Report: DT John Henderson Visiting The Chiefs Tomorrow
by Joel Thorman on Apr 26, 2010 11:18 AM CDT
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You said you were worried that the Chiefs didn't take a nose tackle in the 2010 NFL draft?
Well, maybe this is why they didn't.
Tom Rock of Newsday reports DT John Henderson is scheduled to visit the Chiefs tomorrow.
Henderson, 31, was released from the Jaguars this morning. SB Nation's Big Cat Country says the "writing has been on the wall" since the Jags drafted three defensive tackles in the last two drafts. He was reportedly on the trade block over the weekend, which might explain why the Chiefs chose to ignore nose tackle in the draft.
He's a massive 6'7", 328 pound defensive tackle. He's played in the Jaguars 4-3 defense since they made him the ninth overall pick in the 2002 draft.
I'm not sure why a 31-year old veteran would be interested in a position switch, especially a switch to nose tackle, which is arguably the most physically demanding position in football. It's hard to see him coming here as a defensive end, considering the depth the Chiefs have there, but several people are saying he makes sense as a 3-4 DE (as he was with the Jags last year).
[Editor's Note: I wanted to highlight some comments below. Henderson has 3-4 defensive end experience and, if that's what the Chiefs are viewing him as, it's possible this is a sign they're serious about moving Glenn Dorsey to nose tackle.]
The Chiefs could choose to make up his mind for him with a big contract offer.
The Chiefs have Ron Edwards, Shaun Smith and Dion Gales as the only nose tackles on the roster.
He's missed just eight starts in his eight year career.
(H/T nycchief for the first FanShot)
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Uuuuh... fuck yea?
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by ArrowSpread on Apr 26, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+2
1 for each fuck yeah
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
ok im on board big time we sign this guy
Dorsey in the middle and its over we r fine this guy is havoc get nasty chiefs in playoffs get ready.
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by sexassassin on Apr 26, 2010 12:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's the best...
I still think they should crop the upper right hand corner of it and use it as the new AP logo… just the arrowhead and the puppet strings
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* KC will NOT draft a LT in the first round, and the draft WILL be heavy on defense
slow down
I’ll take top 15
The Chiefs will finish .500 or better in 2010.
by Tony Perkins on Apr 26, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Adding a cut NT will turn a 30th ranked defense into top 5?
Ok.
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by craig in calgary on Apr 26, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
In combination with the other moves
it will improve…though top 5 may be a reach… ;)
Predictions:
This year will be better
If we are top 15
That would be a major improvement, and we should all be happy.
Top 5…maybe in a couple years.
A 4-3 tackle to boot
Jag fans don’t seem too sorry that he’s leaving. Apparently he hasn’t played with any passion for the last two seasons.
by Pantherhare on Apr 26, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
They just havent been slapping him hard enough.
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exactly, let Shaun Smith give him that slap.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe because they jags are a team that is turning old as isnt going anywhere
he needs a change of scenery.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Kind of hard to get excited in Jacksonville.
The team is always rumored to be moving, Jack Del Rio is getting stale there, the offense is stuck in mediocre mode, the defense keeps getting winded, the team is not exciting, the fans don’t care, the team is stuck in mediocry, the team has no upside, the team is getting old, the team needs rebuilt, and there is always a threat of losing your job with the team trying to get younger.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Let a guy dream for a little while : )
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by oldchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Anything better than 4.7 yards per carry
Too many career games for the opposition.
by Steve The Hedge on Apr 26, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm that was fast
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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 11:20 AM CDT reply actions
not when she was with me
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
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by Leaf on Apr 26, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe she said
“Is it in yet?” followed by laughter.
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by Scaryclouds on Apr 26, 2010 12:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
as a poker announcer once said.....
“it ain’t much but he’s all in.”
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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 26, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
So why in the hell wouldn't Chan
use Stroud @ NT?
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by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 26, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions
Cuz Stroud sucks without Henderson?
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by SuperTurtle on Apr 26, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
yep...how exciting would it be to have big john sign with us?
Team Pioli/Haley
Very
Would certainly quell my concerns about not filling NT in the draft
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by SuperTurtle on Apr 26, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
That's funny
Because Jag fans are saying Henderson sucks without Stroud.
by Pantherhare on Apr 26, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
They were a cute couple
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Gales is DE/NT
So he should be safe with his versatility….I hope!
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 11:22 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
he should give you a percentage of his contract!
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* KC will NOT draft a LT in the first round, and the draft WILL be heavy on defense
All I want
Is for him to have a place on our roster for years to come.
I just read a bunch of Jaguar threads and they all say JH is a perfect 34 DE but would never be a NT because he can’t get leverage at his height.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 11:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Quick somebody buy Dorsey a box of Ho-Hos
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Dorsey might be switching over to NT rotation.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 11:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This is what I was thinking
Henderson at DE
Dorsey at NT
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 26, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Henderson, with his height...
I’d think would be better suited lining up in most QBs faces at the LDE spot, where he can get those long mitts on more balls.
Would seem like a waste to put all that height on the QBs blind side, imo.
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by ArrowSpread on Apr 26, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
And since T-Jax is already manning that spot...
NT has to be the only option, if he’s to start full time.
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by ArrowSpread on Apr 26, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Or him starting on the RE spot Dorsey at DE
would allow Dorsey to command the double team from the RG/C, and Henderson with his long arms to hopefully command a double team from LG/LT. Either the C would have to work with a guard to help against Dorsey or Henderson leaving Hali 1 on 1 with an LT, T-jax 1 on 1 vs RT, Vrabel 1 on 1 vs a TE.
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 26, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Crawfish...dude loves crawfish...
I wonder if Dorsey would want to play nose or not. Not that it’s really his choice, but I’m curious.
On one side, you are moving from a position where you make few plays, to a position you make even less.
On the other hand, you get to eat like you used to…and the dude loves to eat. I remember that JoPo piece.
Have you seen the NT contracts?
He would probably be OK with it :)
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by Tony Perkins on Apr 26, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
let's trade for JaMarcus Russell just so he can room with dorsey to help him bulk up
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by chief Stevie_k on Apr 26, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Jags fans are not savvy NFL fans.
They’re college fans.
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Dion Gales
Isn’t Gales about 285?I see him as a DT or DE,not NT.
