A Glass of Chiefs Kool Aid: The 2010 Draft Edition
by KCporkchop on Apr 26, 2010 1:01 AM CDT
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PrintFrom the FanPosts. Bumped up the time to now. -Joel
Well, the 2010 draft is in the books. As usual, there were plenty of surprises. Some of you are excited and some of you are not. I've tried to provide a little perspective for you, in this, your post draft glass of.....
I know the draft has brought AP some new members that may not be familiar with my "Kool Aid" perspective on things. If you are really interested, you can check out my original post The Kool Aid Drinkers Manifesto. I'll summarize the main point as this. I try and focus on the positives when it comes to the Chiefs.
I'm not in denial when it comes to some of our problems, but because I am so obsessed with the Chiefs, I can't focus all my thoughts and energy on what's wrong. I'd go crazy. I think there are logical, well thought out reasons to have hope for the future of our franchise. Many choose to label anyone who looks at these positives as a "Kool Aid Drinker". I got tired of fighting that stereo type so I decided to own it. So in my Kool Aid posts I try to point out some of these positive things for my fellow AP readers who like me live and die by this team.
Alright, let's get on with things. Here is my 2010 draft glass of Kool Aid.
Man, that picture makes me a very happy Porkchop.
For me personally, just drafting Eric Berry makes this draft a "win". However, I know there are some of you who did not like the idea of drafting a safety at number five overall. So let me just make a couple points for you before I move on to the other picks.
First, the number one reason I am so excited we went with Eric Berry is because I am hoping we don't draft in the top five again for a very long time. Let me explain what I mean. We have drafted in the top five picks three years in a row. In the two previous drafts we had three total first round picks. We spent those picks on a DT, OT, and a 3-4 DE. I like all three of those players. Games in the NFL (as many of you like to point out) usually come down to who wins the battle at the line of scrimmage, so we were smart to invest in the trenches. However, teams that win the Super Bowl do more then just control the line of scrimmage. They also have dynamic, game changing, elite talent (AKA - Superstars). Over the last few years our team has had an extreme lack of these kind of players. If we had drafted in the top five three years in a row and not come away with a single one of these players it would of been a missed opportunity. Yes, you can find these players later in the draft, but there are only a few players coming out of college each year that are considered a safe bet to become that type of player.
That leads me to my second point.
Almost everyone thinks Eric Berry is one of those special players. Even the "experts" that didn't like the idea of drafting a safety that high, still thought Berry was as close to a lock as a player coming out of college can be to being "that guy". Even the "experts" that had us picking Bulaga at five thought that Berry was the better player. We didn't reach for a guy that people thought talent wise, was a mid rounder. We picked a guy that was rated in the top 2-4 players on almost every single board out there. You can also make an argument that safety was probably one of our worst positions, talent wise, on our roster. I love this pick.
Now, I could go through each pick in this much detail, but others have already done a pretty good job of this in the last couple days. So instead I'll just give a quick thought on what I like about each pick and then I'll get to the bigger picture.
Dexter McCluster - We've all heard about his crazy play making ability, but for all you that were wanting Terrence Cody with that pick think about this, McCluster is 5'9" and 170 lbs. Cody is listed now as 6'4" and 354 lbs. Let's compare their bench press numbers. Keep in mind the bench press reps are at 225 lbs. That's 55 lbs. more then McCluster weighs and almost 130 lbs less then Cody weighs. McCluster did 20 reps and Cody did 22. Just think about that for a second.
Javier Arenas - Okay, we all like the fact that he is a stud kick returner. The major complaint about this pick people have is that we needed other positions more since we already have Flowers and Carr at CB. One thing that stuck out to me at the post draft press conference that Haley and Pioli did was that they said the nickel corner is on the field for 50-60% of the defensive snaps in today's NFL. Last year we were running out guys like Mike Richardson and Travis Daniels at that spot and they were getting torched. This was a major position of need and the kick return ability is just icing on the cake.
