Suh Could Very Well Drop To Us At #5

by NW on Mar 8, 2010 10:55 PM CST

It really isn't out of the realm of possibility. Really.

I'll explain after the jump...

*Attention*- At the bottom of this post I have included a poll. I want to see AP's view in numbers: Can Suh play NT in a 3-4?

...But this post isn't really about whether he can or can't Nose Tackle, it's about his potential availability at the #5 spot. If the first 4 picks play out as follows, it could happen.

1- Rams- Bradford
Reason for selection: There was already speculation that they were leaning toward Bradford. Now they've signed Fred Robbins at defensive tackle and drafting a QB just got more feasible, and boy do they need one.

2- Lions- McCoy
Reason for selection: There is also speculation the Lions go Okung here. I don't see it as Jeff Backus has been manning the LT spot for his entire ten year career w/out missing a start. They may take McCoy over Suh under the belief that he's more adept at rushing the passer. Getting after the quarterback is a quality that the Lions are in dire need of, even after acquiring Corey Williams and Kyle Vanden Bosch. Both of whom seem to have lost their pass-rushing prowess as they combined for only 12 sacks over the last two years. That's 6 between the both of them each year. 3 sacks each... per year. How Vanden Bosch went to the Probowl last year I'll never know.

3- Bucs- Berry
Reason for selection: While playing for Tennessee, Berry played in and mastered the Tampa 2 defense under the direction of Monte Kiffin, whom current Bucs Head Coach Raheem Morris worked under and succeeded the position of Defensive Coordinator from (before promptly being promoted to HC). How often is a team in position to select a rookie already masterfully familiar with it's defense? For a team as void of talent as the Bucs, Berry may be the surest bet they'll find.

4- Skins- Okung
Reason for selection: The Redskins have already tied up a ton of money in their D-line with the Albert Haynesworth signing of last year. Meanwhile, their longtime Left Tackle, Chris Samuels, has just announced his retirement. To me, it just makes sense for them to address their offensive line. Mike Shanahan selected Ryan Clady in the first round in his final draft with the Broncos, could he go LT again? Okung, by the way, has stated that the scheme he best fits is the Zone, a staple for Shanahan's legendary running game.

5- Chiefs- Suh
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Can Ndamukong Suh play Nose Tackle in a 3-4 defense?

Yes

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No

125 votes

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hmmm I dunno about that

I could see
St. Louie goin bradford
Detroit goin Okung
Tampa goin McCoy
Washington goin Berry, Clausen, or Davis/Bulaga
and Suh falling to us

by mcclanahanman on Mar 8, 2010 11:00 PM CST reply actions

I could see McCoy falling to you but not suh.

And as I have been told he doesn’t fit in your system so you would pass on him and I think you would likely get Berry.

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 8, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions

IF McCoy had come out last year

He would have been our pick instead of Jackson, he fits the mold of DE in the 3-4 just as well as Suh or Jackson.

If St. Louis passes on Suh and takes Bradford, I believe Dorsey goes to Detroit along with the #5 and we take Suh, and get Detroit’s second throw in next year’s fourth if you have to.

Why everyone is down on Jackson, I don’t know. Give him some time and a real NT and you’ll see him blossom.

by mcclanahanman on Mar 9, 2010 8:48 AM CST up reply actions

I don't see how suh would not fit the chiefs system

if anything it is the other way around. Suh has a lot of strength…wich is perfect as a 3-4 DE. McCoy is not a big strength guy.

I am also starting to believe that Sue might be a good 3-4 NT.

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Mar 9, 2010 6:21 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah...

that would be the most likely scenario. Tampa picking McCoy isn’t far fetched by any means. If they want a 2-gapper, then draft Suh. If they want a 3-technique they should draft McCoy. Spagnola (Rams head coach) said McCoy was his favorite player in the draft. And Detroit would be dumb not to draft Okung. Stafford got killed last season and Backus wasn’t exactly guilt free. Backus is getting up there (33 I think) and would better serve the Lions by moving inside to LG. (he is a good run blocker). Stafford impressed me a little last season and if they can protect him, Detroit might actually have a shot of becoming good someday.

As for Suh playing NT? I think he can do it, but it would be a waste of his talent. He could be a serviceable NT or an elite 3-4 DE. If Suh falls to us we should take him in a heartbeat and then try to deal Dorsey as quickly as possible. We might be able to trade him to say Minnesota for their 1st and pick up Pouncey from Florida. Thats my dream at least.

Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 8, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions

if suh falls to us, its because detriot went lt

and gunther could get dorsey back

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions

huh?

