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What number will Eric Berry wear for the Chiefs?

 

I was wondering, when the Chiefs draft Eric Berry; what number do you think he will choose  to wear? I looked up the rules, and apparently a safety is only permitted to wear numbers 20-49.

Star-divide

It just won't feel right. You know what i mean?

21 is taken by Kolby Smith, which is the number I'd want to see him wear.

So I'm gunna say 41, because 41 is the reverse of 14. It's a cool number, and it would look great on Eric.

Also most of our 20's numbers are taken.

So what number do you want to see Berry wear?eric berry Pictures, Images and Photos

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What number do you want Berry to wear? (I looked up all the available numbers 20-49)
27
36 votes
28
25 votes
29
13 votes
30
19 votes
32
6 votes
33
9 votes
36
3 votes
37
2 votes
41
155 votes
49
16 votes

284 votes | Poll has closed

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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I think....

he will wear 21 for the Browns, wouldn’t mind 28 with KC

by tdbowe on Apr 11, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

GUYS.... 28 was Abner Haynes' number, so therefore is retired.

I say give him Albert Lewis old number 29!

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 11, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey, you show some RESPECT for Lewis

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

spent last year in western Colorado ... a BBQ place there owned by former Broncos WR

Vance Johnson

talked to him a few times, very nice guy … had his girl in one of my classes … he most certainly remembers Albert Lewis from more than a few good hits applied back in the day

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"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

great memories of when Ross and Lewis were our starting corners!

So all it takes is thumping from a KC corner and VOILA….an epiphany…lets open a BBQ joint

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by aPacificChief on Apr 12, 2010 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

How 'Bout 27?

So he can “flush” the Larry Johnson poison out of it!

by bbear200 on Apr 11, 2010 7:31 AM CDT reply actions  

How about the square root of negative one?

Because it’s imaginary!

Ha! Couldn’t help myself. :P
41 sounds great.

You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?

by Mully on Apr 11, 2010 7:44 AM CDT reply actions  

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If everyone worked as hard as me, I would be out of a job.

-Steve Nash

by Red Shadow on Apr 11, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mullly....you really said something there. I havent' figured out what yet, but I like it.

Ok. You have cajonas the size of Texas. I had to laugh at the title. I just shook my head and thought “Yah. That’s gonna bring some heated threads”.

I’m still grinning. I think it’s funny. But I’ll play along. I think he should wear number 20 for Barry Sanders. Cuz their both named Berry/Barry, ALSO because he will be our defensive Barry Sanders if he lives up to his billing.

(I like Okung)

by krayfish on Apr 11, 2010 7:54 AM CDT reply actions  

HaHa. . . Thanks

I’d like to see 20 also but I believe that donald Washington wears that number. thinking 41 is just perfect. So anyways, I got a question for you. Why do you want Okung? I know it’s not about this article but; don’t you feel he will mess up our entire line? If he were to come here there would be a few different setups. Branden at LT, LG, or RT. Which would force either Waters to play C, or leave Kansas City. By forcing Brian to play center, that means Casey won’t play. If you put Branden at RT, then Ryan Ocal won’t start. So I feel the best solution would be for Branden to play RT just so it doesn’t mess up the oline’s full setup. Lilja has got to play too.
Thats where Eric Berry comes in!

by KCCHIEFS94 on Apr 11, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

O Call shouldn't be starting.

I have said this for a while. He is an adequate starter but he performed badly all year. 8 sacks and 24 rushes and he only started 10 games. O Call gave up way too many QB pressures. Would i be fine with him starting so that we draft defensive playmakers? yes definitely but i think the area does need improvement either this year or next year.

You can draft defensive line to stop a player at the line.
You can draft linebackers to stop a player 3-4 yards down the field.
Or you can draft a safety to tackle him 15 yards down the field.
I'll take the first two any day.

by ChiefsfanJon on Apr 11, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

100% completely disagree

First of all, he started 12 games, not 10. He also PLAYED in 14 games. He was an instant upgrade over D-Mac and Richardson. He allowed only FOUR sacks..not 8. This info can be found in many places, but what better place to quote it from than our very own Arrowhead Pride?

From:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/1/14/1250316/wade-smith-was-the-best-value-on

T Ryan O’Callaghan

Played in 14 games (12 starts)
$655,330 ($54,610 per start)
2 penalties
4 sacks allowed

O’Callaghan played well. As you said…adequate. But I beg to differ that he performed badly all year. He struggled at first, but along with the rest of the OL, he really improved as the season went on. RT is not the problem..RG and C is. O’Call is only 26 years old. He’s got the size and athleticism to be a good RT. Get a good RG to put next to him and he could be a very good RT.

People seem to think we need a star at every position. We dont. EVERY team (yes even the great ones) have a player or players who need to be upgraded. RT NOT a priority thisyear, and not next year either UNLESS he has a terrible season this year.

Improve RG and I’m willing to bet O’Call gets better as well.

by Petey14 on Apr 11, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

To add to that

if you check out the post, you’ll notice O’Call had the same numbers as Wade Smith. And Wade Smith struck a pretty good contract with HOU.

by Petey14 on Apr 11, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

and I'd wager Lilja would be that update at RG

which makes for a better right lide of the line …

good stuff, Petey … O’Cal isn’t a worry at this point

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got this information directly from a website that breaks down stats and info. There aren't many sites that actually track offensive line play.

While O’Callaghan continued to play at this level until the season was almost over, he never missed a snap and ended up with eight sacks, six hits and 24 hurries against him.

As you can see 8 sacks and 24 hurries at RT but it was in 14 games not 10.

You can draft defensive line to stop a player at the line.
You can draft linebackers to stop a player 3-4 yards down the field.
Or you can draft a safety to tackle him 15 yards down the field.
I'll take the first two any day.

by ChiefsfanJon on Apr 11, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/12/04/between-the-lines-sacks-allowed-team-by-team/

NFL fanhouse is a much more respected website than this hole-in-the-wall website you have referenced 8 sacks from.

And NFL fanhouse says 4 sacks allowed. Thats 2 sources citing 4 sacks allowed.

Sacks Allowed is a bogus stat anyways. We dont know the play call and the OL’s assignment. There are MANY scenario’s in which a player is unfairly attributed with a sack allowed.

Example:

Play call is an outside pitch to the right. O’Call is to go out to the right. RG is to secure the DE, with C, LG, and LT are 1 on 1 with the RDE, RDT, and LDT. Got the play call? Good. Moving on..

O’Call pulls right. However, the LDE across from him moves outside to speed rush the QB. The RG has his head stuck up his ass and instead of going for the LDE, he helps the C doubleteam a DT. O’Call, knowing his assignment, allows the DE to go by ASSUMING his teammate who is assigned to this DE is going to block him. O’Call is the only player who really is near this DE, so the sack is attributed to him, EVEN THOUGH it was actually the RG who screwed up.

Thats just 1 scenario. Players get sacks allowed unfairly attributed to them all the time. Thats probably why its not an official stat.

by Petey14 on Apr 12, 2010 4:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

To play devil's advocate Petey. We don't know that your example is accurate.

O’ Call might have just gotten burned for those sacks cleanly. It’s POSSIBLE that your example could be true in certain scenarios but they aren’t proven to have been the one’s O Callahan was involved in.

I think the O line itself will be better because of jones and charles.

by krayfish on Apr 12, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was up way too late last night

That example doesnt even make sense. If the play call I mentioned is an outside pitch to the right, Charles has the ball..not the QB..so there is no sack.

Haha. My mistake.

However, I’m at work right now and I dont have time, but I’ll be back later to give you the example I MEANT to get across.

by Petey14 on Apr 12, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

This website you referenced it using completely opinionated reasoning for what is or isn't a sack.

Yes Cassel holds on to the ball to long and tries to make plays out of nothing but it doesn’t dismiss the fact that Ocally gave up 8 sacks and more importantly 24 hurries that is a ridiculous number. Albert gave up 7 sacks last year but he only allowed 16 hurries.

You can draft defensive line to stop a player at the line.
You can draft linebackers to stop a player 3-4 yards down the field.
Or you can draft a safety to tackle him 15 yards down the field.
I'll take the first two any day.

by ChiefsfanJon on Apr 13, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay..

can you explain to me how you came to that conclusion that the website uses opinionated reasoning for what is and isnt a sack?