John Soellner
Yeah
He played a little of both. He is scheme versital. He played a little of both at Troy in college.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 11:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Just heard this on 810
Hope he’s willing to play NT.
If he is…I promise I won’t b8tch any more about passing on Cam Thomas in the 5th.
same thoughts here
I got a couple grey hairs friday and saturday, this would be like greecian formula and make it all go away. Totally on the JH bandwagon!!
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by ChiefsMonster on Apr 26, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I think..
he might be a little tall for nose but oh yeah go sign him. He is a big ace space eater and a vet that still has years left. I can see him manning the position well just playing on the line for so long.
Let's get Adalius lined up for a visit.
Get’em both in here tomorrow, let’s make this happen!!
surely
he can play nose with dorsey and tj he wont see double teams consistenly and then rotate shaun smith with him and you got a pretty good pair of DT!
I think you said it a lot Joel
Pioli believed (still) that the Chiefs answer for the NT was already in the league, and we could find him. So many tackles drafted, I’m guessing Henderson won’t be the last available option before September, but he sure does look like a great choice.
He certainly will
take up space and give Dorsey and Jackson a great chance at improving their stock, add in the solid draft and couple pickups already and this is looking good
Yeah it was
As soon as I get in from lunch I read about this man-eater tackle comin to town! Fire up the BBQ boys……
by Hail2DaChiefs on Apr 26, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
We should hold a AP BBQ
To get him to choose KC…..
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yeah def
i think he fulfills a need and brings depth there i dunno he is a proven run stuffer with some pass rushing ability it would be really hard to let him go and not think that was foolish
Let's get John Henderson
Make Dorsey the NT and Henderson the DE, or make Henderson the NT and Dorsey the DE. Either way this is dream come true!
Why wait for tomorrow Pioli? Sign him now!
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Wow, same thought at the same time. Great minds and all that...
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agreed,,,, i hope many of the doubters that call themselves chiefs fans that I have been battling for the last
couple days just shut up and stop crying Pioli nows what he is doing he is not carl peterson, the same way alot of players they are sighning are competitive the same way this coaching staff is too. I think thay want to atleast make the playoffs this year even go to the second round.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
J.Henderson
Pioli would make up for a HUGE mistake by the chiefs.They should have drafted Henderson instead of,well ya know!!!!
John Soellner
"They should have drafted Henderson instead of"
Lol You can draft opposing teams players? We should have drafted Peyton Manning than. ;)
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
NO WAY
ryan sims was a great pick ahead of him(not sure how to do the sarcastic writing)
HEY........quit playing with your dingy
by cassel4prez on Apr 26, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
If they think he can play NT and he is game, then LET"S DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just a random thought, there are rumors out there (mostly from Nick Wright) that they have talked about trying Dorsey at NT. Do you think they would consider putting Dorsey in the middle with the taller Henderson at DE?
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Bring him and worry about where to play him after
I would agree with that being a possibility though
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by Tony Perkins on Apr 26, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Henderson NT or DE
Either way, Henderson is a beast. In the middle, can you imagine throwing over this guy at 6’7. Our improved secondary and LB’s will have a field day with INT’s
by Wahoo 4 Life on Apr 26, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
HENDERSON
Henderson got cut at 5mill per year. We can bring him in at 3 mill/year .Even if he doesnt pan out we arent on the hook for very much. This guys eats space and will command double teams. No risk big Reward for this guy. Sign him Godfather! I smell 10 wins!!
Wow
how times have changed when 3 mil isn’t being on the hook for very much, lol
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by Tony Perkins on Apr 26, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
you can thank Bernanke for that one
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by Sudden on Apr 26, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
and playoffs baby!!!!!! I can only imagine how arrowhead is going to be like on monday night
with these type of signings just like the old days packed sea of red -—————-and the Home of the Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I think were gonna have to do more than 3 a year
sounds like he has alot of people intrested in his services
HEY........quit playing with your dingy
by cassel4prez on Apr 26, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Trying not to get too pumped up.........nothing is for sure........deep breaths.........
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by KCporkchop on Apr 26, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Can't breath deep.....
Mouth full of Kool-Aid….. =)
by Hail2DaChiefs on Apr 26, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
swear the pollen is worse this year...brutal in cali
Team Pioli/Haley
Same here in NC man
My parking lot is yellow
by Hail2DaChiefs on Apr 26, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
My boss said it was the worst year on record.
I’m not sure if that’s accurate, but the crap is everywhere!
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 26, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
bummer...allergy stuff does nothing...got the itchy eyes...etc etc
Team Pioli/Haley
even worse in NJ
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by njchiefs on Apr 26, 2010 11:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hmm, yeah allavert has done NOTHING for me
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I've been doubling up on Clariton and Benadyl
Not sure if you’re suppose to do that, but that finally got my eyes to stop burning.
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Get you a brown paper bag and calm down…haha!!
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 11:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh man, if we sign Henderson
I may rent out a swimming pool, fill it with red Kool Aid and throw an AP Kool Aid Pool Party!
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
if only you had gills...
you could forever live your life in a pool filled with berry koolaid
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by chiefsandcigars on Apr 26, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
filled with airplane glue!
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yup
you got not much to lose and alot to gain he will make dorsey and tj look better and free up our linebackers to make plays. if we sign him pioli’s draft will look even better
My birthday is coming up
the best birthday present i could ask for is John Henderson anchoring the Chiefs D-line, and Adalius Thomas roaming the field and putting Phillip Rivers / Antonio Gates / Tim Tebow / Darren McFadden on his ARSE!!!!
if we sign Big John and Adalius, we fill huge positions of need with stud players. it would make us a playoff team and my prediction would go from 7-9 to 10-6
Thomas is nice, but...
Thomas is nice, but I might like Clint Ingram a little better overall since he is a ILB.
We could use an ILB and OLB
To be fair.
We probably could use two new starters there.
maybe Kc is content with what we have in belcher/dj
Team Pioli/Haley
I think they like Demorrio, Belcher, DJ...
and they love Vrabel and Hali
And, they did draft another OLB prospect
So, I really think they’ll be content with ONE new ILB for this year…
and there’s a couple of guys in as UDFA that have a shot
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* KC will NOT draft a LT in the first round, and the draft WILL be heavy on defense
agreed...what do you think about big hendo learning to play nt
Team Pioli/Haley
Thomas could potentially play ILB as well
I would like to add another LB, Vrabel’s versatility gives us some flexibility as far as what we go after.
