-7 defensive scheme and make them all LBs.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
6' 7" 335 - Ladies and Gentlemen, we have our new Left Tackle.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Maybe he can be used to play the 1st ever 3 man offensive line
LT- Albert
LG/C/RG- Henderson
RT- O’Cally
"And the Chiefs line-up in a Wildcat formation with Eric Berry as QB. There's the snap...it's a short pass to Jamal Charles, he's at the 10 the 20 and it looks like he's going to be run out of bounds...LATERAL to Mccluster who is streaking up the field...TOUCHDOWN KAN-SAS-CITY!!!!"
As long as I can hand off to Mccluster immediately, I'm in
"And the Chiefs line-up in a Wildcat formation with Eric Berry as QB. There's the snap...it's a short pass to Jamal Charles, he's at the 10 the 20 and it looks like he's going to be run out of bounds...LATERAL to Mccluster who is streaking up the field...TOUCHDOWN KAN-SAS-CITY!!!!"
i bet you could throw better than that fullback that through the int. in the bronco game
the last game of the season .
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
My opinion:
Honestly, I believe (regardless of whether we sign this Man-Beast) that we’re going to shift our d-lineman around on a play-by-play basis. You might see Dorsey at DE, then they move him into NT. Same with Big Hen, and T-Jax. I see it as a carousel. With that said, I think Henderson’s main “position” will be NT. Him being 6’7" and “unable to hold leverage” is being blown way out of proportion. Good is good, and he’s good. As long as he can hold his ground, stop the run and take on double teams, all of which he’s proven in his career, then he’s doing a nose tackle’s job. So let’s play him at NT, eh?
I could definatly see them making a quick late change before the snap....
….bring a LB up to play DE and shifting BIG JOHN over and Dorsey inside next to him in a 4-3 front. It would completely change the defensive look and give the offensive line fits. THINK VERSATILE PEOPLE!!!!
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
I think that's something important to remember
The Patriots were always big on guys that could play multiple positions and as we’ve seen with this year’s draft, Pioli values that quality too.
Excellent point
Dorsey inside at his natural position paired with a monster like Hend would be great to watch.
Sharper and the Lombardi, DO IT!
VERY excellent point
a nice rotation with an offense that can give the D some time off the field will help us immensely!
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think just by adding big cat anywhere he plays hes going to demand double teams so either way
Dorsey and jackson lbs benefit from the situation sign him today.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a different between being able to switch it up when you need to
And moving people out of their natural positions. You move around if it helps your matchup, but we’re better off with a good NT that can’t play end than a bad NT we more outside.
remember Dorsey was a dt that was his natural position in the 4-3 not de so either way he is not
going to play his natural position any time soon.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
if we sign henderson as a DE
then dorsey needs to go on the trade block. moving him all over a 3-4 line is silly. He’d be a spectacular 4-3 DT, which is what he was drafted as in the first place
Dorsey is an athletic, character and versitile lineman hell be fine hes a professional.
we can ask him if he likes it when hes hoasting the lombardi trophy.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
No, what would be silly is us
trading a spectacular player like Glenn Dorsey.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
thats what im saying with or without henderson Dorsey will be fine and will contribute either
way hes a true professional.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I know everybody keeps talking about NT and 3-4, but what would the 4-3 package look like?
RDE- Hali
DT- Dorsey/Edwards
DT- Henderson/Smith
LDE- Jackson
At what point does this team go “DAMN!!! we have a lot of beef on that line!!! How do we get more of them on the field?”
"And the Chiefs line-up in a Wildcat formation with Eric Berry as QB. There's the snap...it's a short pass to Jamal Charles, he's at the 10 the 20 and it looks like he's going to be run out of bounds...LATERAL to Mccluster who is streaking up the field...TOUCHDOWN KAN-SAS-CITY!!!!"
I think Romeo will change between the 4-3 and the 3-4 alot this season actually....
Like you said, how could you not look at those guys and dream about the pressure up the gut they could produce. The best part is that all of these guys have played 4-3 before and the terminalogy and assignments would be familiar to them.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Agree
Crennel will be playing both. In the 3-4, Jackson will be a DE with Dorsey and Henderson still undecided. While in the 4-3, Jackson will be a DE with Dorsey and Henderson playing the DT while Tamba Hali moves back to his old DE position.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
you mean like a cardinals defense during the superbowl years.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Where's Clancy Pendergast when you need him?