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 8, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions

For suh to fall to #5, it means that Detriot took a LT

Gunther Cunningham is the DC for the Lions, he likes Dorsey and they need a DT. They could trade for Dorsey if they get a LT, and we get suh.

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions

Thanks that makes more sense

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 8, 2010 11:29 PM CST up reply actions

No way we give up Dorsey

Huge mistake

by TXChiefan on Mar 9, 2010 6:28 AM CST up reply actions

Im talking about it being more understandable (reading the comment is easier)

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 9, 2010 8:59 AM CST up reply actions

nice and all that, but ... well ... 3 words if I may ...

Mock Draft Thread

I understand what you’re trying to do and say, and it’s cool and after all, not a lot ELSE to post on, and you DO have good explanations, etc … but still …

yanno?

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by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 11:09 PM CST reply actions

Were you raped by a Mock as a child?

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 8, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions

I think he is trying to say that your not suppose to put up Mock drafts and this is pretty close. I could be wrong but someone told me that (or something similar) about here earlier on.

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 8, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions

I'm just...

kidding around with him. Its a running joke around AP, we call them the mock police. I understand their annoyance with it.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 8, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions

I was just trying to get clarification as I am new to your blog (commenting at least)

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 8, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions

Welcome

And yeah, you are right. People are suppose to post their Mocks on the thread in the rec’d fanpost titled Officially AP Mock Draft Thread. I think we should devise a three person panel to determine if a said fanpost deserves the labeling of mock draft. Ups and me should be on it since we have polar opposite views when it comes to mocking and one of the moderators could be the tie breaker. Lol, just a thought.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 8, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions

id vote your sig as a Mock of types lol. Anyway I don't think it will be a problem and we won't see a ton more mocks before the draft anyway.

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 8, 2010 11:26 PM CST up reply actions

I really hope you're right.

It’s gotten better, but still far more of them than I like.

by Archyrr on Mar 9, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions

Why don't you like them though?

I mean yes it can be two much when there is one after another 24/7 and all basically the same but overall I dont think there is anything wrong with doing mocks.

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 9, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions

hey Bleed ... I actually LIKE that idea of yours ... scary, no?

I do realize that SOME posts are (for lack of a better word) postworthy because of length and/or general awesomenes … others aren’t, and not just because I may or may not totally disafree with their position

a “recent” mock/wish list was left up because, as one of the mods put it: it had links (the basic official version) so yeah … that would be cool, a little “mock panel”

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by upamtn on Mar 9, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions

I know, I know...

and I’m sorry about that.
I thought it was just enough on the fringe between post and mock draft that it would be okay.

You have my word that I will never do another post on here that could be construed as a mock draft again.

by NW on Mar 9, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions

lol

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 9, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions

I say no to the question

Suh is not big enough to be a NT,especially with our undersized LBs. He will make a great DT for some team but I doubt he ends up here. With Dorsey having 2 years experience in the NFL, Suh would be a downgrade at that position…At least for 2-3 years.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 8, 2010 11:20 PM CST reply actions

I said no too

But i would like to point out that anyone even me at 215 could play NT, just not very good, or for more than 1 play :P. I’m sure he could play NT in the NFL, but he’s not going to be very good at it, IMO. Suh is better suited for DE in the 3-4 scheme.

by CPT.Caveman on Mar 8, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions

Maybe before the combine

but mccoy performed too poorly for any team to take him with suh still on the board
rams-bradford
lions-suh
bucs-mccoy
skins-clausen or okung
chiefs-berry

by cassel4prez on Mar 8, 2010 11:22 PM CST reply actions

I don't agree that he preformed too poorly at all. He was not as good as suh but still did well.

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 8, 2010 11:28 PM CST up reply actions

suh was the hands down best DT

all year, things might have changed if mccoy had a stronger combine…….but with suh on the board thiers no way they take mccoy

by cassel4prez on Mar 9, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions

+1

by Jclawd on Mar 9, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions

if suh is capable of playing nt...

than why hasnt dorsey, a top 3 defensive prospect of the decade at the same position, tried it? there are reasons why dorsey does not and suh will not play nose in a 3-4: neither have ever done it before, the responsibilities are entirely different, and they are both too undersized to be effective. what makes you think suh can play it if dorsey cant? if its because hes smarter than dorsey, than how would you know that? could you even prove it? lol. most feel suh is more of a richard seymour-type anyways

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by YogaFlame on Mar 9, 2010 12:19 AM CST reply actions

Well, to defend my belief in Suh as a NT, and why Dorsey couldn't.