I’m not sure they ‘love’ Vrabel as a starter at this point, though.
I think he is a win-win type of player...
Bring him in as a NT, but if that doesn’t work out slide him into Dorsey’s spot and move Dorsey inside to NT. There is already a lot of talk that Dorsey could be playing some NT…. Pioli even admitted as much.
I'd be good with this.
Would it have been nice to draft a NT? Sure, but Pioli, as I am a firm believer in, has a plan. Cody, Troup or Thomas would have just been competition for Smith and Edwards. It would have been unlikely for any of them to start day one, or perhaps even this year. Let’s grab some beef that gets cut off of other teams and let them fight for a starting spot.
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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions
Also
Looked at his stats. dude is a beast. avg 50 tackles a yr and 3.5 sacks. So big. Nit sure if the leverage thing at Nose tackle would be a problem because he is quick too. And the Centers in the afc west arent that great. Broncos have 2 rookies, Raiders have Samson Satele who was traded from Miami and Cahrgers have Hardwick who is good but guards arent that great.
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I said this during the draft....as many others did...
I LOVE IT..
IF WE SIGN BIG HENDERSON
oh…my….goodness
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remember sdchief all those fans moaning and graoning about not taking cody where they at now
i rather have this big dude he will help this line dramatically.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Let's see here
We could have had Mt. Cody (Terence Cody), or Mt. Everestt (John Henderson). Don Pioli you are a mastermind with noone above or equal to you!
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
This has certainly shut me up
I still want to draft a NT at some point, but getting Henderson will make the draft look better.
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by Scaryclouds on Apr 26, 2010 12:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe we can pickup a solid dt next year and bring him along so that when henderson
leaves this nt will be groomed and ready to go.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
my guess
Is they plan on putting Dorsey at NT and Hendy at DE. Either way depending on how Jackson will progress it calls for a stout dline that will cause havoc and stop the run with ridiculousness. We won’t need beastly LBs just adequate ones that can tackle
by BiiG_C on Apr 26, 2010 1:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm kind of worried about Dorsey becoming the Jason Cambell of DTs
But Instead of a new coordinator each year, it’s a new position.
i think they should try him at nt throw him in the water see if he can swim if he can
no need for dorsey to learn another position just improve in the one hes in already.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Former 9th overall pick.
Nice. I remember this guy. Hell of a player right there.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions
Henderson is sized more for a 3-4 DE than NT
But he’d be a great addition regardless.
I think he would play NT...but if we sign this guy as DE, then maybe dorsey IS moving to NT
Team Pioli/Haley
Yeah...
I think that would be the best way to go.
RDE Henderson, Magee
NT Dorsey (315 lbs.), S Smith
LDE Jackson, Gilberry
I like it, I like it. Magee can come in on 3rd down to rush the passer.
Call me Red or IBR for short
by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 26, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
but henderson is 335 ibs even nt washington was 6-5
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Great point.
a lot people seem to forget that the Crennel defense in NE utilized a tall 6’5" NT known as the Washington Monument or Mt. Washington.
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Either way.
I love this move. TJ and Dorsey are improving quite well. Than we add Mt. Everestt (Name one defensive player bigger than John Henderson. Not even Mt. Cody is that tall.). That is a defensive line I would not want to face. Could really care less rather it is Henderson or Dorsey that anchors the defense. They both would be good at it, imo.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
imagine the pressure just by the opposing qbs looking at our line will rattle thier mental focus
that way they make mistakes and berry capatillizes on them with pick and tds.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
HE’S IS 6 FT 7 335LBS-HOW IS HE MORE OF A DE THAN NT??-HE CAN PLAY BOTH AND HAS BEEN PLAYING NT HIS WHOLE CAREER
Yeah...
they aren’t the same as 3-4 nose tackles, but thats what they are labeled as.
Call me Red or IBR for short
by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 26, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
but in our scheme you want someone a little more stout. He is going to lose a lot of leverage at 6’7".
Call me Red or IBR for short
by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 26, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
hes going to do more than what cody was going to do cody will just sit there and
take up space at 350 lbs this guy is 335 more agile and will give pore fits to opposing o line.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldnt write off henderson@NT just for his height
shaun rogers and kris jenkins are both 6’5, a little diffrence
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by cassel4prez on Apr 26, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
John Henderson
Makes Shaun Rogers, Kris Jenkins, and Mt. Cody look like anthills you would find in your backyard.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
He's played 4-3 DT his whole career.
And since NT is more of a leverage game, you don’t necessarily want a guy that has to get WAY under where he’s most comfortable.
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by KaloPhoenix on Apr 26, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
3-4 NT vs 4-3 DT
i know there is a small difference but the guy is a monster-the key to the 3-4 NT is occuplying 2 blockers so your LB’s can run free. I’m sure at 6’7 335 he will do that.
It's quite a bit different.
In a 4-3, he’s trying to gain penetration. Double teams are coincidental, not what he’s attempting to do.
In a 3-4, he’ll need to eat up those blockers, so he’ll need to play under the pads of the center/guard he’s double teaming. At 6’7", that’s more difficult. Add that to the fact that he’s not played the position with these responsibilities before.
I’m not saying he can’t do it, but that’s why some think he’ll struggle with a NT switch.
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by KaloPhoenix on Apr 26, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess if any team can take the chance to see..
Team Pioli/Haley
Oh, I totally agree.
I’m absolutely down with bringing him in. If NT is the position he’ll play, great. If it’s DE, great.
I’m not one to turn away a talent like this.
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by KaloPhoenix on Apr 26, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
hes been facing double teams his whole career.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure he saw his fair share.
But it’s different when you’re the one making sure you get a double team and holding it to you as opposed to getting a double team and getting away from it.
Once again, I’m not against him. Just stating why others may be making the case.
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by KaloPhoenix on Apr 26, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
if he gets away fine let him get the sack it doesnt matter who sacks the qb as long as
the qb is on his back all day.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Make Henderson a 3-4 DE and Glenn Dorsey a 3-4 NT than.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
henderson is more stout and stronger than dorsey he is the nt.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Than keep Glenn Dorsey as a 3-4 DE and John Henderson a 3-4 NT.