More importantly, can you explain to me how the hole-in-the-wall website you referenced DOESNT use opinionated reasoning?

Dude, I’ve given you two sites with the same numbers.

by Petey14 on Apr 15, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean IF we pick Berry.

Because you have no clue what Pioli is doing, or what he may do. Besides he’s already stated he don’t like taking safeties that high. Also, ILB Rolando McClain is a bigger need.

True Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"

With the 5th overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select, Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama.

*Member of the unknown draft Rolando McClain fan club*

by KC Nate on Apr 11, 2010 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

MLB a bigger need?

How is MLB a bigger need, when the Chiefs allowed Kyle Orton to throw for over 400yds without Marshall? remember the Dallas game? Does the name Miles Austin sound familar? I agree we need a MLB, but not more than a safety. DJ is a great MLB. He just needs to start. Also I would like to point out both san diego games where LT and sproles did nothing but, rivers scorched us through the air. I’m sorry, but everyone that thinks MLB is our biggest weakness is wrong. I personally believe that the second biggest need is either NT, or WR. we had 3 recievers hat dropped alot of passes. D bowe tied for 1st. Mark Bradley and bobby Wade were tied for 4th with most drops. MLB is a weakness but not something that needs to be addressed at 5.

by KCCHIEFS94 on Apr 11, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's been brought up here before

That it’s no coincidence that the most feared defenses in the league have arguably the 2 greatest safeties of our time playing for them in the Ravens and Steelers.

I’d like to jump on the McClain bandwagon, praying for the next DT, but the fact remains that there will never be another DT.

Berry doesnt have to be the “next” anybody. He just gets to be Eric Berry. He may not be the savior that people make him out to be, but he will make an impact- – moreso than McClain ever could for us.

And btw, I picked 30 for Berry. Just to get the bad taste of Mike’s Brown out of our mouths.

by KCJayhawk on Apr 11, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jayhawk

you’ve forgotten that some of the all-time best defenses in the league featured a VERY STRONG defensive line (something we lack and we NEED NT) and exceptional LBs (I’ll redirect your Ravens reference to Ray Lewis, LB … and the Steelers reference back to the days of “Mean” Joe Green on the line and Jack Lambert at LB)

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rush yards allowed per game=156.5 31st in the league

pass yards allowed per game=231.7 22nd in the league.
therefore ILB is the greater need. LT did bad the whole season anyway. They are both big needs but IMO ILB is higher

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Draft
1) Rolando McClain ilb 2a) Terrence Cody nt 2b) Darryl Washinton olb 3) Jordan Shipley wr 4) Darell Stuckey ss

by trentchiefsfan on Apr 11, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

actually ... NT is the bigger need than either S or LB

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

but Dan Williams is way too much of a reach. I see Pioli taking Cody if he has to go NT. lets just hoope if he does, he does a trade down first

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Your 2010 AFC Champions, The Kansas City Chiefs

Draft
1) Rolando McClain ilb 2a) Terrence Cody nt 2b) Darryl Washinton olb 3) Jordan Shipley wr 4) Darell Stuckey ss

by trentchiefsfan on Apr 11, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Needs, IMO

NT
ILB
S

True Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"

With the 5th overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select, Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama.

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by KC Nate on Apr 11, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would reorder that.

NT
ILB
C
OLB
S

If you want to know why teams were able to throw over the top of us and pretty much anywhere look no further than the fact Vrabel is done as a pass rusher. Hali got consistent pressure but you need the guy on the weakside to be able to collapse the pocket from the other side. We need another pass rusher to help mask who is blitzing on plays also. If teams know that Hali is our only rusher they can slide protection to his side and not worry about the rest of our defense.

Also Weigman is not the answer and he may not even make the team. I like Weig but he is here for competition with Niswanger for the second Center spot. I believe we take a young center and if that center needs a year to learn then Weig or Niswanger will be the starter for a year.

You can draft defensive line to stop a player at the line.
You can draft linebackers to stop a player 3-4 yards down the field.
Or you can draft a safety to tackle him 15 yards down the field.
I'll take the first two any day.

by ChiefsfanJon on Apr 11, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

OLB? Really?

OLB is not near the top. OLB is below WR. It’s a spot that can be addressed next year when it’s an actual concern. Right now Vrabel and Hali are set and should not change.