Jon Asamoah - Everyone already loves this pick so its easy to sell. I'll add this, Asamoah is said to have a nasty streak which is great in an offensive linemen. However, it seems like most of the "nasties" tend to be the big mauler types. Asamoah is very agile and scouts across the board said he would be good in a zone blocking scheme. Finding a guard that has size, mobility for zone blocking, and a nasty streak is a steal in the third round.
Tony Moeaki - Is a gamble, I admit it. I understand people being pissed that we gave up a pick for a guy with a lot of injury problems in the past. That's a fair complaint. However, none of these injuries were major ones that will have a lasting effect on his career. If he does stay healthy he will be our starting TE, possibly as soon as week one. That's not too bad for the late third round.
Kendrick Lewis - If this guy just ends up as a dependable back up and a great special teamer then you are getting your money's worth out of a fifth round pick. If he turns into a starter then you just hit a home run.
Cameron Sheffield - We need pass rush help. If Romeo can just coach this guy up enough to come in on third downs and blitz opposite Hali then we're in good shape.
Now let's really get to the big picture and the heart of the draft debate.
Does this guy know what he's doing?
Many of us have taken to the mantra "In Pioli We Trust". But should we? Is this guy riding the coat tails of Parcells and Bellichick? Does he know how to build a great team on his own?
I still think so. The question many of you have coming out of this draft is "How could he not draft a.....(fill in position, or positions, of choice from NT, ILB, OLB, and OT)?" Now let me see if I can give you an answer to that key question. I'll use NT for my defense, but you could insert any position of your choosing. I don't think the fact that Pioli didn't draft a NT means he doesn't see it as a vital position, or even that he is content with the current NTs on our roster. I think it means he didn't see a NT on the board that he liked when we made our picks. Remember, Pioli is not going to sacrifice the long term for the short term. We learned last year that he has his eyes set on a long term consistent winner not taking a short cut to a couple more wins right now. So why draft a NT you don't believe in when there are players on the board that you think will be part of the future of this team. If he thought the NTs on the board would just be a temporary fix and he'd have to draft (or sign) another one down the road before that position was up to his standard then the pick sets us back in the long run even if it would help in the short term. If McCluster turns out to be the play maker they think he is, he can be part of the future. Arenas could be our nickel back and kick returner for a long time. Asamoah and Moeaki will have a chance to start for this team. They filled needs with players they liked and believed in for the future. It's not game over for the other positions. It just means they'll keep looking.
We found two starters on the waiver wire last year (Chambers and O'Callaghan). If we can find one or two more this year we will just keep getting better. That is what Pioli and company are trying to do. Fill this roster with better and better players at all the positions. I'm guessing that they know that they have to stop the run better. I'm guessing they know they need to blitz the QB better. I'm guessing they don't want to give up 45 sacks again this season. I don't think they're done trying to improve those areas. But when they looked at their draft board this last weekend the players they really felt good about weren't in those areas. They wouldn't compromise to fill a hole and as a result pass on a guy they believed in.
Here's what I know. The Chiefs thought McCluster would help this offense more then Golden Tate. They have Tate's college coach as the OC and they passed on him to take Run DMC (I love that nickname). That's enough for me. The Chiefs didn't think Cam Thomas could help this team. They had every chance to pick the guy up and didn't want to. I could keep going but you get the idea. They got the guys they thought would help this team the most both this year AND in the long run.
Ultimately, no one knows if this draft was a win or a failure. We won't know in training camp. We may not even know by the end of this coming season. I feel good about things, but me saying this draft was a total success is just as much of a guess as those saying already that it was a disaster. Let's let it play out on the field instead of judging things based on our amateur opinions, "expert" rankings, and just off of what positions were and weren't drafted. Until we know for sure, I plan on focusing on the positives. That's why I'm a "Kool Aid Drinker". I'm really enjoying the 2010 Chiefs Draft Kool Aid (after all it is "Berry" flavored) and I hope you will give it a taste.
