players still available in free agency and trade

by onthereg on Apr 18, 2010 5:43 PM CDT

A lot can happen the week before and of the draft with player trades and signings. I remember the draft we signed Priest right before the draft then traded for Green...

I am still VERY surprised we have not made at least one trade this offseason. I think that will heat up this week as Pioli has been smart to watch all the moves unfold and how the draft lays out. So I took a look at some players that are available both free agents and for trades and if i missed anyone let me know. I have seen several trade down posts but not any on players available for trade.

1. Albert Haynesworth. I start here because if we really did make him an offer last season the interest is there. He is also a beast and could be a HUGE upgrade at NT. Plus, Washington looks to be moving him after offering him in the Mcnabb trade. AND, his cap number ans salary really is not that bad now. The main reason i dont see it happening is from what i read he does not want to play NT in a 3-4. If thats the case i would still consider trading him if you can get him to rotate at DE and NT (similar to Ngata at Baltimore). If he could be had for a 3rd or even our pick 50 it would be a great play for us.

2. Darren Sharper. I think the only problem here would be Sharpers wish to play for KC. What he did for the NO defense last year was amazing and I am confused why they did not lock him up. This reminds me of the Rodney Harrison pickup by the Pats and how well he played for NE (even though i still hate him). Adding Sharper and drafting a young safety would be huge. He is a Free Agent and his list of teams interested could be diminished with teams looking to the draft.

3.Greg Olsen - only 25 and very talented I think he could be a pro bowl player on another team. This is a very good year for TE and the Bears do not have a 1st or 2nd not to mention they hired Mad Man Martz I think this trade could happen for a 3rd or maybe 4th. From ESPN TE Scheffler might go for a 3rd or 4th so that seems to be the value. If he can be had for a high 4th or a 4th and 5th it would be a great pickup to add a TE for Weis (who uses a lot of TEs)

4. Kirk Morrision - Only given a 4th round tender would be a steal if we could trade our high 5th for him. No clue why no interest in him so there might be more too it than i know but he always seemed like a very solid player to me and is still young. Not sure how he would fit in a 3-4 ILB so that might be an issue also but still worth a look.

5. Jason Campbell - looks like he will be moved for a late pick. I have always liked Campbell and think he never really got a fair chance in Washingon. It is tough to develop a young QB and Snyder is not patient enough to not tinker with things every year. He has had a new coordinator so many times how can he build on anything. All i know is his completion percentage and rating has gone up each of his 4 years and if anyone can relate to playing behind a bad OL it is Campbell. Not a need as we have Croyle but I am always in favor of improving the depth on the team and I know that this regime loves the big tall QBs and Campbell fits as he has a big arm and good size.

6. OJ Atogwe - not sure why not more interest so far he seems like a good player to me and is only 28. Has already been franchised once so that has to mean the Rams thought he was good at one time. This will probably be a draft day deal as teams looking for safety help in round 1 or 2 that dont find it might pull the trigger with the Rams just not sure what it would take. I would rather draft someone but if the value is right would be a nice upgrade. It will be interesting to see what we do with Page because if reports are correct he might be traded also.

7. Jared Gaither - there has been plenty of talk on this so i wont go into detail but I wanted him when he was a Supp pick a few years ago but this will probably happen on draft day as some of the tackles come off the board. I think he would be a good upgrade for us but not sure how he would fit with our more athletic zone scheme and some questions about his work ethic. Still if he could be had for a 2nd it would be hard not to look really hard at it as that would complete a much improved OL whether he plays LT and Albert goes to LG or he plays RT and Albert stays.

8. Kenny Phillips - The Giants added Rolle and Deon Grant and he is coming off a knee injury so they might be willing to move him but doubt they get much in return. I really liked him out of Miami when he came out of college and he is only 23 but this is a deep draft for safeties so again it would have to be a lower pick to make sense but if you could trade a 4th and get him for the future even if he comes along slow this year it would be a steal.

9. Big Ben - Will never happen and I dont want to get into a moral debate BUT his leadership, toughness, and results on the field speak for themselves. His haircut and brain off the field on the other hand...

10. Adewale Ogunleye - played DE for the bears but could make the switch to OLB as a situational pass rusher for us. 32 years old and still has some left in the tank as a pass rusher would be an uprade for some sacks but just depends how the draft goes. Free Agent so no draft picks will be required which is a plus.

I am sure I am missing some so feel free to list more options but I think our 3 5ths and even someone wanting to trade up by sending a player and a pick could play out. I would really like to see us sign Sharper and make a play for Olsen if we can package a 4th or 5th (that might give the bears enough picks to jump back into the 2nd).

Should be a fun week.

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I thought the main reason Haynesworth wanted out

was because he didnt want to play in the 34 shannahan is implementing

HEY........quit playing with your dingy

by cassel4prez on Apr 18, 2010 5:54 PM CDT reply actions

He doesn't want to play NT

DE might be a different story, but from what I’ve gathered Shanny has said he is the NT while he is still a skin

by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 18, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Atogwe confuses me too.