NT
ILB
S
WR
C
.
.
.
OLB

True Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"

With the 5th overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select, Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama.

*Member of the unknown draft Rolando McClain fan club*

by KC Nate on Apr 11, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry but i don't agree.

When your team is 31st in the league in sacks and 20 sacks behind the top team that is a huge problem. Vrabel is done as a pass rusher. Hali is our only pass rusher. Dorsey and Jackson are both ends and therefore if they get 6 sacks this year combined i’d be amazed. Our ILB may get 4. Safeties and corners i’d say another 5. that’s 24 sacks next year and that’s topside imo. Must get another OLB that can help get 8 sacks from the other side. 32 would put us middle of the pack and in good position.

And safety’s are helped most by a pass rush…. No time to get that deep pass off if the QB is getting hit in the mouth.

You can draft defensive line to stop a player at the line.
You can draft linebackers to stop a player 3-4 yards down the field.
Or you can draft a safety to tackle him 15 yards down the field.
I'll take the first two any day.

by ChiefsfanJon on Apr 11, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sacks

We need a pass rusher, but the low sack numbers are symptomatic of poor run defense. If our teams can move the chains on the ground late in the game, then they pass a lot less. I’d argue that the best way to increase sack numbers would be to add a good NT in the middle.

This would clog the middle gaps on running downs forcing 3rd and long passing downs, where in turn the NT could collapse the pocket forcing the QB to roll out into the tender embrace of Tamba Hali

by Aesthetist on Apr 12, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

we need the NT, yes

… though in passing situations the NT doesn’t “collapse the pocket” as much as he ties up a coupla guys which leaves one end or the other “open” to Hali or someone from the weak side (in theory)

but yeah, we totally need NT … in my mind that’s Cody

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by upamtn on Apr 12, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup agree with ya...

That is also not to mention times that the DE is going to be going one on one creating pressure on the QB. A top tier NT is essential and the centerpiece of the 3-4… if he isn’t gettting the job done the rest of the defense falls apart.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Apr 12, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha....The TITLE of this post just made my day

We can address the NT with our 2b selection, and Torrell is our Troupe®!

Gotta use our 5th pick on an impact player.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 11, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No MLB is not.

The ILB is. MLB is a 4-3 defense. We are in 3-4 Defense which consits of two OLBs and two ILBs. You wan’t to know why they got big numbers in the air on us? Because we had weak ILBs who weren’t always showing up so the safeties had to cheat up to make sure run was stopped, then they get caught cheating that’s how. Getting a safety isn’t going to stop the run and will keep getting burned via air.

I’m not trying to defend the safeties either, they weren’t great, but a good deal of it was cheating safeties hurting us in the air.

True Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"

With the 5th overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select, Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama.

*Member of the unknown draft Rolando McClain fan club*

by KC Nate on Apr 11, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

consists*

sorry

True Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"

With the 5th overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select, Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama.

*Member of the unknown draft Rolando McClain fan club*

by KC Nate on Apr 11, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just to play along with you (I think you take the best play maker available that fits a positional need and then fill in the issues with solid 2nd round talent)

If our rush defense was that bad even with cheating safeties… it kind of leads you to believe that the safeties are just bad all around. Safety is in just as big of a need of an upgrade as ILB is.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.

by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 12, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe ILB is bigger.

Because if the safeties didn’t have to cheat with poor run stop coverage the safeties wouldn’t of have to been out of place and play catch up

True Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"

With the 5th overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select, Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama.

*Member of the unknown draft Rolando McClain fan club*

by KC Nate on Apr 12, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nate, if the NT hadn't been undermanned then the LBs wouldn't have had to be chasing down RB's all over the field

it starts on the line … our needs on Defense, IMNSHO, are (in order) NT, S, LB … and I don’t think I can overstate the need for a NT … stop the run at the line and the LB play becomes much more marginalized (less important) and even just that NT getting double-teamed means an opening someplace else for LB to zip thru and blow up the play

S position is a definite need, but the main thing we need there is speed, and there are fast guys we can find in round two … the rare find will be a true, dominating 3-4 NT

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by upamtn on Apr 12, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude Up!......thats like saying that she's not ugly....just needs a nose job, and a lot more hair removal

The whole D was ugly. Got to replace the whole thing, and at 5 the BPA (impact player) is got to be Berry.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 12, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pac, I respecfully disagree ... two points if I may?