I’ll start off with the measurables…
Glenn Dorsey- 6’1" 297lbs
Ndamukong Suh- 6’4" 307lbs

Aside from playing style, which I’ll address in a moment, Suh has the type of FRAME that one typically looks for in a nose. Dorsey, on the other hand, is a little on the short side. As long as Suh’s knees check out, he is capable of adding some more weight. Personally, I don’t think additional weight is necessary for Suh, I merely included it for the sake of informational purposes. There were times that I saw Suh simply bench-press offensive lineman into the backfield. We can’t say that about Dorsey.

Now, playing style. Dorsey, a prototypical 3-technique, does not rely so much on strength in his game than his quickness and technique. Suh, on the other hand, uses his brute strength and athleticism a majority of the time as he played nose in the 4-3.

Both of these players are capable of using the full repertoire expected from the top DTs of the past decade. Dorsey can and does utilize his strength; there were times that he DID play nose tackle for us last season, just not on a regular basis. Suh has a complete game; he is smart, he does use technique and he is exceptionally quick. Simply, his "bread and butter " is in using that God-given strength of his.

by NW on Mar 9, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions

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would it be worth the gamble to take a guy at #5 overall who has never played the position before and expect him to be great? 6’1"/6’2" is an average height for 34 NTs anyways, you cant pull opinions out of your ass and call them facts man. you say youve seen suh ""bench-press" college o-linemen into the backfield? im assuming youve never watched dorsey at lsu. he was known for his physicallity, constantly blowing up plays before they even had time to develop. & lsu stacked players on the strongside on purpose (notice dorsey, jackson), it wasnt a traditional defense.
even if suh falls to us, pioli is smart enough to take a position of need over talent, just look at his draft history. he will not be drafting a DE #5 overall to replace another, nor will he risk drafting a player he hopes can make a major transition which hes never played before in a league much better than what hes used to.
say whatever you want, but suh will not be playing NT in any 34 defense, mostly because he has never done it before.

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by YogaFlame on Mar 9, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions

he is used to dbl teams in middle

by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 9, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions

In order of height, then weight:
Casey Hampton- 6’1" 325
Vince Wilfork- 6’2" 325
B.J. Raji- 6’2" 337
Ryan Pickett- 6’2" 340
Jason Ferguson- 6’3" 310
Jamal Williams- 6’3" 348
Jay Ratliff- 6’4" 303
Bryan Robinson- 6’4" 304
Haloti Gnata- 6’4" 345
Shaun Rogers- 6’4" 350
Kris Jenkins- 6’4" 360
Albert Haynesworth- 6’6" 350
Average Height: 6’3" 1/4
Only one nose tackle stands at Dorsey’s height of 6’1", three stand at 6’2". Eight stand 6’3" or higher.

As for whether I ever watched Dorsey at LSU, the answer is no. I can say that I’ve watched every game he’s played in as a Chief though. I’m sticking with what I said, which, if you actually read it, conceded that he does play with strength:
“Dorsey can and does utilize his strength; there were times that he DID play nose tackle for us last season, just not on a regular basis”
I never said he didn’t use brute-force, merely that he relies moreso on his quickness and technique.

As for Suh “bench-pressing” linemen into the backfield, I only included the comment as a rhetorical quip. I’m guessing you’re an avid watcher of college football, so I probably don’t need to include this, but I will anyway. Here’s a video I just found on Suh. In it you’ll see on the very first play how he beats a double team. Following that is a commentator talking about how Suh is not a “350 pounder”, which I interpreted as him saying that he plays much bigger than he is. My interpretation was affirmed once he followed that comment by proclaiming Suh as “a man amongst boys”. Shortly after, the commentator praises Suh’s use of leverage then warns: “He will have to work on some moves in the NFL, he’s so used to just driving guys back to the quarterback.”

As for him moving to a position he’s never played before, I’d say that a majority of college players move to positions they’ve never played before once they enter the league. Some changes are more drastic than others, but it’s simply the difference between the pro and college game.
Here are some drastic examples off the top of my head:
-Brian Urlacher, college safety
-Hines Ward, college quarterback
-Brian Waters, college tight end
-Shawne Merriman, DeMarcus Ware, countless other “rush linebackers”, college defensive ends
-Tedy Bruschi, college defensive end
-Antonio Gates, college basketball player
-etc.

A less drastic change could be something as simple as a quarterback who is used to the spread formation that now has to take snaps from under center.

Welp, that’s my retort.
It’s been fun debating, and at least we can agree on one thing: Go Chiefs!

by NW on Mar 10, 2010 2:32 AM CST up reply actions

If there is a way we get Suh...