Either way works for me. Just sign John Henderson now!
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Ted Washington - 6'5", about 350 lbs.
NT, NE Patriots, Super Bowl Champion 2003-04 Season.
I think Romeo knows what he’s doing.
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this guy is a monster
but i have to wonder why the jags think he needs to be released
I think it has to do with age..
They brought in a quality rookie last year and drafted two more DT’s in this draft. I think they want to go younger at DT. Not to mention Henderson wasn’t cheap.
its because they had a young dt that played great last year and they brought in the first round dt
and want to plug him in right away so instead of paying a high bonus to big henderson to just ride the bench they prefer to release him.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
He's had back problems his whole career in Jax.
I think he had them at Tenn. too. He’s probably tired of having to be a 1 man line in Jax. These fans will turn on a guy quickly here too.
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then how come hes only missed 4 games in ten years
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Cause he played through 'em.
I still hope he becomes a Chief. Just that age magnifies those types of issues. You youngsters will find that out someday.
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At either NT or DE
Henderson will be taking up space. Bottom line. It will take more than one player to block this man. I don’t care if he’s stuffing the run in the middle or taking up the OG and OT, this would be a great addition.
Yup either NT or DE...
Work both Dorsey and Henderson at NT and DE. Find who works best where with that package. We can’t go wrong with both on the field at the same time along with TJack!
Tyson Alualu
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 11:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Too many DTs.
They just drafted Alualu 10th overall and added another one later on.
And his contract is probably as big as he is.
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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
And actually...
I just read that they took 4 DL with their first 4 picks.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
You don't just accidentally draft 3 DTs and have to release your former pro-bowler
They must be down on him
by VermeilLikesToCry on Apr 26, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Eats all the catered food in the locker room?
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 11:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
no they just dont want to pay the high money bonus to him just to ride the pine.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
They don't want to pay the bonus, period.
They’ve got young guys and are moving him out… he has been injured a bit the last few years, (4 games missed in 3 years) so my belief is that they’re betting the injuries are going to become more of a problem as he gets older and don’t want to pay his bonus.
I think as long as we expect him to be just a 2-down guy, he could be a real asset for us.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Sign him just for his pre-game ritual
John Henderson gets PUMPED up for games with slaps in the face.
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Beer: check
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Beer: check
I can just see Haley's eyes lighting up
“Hell Yeah! I’ll slap that mother f……!!!!!!!!!”
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Hahaha
Hilarious!!!
I could see Haley walking up to him
“Hey John, umm I was wondering if I could give you a few of your pregame face slaps?”
“Sure Coach, why not”
30 minutes later, Crennel walks to the locker room looking for John and finds Haley stradled on top of Henderson still smacking the shit out of him!! Haha
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 11:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I want the skinny kid's job.
I want to be able to tell people that I bitch slap professional football players for a living.
Also, watch this other video of Henderson’s ritual.
It sounds like Henderson and Haley will at least be speaking the same language.
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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Even more impressive than the slaps is how small the doors look when he goes through them
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Beer: check
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Beer: check
This is true.
He’s one scary sonofabitch. The next few days should be exciting…
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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I would not have the balls to be the pregame trainer
that is what massive man there.
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hahahaah im excited
this guy is crazy the only thing is though is he has no 3-4 experience
"WIth the 5th pick in the 2010 NFL draft the Kansas City Chiefs select... Eric Berry Safety Tennesee... "
Romeo Crennel is the answer...
I’m sure Romeo could coach up Henderson to work just fine in the 3-4. Romeo is a DL coach by trade.
yeah starting to understand how we will coach up certain positions, but spots like DB require instincts that cant be taught
Team Pioli/Haley
Berry.....
Dude I’m so excited that we actually picked him.
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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
"Awwwwww yeahhh, I always wanted to be a Chief, baby!"
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I slammed the dresser, repeatedly...
While yelling “That’s wtf I’m talkin about! THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKIN ABOUT!”
My two year old walked in and said “Daddy, stop bangin!”
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by ArrowSpread on Apr 26, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
oh I lost my voice over a 5 min span :)
Team Pioli/Haley
That's funny, I don't even remember what I was yelling when I saw him on the phone
but my 2 year old daughter came running in looking worried and goes “I don’t like that show your watching, turn it off.” I picked her up and started dancing around the room. She was looking at me like I was crazy and finally said “stop that daddy”.
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by chiefsandcigars on Apr 26, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
who cares
you dont need 3-4 experience all you need to do is grab as many linemen as you can and run them over ! lol
by rickrock58 on Apr 26, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Done.
Plant his fat ass in the middle and feed him some RB’s for dinner.
by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Apr 26, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
hes not cody he has more muscle on him than an ordinary dt.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
not much fat there
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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
yup
and if he does sign doesn’t that draft look like wayyyyy better
bubble
not trying to burst anyones bubble but the likelyhood of him wanting to switch at 31 is pretty slim, plus its not like we are a winning team (past)
by redandgoldblood on Apr 26, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
Sounds like KC & NYG are the main suitors at this point
Would you rather play for an older, declining team like NY, or a younger up-&-coming team like KC? I think the main issue may be the switch to the 3-4, but I bet he’d like to play for Crennel.
Predictions:
This year will be better
I think the 3-4 would be the biggest hangup too, but...
New York also runs 3-4 sometimes. They like to have versatility with their D-Linemen so they can switch it up.
That being said, I think it comes down to where he feels the best fit is. I hope it’s KC.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Visit
He has to be a open to anything if he is coming for a visit. he knows we run a 3-4 and he knows our record for the last couple of years. I think that shows he is willing to switch.
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by mysonmylife on Apr 26, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Yet.
He can produce for 3 to 4 years. He may want to be a part of something special, if Pioli & Co can sell it to him.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
koolaid
Lets hope he’s drinking the PIOLI Juice. Its GOOOOOD
by redandgoldblood on Apr 26, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Had to laugh with the Pioli juice comment.
by bringbacktheglory on Apr 26, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I can see the music video
“they only love me for my Pioli Juice…..oooooooooeeeeeeeeeeooooooo….”