1) BPA is a highly subjective status, that is to say it’s opinion …
2) Impact can be measured just as well in terms of team needs, and our biggest need is, IMNSHO, that NT position

please don’t take this as a knock on Berry, I’m sure he’s a fine player for Tenn and might well be a very good player at the next level, but do remember there are no guarantees

there are, however, opportunity costs … that is to say, iff one were to pick Berry at #5 then one might well miss out on the best NT available, which to me would be an unacceptable cost, given the need and given the rarity of true 3-4 NTs available … there are other DBs that the team can get later on, but the chances of getting the top NT in the draft is there at #5 but gone by Round 2 … given that, in my own mind, the primary need is to stop the run, and that the best way of doing that is with the best NT available, my preference is to pick the NT first and fill in the Secondary with speed in the later rounds

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Apr 12, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry upamtn, I understand what your trying to day, but I too must respectfully disagree...(seriously nor sarcasm involved)....

This is gonna get wordy, but allow me the ability to try and clearly express my points without sounding to egotistical ….

BPA is a highly subjective status, that is to say it’s opinion …

But is not the draft and where players are selected nothing more than a varied amount of opinions by the different front offices? A successful draft IMO lies in making the best educated choice. Which is achieved simply by trying to remove as many negative criteria that could expose any potential flaws in the player. Thereby trying to reduce the failure rate in evaluating a college prospect.

Criteria imo that would be studied when evaluating potential candidates for your roster,
Does the player have immaturity issues?
Does he have an alcohol or drug problem?
Is there a desire to become better, and have a solid work ethic?
Does he have the physical attributes required to play their position and be successful?
etc…

GM’s are basically like HR people in which they study their resumes and do background checks to make sure that these possible candidates will be an asset to the company. To me, that is what Pioli meant when explained about all the activities leading to the draft are but pieces to the puzzle.

but do remember there are no guarantees

I agree to a certain extent. Although there are no guarantees, why is it then that certain GM’s are more successful than others in evaluating college talent? Wouldn’t all choices subject to a 50/50 success/bust rate when it comes to selecting players? The answer lies in the GM’s ability to make the best educated choice from tried and tested techniques that were successful in the past. Basically playing with the laws of probability to determine the wisest player choice.

IMO in every draft there are always 5-8 real special players regardless of position, and the 32 teams will pretty much agree on who they are, maybe just not in the exact order on who’s rated over the other, but teams will generally know who the really special ones will be. The consensus in the NFL is that Berry is one of those really unique players that deserve top 5 consideration.

If one were to pick Berry at #5 then one might well miss out on the best NT available

Sorry uptamn, but Cody being the best NT available is also an opinion. The consensus in the NFL is that Berry deserves to be among the elite 5 picks, Cody does not even belong in the first round.
We need a NT that is absolute, but we have a shot at an elite player at 5, and he fills a position that we also need help in.

Don’t get me wrong I like Cody, but he has some red flags that make me cringe. This is the criteria that I mentioned earlier. The biggest concern for me is his weight issue, which could lead to conditioning and stamina problems. The result of which may lead to other concerns like availability if he is injury prone due to a lack of conditioning.

Here’s the negatives on the Cody:
Conditioning and stamina are concerns, weighed more than 400 lbs before his Alabama days. Shows no quick twitch or explosion. Marginal closing speed. Offers not pass rush value and is strictly a bull rusher. Limited, two down player, leaving the field on passing downs. Questionable work habits. He’s even projected in the second round, because of his lack of overall discipline.

Selecting Cody would not be playing the percentages in our favor. We would be taking a more serious gamble with our selection, rather than making the best educated guess.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 13, 2010 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not MLB

ILB. And there are two positions to fill. DJ could definitely be one of them, but what of the other spot? Williams?

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by burntorangehorn on Apr 11, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dj and Williams play the same ILB position.

We need to find a big run stuffing ILB that has the speed to cover the tosses and play a shallow zone. Only one of those in this draft and its McClain. Jamar Chanay intriques me he is almost a Mayo Clone but again he would be the WILB spot where Demorrio and DJ are.

