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Chiefs Taking Aim At The Chargers

I love seeing a team built to compete within the division. For example, look at the Giants. They used a first round pick on another pass-rusher. Why? Because they'll face Tony Romo and the Cowboys, Kevin Kolb and the Eagles and Donovan McNabb and the Redskins six total times a year. They need to get to those quarterbacks.

The Chiefs are keeping a watchful eye on their division. In particular, it appears they're building a team to compete with the Chargers.

Chiefs GM Scott Pioli and head coach Todd Haley were talking about the selection of Javier Arenas, who will essentially be the third corner. He was the 50th overall selection in the draft which, on the surface, seems a little high for a part-time starter.

"The reality is, we studied this and most third corners on a team are now playing an upward 55 percent of the snaps a year," the Chiefs GM said.

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"You look at our division and the number of times the other three teams throw the football, that takes on a little bit more because the first thing you want to do is win games in your division.

Time out. The Broncos and Raiders, at least statistically, are not threats in the passing game. They are average or below-average. What Pioli could have said instead was, 'Philip Rivers and the Chargers are the future of the division and we are going to build a team to stop them.'

They are the threat in the division right now. The Broncos aren't far behind (they're ahead of the Chiefs) but if you're drafting to beat someone, beat the top dog.

I'm not sure about you all but I find this sort of stuff -- this strategy and forward-thinking -- absolutely fascinating. The Chiefs understand all you have to do is win your division to get into the playoffs. And the most successful teams are like the Chargers -- good passing teams. So it makes sense that they're beefing up a secondary to stop them.

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Good insight Joel

Makes drafting arenas more reasonable and much easier to understand

by KU2010 on Apr 25, 2010 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

yup

beef up the secondary for good coverage , let loose the dline and linebackers on blitzes to smash rivers,orton, and campbell !

by rickrock58 on Apr 25, 2010 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree 100%

I’ve always advocated building a team to win the division. Teams like the Colts and Steelers have done this for years.

My only problem is the pass rush. We can have Deion Sanders, Rod Woodson, Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed as our secondary, but if Rivers can sit in the pocked for 10 seconds, someone will get free. I remember facing Rivers last year when the analysts made a comment about Rivers having enough time to do his taxes.

Also, Chiefs didn’t do much to address the rush defense and there really isn’t any reason to pass against them if they can just run for over 300 yards a game. I don’t want to sound overly pessimistic but this defense has a long ways away before they can stop the San Diego offense.

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by craig in calgary on Apr 25, 2010 5:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I need to change my Sig

or not

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

craig

i get your point and thats why with a good secondary we can get some coverage sacks mixed in with massives run and pass blitzes to get to the quarterback if our normal rush aint doing it , with a good secondary those options are open to you and with that rivers will be holidng onto the ball a long time with noone to throw to and by then the blitz would have put him on the floor as for the run. if you cant build from the dline out might as well try from the secondary in :)

by rickrock58 on Apr 25, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, Yes

The Chiefs had to look at the best available in several areas. At #5, they could’ve gone either way. At #50, Arenas was better at Corner than anyone at DL. Maybe better than the LB’s available as well. The Chiefs did pick up some LB and DL help in FA & UFA signings – WR as well.

by David Winton on Apr 25, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is dead on

They should be looking for a pass rush, not coverage. The Pittsburgh Steelers beat the bolts with guys off the street in their secondary because Rivers didn’t have time to throw. Rivers reads the blitz well, you have to get to him with a standard package.

Just my opinion…

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Apr 25, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

We will see on Monday Night

How did the Chargers do vs the Patriots on the early oughts?

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see 5 Chiefs wins and one loss

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

1-1 vs the Patriots

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 ways to beat rivers

one is a pass rush which covers your secondary the steelers were ate alive by the cardinals in the superbowl cause they could not get to warner and there secondary was exposed. so if you dont have the pass rush you have great coverage which made the jets number 1 on d this year even with a medicore pass rush . so cover all of rivers receivers and zone blitz him confuse him which is what a 3-4 is suppose to be and you’ll find your INT and sack opporunties there .

by rickrock58 on Apr 25, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coverage only lasts so long

You have to put heat on the QB, or even the best secondary will give up yards.