Your Mama!
update ::::: we are a raising team our glory days are on the horizon why wouldnt he want to sign
on a team like us that is going to contend for the next 5-7years with young talented men that have their heads screwed on right look at the pats old and their sliding its our turn now baby!!!!!! we got the right mix and we are become attractive ladies and gentlemen maybe you guys got to use to bieng in the bottom of the barrel come out the sun is coming out buddy get rid of your cancer and bad attitude.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Need to find out exactly why the Jags wanted to get rid of him.
You don’t just accidentally draft 3 DTs and then feel like you have to release your former pro-bowl DT.
Obviously they are down on him, and so is the rest of the league (no one would even trade a 7th rounder for him and pay $5mil).
by VermeilLikesToCry on Apr 26, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions
The Jags are losing a lot of money
The salary cut may be the primary reason.
Predictions:
This year will be better
Could be true, but
If they were completely desperate for money, i’d expect they would have desperately traded down from their first round pick. But who knows.
by VermeilLikesToCry on Apr 26, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
or they like their new pick they reached for
Team Pioli/Haley
like i said on top let me repeat myself, they had a young dt that played well with henderson
and they added another dt in the first round that they want to plug in right away so instead of paying the bonus to henederson to ride the pine they rather release him, nobody traded for him beacuse they new later he was going to be released so why waste a pick.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Last year they drafted Derrick Harvey, Florida DE.
Moved up to get him. He didn’t do crap. Labelled a disappointment by many.
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The Jags will be in Los Angeles next year.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Get him
I’m not sure he can plat DE he just isn’t fast enough to get to the outside. He is tall but his scouting report says he is strong enough to play in the middle of a D-line but not fast enough to get to the outside. He will be a big pick up, he has only missed 4 games his whole career. He gives us options on the line. This is a win for us.
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yeah
but in the 3-4 we aint asking him to be a star just eat up blockers and with his size and strength aint no center blocking him one on one and that will be his main job and if he needs a blow shaun smith or dorsey keeping him fresher in the 4-3 he was playing alot and at his age he needs breaks we have the depth to give that to him
Why are people calling him a DE?
328 pounds… that’s a nose tackle. Height doesn’t matter. You’re telling me that you think a 6’1 300 pound center is gonna be able to stop a 6’7 330 pound tackle because of “center of gravity”? I don’t know what school you guys went to, but that just doesn’t make sense.
That's how physics works, actually
It’s all about leverage. Pushing up and out is much easier than pushing down and in because you can stabilize yourself against the ground. Plus, your leg muscles are much stronger than your back muscles.
All that said, I would definitely be willing to see if he could learn to get those pads low as our NT. If it doesn’t work out, DE. Either way we win.
by Soria's Unibrow on Apr 26, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
But Henderson can get pretty low
And just EXPLODE to his full height, throwing the center right onto the QB for a sack /Sarcasm. But seriously, really want him in KC
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by SuperTurtle on Apr 26, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Awesome!! Haha
Best thing I have read all day!! Love that image of JH doing that.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 12:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Anybody remember Jumpy Geathers?
To quote Wikipedia:
“At 6’ 7” and 290 pounds he was a forceful pass rusher, famous for his “forklift” rush, in which he picked up his blocker and carried him to the quarterback."
He was really more like 300, but he would do just that… get low, explode up into the o-lineman’s chest and lift/throw/push the o-lineman into the pocket. Still one of my favorite non-Chiefs ever.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not only up to the C to block an NT
If that were the case the C would have a much more important role. The NT does need some leverage to take up space, he has to be able to push around the C and a G at the same time. Not saying Henderson can’t/won’t do that, but that’s where people are getting the idea that he might be a DE.
thank you
i dunno why i thought 328. pretty much the same though.
Henderson has played some NT over the last couple years with the Jags.
The Jaguars frequently use 3-4 looks where John has been the NT. Although the fans over at BCC wish they had got something for him they do think someone needed a change of scenery or someone new pushing him to get him back to his potential. I posed the question to their fans on their opinions so we’ll see how it comes back.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
More people are saying 3-4 DE
Played a little DE w/ the Jags last year when they lined up in a three man front.
Still, I think they gotta be looking at him as a possible NT. Bringing in a well paid 3-4 DE just doesn’t make much sense to me.
Yep
He’d probably hold the DE position nearly as well as Dorsey & Dorsey would be a significant upgrade at NT over Ron Edwards.
Predictions:
This year will be better
Pioli said bring in good players and go from there
better problem to have than our current one
The Chiefs will finish .500 or better in 2010.
by Tony Perkins on Apr 26, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
If they slide Dorsey over to NT
It makes all the sense in the world. Plus we need to aquire talent regardless of the position…imo
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 12:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Mountain of a man
I remember meeting him at Jags game. Dude is HUGE!!
Give me Cody AND McClain please.
Fact is with Crennel as the D-Coordinator.
If he sees a spot for him that he can use him then he’ll be here whether at NT or DE. I’m not completely drunk on Koolaid but I’d imagine Crennel of all people would have a good grasp on this.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
It becomes and issue of what to do with Dorsey and Jackson though.
Jackson is the 3-4 DE. That’s not going to change. Do you think they’ll move Dorsey again? I doubt it. That will have him playing a different position and technique in his first 3 years. At some point you have to let the guy get settled.
It makes more sense to let your 3rd year player develop in one spot rather than bringing in a 10 year veteran to take it from him, when Henderson himself will be playing a new position and technique.
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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
henderson will play nt if he comes in
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
It just seems silly to move Dorsey to a position he MIGHT be good at when he already did well in his position last year. It makes way more sense to bring in a monster DT that MIGHT be able to play NT.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
right this is a typical crennel type nt carlos rogers 6-5 yed washington 6-5 dont you
think maybe thats why they didnt draft any nts. maybe they wanted a nt that can contribute right away that has a resume in the nfl.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Chris hovan
Hovan was just released too. Is he a DT or NT?
by Bilk on Apr 26, 2010 12:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
At 6'2" and 296 pounds.
Chris Hovan is a 4-3 DT.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HovaCh20.htm
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Do we need to pay his bitchslapper too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4cXZGkRMCY
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LOL
Loving the image of Haley slapping him
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by SuperTurtle on Apr 26, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
The Problem is that Todd Haley will turn it into a ritual with all his players
Poor Brodie is gonna come back to the sidelines during a preseason game after failing to snap the fucking ball and take his helmet off and Haley is gonna jump on him, foaming at the mouth, repeatedly slapping him in the face while Brodie’s woman shreiks in horror.