PORKCHOP OUT
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Porkchop!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been saying the same thing for a few days now … let’s judge the draft, good, bad or otherwise, at the end of the year … meantime, we have UDFAs being signed and the OTAs and all summer and then pre-season to go BEFORE the season even starts
I know, we want it all to start TOMORROW but we have to wait … now, you know me, I’m the guy who never partakes of the Koolaid, the guy who questions everyone and everything, the guy with the cynical outlook … that said, I think we HAVE improved in some ways (damn, I hope so!) … I’m just realistic enough to remember that other teams (you know, Raiders, Broncos, Chargers to name a few) also got some players THEY liked as well, so some of that might offset some of OUR improvement
meanwhile … did you see what Belichick pulled off? 12 trades or something and one LARGE draft class AND has a FIRST and SECOND extra for NEXT year on top of it all … Pioli & Co did well (we think) but damn that Belichick … smokin’
oh yeah … rec’d my friend!
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I read NE has an extra 1st, 2nd and 3rd next year. The rich get richer
我相信皮欧利, 加油酋长!!!
by BeijingKCfan on Apr 26, 2010 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions
it's easy to make money once you have it
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
Not to mention next year will probably
have a rookie cap/scale…extra first/second will be nice and cheap for them.
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#29 Eric Berry
by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 26, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks ups,
good to see even the ever cynical can find a way to be positive. I still think Denver is a mess, but time will tell. As far as the Patriots go, I just hope that we are in good enough shape someday to be able to move all over the board like that.
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and the "Team O'Callaghan at RT" club
Ya know,
I’m starting to look at the NE draft and I’m thinking maybe they are doing too much trading…. don’t get me wrong, I think multiple picks are awesome but I can’t help but think they are losing their window of oppurtunity a little bit. While the rest of the competition gets better, the Pats are getting marginally better. That is an aging team, they have addressed the LB issue but the offense is getting OLD and they seem to only be getting older every year looking for that “perfect fit” “lightning in a bottle” veteran FA signing (Torry Holt). Not to mention a bad knee injury to Welker is going to HURT for a while. They cannot continue down this path, they must reload and get more youth infused or they are going to be bypassed. Tom Brady is good but he can’t overcome and make up for all thier short comings.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
Good point, I can't argue with that.
I do think NE gets the benefit of the doubt in everything they do because they have won three rings and been good for so long.
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The thing with the Pats is that they already have the 'base' of their team
they can continually add in some talent here and there, while keeping their team the same. It seems that the league has caught up with the Pats and BB has yet to come up with a new ‘wrinkle’.
I like the direction the Chiefs are headed, we are getting some ‘core’ players, while adding playmakers. We may not be the best complete team, but we ARE putting a team on the field that can compete and will compete with any team.
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#29 Eric Berry
by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 26, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I by no means think NE is "done" but....
..I do think they get closer every year. If you look back at when they were great they had alot of young defenders and it seems they keep trying to get back to that scenario but with the exception of Mayo… and maybe Merriweather, they are not getting those young “impact” player they once had. That defensive secondary, IMO, is in trouble, for what ever reason they can’t seem to get solid consistant production from thier corners and when they do they ship the dude off to another team for yet even more draft picks. I am of the opinion that Pioli was a really decent talent evaluator (that or he put together a team of good ones) and to me the knock on him having an ego is wrong, infact I think he left his ego in NE…. his name was Billechick. Since Scott left NE I think they have slowly been getting worse and KC is building a solid foundation for a winning team…. and when the oppurtunity comes, and it will come, to add an amazing impact player we will be playing for titles.
Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.
perhaps losing weis and crennel hurt just a little too...
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
by chief Stevie_k on Apr 26, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
+1000 to "let’s judge the draft, good, bad or otherwise, at the end of the year"
Meanwhile I’ll take my usual dose of Chiefs Kool Aid!
Nice!