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Apr 25, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Considering Hali was one of the more elite* in the league as far as pass rush productivity...

As in, while he may not have posted the sacks to back it up, he generated plenty of pressure that would suggest that one more second of coverage would make a world of difference.

*profootballfocus.com, Pass Rush Productivity

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by ArrowSpread on Apr 25, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yessssssssssssssssss....someone else thinks like me!!!!

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Early?

The Chargers got thumped by everyone. 2004 was the first breakout year, but it really wasn’t until 2007 that they improved their passing attack dramatically.

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Apr 25, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

it wasnt always that way 65% of the time was that our secondary didnt give enough time

for the d line or lbs to get to the qb’s the qbs where findibg there targets open very quickly by adding secondary solid players through the draft we will be giving more time to our d line and lbs to get there.

by chiefslegend58 on Apr 25, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes I agree

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many times

was Tamba like 1/2 a second from a sack last year.

by DTfranchise on Apr 25, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many times was Hali held?

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clady

Every time he got close enough to grab lol

by DTfranchise on Apr 25, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Good luck AFC West cause the Chiefs are going to be like Hemmoriods on your Ass all year long

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll be there til the end.

Annyoing as hell because we’re viewed as weak, but we aren’t letting you go. We’re right behind ya till the clock hits 0:00 of th 4th

Welcome Eric Berry to the Kansas City Chiefs! The newest playmaker and next big time safety in the league!

A bunch of super early 2010 predictions:
►Record of 8-8
►Eric Berry wins Rookie of the Year Award.
►Cassel throws for over 3,200 yards (2,900 last year?)
►Jamaal has a huge year and solidifies himself
►McCluster becomes a prominent figure in the offense
▲From a couple carries a game, slot receiver and maybe a little Wildcat.
►Our pass defense/secondary is recognized as one of the best.
►Brandon Flowers is recognized as one of the top corner's in the NFL.

by KC Nate on Apr 25, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I lost track

I remember several games I’d see the tackle with his arm up around Hali’s neck and wonder how it never got called.

by bh13 on Apr 25, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

By the Chargers even....

I clearly remember seeing Tamba being held numerous times in both Charger games as well as the Denver games.

I still don’t understand how it is we never get those calls.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 25, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

and with berry and now arenas in coverage you can do alot of blitzes crennel wanted to do in cleveland but never had the secondary to do it or did and gave up massive yards.

by rickrock58 on Apr 25, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

We keep forgetting about a new defensive scheme

For example, look at nebraska cornhuskers before and after the pelinis went there to coach. Before, opposing qbs have been quoted saying playing against them was lile playing against a high school scheme.
After the pelinis came, 2 years now, we all know that defense is tops in the nation. Its all about sceme. You could have sanders, reid, polomolu and whoever else you said plus ray lewis aj hawk kevin williams jared allen julius peppers and such and if you call all the wron plays you will still get burned.
I am very excited that our ppayers have someone who knows how to put together a top notch scheme.

by gochiefsgo on Apr 25, 2010 8:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We keep forgetting about the new scheme

For example, look at nebraska cornhuskers before and after the pelinis went there to coach. Before, opposing qbs have been quoted saying playing against them was lile playing against a high school scheme.
After the pelinis came, 2 years now, we all know that defense is tops in the nation. Its all about sceme. You could have sanders, reid, polomolu and whoever else you said plus ray lewis aj hawk kevin williams jared allen julius peppers and such and if you call all the wron plays you will still get burned.
I am very excited that our ppayers have someone who knows how to put together a top notch scheme.

by gochiefsgo on Apr 25, 2010 8:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry everyone i just cant get this post to go where it needs to

It is a response to craigs post about it doesnt matter if you have ed reid polomulu yada yada

by gochiefsgo on Apr 25, 2010 8:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I see the point and agree Scheme makes the players good

Pendergast did not make all the players good.
I hope Crennel’s plan does, No reason to think he won’t. I wanted better D players for Crennel to work with is all :)

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh Damn

Where did Rivers Smirk go

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well he wont look like that in 2010

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does seem like

he’s in your head a bit…

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Apr 25, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Along those same lines...