He’s a really talented player and has a right of first refusal tender so would cost you nothing but paying him. That could be the catch, as the guy may be just looking for way too much money but I’m surprised that no team(at least newsworthy) has not really shown interest.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Apr 18, 2010 6:20 PM CDT reply actions

I would be all in favor of ditching Cassel For Ben though...

in a heartbeat.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Apr 18, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah. That's what we need.

A serial rapist running our team. That’s a brilliant Idea. I hear that Bam Morris is very sorry for being a big time drug dealer. I’ll bet we could get him to come and start over Jamall Charles.

by BetterRedThanDead on Apr 18, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions

At least when the line breaks down

or Ben holds on to the ball too long he can still make a play…

by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 18, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Of course he can still make a play.

He had felon number “86” to catch for him. It’s not hard to QB for the steelers. you throw to a bunch of talented guys and have a line that actually blocks. Even when the line broke down, ben tended to struggle. Case in point, this last season. This is how we beat the Steelers. It was poor line play and poor decision making by Big Ben. The guy can’t keep it in his pants, doesn’t know when ‘no’ means ‘no’ and is a fairly overrated QB who happens to be good in the Steelers ‘system’ I’d rather have Cassell comparisons to Ben after Weis gets done with him, especially since I don’t think we’ll be seeing the same “show us on the dolly where the bad roethlisberger touched you” scenarios. Give Cassell a legitimate chance before you thow him under the bus. I seem to recall you guys screaming about Croyle and how good he is. Well, Croyle hasn’t won a game yet. Not one. Honestly, I don’t get all the Cassell hate. It doesn’t make sense. The guy has issues, but considering the weight of the other issues on the field, I.E. the offensive line being porous as a sieve, recievers dropping a record number of balls, ect, that Cassell didn’t have an oppertunity to flourish. Give the guy a chance.

by BetterRedThanDead on Apr 19, 2010 4:09 AM CDT up reply actions

Don't count out some trades on draft day, as part of Pioli getting out of the 5 spot.

I think Pioli really wants out of the 5 spot, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see some kindof complicated , multi-team deal, that would include some free agents and / or trades, so these free agents could still come into play. A question I have is, if Suh actually does drop to 5, does Pioli still want to trade down? He may be the only player who would convince Pioli to stay put. I guess another question is, how would he fit in our 3-4? Could he transition to NT, or would we maybe trade Dorsey? I have heard he is athletic enough, and also has the size, to play any position, but what do Pioli, Crennel and Haley think? Alot of questions leading up to Thursday, and Pioli isn’t giving any clues. Not that it is a surprise he is giving very general answers to questions.

All I know, is that in the 40 years of following this team, this is as pivitol a season as I can remember. Clark has invested heavily in a new GM, an all star coaching staff and a QB, who we still don’t know if he is the man to lead our team to being consistently good, and threats to make the playoffs, for years to come. We should know this year if building primarily through the draft, has been succesful, as most of our core players are in their 2nd to 4th years, and have to perform, or we may be back in pretty much total rebuilding mode and “5 year plans.” The team is losing fans, who are frustrated, and rightly so, and the team had it’s first TV blackout, I believe in it’s history, last season. There has been a major financial investment in rebuilding Arrowhead. With the changes come hope, and if it is false hope, then I can see a mass defection of fans. We need to not just show improvement, but fairly significant improvement this season, or the damage may be irrepairable. Even medicrocy may not be enough. We have had alot of years of that too. That adds some major anxiety when awaiting the draft, and real pressure on Pioli and his boys to perform.

There once was a man from Nantucket......Nevermind.

by Racyman on Apr 18, 2010 10:21 PM CDT reply actions

Giant fan

We’re not looking to move Kenny Philips. Deon Grant was signed as insurance/depth/mentor in case KP is slow to recover from his injury. Rolle was signed to be the FS, so there is no conflict there. KP claims to be on a good schedule to return from this in time for the pre-season, and i’m 100% sure Jerry Reese(our GM) isn’t looking to move our (hopeful) safety stud.

by wilddre22 on Apr 19, 2010 12:40 AM CDT reply actions

There is a reason these guys are still available

either teams are over-pricing them in order to keep them (ie D. Johnson), or they want more money than anybody is willing to pay

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by BJ Kissel on Apr 19, 2010 12:45 AM CDT reply actions

Dont know what the Bears want for Greg

But i would love to see him on the team for a 5th or even a 4th round pick.

by Royals Time on Apr 19, 2010 1:27 AM CDT reply actions

Hey that's a good post. One suggestion. Many of us Chiefs fans don't know a lot about players from other teams

It sure helps if you can go back into your post and edit it by putting in the position they play and for what team they played or play for. I don’t even know some of these guys. Thanks. I am curious abou them but am at work and don’t have all day to look them up.

So it helps when your posting if you can shore up some info on the guys. Like why are they a good pick up? What numbers did they post last season etc?

I LOVE SHARPER. i don’t know why he’s not here. NO matter what. He would be great. It would also provide a smokescreen. As the league would be wondering what that all means for Eric Berry at #5.

Hey bring him in to camp. If he’s got anything left, we use him to mentor our safeties. God knows they need it. Especially if we draft one. He can contribute and teach. He’s a win win. There’s really no excuse not to get him here this season.

by krayfish on Apr 19, 2010 7:23 AM CDT reply actions