You can draft defensive line to stop a player at the line.
You can draft linebackers to stop a player 3-4 yards down the field.
Or you can draft a safety to tackle him 15 yards down the field.
I'll take the first two any day.

by ChiefsfanJon on Apr 11, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

They don't have to play the same inside positon

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 11, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

*position

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 11, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

but they do have to.

Neither of them are physical enough to take on blockers and shed them to get to the running back. They are both pass coverage speedy linebackers. You want one of them and a run stuffer in the middle.

You can draft defensive line to stop a player at the line.
You can draft linebackers to stop a player 3-4 yards down the field.
Or you can draft a safety to tackle him 15 yards down the field.
I'll take the first two any day.

by ChiefsfanJon on Apr 12, 2010 4:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are numerous approaches to the roles of the linebacker sets in the 3-4

Some are symmetrical, some are not. A symmetrical approach sometimes involves two coverage backers whose run-stopping responsibilities are on the defense’s side of the LOS.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 12, 2010 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Belcher Anyone?...

 we forget about him? I thought with another year this guy could be a real help to the LB’s

Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.

by Pollard49 on Apr 12, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously? Old...I almost hope we dont draft Berry...

I like the dude to and think he would help the team but come on this is getting nuts. Berry everything and if we draft him thats all we will hear for the next year.

by tomahawk44 on Apr 11, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, when you pick @ 5

there’s literally only a handful of guys worthy of that pick. I know it seems like everyones Berry-nuts but there’s an equal amount of nuts for the rest of the 3 or 4 worthy.

by KCJayhawk on Apr 11, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

So...

Should I put you down for a #41 Berry jersey?

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.

by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 12, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

What if he just doesnt wear a number at all

maybe he could just put a picture of the Kool-Aid guy on his jersey

by badassz1987 on Apr 11, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

+14 KCCHIEFS94

On #41.

Official Member of the "Draft Eric Berry" Fanclub
...you had me at Berry!

(1) E. Berry/SS (2a) G. Tate/WR (2b) J. Hughes/OLB (3) T. Troup/NT (4) J.D. Walton/OC (5a) A. Owusu-Ansah/CB (5b) C. Harbor/TE (5c) M. Johnson/ILB

by chiefsfan62 on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks

Yur little mock draft is exactly like mine. At least for the 1st 3 picks. That is if Hughes is avalible.

by KCCHIEFS94 on Apr 11, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya, man

Its looking more like Hughes will be gone by 2b.

We may end up selecting a NT then and maybe K. Misi (Utah) with our 3rd.

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...you had me at Berry!

(1) E. Berry/SS (2a) G. Tate/WR (2b) J. Hughes/OLB (3) T. Troup/NT (4) J.D. Walton/OC (5a) A. Owusu-Ansah/CB (5b) C. Harbor/TE (5c) M. Johnson/ILB

by chiefsfan62 on Apr 11, 2010 9:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

not if we take Cody at #5

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Buck'O on Apr 11, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

see? pure logic ... works every time!

rubs to da Beaniebaby for me!

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

22

Has a nice ring to it. 20 is taken by Ed Reed and 43 by TP in PIT. BS is 21 in IND.

22 is pretty cool – 44 would also be cool or 33…you get what im saying.

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by Red Shadow on Apr 11, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

44 is Page's Number

I believe we will resign page, so that number is taken. 33 would be tight, if its open. Larry Bird baby (Pippen)

by KCCHIEFS94 on Apr 11, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say 23...

Ed Reed Status

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Apr 11, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

A number in the 20's that is.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Apr 11, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great...You just totally jinxed the pick.

Don’t assign your numbers before the draft. Substitute chicken and hatched where appropriate.

Left Tackle is Brandon Albert's natural position.

by Idahochief on Apr 11, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey man... With all the talk of the Chiefs taking Bulaga

I’ll take any talk that makes me imagine Berry coming to KC. Don’t ruin it for the rest of us.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Apr 11, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I totally see 41...