You moonlighting as a Chiefs fan or what?

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by ArrowSpread on Apr 25, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No he is definitely a Chargers fan

Yet not a troll in any conotation of the term :)
Thanks for coming over and reuniting the Chiefs Base Brian.

Fractured is the best I can summ up what happened this weekend.

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just thought

it was an interesting argument. I wasn’t really intending to get you all riled up. The Chargers have spent four first rounders this decade on dbs; and have generally had a bad secondary. 2006 they had a much better defense, and it was coupled with a great pass rush. I just came over to read what you all thought on the draft, I’ll move along…

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Apr 25, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn NO

Stay awhile.
Seems that we need someone to rally against.

In A totally futile gesture, I might add.
Now I could do that and Bolts would kick me out.
I see that I have the perfect Pic to be an Ass on the Broncos site?
And the Raiders would eat me at dawn. Screw the raiders!
So I might be an Ass without a Nation :(

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You jabbed, I jabbed.

That’s all it is. No worries :-)

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by ArrowSpread on Apr 25, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to ArrowheadPride.

I haven’t seen you post, yet you seem to be genuine to your team. The J-man comes on here on occasion giving his opinion(with a bit of rivalry banter of course)…

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Apr 25, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might have been awhile Yet Hali will

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

We really only need to beat you once

In the Season Opener :)

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems I might need to stay away from Bolts website.

The have become delusional like the Raiders on the this draft.
Maybe We have too to some degree.

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

You make a

fair point. We won’t know anything until the season begins

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by Aero on Apr 25, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

we'll really know when the season ENDS

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by upamtn on Apr 26, 2010 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Noo!

Jared Allen memories and torture to what he’s going to do to us in 2011

Welcome Eric Berry to the Kansas City Chiefs! The newest playmaker and next big time safety in the league!

A bunch of super early 2010 predictions:
►Record of 8-8
►Eric Berry wins Rookie of the Year Award.
►Cassel throws for over 3,200 yards (2,900 last year?)
►Jamaal has a huge year and solidifies himself
►McCluster becomes a prominent figure in the offense
▲From a couple carries a game, slot receiver and maybe a little Wildcat.
►Our pass defense/secondary is recognized as one of the best.
►Brandon Flowers is recognized as one of the top corner's in the NFL.

by KC Nate on Apr 25, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

we got no idea how it will play out but then again neither does any other team too :)

by rickrock58 on Apr 25, 2010 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Berry's first career interception

occurs on MNF against Rivers. Nice.

New body. Same soul.

by kabrink on Apr 25, 2010 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm watching for it

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arenas...

Is my least favorite of our draft picks.

And with that said, I’m 85% certain that he will be a fan favorite, and solid contributor.

My issue is that at #50 there were so many other quality players at positions that were bigger holes.

Was the pick designed to beat the Chargers…I don’t know, I guess. But you play 16 games the two vs. the Chargers are important, but I’d be fine with winning 14 and losing the two to the Chargers (yes, I know thats overly simplifying things).

Still, overall I’m happy with the draft, and I think if you’re being objective, it’s hard not to be.

by kcsno56 on Apr 25, 2010 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Javy

Will definitely be a fan favorite, because he plays with intensity and is never satisfied with his performance.

Add to that he will making big plays in the return game and on defense and it’s a foregone conclusion.

by alakan81 on Apr 25, 2010 7:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm guessing we got 5 of those in this draft

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fan favs?

I’d guess 3 or 4…pretty solid.

by kcsno56 on Apr 25, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a friend that follows the SEC like the plague

and I told him we got Arenas and he could NOT stop talking about how amazing of a pick that was, how freaking good he is, etc. etc. I’m excited, and what Pioli says about third corners in this post really puts it into perspective.

Our secondary is going to be absolutely beast.

