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2010 NFL Draft: Chiefs GM Scott Pioli's Eric Berry Smokescreen

A few weeks ago, there was a semi-bombshell dropped on us in Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback column. King discussed the NFL draft, and specifically safeties in the NFL draft, with Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff.

Atlanta GM Thomas Dimitroff calls the safety-at-the-top-of-the-draft debate a conundrum. "It's been on my mind a lot lately," he said, "and I realize I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth here, but Berry's a really good player. It's been on my mind quite a bit recently. You want the good hitter with hip movement, able to turn and run, but then reality sets in. I was talking to [Kansas City GM] Scott Pioli about Berry, and I said, 'Scott, this guy's your pick.' And he said, 'You know how I feel about safeties that early.' And I understand.''

That quote from Pioli (via Dimitroff) made some of us (read: me) think Berry was out of the question at that point.

However, judging by Todd Haley's remarks last night, the Chiefs had likely already decided on Berry by that point.

Was it just a smokescreen or is/was Pioli genuinely concerned about taking a safety that high?

I guess we'll never know.

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Hindsight being 20/20....

’You know how I feel about safeties that early"

You could argue now he meant I love them that early.

by blkmercman on Apr 23, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

i still think this is the game changer we have NEVER had in our secondary

we had good solid safeties in years past,but this is dynamic!

Tough times never last, but tough people do.

by MadMartigan816 on Apr 23, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Never had a game-changer?

How about D Carter, J Hasty, K Ross, D Cherry, A Lewis, current DB coach Emmitt Thomas and a guy who should be in the HOF, Johnny Robinson. I’m excited about Berry too, but don’t sell KC short. He joins a long line of very good defensive backs.

by whoadog on Apr 23, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Herm Edwards

In a way…kinda….was a defensive back when he played. Definately a game changer….

Big Gulps EH????? All right.....Welp....See Ya Later!

by XtaC69Chief on Apr 23, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

And ...

… he can definitely be credited with changing the outcomes of a few games while he was here.

by JacinB on Apr 23, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah,

for the worse

New body. Same soul.

by kabrink on Apr 23, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you.

mad martigan,go somewhere and slap yourself Eric Berry has a long way to go to be mentioned in the same post as that list.

by tenacious rdc on Apr 23, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I took it as a smoke screen from moment one

A guy like Dmitroff is way to smart to be running his mouth about other people’s drafts. Especially a good friend/ former colleague. It was a staged smoke screen, I would almost guarantee it.

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by Ben Martin on Apr 23, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Just like all the rediculous Bulaga talk

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by Ben Martin on Apr 23, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right Bulaga slipped and fell.

Berry is gonna be Epic!

I want K.C. Wolfs' job!

by Jonezin4KC on Apr 23, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

same here. even if we didn't pick Berry, I figured it was at least a distraction. Thomas Dimitroff is too much smarter than that.

My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:

1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.

by jbj8609 on Apr 23, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I 100% agree, I can't believe Peter King didn't even consider that.

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and the "Team O'Callaghan at RT" club

by KCporkchop on Apr 23, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't King involved in talk last year with Chiefs and picks?

I think King was part of the whole thing. He plays nice with Pioli and then Pioli will give him a scoop when he needs it. Isn’t King from the NE where he could of had a friendship with Pioli also.

by Helmets on Apr 23, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

i take it as

joel putting to much into that conversation.

sorry joel, i think it’s a little more off the cuff than you think.

by tenacious rdc on Apr 23, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Berry!!

I may have to purchase this guys jersey! # 29! Great pick IMO

by Frank Alvarado on Apr 23, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Seems like he Pioli already knew he wanted.

But part of his process was tricking all of the idiots just like me.

Straw-Berry Pie, Blue-Berry Pie, Poison-Berry Pie, Cherry-Berry Pie, Super-Berry Pie. I love them all!

by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 23, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

May?

Let’s try “IS!”

Straw-Berry Pie, Blue-Berry Pie, Poison-Berry Pie, Cherry-Berry Pie, Super-Berry Pie. I love them all!

by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 23, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

With Reed, Polumalu, Sharper, Merriwether, etc. It will be a tough position to earn respect in. I believe Berry can do it but let’s not put that on him yet

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, wouldn't want to over-hype him guys.

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I will try to refrain.

Chill.

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay don't chill, your welcome.

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chili?

Who has Chili? I like Chili!!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chili coney dog..... oh yeah.

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mmm

How about a corndog….ok bare with me….you take a footlong dog and put the stick in it. Ok before you batter it you wrap it with a sheet of chili somehow….lol…then you batter it and deepfry that sucker….

Now you have a corndog chili dog all in one….with the chili underneath the crust. Mmmm!!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 12:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You figure out how to make one of those ...

And you’ll make a bazillion dollars in the state fair concession stand business.

by JacinB on Apr 23, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I would probably die from a stroke before I ever sold one from eating so many

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 12:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We'll fill your casket with chili, dip it in batter, deep fry it then lower you into the ground.

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha!!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 12:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

State fair my ass!

I’ll keep you comfortably employed by myself.

by 63gump on Apr 23, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

just inject the chili

after the corndog is done cooking. it will be a messy experiment, but a fun one.

by bansky on Apr 23, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

ready to make a million?