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by Sudden on Apr 26, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nah, hell have Henderson slap him
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by SuperTurtle on Apr 26, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
He'd get killed.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 26, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
indeed
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Apr 26, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoa, get this beast!
I don’t care which position he plays on D. They can figure that one out after they sign him.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
THAT EXPLAINS ALL THE DB'S IN THE DRAFT
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by SuperTurtle on Apr 26, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Apparently the Giants and Browns are also suitors
I would think we would give him the best situation, if he’s looking for playing time. NY & Cleveland just need depth, we need someone to compete to be the starting NT.
We will probably have to sign him to a hefty sum of money to get him
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by SuperTurtle on Apr 26, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm...I'm not so sure
At his age, I don’t know if he’s looking at a huge contract.
I would guess $3 mil per at the most.
Maybe 3 years, $10 mil with like $3 guaranteed
I think Pioli is a hypnotist.
He got Jones and Lilja to take less money. I am sure he can do the same here. “You’re getting very, very sleepy.”
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
To which I say, "So what..."
Dorsey, Jackson and Berry are going to be the highest paid players on the team. They’ve only signed one player to a high priced contract in Cassel.
They have the money to maneuver. If he’s the guy, cough up the cash. If not. Don’t.
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Good rundown on Henderson
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2010/4/26/1445018/releasing-john-henderson-the-right#storyjump
As Joel said I guess 3-4 end is more likely and according to this it was a position that he fared ok at. I was sure he lined up some at NT but I can see where the height would be a concern at NT.
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I was thinking the same.
Seems like a LDE to me too.
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by GenericBrand on Apr 26, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Why don't we just
sign Jason Whitlock to play NT…
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by SwimCoach on Apr 26, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Only if you can duct tape ribs to the opposing Center and Guards.
"And the Chiefs line-up in a Wildcat formation with Eric Berry as QB. There's the snap...it's a short pass to Jamal Charles, he's at the 10 the 20 and it looks like he's going to be run out of bounds...LATERAL to Mccluster who is streaking up the field...TOUCHDOWN KAN-SAS-CITY!!!!"
by mushin on Apr 26, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly...
I’m sure Gates would work something out for the chiefs
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
Pete Prisco from a few years back thinks he could play NT...
Which interior defensive lineman is the best run stopper?
My choice isn’t a nose tackle. My choice is Jaguars defensive tackle John Henderson. In the Jaguars’ 4-3 scheme and playing alongside Marcus Stroud, Henderson is a force against the run.
Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio said Henderson is the first three-gap tackle he’s seen. That’s high praise in a two-gap system. At 6-foot-7, 325 pounds, he doesn’t get his due playing next to Stroud, but has outplayed him this season and last. Stroud has been bothered by injuries the past two years or he’d be in this conversation, too. As it is, Henderson was cheated out of a Pro Bowl berth last season, but he should go this season.
In addition to being a great run player, he also has three sacks. If he were forced to play nose tackle, he’d be fine at that. But the fact he plays in a 4-3 might hinder his chances of being picked as the best run player in the league. Watch him. He’s a physical force.
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Check out this guy's mean streak against the Bengals
http://www.nfl.com/players/johnhenderson/profile?id=HEN076396
Look at 2nd video to the right…(couldn’t paste video here) where he gets thrown out of the game for fighting. Knocks OG’s helmet off during play which sparks fight.
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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions
john henderson
I’m trying to figure out how many of you actually have watched a true 3-4. A NT in a 3-4 needs to be able to take up 2-3 blockers a play. He also needs to have great leverage and explosion and flexibility from his hips. If you watch any film on Henderson you will see that he has all 3 and is dominant in all 3. There is no other D-line player in the league who has his skill for his size. He will show that the system is flawed and that you don’t need a short stout guy to play NT. He is as strong as an ox and can take on all linemen. He is more than a solid NT, he very well might be a Pro-Bowl NT.
by red_manwalkin83 on Apr 26, 2010 12:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
If you're right, and we sign him, AFC West watch out.
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This guy is an animal!
Did anyone see on Sportscenter a few years ago; the pregame ritual Henderson used to do before the game! He would have a teammate smack him across the face (very hard), and then he would do it to himself over and over! I love this guy! He is a Ray Lewis type, run stopper on the D-Line! We gotta get this crazy mother!!!!
I agree..
he does all three well,Haloti Ggata for Baltimore is a beast. Granted he’s heavier and shorter but a 6’4 he’s not the shortest NT and he’s a machine at the position
If we sign him what this tells me is that my man Dorsey is moving to the NT position.
An that would be awesome. Hope this happens.
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions
henderson is a nt. if they where going to move dorsey they would of drafted another de.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
He is to tall from what I've heard. 6'5 is huge at NT
Dorsey is a perfect 6’0. Now I’m not in charge so what do I know but that would make sense to me.
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
ted washington nt for the superbowl champs pats under dc crennel was 6-5 cleveland under
hc crennel had carlos rogers 6-5 nt
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah but we get the first stab at him
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think its safe to try and stab someone who likes to be slapped in the face
"And the Chiefs line-up in a Wildcat formation with Eric Berry as QB. There's the snap...it's a short pass to Jamal Charles, he's at the 10 the 20 and it looks like he's going to be run out of bounds...LATERAL to Mccluster who is streaking up the field...TOUCHDOWN KAN-SAS-CITY!!!!"
If you lined this guy up at Dorseys spot and he ate up two guys on the right side...
Imagine the possibilities for Hali.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
And just imagine when left handed tebow gets in the game.
Career highs my man.
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
They better line up a TE and RB on Halis side to help out this year.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Apr 26, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey everyone questioned Kris Jenkins' ability to convert from a 4-3 DT to a 3-4 NT when he was traded from Carolina to the Jets
That turned out well sans the injury which Jenkins has battled throughout his career.
Word is...
Romeo was balls out, standing on Scott’s desk this morning. “I’ll give you the left one for big John Henderson!”