Keep in mind the bench press reps are at 225 lbs. That’s 55 lbs. more then McCluster weighs and almost 130 lbs less then Cody weighs. McCluster did 20 reps and Cody did 22. Just think about that for a second.
Wow, I didn’t even think about that aspect! Yeah, I posted a picture of McCluster the other day in fanposts and he looks built as hell for being so small. He will last in the NFL and I’m very happy about all our picks. Rec’d
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
PorkChop great write up!
I, like many others was a bit confused about the pick of Run- DMC . However, it is actually starting to fall into place. The Chiefs will be the the team that slips into the 2010 play-offs. Don’t get me wrong, its not because of Run- DMC, but, because of other facets that Pioli did in a quick manner to get the right 53. I’m just sayin’! It will happen soon my Chiefs friends! Kcchiefdan
Great write up
Every chiefs fan needs to be patient. While some picks are arguable, let’s wait until after the season before you judge the players and the draft too harshly
Welcome to the chiefs community Eric Berry. Don't screw it up.
Pioli's one mistake, not take Terrence Cody
Oh yeah. Love Run DMC as a name
Welcome to the chiefs community Eric Berry. Don't screw it up.
Pioli's one mistake, not take Terrence Cody
by trentchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 2:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Lovin the Koolaid!
I see no reason to be a Negative Nancy about this draft when we have yet to see any of these players suit up for us yet. I can freely admit that our scouts, coaches, and GM know more about evaluating and selecting football talent than I do. So while some of “my” guys weren’t picked I’m going give “their” guys the benifit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
我相信皮欧利, 加油酋长!!!
Debbie Downer
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N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
The 1st part says
“I trust Pioli”. The 2nd part says “Lets go Chiefs”
我相信皮欧利, 加油酋长!!!
by BeijingKCfan on Apr 26, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Lol. Google Translate says, "I believe Piou Li, oil sheikhs!!"
Which, despite the hilarious roughness of the translation, seems about right. I remember reading before the Olympics that the official chant approved by the Chinese government was something like “China – Add Petrol” which seems idiomatically similar to “give it some gas” or whatever roughly equivalent phrase we use here in place of just “go!”
That's great
I will be laughing about “oil sheikhs” for awhile. You’re right about “add petrol”, while that is the direct translation the real meaning in Mandarin is"Go/Lets Go!"
我相信皮欧利, 加油酋长!!!
by BeijingKCfan on Apr 26, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I love how almost every 'expert' leading up to the draft had
Bulaga going to us at #5 and he fell all the way down to the Packers
The 5th Dimension
#29 Eric Berry
That was the best part of the draft, other than us picking Berry of course
Welcome to the chiefs community Eric Berry. Don't screw it up.
Pioli's one mistake, not taking Terrence Cody
by trentchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Clausen
I liked Buluga falling but I loved watching Kiper squirm everytime Clausen was passed on. I thought he was going to pass out when we didn’t draft him in the second lol.
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It's almost like we know our team's needs better then the experts. :-)
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Now what are you talking about?!
Our line is a mess! We gave Cassel a big contract but have no one to protect him, gave up too many sacks last year. Need to get a LT to give Cassel a shot, plus Pioli would never take a safety at 5.
Got sooooo tired of reading that on EVERY ’expert’s site…
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#29 Eric Berry
by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 26, 2010 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions
haha...we'll show them!
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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought it played out well..
Rodgers was laid out more than Cassel was, I think both teams made the best pick.
by Spiderwomn69 on Apr 26, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
PORKCHOP!! GREAT POST!
Every time I think my post rocks I read one of yours and get a little humbled. Excellent perspective. Hey, I’ve been selling Kool-Aid for you in my last two posts.
I am very excited myself and like you I do not think that Pioli and Co. are even close to being done bringing in players to help us out.
thanks again for the fantastic post rec’d and rec’s again!
Thanks Kray
I’ve really enjoyed those last two posts of yours. In fact, your first one was so good that I decided I could wait a day or two to put out mine. I thought too many positive posts all at once might be a little overkill.