Bethea looks good in that # too. I could see it on Berry.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Apr 11, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

27

So that we can more easily forget about the last 27

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Apr 11, 2010 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

If we get Berry

which, I wouldn’t mind. (granted, I’m still on the Rolando McClain wagon) I’d have to go with either 41, or, as another poster said, 27, because, flushing the evil from that number would be awesome. My three top guys are Suh, McClain, and Berry. If we got any of those three I’d be happy. If we did hypothetically get Berry, then either of those numbers would be awesome as far as I’m concerned.

by BetterRedThanDead on Apr 11, 2010 4:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Really!?!?

WHO FUCKING CARES!

Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell

by averagegatsby on Apr 11, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Hahaha! I love the anger

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Apr 11, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gatsby behind the keyboard

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Apr 11, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I hate Eric Berry

If the Chiefs draft him, I’m cheering for Oakland. I can say that because there is no way Scott Pioli will be taking a safety that high. Drafting a safety when u can’t rush the passer is like getting a really nice bag to put on your girls face instead of getting a hotter girl.

All aboard the Vernon Wells Bandwagon!

by craig in calgary on Apr 11, 2010 6:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You know what's stupid??

How people seem to be forgetting that there are 6 more rounds in the draft to fill needs. People think that we can’t get a quality NT or OT in later rounds, though people forget about such stars that came under the radar like JARED FUCKING ALLEN, Tom Brady, Terrell Davis, and Priest Holmes.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Apr 11, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

It’s a deep draft. Take a top flight man who fills a major need. WTF is so wrong with that?

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by Buck'O on Apr 11, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is whats wrong with that

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Apr 11, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's pretty wrong...

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by Buck'O on Apr 11, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

PETB

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Apr 11, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whats the number?

1 (800) JackASS?

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 11, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree its a deep draft...

so if Pioli believes in a Dan Williams pick, or OT, or Rolando Mcclain then grab a Nate Allen or Morgan Burnett in the 2nd. This could be worked either way

by tdbowe on Apr 11, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

R2J ... by the same token, there are other rounds to get a Safety of good quality as well ...

perhaps the best FS ever to wear a KC uniform was a guy who was undrafted, as a punter no less … fellow named Deron Cherry, maybe you’ve heard of him … if not, look him up sometime

so relax … we get who we get when Pioli gets them

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I've said it before and I'll say it again..

i’ll take my chances on Berry and then a NT or OT later on.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Apr 12, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

The same goes with Safeties

Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell

by averagegatsby on Apr 11, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

But if Berry is possibly the best player in the draft

why would you pass on THAT?

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Apr 12, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

BPA is highly subjective

suppose we had first pick overall … any player out there … ANY player at all

would you go Bradford when the defense is so incredibly bad? would you go Suh, who is arguably THE real BPA but isn’t the prototype NT we need? would you go Okung who seems clearly to best OLineman in the entire draft, even though we’re solid at LT?

and if you’d pass on THOSE three, then you might also begin to understand how we could pass on Berry …

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"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
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by upamtn on Apr 12, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

as far as positional value goes Safety is very low on the totum pole...

Even IF Berry is as good as advertised he still could very well be very Meh here, his value with the Eagles is much higher because he would be the final piece and not a building block.

Safeties can not do their jobs without quality linebackers and linebackers can not do their job without a quality D-Line.

Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell

by averagegatsby on Apr 12, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What:
Even IF Berry is as good as advertised he still could very well be very Meh here

Who’s that? Suh’s cousin?

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.

by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 12, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep...

But seriously If Berry doesn’t have the tools to allow him to succeed then he will be a bust even if he is good.

Sometimes the best way to convince someone he is wrong is to let him have his way. --- Red O'Donnell

by averagegatsby on Apr 12, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is why I want us to get him the tools at 36 and 50.

I’m just a big fan of take what appears to be the BPA and get pieces to put around him to help him succeed.

Pioli is obviously willing to do this. He did trade for Cassel and didn’t start to really address the OL until this year. He seems to be perfectly content with taking pieces as they’re available and filling in later.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.

by Red N Gold Beast on Apr 12, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the whole point of the argument

is the front 7 can make a safety great, but a safety can’t make a front 7 great

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by averagegatsby on Apr 12, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

craig ... I don't "hate" Nerry ... never have

but I do hate the “hype” and more hype and endless blathering that he’s the only guy out there who could help and if we draft Berry we’ll automatically win every game etc etc ad nauseum

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's true

There are a number of guys that could be amazing in terms of filling the massive holes on this roster.