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by bwelch37 on Apr 25, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arenas

was one of my favorite prospects. My only questions from this draft are:
1) What happens to Donald Washington, Brandon Carr and Maurice Leggett? Does one of them move to free safety?
2) Why did we trade up about 10 spots for the Iowa TE? I dont fault drafting a TE or even drafting him, but trading up just a few spots for him seemed unneccessary to me.

The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones

by kc_radrh8r on Apr 25, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

what happens

Donald Washington can play safety (versatile that way)
Carr will stay at CB
Leggett will remain key depth guy

Iowa TE: Maybe…but Pioli or Haley (can’t remember) said that he was one guy that they absolutely wanted and would have felt like they’d failed in the draft if they didn’t get him (in so many words) he must be pretty sensational. They said that his injuries weren’t “major” injuries so it didn’t effect their opinion of him. The fastest TE in the draft. Very soft hands and the best blocking TE in the draft.

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

gifted got that info pretty much correct.

The reason that they moved up like that to grab him was because the Saints were getting ready to snag him in the next one or two picks. That forced KC to move up and get him in that spot.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

by oldchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. I'm the kind of guy that thinks about this sort of stuff a lot.
I’m not sure about you all but I find this sort of stuff — this strategy and forward-thinking — absolutely fascinating. The Chiefs understand all you have to do is win your division to get into the playoffs.

You’ve got to get under the surface of this draft in order to understand that it’s as great a draft as it is. Joel, you’ve hit the nail on the head.

When Pioli fired the remaining Herm scouts and hired his own, I’m sure he called them into the conference room and presented a set of questions (He and Haley had already started on a game plan):

Q1: What is our goal for this franchise?
A1: To win the Super Bowl and establish a football dynasty for the next decade.

Q2: What does it take to get to the Super Bowl…let alone win it?
A2: We must win the division.

Q3: What must we do to win the division?
A3: We must defeat the teams in our division!

Q4: How do we defeat the teams in our division?
A4: Defeat the best team in the division twice a year.

Q5: How do we defeat the best team in our division twice a year?
A5: Smother the Charger’s passing game!

Q6: How do we Smother the Charger’s passing game?
A6: Draft and coach up the best secondary in the NFL.

Well Duh! It seems so simple doesn’t it? Problem with many of us on AP is we’re over-thinking or perhaps even way under-thinking this thing.

I was pretty excited last year when I saw who we drafted because of the core wisdom of it. “Build a team from the inside out.” You don’t draft the same positions every year. You draft one area…get it right, and let it develop…get the best coaches in the game and develop it further. Next draft, focus on another major area of need. Coach it up and let it develop….Meanwhile, fill other gaps with FA’s. Booyah! You’ve got a winner!

Last year we focused on special teams offensive total makeover and defensive line. This year we finish special teams and focus on secondary. The three biggest areas of need complete in less than 2 years.

From here on out, it’s a player here or there who will need to be replaced, but this draft was huge in terms of getting some of those uniquely talented guys you need offensively and defensively to gain some serious ground toward defeating the AFC West competition and ultimately the Super Bowl runner up.

Reality check…I’m really trying not to over estimate what is possible here this year. However, I just agree with Joel and others, that this draft wasn’t a draft to rebuild a team. This draft was intended to make the Chiefs a winner. Don’t get me wrong…I agree that we still need to upgrade individuals here or there, but the building blocks and core is there right now. BELIEVE!

Great post Joel…keep ’em coming!

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

What!

Q1: What is our goal for this franchise?
A1: To win the Super Bowl and establish a football dynasty for the next decade.

ONLY a decade? Come on now, we’re definitely building for the next how many ever years the Chiefs exist! ;)

Welcome Eric Berry to the Kansas City Chiefs! The newest playmaker and next big time safety in the league!

A bunch of super early 2010 predictions:
►Record of 8-8
►Eric Berry wins Rookie of the Year Award.
►Cassel throws for over 3,200 yards (2,900 last year?)
►Jamaal has a huge year and solidifies himself
►McCluster becomes a prominent figure in the offense
▲From a couple carries a game, slot receiver and maybe a little Wildcat.
►Our pass defense/secondary is recognized as one of the best.
►Brandon Flowers is recognized as one of the top corner's in the NFL.

by KC Nate on Apr 25, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL...well, ya gotta start somewhere!

geez

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose.