I think it should be interesting this year in terms of picking up guys cut by other teams. With no salary cap the normal deadlines aren’t as big of a deal. I think you’ll see some cut right away and some that maybe hang on to them a little longer. I can’t wait to see who else we bring in and what our week one starting line ups will look like.
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Well guys, I love the Koolaid posts as you may well know I've made a lot of Koolaid comments.
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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 26, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
don't like Nails
in my koolaid but as for me, I think you nailed it. This is the exact kind of koolaid being served in the offices at Arrowhead.
I've been drinking Kool-aid on blind faith
Thanks for making me feel better about it.
Great post Porkchop!
I think someone commented on this earlier but
I think Romeo thinks that he can get better production out of the current NT and LB we already have. We added only one defensive guy in fa at NT so maybe its only a start for now. I think Romeo will get the best out of what we have going into camp right now.
great points, chop!
Remember why we didn’t want to draft a NT in the first? … bc they take years to deveop, right? So, why not get the playmakers that can make a difference now… and keep looking for a space eater?
Predraft needs filled: S, OG/OC, slot WR, KR/PR, TE, nickel CB, OLB, overall speed, leadership and home-run ability
Postdraft needs yet to be filled: NT, OT, ILB, LS
Add in UDFAs… might get an ILB and a WR there
OT: with all the interior linemen picked up… maybe they go w Brown, Ndukwe, Richardson as the OT depth… or maybe they pick someone up (Matt Light)
NT: maybe Smith and Edwards can get it done in a rotation…or maybe they pick one up?
LS: shit, I have no idea how to find a long snapper… the season is lost.
Seriously, I think KC had a good offseason, filled most of their needs, and really added excitement on the field, and great character off the field
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* KC will NOT draft a LT in the first round, and the draft WILL be heavy on defense
by stagdsp on Apr 26, 2010 9:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Good stuff, Chop
I think our iteration of Run DMC will be the one that sticks — not that Darren McWhatshisfuck.
NT and ILB can be found anywhere just like any other position. The types of players the front office are looking for obviously weren’t available when we were on the clock, or maybe those players weren’t in the entire draft for those positions, save for maybe Rolo which I don’t believe was talented enough to take at 5, for us, THIS year. We needed playmakers — not another lunch-pail, blue-collar-type guys. Not at 5.
THIS year, we got the speed, the football IQ, and the leadership in this draft that our front office is looking for, AND at positional needs. And these are positions that have been dogging us for the past handful of years, now. You all may not agree that they were big enough needs to draft the players we did, hence the reach labels, but regardless we infused a good amount of talent and leadership into our football team over the weekend.
And that leadership is going to go a long way. Having drafted all captains in their own right, we’ve got a group of guys that are going to take all the knowledge instilled from Crennel and Weis, and when in future drafts, new rookies are onboarding into our program… we’ve got high IQ guys that can retain that knowledge and pay it forward to future draft classes, providing more seamless transition into the NFL game.
I believe there’s a much greater plan for the guys we’ve drafted than just adding playmakers to this team. The front office has grounded the culture and is now building a program out of that culture that can sustain itself for years to come.
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
by ArrowSpread on Apr 26, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That pic of Pioli
is the greatest thing I’ve seen lately….new screen saver baby!
I just want to throw this out there
But for everyone thinking that we didn’t draft the NT or didn’t draft for ‘need.’ Think about it, we are all saying, including the experts, that we got 4 starters out of this draft. Now how do you start if your a draft pick, you must be better than the other people there and a NEED!!! So we did have holes at these positions and they are still major positions.
I’m still worried though about the NT position because of the lack of pass rush… I’m am tired of see 4 guys stood up at the line and getting NO pressure once so ever. But I do trust that Crennel can generate some pass rush and got several guys in these starters that can rush the passer effectively.