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 12:52 PM CDT reply actions
he should also offer the right just in case.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
There was, however, lots of hoopla
...And as the roar of 80,000 red-clad great plains warriors fills the hallowed halls of Arrowhead, it will strike fear into the hearts of lesser men. For on that field, individual men toil for something greater than individual honors. They toil as brothers-in-arms, as 53 spirits striving towards a single purpose and driven by a single goal: The glory that comes with vanquishing your foes. They will achieve their birthright, they will be champions.
Even though he isn't a perfect fit for a 34, at least he has actual talent, unlike ron edwards
I’d rather have a Henderson/Smith rotation tenfold over a Edwards/Smith rotation
He won't play NT. DE. Dorsey to NT.
Dorsey is perfect height for NT an has gained that grown man strength. Remember he is still a growing young man. I’m 25 an still growing.
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
he is going to play nt so you think big 6-5 ted washington who was under crennel when they
won the superbowl was a de no crennel likes big nt’s same with carlos rogers 6-5.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah I think he will play NT, but maybe dorsey goes to nt, I just think big john can play NT for us..we will see
Team Pioli/Haley
I see it this way.
Dorsey/Smith – NT
Jackson/Edwards- DE
Henderson/Magee- DE
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
DE left side. It's there
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
i see it this way
henderson/ smith/ edwards NT
jackson/ magee DE
Dorsey/ gilberry DE
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Completely off the subject
Why are the Field touchdown zone tickets behind the endzone so much cheaper than the tickets up on the third level at Arrowhead? Is the view horrible or something. Just was curious before I bought tickets to the Chargers game. Didn’t want to get ripped off.
It's personal preference
I like the upper deck much more but some people like the lower level even if they’re endzone seats. The issue from down there, obviously, is when they’re on the other side of the field…not so good.
Lower level is where it's at.
You know what i’m talking about section 121!
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I just moved my seats
Got literally my dream seats, upper deck, 50 yard line, row 3.
Figured out the seat improvement plan that I would be happy to share with fellow season ticketholders via email.
I could see liking 121
But behind the endzones, no way.
Ya I've had these tix since stadium opened. My gramps had them then dad then me.
Sell most(only to chiefs fans of course). Sucks living in Florida. You guys don’t understand how much I miss Sundays there.
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus the cookies the lady gives away to player an me when I was a child was aweeeesomeeee
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I've had mine since I graduated college
This will be season 8, I think…
But just this year figured out how to work the seat upgrade plan.
I’m literally 2 rows away from my dream seat. And I mean, if I could pick any seat in the stadium, that would be what I would pick.
Hopefully we give him a 1-2 yr deal
And put him in training camp to see if he can make the cut. I want him to prove he can play for us.
Well let see, we don't have great options currently at NT and Henderson is a big boy..... not really sure having him could hurt.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Great DT coverting to NT article by John Clayton
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 1:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
nice write up
"And the Chiefs line-up in a Wildcat formation with Eric Berry as QB. There's the snap...it's a short pass to Jamal Charles, he's at the 10 the 20 and it looks like he's going to be run out of bounds...LATERAL to Mccluster who is streaking up the field...TOUCHDOWN KAN-SAS-CITY!!!!"
Great find Matt
And great job. You just got me even more excited of John Henderson, if that was even possible.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong jags player
He can’t play the nose. He’ll get stood up and dumped on his ass every play. The worst center in the league could out leverage him in the middle at his height. We dont need a DE. We need to at least be LOOKING at clint ingram
I would be happy
With DJ and Corey Mays over Ingram. Nothing about Clint Ingram is impressive.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Apr 26, 2010 1:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I with you...
DJ is going to have a biggg season…mark my words. He`s finally got the playmakers around him that he needs to flourish.
I hope you're right because I want the same thing.
But we say that same thing every offseason. If he cant get it done under Crennel it probably just isnt going to happen.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Apr 26, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
if we sign henderson it will be that much better he will have a good year.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
But....
You dont get a guy like eric berry every offseason. Gonna be scaryy..Berry, DJ, Flowers, Arenas. Page and Carr will take another step too. Cant wait!!
Short lesson on leverage for layman
Taller people have more leverage…IF they play low, its physics. Why do you think some of the best wrestler (real wrestling) are tall and lanky?? being tall creates more leverage IF one plays low.
I dare you to tell big john he will “get dumped on his ass” every play…hahahaha. Thats seriously a laughable comment you just made. Not being a dick, but damn you’re way off base.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
What?
A bowling ball will always have leverage over a taller pin.
Ever hear of Maurice Jones-Drew? That guy gets leverage.
Ok i'll flow with your logic...
So why don’t NFL teams just get the shortest DL and OL possible? Just get a guy that is 5’6" 350 and you got a nose.
If using a bar as a lever to pry something open…do you have more leverage if that bar is longer or shorter???
A bowling ball doesn’t have leverage on a pin it has momentum and velocity.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
I hope cpa913 isnt one of those fans that was upset with the mccluster pick.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I was shocked we didn't get Golden Tate or a NT at that spot...
But after getting to know more about him, I’m really excited.
sure sillyhatday the same way carlos rogers and ted washington at 6-5 where gettin dumped
on there ass oh please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
you wanna tell that guy that he'll get stood up and dumped on his ass every play?
Cuz I sure as hell wouldn’t say anything to that man other than “yes sir.” Dude is a beast, dude is intense. Dude is our next NT.
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John Henderson is Nuts
I hope we sign this dude. Freak, mean streak, chip on his shoulder now…look out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruh4_xud37c&feature=related
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Less leader and more pyscho hahaha
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
lol great video
we need that guy pumpin up the D!! Lets go baby!!!
Gotta have blood in da mouth...
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
This is just as exciting as last year when we signed...
Zach Thomas
Amani Toomer
Ashley Lelie
some Tight End I’ve already forgotten from Dallas, but was excited about at the time
Mike Goff
Mike Brown
….I hope it’s different this year!
no way these sighnings are the same as
lilja o line
jones rb
chambers wr
wiagman c
if we sign henderson nt
way bigger difference.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
we will be
Finally got their feet settled in got a FULL feel for there team BEFORE going and getting help. Realized who they need to coach these kids. I love the part in one of these article about they draft ALL team captains. I likes!
mike goff what played couple games, amani toomer was let go right away, asley lelie the same,
zack thomas didnt play one down. these players this year are mules they rarely miss games they will make a difference.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
the guys we brought in last year were bumsss
this year is totally different…we got alot better already just through the draft. 1 or 2 more free agent pieces and we are set!
when we brought those guys in last year
this team didnt have an identity. they were brought in probably for competition and so todd haley can make a statement in saying no mans job is safe at any position. now that we have an identity, and guys have their positions and have played a year under haley and pioli, these signings are truly just to make the team better.
even pioli said “hey theres what, 5 months till the season start…we are going to continue to do everything we can to make this team better until then”
UT defensive end Robert Ayers sits alone in his locker, clad in full uniform, reading passages aloud from his white-covered Bible. Ellix Wilson's voice fades and silence holds for a few minutes.