Unfortunately I say (and think) we trade Dorsey. Because I’m one of the CURRENT 31 people who think that Suh CANNOT play NT. I think Suh is what Pioli was REALLY looking for last year in Tyson. Suh is Richard Seymour re-incarnated. You put Suh in Dorsey’s position and then HOPEFULLY draft Cody to put at NT. Now if it was up to ME, I would get rid of Tyson, because he’s shown just about zero promise, but Scott would never trade away his #1 from a year ago so soon. And Dorsey is more fit to be a DT in the 4-3.

Now… Back to the real world…. Suh isn’t gonna fall to us. lol.

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by R2J_24 on Mar 9, 2010 12:39 AM CST reply actions

I made a similar post to this about a week ago.

Its called "The Great Debate: Ndamukong Suh, Can he, or Cant he? Got lots of good feedback on there.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/1/1332284/the-great-debate-ndamukong-suh-can

by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 9, 2010 12:40 AM CST reply actions

I'm gonna make a bold prediction

McClain will fall to us at 2a.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 9, 2010 1:37 AM CST reply actions

I had a man crush on him for awhile

But now i don’t even know if i want him. Hopefully we take a O-LINE guy at that pick.

by CPT.Caveman on Mar 9, 2010 2:27 AM CST up reply actions

Not a chance, but I'd be thrilled

I guess there’s a very, very remote chance that McClain could fall that far, but I doubt it. I think KC would stand a much better chance of getting Kindle, Weatherspoon, Dan Williams, Pouncey, little Earl, or Spikes. If not, I would be perfectly happy to see KC “settle” for Ricky Sapp, Kyle Wilson, Cody, or Tate.

It’s a mighty fine draft in which to have three such early picks, my friends.

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 9, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions

don't believe it for a second ... he's "on" something

blood thinners, maybe

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by upamtn on Mar 9, 2010 9:11 AM CST up reply actions

Nah....someone will trade up to get him if the Rams, Bucs, Lions, & Skins don't want him. It won't happen

This league has an addiction to D-lineman. LOOK AT US! we’ve been taking D-Line within the our 1st , 2nd, and 3rd round picks for the past 6 out of 8 years.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Mar 9, 2010 3:07 AM CST reply actions

ur dreamin

he was popular early and people sort of stopped talkiing about him. no way he falls to five.

by dwil2009 on Mar 9, 2010 3:54 AM CST reply actions

MC COY

Why would detriot take him and they got Matt Stafford???

I LOVE MY CHIEFS

by kcchiefsfan515 on Mar 9, 2010 3:59 AM CST reply actions

that

would be a waste of money Matt’s their guy Period!!!

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by kcchiefsfan515 on Mar 9, 2010 4:00 AM CST up reply actions

Detroit

Forgot they had a QB, you cant really blame them. That evening you can see the city burning in Canada.

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 4:09 AM CST up reply actions

you know what

their taking about gerald mccoy damn I feel stupid

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by kcchiefsfan515 on Mar 9, 2010 4:10 AM CST up reply actions

Don't worry...

your like the 100th person that has done that on this site.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 9, 2010 4:11 AM CST up reply actions

Apparently I was the 101st

I need to go to bed

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 4:12 AM CST up reply actions

damn

my bad on your post NW I should stop drinking when so much my girl had to correct me when I wrote it but it was too late I had already posted it

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by kcchiefsfan515 on Mar 9, 2010 4:12 AM CST reply actions

man there's no way

I can erase the replay because I don’t want everybody to think I’m dumb or something! lol

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by kcchiefsfan515 on Mar 9, 2010 4:14 AM CST reply actions

wow you are drunk huh

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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 9, 2010 9:03 AM CST up reply actions

You know....the hard part for an uneducated about college players guy like me is the controversy surrounding this guy.

He has all the accolades going for him. He is supposedly ‘the man". I’ve heard things about this guy I have not heard about anyone since Deion Sanders. Some say he may be the most important pickup for a team in the draft “ever”. I didn’t say that, just repeating.

Then on the other hand, there are those that say he has no real true place on a team with our defensive scheme. I honestly don’t understand enough about the 34 versus the 43 and why he would not fit this team. But I’ve read analogies comparing his usefulness in our 34 defensive scheme, to Jared Allens. That like Jared, he is a force to be reckoned with, but wouldn’t fit in here in KC.

What’s the deal? Which is true?

by krayfish on Mar 9, 2010 7:51 AM CST reply actions

I hear you man

I don’t watch college ball and I never played, so it can be tough to get a good read on this stuff. Alot of it I think is that most people will act like they know WTF they are talking about whereas you are admitting your own lack of knowledge lol…. I’ve seen you to be a good poster though.