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
maybe crennel understands it better, but maybe they setup pendergast as a fall guy
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if he understands it better but he sure as hell can execute it better.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Pendergast’s problem was his playbook was too complicated for the players to remember.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
How about a 6-2 defense and get all that beef up there at the same time!!!!!!!!!
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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
could work
Romeo has a plan to use his players best I am sure
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
all i know
is we cant let him get away he completes our line weither its at NT or DE so it would be foolish to let him go it makes perfect sense
hey what do you guys think our chances are i mean if hes already in KC thats half the battle
won right.. right now I dont care where he plays as long as hes on our line in the starting line up.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt he's actually in KC right now
He’s not visiting until Wednesday.
That's what Pioli WANTS you to think.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Pioli WANTS it to be fine by you.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
you thinks so maybe there trying to keep everything hush hush huh man what the heck
with the guessing game I cant freakin wait for him to sign that dotted line end all the drama already wed is to far im not going to be able to sleep get it over with.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Pioli WANTS you to go sleepless.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
I posted it up there ^^^
But what’s it going to take to get him to walk away from Arrowhead with a signed contract in hand? 4-5 years…$20 million? I’m not sure what’s fair for a proven, but 31 year old D lineman. I’d think he’s got plenty left in the tank especially in rotation with our other players.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I replied up there ^^^
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
yup we have the depth
to keep him fresh with a good rotation and not wear him out to the point of where injuries can happen
I say three year 11 million with 2 million bonus.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
seems fair
I don’t want to overpay, but I don’t wanna see the big fella walk away either. Maybe we can get an Arthur Bryants sponsorship thrown in.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
throw in
some incentives so he can get paid more if he reaches so many tackles and sacks much more appealing to a player and offers some motivation
Okay, I will move my reply down here VVV
I think so but if he can get a few other teams interested then he may comand that but… …Pioli wouldn’t make a deal like that. He’s a big "I think you are worth _ _ _ _ , take it or leave it" kinda guy. He WILL NOT over pay for the veterans he signs.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
I went back
and got it, BigRed, thank you! Was also going to tell you congrats to Suh, Asante, and Dillard. Will be interesting to see how Crick does this year without the big man to his left.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Crick is a monster...
A few defensive names you might wanna get used to hearing:
Jason Ankrah
Baker Stienkuhler
Eric Martin
Cameron Merrideth
just to name a few.
God NU’s defense is gonna be NASTY again!
Also remember the name beacuse you are going to hear it ALOT: Taylor Martinez, he is going to be a stud at QB…. probably by mid-season I imagine.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Being a K-Stater...
I know most of those names. I heard Martinez had a pretty good spring game. I have a buddy in Scottsbluff that keeps me up to date on the Huskers. It’s a pretty fun rivalry.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I live in Kansas so all my friends are mostly K-Staters or Jayhawkers.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
that sounds like a good idea reward a player for his production.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
could get the motor running
if his work ethic has been in question for a couple seasons.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
uh huh
give him a decent price contract throw in some incentives and mix it all together and bam! you got yourself a big man !
yup
ill be throwing something if we dont sign him
not everyday
a proven bigman falls into your lap …uhhh i rephrase that i might break something :)
if he passes him i think ill just pig out just to take the bad taste out of my mouth.
just think one peace away from having a top 12 d.
That picture is disgraceful....LOL
Never mind his eyes are closed, but there’s a hold involved with poor #7 looking the opposite direction….hahahaha
Sign him!!
First team to see him always gets the advantage.
KC needs someone who wants to and can play NT
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
KC Wolf has proven to be quite the beast
Team Pioli/Haley
agree
KC Wolf is a massive tackling talent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQq32xUa_E0
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
We have a lot of football smart people on here
What’s with all the talk about Big John can’t or the chiefs arent thinking about him at NT. For 8 years we have watched this guy beast guards and centers and no one got under his pads or turned him. I mean I have watched this guy kill the run and in the back field no less….So With This I Ask With Big John In The Middle Of the Two LSU Boys And Romeo To Teach Where Are You Going To Run.
by The Head Chief on Apr 26, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions
haha...well put!
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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
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