I think this year, Pioli hit one out of the park. Show his first draft, he didn’t have the ‘needs’ down and the people he wanted to fill those needs and therefore did make a lot of reaches.
Rank of skill of playing QB for the Chiefs
Cassel > Brodie's wife > Brodie
Yeah...
The jets don’t have a good line, i mean it’s average at best but they got a lot of pass rush because their secondary and LB’s worked together. With an upgraded secondary we will improve in the pass rush area. So many elements were giving the other team a lot of looks. We now have Berry and Areanas who was the best blitzing CB in college last year. He will line up against the slot so he will have excellent position to get a a QB kill.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
by Chiefsfan85 on Apr 26, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I drink the Kool-aid but never to the point of having blackouts.
Drinking the Kool-aid comes with being a devoted fan. If you would NEVER consider rooting for any other team than the Chiefs, you HAVE to look heavily at the positives. You would go crazy if you didn’t have hope that one day we will be great again. Looking at the positives is good for the soul and feels much better than dwelling on what you don’t have right now, like a spoiled two year old. I am not completely blind though. I read the Mothership in moderation. I figure that they have the obligation to boost the fan’s perception of the team and they put out their share of propaganda. I also read Independent writers from outside of Kansas City, to make sure I don’t get too much Kool-aid and blackout. Having a positive attitude, without being blind, makes being a fan fun; especially in hard times.
I’m a little thirsty, fill me up another glass and keep them coming!
You hit the nail on the head...
in my opinion…again…Porkchop
Haven’t been active here since the end of the season but I still come in for a drink. I think we had a damn good draft and it will show its results very soon during this coming season and many more to come.
Peace and cheers
"There are few secrets in football. So execute." ~Coach Stram
"I think it's the fans. The place is crazy. It's a good crazy, if you're Kansas City." ~Coach Schottenheimer
Good Post as usual Porkchop. Rec'd.
Scott Pioli's star will shine in 2010.
Win or lose, the Chiefs scare the bejesus of all opponents in 2010
me.....want....koooooolaaaaaaaaiiiiiiidddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nice post, chop.
if I can sprinkle in just a tad bit more sugar, you forgot to mention that Arenas is considered the best blitzing cornerback in the draft!
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
by chief Stevie_k on Apr 26, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions
Very nice Porkchop.
Lewis was the only pick when I just kind of went huh. Run DMC surprised but a pick I liked. Not taking an ILB just tells me that Romeo sees something in DJ, and thinks he will come around.
I am estatic with Lewis, and I must remember why that is, he reminds me of an ex nfl safety, I just am forgetting who
if he has a slower 40 time, and is a fumble forcing machine, one would think hes your rodney harrison of the defense.
Team Pioli/Haley
AWESOME; JUST AWESOME!
Porkchop, when you wrote…
“Here’s what I know. The Chiefs thought McCluster would help this offense more then Golden Tate. They have Tate’s college coach as the OC and they passed on him to take Run DMC (I love that nickname). That’s enough for me.
that’s exactly what I was thinking! I mean, I thought for sure we were getting Tate at 2a, what with the Weiss connection at all.
I just knew we needed a playmaking slot WR early and ‘Rin DMC’ seems to fit that bill!
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...you had me at Berry!
by chiefsfan62 on Apr 26, 2010 10:54 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
totally agreed...I jumped off the tate to kc bandwagon when we passed...simply because weis would know...
and really…thats how it is, we all fall for a few players for realy NO reason other than seeing their names and our needs..(similar to espn etc)…but the second they go elsewhere, or the second we draft someone else…it clicks right off…and instantly its time to fall for OUR draft pick….
Mccluster and Arenas…at first had me scratching my head, now has me wanting the season to start tomorrow to watch 2 of the best speed guys and returners in the NFL.
Team Pioli/Haley
*Run DMC
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...you had me at Berry!
by chiefsfan62 on Apr 26, 2010 11:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
To add to Moeaki...