Better than starting at 0-16

Welcome Eric Berry to the Kansas City Chiefs! The newest playmaker and next big time safety in the league!

A bunch of super early 2010 predictions:
►Record of 8-8
►Eric Berry wins Rookie of the Year Award.
►Cassel throws for over 3,200 yards (2,900 last year?)
►Jamaal has a huge year and solidifies himself
►McCluster becomes a prominent figure in the offense
▲From a couple carries a game, slot receiver and maybe a little Wildcat.
►Our pass defense/secondary is recognized as one of the best.
►Brandon Flowers is recognized as one of the top corner's in the NFL.

by KC Nate on Apr 25, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let him go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q47bpOCTcaY

Someone post the Video of the link my AP knowledge is taxed tonight :)

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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

The problem i have with the idea of drafting Arenas to help beat the Chargers

is that we went for a short corner to to cover HUGE charger wideouts. i understand that his special teams ability among other things are positives, but if beating the chargers is the biggest concern, wouldnt it make more sense to draft a corner that can matchup with them physically?

by let'er rip skip on Apr 25, 2010 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Their big guys line up on the outside

Arenas will be playing the slot WR.

Again, I thought other needs were more important, and I didn’t love the pick, but as a nickle CB, he’ll be solid.

He’s a very good tackler as well, and that’s even more important from the slot.

by kcsno56 on Apr 25, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arenas won't be covering wideouts much.

He will be covering the slots and TE’s in the middle as an inside corner. Carr and Flowers will still be on the outside.

Corners are generally short anyway

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

their TE is freakin Gates

and maybe im wrong but i thought he was only 5’7 or 5’8, shorter than average

by let'er rip skip on Apr 25, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

5'9" but who cares, if the kid can jump?

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

He plays alot bigger than 5'9"

Because he’s incredibly strong and physical for his size, has great instincts and technique, and tremendous short-area quickness.

by alakan81 on Apr 25, 2010 10:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

exactly

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's what I said...WR #3 is generally referred to as slot

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I said as much above

Thought you were saying he’d mostly be covering TE’s.

by kcsno56 on Apr 25, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

slots and TE's

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess he'll just have to blitz the dog shit out of Rivers

:-(

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by ArrowSpread on Apr 25, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehe...he can do that very well too

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by giftedchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arenas is a excellent blitzer.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

by oldchiefsfan on Apr 25, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

the league is going all harvin and d.jackson on us...raiders have mcfadden, higgins, murphy, heward bey who are all speed guys

the charger wideouts are fast as well as big.

denver has eddie royal, who is another small fast guy.

Team Pioli/Haley

by SDChief on Apr 26, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

speaking of slot…… MCCLUSTER!!!!!

by Chiefs_FANATIC on Apr 25, 2010 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

They'll use him a lot like Harvin.

He can do it all.

"The best way to convince a fool that he is wrong is to let him have his way" Josh Billings
Kansas City Chiefs - 2020 Team of the Decade

by skunk420 on Apr 26, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Raider fans are arguing about the Chiefs, go look at their board haha.

by rdubz on Apr 25, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

NFC is even more pass happy than the AFC

But to emerge from either secondary play is the key

Colts Patriots and Chargers have the best % of making playoffs the past 6 years, due mainly to their QBs and pass game

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Apr 25, 2010 11:23 PM CDT reply actions  

let's remember the Raiders had a decent draft, and picked up Jason Campbell ...

.. so we can’t count on JaMarcus BlingThing Russell to hand us a game …

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Apr 26, 2010 12:54 AM CDT reply actions  

GO DEEP!

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 26, 2010 5:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

why not beef up front 7 to...

stop Rivers thats the shortest distance between the 2 points and to handle the other teams as well.

by J ray on Apr 26, 2010 3:43 AM CDT reply actions  

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