Then Vols sophomore Eric Berry stands."When I say Killas, y'all say Killas and then when I say Trained Assassins, y'all say Trained Assassins and then when I say, Want Some, y'all say, Gone Get Some."
Then Berry starts, "Killas!"
"Killas!" the team replies in unison.
"Trained assassins!" Berry chants.
"Trained assassins!"
"Want some," Berry leads.
"Gone get some!"
"Let's go bang a motherfucker, man!" Berry screams in conclusion.
The guys they brought in last year were veterans with leadership potential.
They were Mike Vrabel types that in the end were at the end of their careers and couldn’t make the team. I don’t think Pioli had any intention of Zack Thomas playing at a high level for 3 or 4 more years.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
that is so incredibly ridiculous...those signings werent major signings or starters...and we are in a FAR different place than last...
its sad that some just say “we have sucked for years, so we will suck again”…you know, go root for someone then, instead of just rooting against the chiefs rebuild…
we had TWO regimes that did very little for our future…its time to change that.
Team Pioli/Haley
thats right im tired of consatly having to defend the Chiefs from other Chiefs fans I could name a
lot of them but I wont constantly trying to spread cancer, a guess they got so used to losing they want to stay there you know like the wife that gets beat up and it gets to the point where she thinks its normal and what surprises me is that these fans are fans from the 60’s 70’s long time fans I just dint get it.
by chiefslegend58 on Apr 26, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
My broseph is a Jags fan
And he said that one of the major reasons for the release is his lack of consistent effort and work ethic.
by alakan81 on Apr 26, 2010 1:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
He's also been there a long time and so has Del Rio and he's probably heard every word of advice his coach has had 10 times over.
Sometimes all it takes is a change of scenery and a new guy yelling in your face to run to the fence and back.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Apr 26, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
But if that was because "the writing was on the wall" type thing. Although not a good excuse. He still could turn the motor on againth
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Apr 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
he needs a coach to push him, a coach named crennel
Team Pioli/Haley
"Hey Jon"
“How would you like a little payback week 7 on your way to a division title?” <- All Pioli has to ask!
Honest question:
Hypothetically, who would you rather play NT for the Chiefs next year: Jamal Williams or John Henderson?
Henderson is younger, but Williams doesn’t have to learn a new position. I don’t have a specific opinion, and am interested in your feedback on this one.
Henderson because he costs us nothing and we would have to trade to get Williams.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Apr 26, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I Voted John Henderson for NT/DE
Pioli smells blood, the blood of Phillip Rivers, Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, and even Tim Teebow. The time has come to destroy the opposition. This guy would be a force on defense in either position, and that would allow our d-backs to step up, with their hair on fire, and absolutely light it up!!!
True
Just have John Henderson stand there and hold his arms up in the air. The QB is going to have to change his throwing mechanics to just complete a pass.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Orton will be an Oakland Raider in 2012 after Jason Campbell does not get resigned.
The two most unlucky QBs in the NFL.
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by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 26, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
and gets picked by berry....arenas
Team Pioli/Haley
Apparently Adalius Thomas isn't coming to KC:
According to Michael Smith.
No offense to you, but Michael Smith is a kind of a hack
I don’t trust any of those ESPN guys…
John Clayton and Adam Schefter I assume are right about 50% of the time (Schefter used to be about 80% of the time until he went over to the dark side).
Smith and Mort I just don’t believe unless someone else confirms it. This may be true… I’ll wait and see. :-)
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 26, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just commenting earlier today about how bad Schefter was during the draft
Of course, you can go back and look up what Smith said yourself if you don’t believe me.
He was all over the Chiefs moves.
No offense taken…you can go read it for yourself, and be proven wrong.
I was trying to do that, but I just don't have time to look at it all.
I will say, I remember him being surprisingly accurate a few times during the draft, although I mostly watched it on NFL Network.
Perhaps he’s better than I think overall, or perhaps the draft is his niche. Either way, he did do a good job.
Schefter was awful during the draft… honestly, most all of the analysts on both networks were struggling. I liked NFL network once it got a little later because Cory Chavous had some real insight on players I didn’t know much about.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 26, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I mostly watched NFLN during the draft
Had both going, mostly with the audio on NFLN.
But I had my twitter going as well, and Michael Smith was doing well with the Chiefs…with some other teams, not so much.
my goodness ... a lot of comments for an old, just released DT who may or may NOT work in our scheme
so what’s with Dorsey at NT thing? Henderson might be a good value and depth for the line, but …
time will tell, and yanno, he hasn’t even gotten here much less signed, much less played or whatever
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I didn't say he sucks ... I'm saying it's a bit premature to call him the end-all be-all answr to our front line issues
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
so since he hasnt signed, we shouldnt discuss it
Team Pioli/Haley
Dear Scott PIoli and John Henderson
First of all Mr. Pioli i have faith in you that you will OPEN THE CHECKBOOK and give Mr. Henderson what he wants to be a Kansas City Chief. Remind him that with him, and a few more additions he will be wearing a ring in 2012.
Mr. Henderson if you would please accept whatever the Don offers you. You are going to be a commodity here in KC and we really need your services for the run at superbowl 2012. Thank you for your interest, and we will have your jersey waiting.
Hell yea....let's sign him.
While we’re at it, we should bring in Faneca. Only to get him, we’d probably have to guarantee him a starting job up-fron.
He is 2 years younger than Brain Waters.
" The future ain't what it used to be " ~Yogi Berra~
I would love this move
DE, NT, whatever. Our D-line would get a nice boost from him. Hopefully he could help the development of our younger linemen too, through teaching and straight up leadership.
As long as he doesn't slap Dorsey
and spin his head off.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Apr 26, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
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