People have to realize these were/are student athletes they arent professional athletes and for the large part they dont conduct themselves as pro athletes or have the resources a pro athlete has. That being said when you become a pro and deal with a pro strength and conditioning coach on a daily basis it will more often then not take care of alot of the tickytack injuries that guys like this have. Of course he’s still going to have to put in the work to help the process but its an important point.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Last year
I anyone actually recalls how close the games were at times. The Chiefs could have won a lot more games. The Chiefs added DIFFERENCE makers in this draft.
Berry – defensive difference maker.
McCluster – speedy deep threat, potential possession receiver, blazing freaking speed.
Arenas – “best returner in the draft”
Asamoah – Adds youthful depth to an aging O-line. Excellent.
Moeaki – Best blend of blocking and pass catching at this position. WIN
Sheffield – a project pass rusher with good size.
The key here folks is that Chiefs have added players that can make a difference in close games. The Chiefs did the right thing. Throw Thomas Jones into the mix as well as a more seasoned and confident coaching staff and the Chiefs are going to be a much better football team in 2010.
Changing sports talk one ignorant soul at a time
Call me crazy,
but i think we might have the best secondary in the league!
Ok maybe not in their first year together but it’s coming.
Our secondary improved a lot
but the Jets is pretty outrageous.
我相信皮欧利, 加油酋长!!!
by BeijingKCfan on Apr 26, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
My biggest complaint from the draft is about Berry
I just dont think #29 looks good on him…but if that’s the worst thing I can find, then that’s an indication of good things to come.
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
If You Didn't Know...
he picked that number as a tribute to his college teammate. I believe there was a post on this somewhere, but just don’t have the time to dig it up, sorry…
Things to get the Chiefs back on the winning side of football:
1. Haley resign as offensive coordinator or do the following;
a. Feed JC more
b. Take the cuffs off of Cassel and let him air it out
2. Fire Clancy "Calls" Playslikeass
by kcchiefsfan72 on Apr 29, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been drinking Chiefs Kool-Aid my whole entire life....
I just didn’t know it until now.
And sometimes, I’m a dose low and get silly when I forget to drink it.
"Always go to other people's funerals otherwise they won't go to yours." ~Yogi Berra~
In Pioli we trust
I don’t write on here much, and you guys are not familiar with me probably at all. But I think for me what stands out is the fact that Pioli is doing what this team hasn’t done for a long time! Bring in playmakers on both sides of the ball, and build a team that is balanced, and can kick ass all the way to a Super Bowl Victory. We have had great defense, we have had great offense, but we haven’t had both since 1969!!!!! We have come close on some occasions, and I am not saying we haven’t had some good teams over the years like when Montana played for us, but Pioli is going to build a team that can win more than one Super Bowl!! I believe this whole heartedly… I was shocked like alot of you at some of the guys we picked up, like McCluster I thought what the hell do we need another running back for!!! But when I looked at what this guy does on the field, his versitility I thought WOW!. And all these guys are captains, and have great characters. All I can say Chiefs fans is “WAIT TILL WE BRING THE TROPHY HOME” Because it is coming. I wish Lamar could see what his son is doing with his team. He would be very proud….
Pioli has not proven himself yet.
Look at the talent they brought in or drafted last year and the production.
Free Agent Additions:
QB Matt Gutierrez, WR Bobby Engram, WR Amani Toomer, WR Ashley Lelie, TE Sean Ryan, G Mike Goff, G Andy Alleman, C Eric Ghiaciuc, ILB Zach Thomas, ILB Corey Mays, ILB Monty Beisel, CB Travis Daniels, FS Mike Brown.
Of the 13 free agents only 3 saw any time on the field. The others were released.
Last year’s Draft Picks:
DE Tyson Jackson, DE/DT Alex Magee, CB Donald Washington, OT Colin Brown, WR Quinten Lawrence, RB Javarris Williams, TE Jake O’Connell, K Ryan Succop.
Only Jackson and Succop started and Jackson looked only average.