I have a hard time believing that a good athlete with decent ‘football iq’ (*what the hell is that anyway?) can’t grow into a role, but what do I know…

Also it seems teams are too often labeled 3-4 or 4-3 teams when they really run hybrids, and switch it up — one will be their base. As I understand it, this is Crennel’s plan.

And last, just cause a player played 4 years in one system (or less), why all of a sudden there’s no chance they could learn something new over a 16 year career?

CNN = ABC = NBC = CBS = FOX = Chris Mortenson Journalism

by nayjevin on Mar 9, 2010 8:21 AM CST up reply actions

it's not a matter of "learn something new" as much as a matter of "physical characteristics and attributes"

a prototypical NT generally weighs about 350 and is strong as all get-out, though not necessarily FAST … has to able to handle 2 blockers at a time on most plays, sometimes more … Suh is strong but not by NFL NT standards, though he may be very fast and quick …

Jared Allen is very fast, very quick but would be smashed like play-dough if he were lined up at NT position and would leave much to be desired as DE on a 3-4 because his forte is rushing the passer, not occupying blockers and making tackles (he might, however, make a very good LB in a 3-4)

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by upamtn on Mar 9, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

good post

I’m guessing your side of the argument here is more right than mine. But here are the counters that I think could hold some truth too:

- superior leverage, footwork, awareness, jump off the ball, quickness can make up for a size detriment. (somewhat? completely?) as an example. IOW, the prototypical stats one might want in a position are an indicator, not an end all be all. those things which are harder to measure might make up for it, making a good ‘fit’

- scheming can make up for some too. for instance, the opposing center this week has a refrigerator perry body type, we need our big guy in, and we want to run so and so defense and stay in so and so playbook. next week the opposing center is smaller but quick, we need this guy, this scheme, these plays.

these two things together, if they make up for the ‘attributes’ could reasonably lead a coach to just want the best damn athletes he can find, and figure out how to use them as they come, no?

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by nayjevin on Mar 9, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions

nayjevin ... yes and very well said ... good comment!

there is (almost) always more than one way to look at things …

there's my way and there's the wrong way

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by upamtn on Mar 9, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions

Casey Hampton was maybe 310 coming out of college

And he’s been one of the best in the business since then. I don’t think Suh’s as far away as you think.

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 9, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions

Am I just wrong...

Or didn’t a guy by the name of Howie Long line up over center on a regular basis?

by 12t on Mar 9, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions

I vote 'No'

after watching Brad Thorson and Jeremiah Hatch completely take Suh out of the game when the Bugeaters played KU this year.

Man crush. Sherron.

by labbadabba on Mar 9, 2010 10:24 AM CST reply actions

that being said,

if he’s there, take him. By all means take him.

Man crush. Sherron.

by labbadabba on Mar 9, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions

Ku did do the best job of "containing" SUH this year and that game was just plain weird....

….KU didn’t have the best line but for some damn reason the Huskers couldn’t get fudging pressure. As a Husker fan it was extremely frusterating. NU’s secondary earned thier blackshirts that day for sure.

But there again, that was the one game that SUH was kept in check.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 9, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions

My Top 5 predictions (today's version):

1. Sam Bradford – QB – Oklahoma
2. Ndamukung Suh – DT – Nebraska
3. Gerald McCoy – DT – Oklahoma
4. Russell Okung – LT – Oklahoma State
5. Rolando McClain – ILB – Alabama
--
Whoa, just realized that is an All-Big 12 Top 4.

by Nick Britt on Mar 9, 2010 11:07 AM CST reply actions

I think you've got the top 4 right.

by kcsno56 on Mar 9, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions

Of course he could play it.

The question is whether or not he’s worth the 5 overall pick to play it. I could play NT. I wouldn’t be very good at it and I wouldn’t be worth the 5th pick.

by EyePod on Mar 9, 2010 11:21 AM CST reply actions

hmm.

enlightening.

Man crush. Sherron.

by labbadabba on Mar 9, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions

ummm

Suh won’t fall, if he does I don’t want him.

by Wildcats23 on Mar 9, 2010 12:41 PM CST reply actions

Why wouldn't you want a disruptive force like SUH? Especially with Crennel at the helm of the defense.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 9, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

If Suh doesn't go #1

He will go #2 to Detroit.

If he somehow he doesn’t go #2, he will for sure go #3.

The Bucs are his floor…unless somehow there are multiple trades between now and then or he gets hurt or something else enters in the equation.

He’s not making it to #5. This is an almost identical repeat post from one up here last week or the week before, and like I said then, for Chiefs fans, it’s a waste of time.

by kcsno56 on Mar 9, 2010 1:37 PM CST reply actions