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by Buck'O on Apr 11, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, like Cody for instance ... he's massive

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

The only true prototypical NT prospect in the draft IMO. If we reach and take him it wouldn’t bother me much.

I still think he’d look great with a pair of pasties!

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by Buck'O on Apr 11, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

now, see? THAT'S why I love you!

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hehehe

We’re about to get yelled at for patting each other on the backs again. lol

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by Buck'O on Apr 11, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

buttpats, my friend ... good stuff

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man .... If I hear you guys patting each other backs again about Cody

I’m just gonna assume your his agents.

So which teams have expressed interest in your client by the way?

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 11, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry man

Dan WIlliams makes me nervous. He’s been getting a bunch of bad press.

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by Buck'O on Apr 11, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really

While I admit I am a Berry fan, there are a good half dozen players that I’d be ecstatic to see in red an gold taken at #5.

I just don’t think reaching for Cody or taking Berry will sink the Chiefs draft like a lot of others around here do. I think either of them would be amazing. I think either of them will have a huge impact on an otherwise anemic defense.

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by Buck'O on Apr 11, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cause your not trying hard enough....

Eww… squirrel…..

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 11, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pac, why you bringing up Williams again ... you know Cody's a better NT

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cody's only better if were talkin Sumo wrestlers!

and which Williams to talkin about? I prefer Serena myself….theres just something magical in her grunts with her return volleys…amazing…

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by aPacificChief on Apr 11, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

tell Scott to draft her immediately and SHE can wear the pasties

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes please!

drools...

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by Buck'O on Apr 11, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

ITs Serena's manly Deltoids...right?...Uhm.....

I actually like the LB thighs! simply breathe taking!

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by aPacificChief on Apr 12, 2010 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cody's only better if we're talking football

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 12, 2010 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Buck'O

Dan Williams gives me a bad feeling. I feel like Cody just might be a better 3-4 NT. Something we need.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Apr 12, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree 100%

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by Buck'O on Apr 12, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely Cody is better

He also has the benefit of two years of experience playing in a 3-4 defense, and being the pivot-point of that defense. That’s what a great nose tackle needs to do in most alignments of that front.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 12, 2010 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

which teams?

all of them

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

that narrow it down!

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 11, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

see how helpful I am

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes quite? ..wait..? What?

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by aPacificChief on Apr 12, 2010 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

So who do you want?

rolando will not rush the passer. He’s a ILB. So you want an OLB, or DE to rush the passer? I’m not sure if I understand your thinking?

by KCCHIEFS94 on Apr 11, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone who can stuff the run at the LoS

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by upamtn on Apr 11, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

But....how's the body?

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by aPacificChief on Apr 11, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey woody, new pair of lips on the weekly mock draft thread, down near bottom ...

you should check it out, might help you sleep better (grinning)

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by upamtn on Apr 12, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm thinking

I hate to put all the eggs in one basket, all that it does is make you throw and break things needlessly.

by Supersport on Apr 12, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh wow

I cant wait for all the “TOLD YOU SO” post that will come after round 1. bottom line pilot is the only one who can do a thing. stop crying

by Kansascitian on Apr 13, 2010 12:21 AM CDT reply actions  

If we draft Berry...

He will wear 42. Why? The question was once asked, “what is live, the universe, and everything?” to which the answer was 42.

With a gaping whole in the middle of our D line, if we draft a safty with the 5th overall pick in the draft, he darn well better be the answer to life, the universe, and everything otherwise it will be a waste of a pick.

I like Berry (a lot really), but NT is beyond a shadow of a doubt the greatest need on our team right now. So many teams NEED a NT this year that I fear if we do not lock it up with #5, we are going to get a leftover (project) NT.

I must admit I have been flip flopping on who we should take with the #5, but after long thought / consideration I think we MUST get a top tier NT, and I dont see one making it to round 2.

by DivineGrace on Apr 13, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I LOVE IT

WHEN we draft Berry, what number will he wear.

Love itttttt

The OL class is too deep to take Bryan "T-Rex" Bulaga at 5 if we can't trade down. Just draft Berry, not only will it be the better pick but it will sell jerseys. I mean let's be real, no one is going to buy a Bulaga jersey.

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