I was dissappointed with the 2, 3 and 4th round picks this year. I had them taking Hughes or Kindle with 2a, ILB Spikes with 2b, a safety N. Allen or Burnett with the 3rd, and TE Pitta or Hernandez with 4 pick. I also had them taking Okung or Williams with first pick since you could get a good safety in the third round. In the 5th round they should have looked at DT Cam Thomas, gaurd Petrus, and center Tennant.
I’m just saying lets wait and see how the free agents and drafted players look before we crown this team a playoff contender.
So getting 4 new starters via FA isn't good enough for you.
Brown, Mays, Chambers, and O’Callghan were all starters last year. Now maybe they weren’t good enough, but it was still better then the other guys on our roster. Now this year he has Lilja, Weigmann, Jones, Urban, and Smith that could all contribute. It’s too early to tell on the draft classes. I’m not saying he’s “proven” himself, but I don’t think you can critisize that he hasn’t brought in many solid FAs.
Official Member of the "We Drafted Eric Berry!" Fanclub
and the "Team O'Callaghan at RT" club
Free agents
Brown was awful last year, Mays was OK, Chambers and O’Callghan were mid season pickups. Look at all the older vets the Chiefs brought in last year that did not make the team. I hope Lilja, Weigmann, Jones, Urban, and Smith can contribute but most are old and the only certainty is Jones. He may only get 10 carries a game, at most. Lilja was a good pickup if he stays healthy.
by Mustang fever on Apr 29, 2010 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions
What up Chops?
Been lurking for a while now. Had to join to get some of that Berry Koolaid.
I still trust Pioli, but in the back of my mind I still wonder how much influence he had on draft day with the Pats. Not that I want us to trade all over the place, but this is 2 years in a row with minimal movement in the draft. Meanwhile, it’s business as usual in New England – trades galore.
About time you got up and running on here.
I think the difference with the trading is NE is usually looking for guys to plug holes where as we are looking for guys to build around. NE can trade back and get multiple picks to use for role players and hole fillers. We need the elite talent still.
On a personal note, we need to figure out a way to go to that opening Monday night game.
Official Member of the "We Drafted Eric Berry!" Fanclub
and the "Team O'Callaghan at RT" club
RECtum...
Nice one, Porkchop. This actually put the draft into perspective for me. I was one of the ones yelling and screaming at the tube, but I’ve since calmed down. Reading posts like this reassures me that the brass actually know what they’re doing. How that translates on the field remains to be seen, but the excitement is getting the better of me. I need the season to rectify the draft.
Things to get the Chiefs back on the winning side of football:
1. Haley resign as offensive coordinator or do the following;
a. Feed JC more
b. Take the cuffs off of Cassel and let him air it out
2. Fire Clancy "Calls" Playslikeass
awesome post porkchop
i agree with everything you said. as much as im excited for to see berry mccluster and arenas in action…im especially excited for tony moeaki to be quite honest. a big phsyical pass blocking/pass catching TE can do wonders for an offense.
Pork Chop,
Why are you using a picture of Jamarcuss Russel as your avatar? j/k lol. I refer to JR as Kung Fu Panda all the time. I picture him making unbelieveable passes while doing the splits across the back of two sawhorses and eating dumplings(or monkees cookies). Awesome!
Wait a minute....
You picture Jamarcuss Russel making unbelievable passes? I think you might need to talk to a shrink about these crazy visions you’re having. Kidding aside, my 4 year old son LOVES that movie, and honestly as cartoons go its one of my favorites too.
"There is no charge for awesomeness" - Kung Fu Panda
"Watch it Panda! If Pioli hear's that he might try and make me play for free." - Eric Berry
MMMM...Berry flavor!
We drink the kool aid and we love our recently terrible team….That’s why we are the best fans in the National Football League! Don’t drink your kool aid and move to Philly or some other city that doesn’t respect their team.
If 2.7 didn't cause you to quit this team
Nothing will. Perspective.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on May 9, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions
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