Take said hot dog on a stick, make a chili mold in which to stick the dog in, then freeze it just enough to make the chili thick and stick to the dog. Lastly dip in corndog batter and deep fat fry.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Apr 23, 2010 3:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It defies logic.... let do it!

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Maybe I can find out how to make cheese slices in the wrapper and just do the same thing to chili….haha

chili slices!

Man oh man I’m gonna do all sorts of stuff with chili!!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lol

I’m restraining myself from any reasoning thought until the end of the draft. Until than, the Chiefs are drafting all HOFers. Will go back to reason after the draft.

Straw-Berry Pie, Blue-Berry Pie, Poison-Berry Pie, Cherry-Berry Pie, Super-Berry Pie. I love them all!

by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 23, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know Eric Berry is gonna be great

But after seeing Bulaga last night….the Packers got them a giant man! This dude looks the part! His head could block someone by itself!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:39 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe Dimitroff helped out Pioli out in exchange for Pioli not revealing that Dimitroff and Crispin Glover are the same person

“wah-waaahhhhhh”

My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:

1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.

by jbj8609 on Apr 23, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Hmm

He kinda looks like the guy from the country duo Joey and Rory…but without the red hair

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"but without the red hair"

Hair dye is a wonderful invention.

Straw-Berry Pie, Blue-Berry Pie, Poison-Berry Pie, Cherry-Berry Pie, Super-Berry Pie. I love them all!

by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 23, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know hair dye.

It is when your hair dyes.
http://www.derekhaines.ch/DH%20Blog/files/gravestone.jpg

And you find a It and put It on your head in order to get new hair.
http://www.janniefunster.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/cousin-itt.jpg

Straw-Berry Pie, Blue-Berry Pie, Poison-Berry Pie, Cherry-Berry Pie, Super-Berry Pie. I love them all!

by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 23, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Dez Bryant

But is he really the answer for Dallas to get over the hump? I call this an Al Davis move. Sell tickets to his new stadium is all that was about.

The Cowboys generally have a really good offense. I don’t think a WR was a pressing need.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:45 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

With Jerry Jones calling out Parcells

It makes you question his motives.

If he is drafting guys to fill seats they will never win again. They have a nice base on their team….but Dez Bryant?

How about an OT or Safety….Nate Allen was available as well as Roger Saffold, Charles Brown, Bruce Campbell

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Funny you should say that.

They gave him Irwin’s number.

You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?

by Mully on Apr 23, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait.

Thought the Cowboys’ retired Michael Irwin’s number?

Straw-Berry Pie, Blue-Berry Pie, Poison-Berry Pie, Cherry-Berry Pie, Super-Berry Pie. I love them all!

by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 23, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno about that.

I’m getting my information from here.

You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?

by Mully on Apr 23, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they try to unload Roy Williams by mid season.

Dez is the real deal and will be the reciever that Roy never was.

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

You may be right

That would make sense

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Lions.

Talk about fleecing Jerry! All those picks and they get him back! I would laugh till I cried.

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

The lions are blessed with a negotiating tool

It’s name is Gunther. He will cuss your ass out until you make his deal.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

No wonder why Martin Mayhew is a great neogator.

He just holds a gun to their head to get what wants? Hmm. I should try that. McDonald’s here I come, and I better get my cheeseburger without cheese this time.

Straw-Berry Pie, Blue-Berry Pie, Poison-Berry Pie, Cherry-Berry Pie, Super-Berry Pie. I love them all!

by ChiefsFan90s on Apr 23, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

All the guys from last night

Will be there today as far as I know…the ones that went undrafted

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

You get to come for 1st round…no not you idiot you suck…the other guy! Lol

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 11:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Hey buddy... yeeeeeaaaaahhhhh, I'm gonna need you to come in on Friday.... and maybe Saturday, mmmmmmkaaay."

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Haha!! That's the ticket!

Except I’m more of a The Office fan rather than Office Space

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 23, 2010 12:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fact. You are not good enough for the 1st round.

Thanks to Pioli the children will go hungry without Dez Bryant.
Honestly, Dez couldn't have gone to a worse team.... Fudging Cowboys.
Eric Berry is an excellent addition to the Chiefs.

by BigRedChief on Apr 23, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was ridiculous when someone on AP said that Pioli said he'd never take a safety so early

That statement was as nebulous as could be, and a public, categorical statement against taking any one position so early would really be a dumb move for a draft-trigger-puller.

Pioli’s statement could’ve been interpreted a number of ways. My interpretation? He was saying that a safety has to be a pretty damn spectacular player to consider at that point.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 23, 2010 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

LaCanfora even came right out and said we were taking Okung.

Right before they cut to Berry on the phone and Okung sitting there doing nothin’.

by JacinB on Apr 23, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

he needs to clean his glasses

New body. Same soul.

by kabrink on Apr 23, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okung would've made a lot of sense

But I think the argument against Okung (namely, Branden Albert) was stronger than any argument against Berry.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 23, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

to answer the question ...
Was it just a smokescreen or is/was Pioli genuinely concerned about taking a safety that high?

YES

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Apr 23, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

right tackle

I think we’re solid everywhere else on the o line except for right tackle I’d like us to take one late with our 3rd so it wouldn’t take that long for him to develop or push o callaghan for his spot.

by Dakota23 on Apr 23, 2010 3:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

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