Conflicting Details On Chris Chambers' Contract With The Chiefs
by Joel Thorman on Mar 8, 2010 8:42 PM CST
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PrintESPN's Adam Schefter reported today the Kansas City Chiefs had agreed to terms with WR Chris Chambers. The details, according to Schefter, were three years with a total value of $15 million.
NFL Network's Michael Lombardi has some slightly different numbers, according to NFL.com.
NFL Network insider Michael Lombardi reported Monday that Chambers' three-year deal is valued at $12 million, with nearly $6 million guaranteed.
The guaranteed numbers mesh. Schefter reported that number at $5.9 million.
What's also interesting is that Lombardi's website, National Football Post, is reporting the Schefter numbers.
I'm not quite sure what the exact numbers are but Lombardi has been spot-on with quite a few major reports out of Kansas City so I may defer to him on this one. That's about $1 million cheaper per year so kudos Scott Pioli if that's the case.
Yeah it may not seem like a lot of money but it averages out to $1 million per year which is more than all but eight Chiefs players make.
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yep
either way, they are paying him about what he made last season… he played well enough not to get a pay cut, I think.
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
I'd be surprised
to hear anything before tomorrow when Fargas is scheduled to visit.
My guess is that it is done... and he is a Chief.
There has not been any mention of him heading to any other place, like Wade Smith, and others have.
Go Chiefs!!!!
true
But really you don’t hear about any of the 30 somethings RB’s making the rounds.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
I care
Not that I was upset, but I wAs surprised at the 5 million per year number considering that is what Burleson and Walter received.
by TonyG88 on Mar 8, 2010 8:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Chambers is older
but he’s as good as those guys
You sometimes learn something everyday.
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden
He's as good as Burleson
I’d rather have Walters.
Still, it’s a fine contract for the Chiefs, whichever #’s are accurate. The guaranteed money is what people need to focus on.
Will he be here for 3 years? Chances are, in the NFL, no.
hes only making 5 or 6 garunteed
I really doubt he puts up the numbers to actually get the incentives
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
I could be mistaken
but I thought when Schefter announced it earlier he said it could be worth “up to” $15 mil
Bingo
the deal is for 12M-ish … with incentives based on production milestones increasing the value up towards 15M
by Detroit Buckets on Mar 8, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
Soooooo....
Either way he made a shit ton of money. Good for him.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 9:08 PM CST reply actions
Think he will keep up the level of play now that he got some money?
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
Who knows.
The guy has all the tools to be able to be Eddie Kennison version 2.0.
I doubt that Pioli and Haley would have wanted to keep him around if they thought that he was going to turn into a parasite after he got a contract. And, he gets to play SD twice a year. No doubt he’s looking forward to sticking it to them, and will definitely want to help take the division title from them.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
The one play
that stood out to me with Chris Chambers was that slant route against Pittsburgh in OT, remember that? If we get that player back than all we need is Bowe to step up and whichever draft pick to make an impact…
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
What does it matter?
We needed to re-sign him…and we did.
Since I don’t have to sign his paycheck…I could give a rat’s ass what he makes.
+1
Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.
I dont care what he makes either
But I do give a rats ass if he earns it.
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
by Pollard49 on Mar 8, 2010 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Very true
Unfortunately, a signed contract does not guarantee production of equal proportion.
Your idea...
So get on it. And good luck with that.
Ill hollar at Goodell later, too busy workin atm!
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
I believe schefter
Once again we need to stop being cheap and quit trying to save money our low payroll is rediculus. he deserves the money that schefter reported anyway
He deserves it for last year I agree...
All Im sayin is i hope he keeps it consistent. His history shows he can slip off once he gets paid. I just dont wanna be stuck with another vet who wont play for his check. Tired of that personally.
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
dude ... really? seriously?
you honestly think ANY of these guys DESERVE to make $1-10 MILLION to play a GAME?
they aren’t out fighting wars in Afghanistan, they aren’t chasing criminals who have guns, they aren’t saving lives in the back of an ambulance, they don’t tend to the ill in hospitals, they don’t put out fires and risk their lives in a smoke-filled building, and they don’t educate our children …
… they don’t bust their butts in hot, sweaty factories …
so tell me, just how is it that they DESERVE the kind of money they get? what all-important thing is it that they do that they should earn more in a day than soldiers, nurses, teachers, firefighters or cops do in a year? because honestly, I’m just not seeing it …
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
SUPER REC, +1,000,000
Completely agree… they make millions playing a childhood game. couldnt put it better.
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
ty Pollard
as a teacher myself it’s been a grip of mine for awhile … not Chambers personally, of course … and it goes to all sports AND most forms of entertainment: music, movies, etc … not the average band playing in some bar, but the big names who make bazillions off records and concerts, and the superstar actors who rake it in for every movie
it’s a societal issue: we value entertainment more than we value the things that we truly need (policemen, firemen, teachers, nurses, soldiers) or those who do the most work for the least wages (factory workers, the guys who haul trash and garbage for minimum wage, etc)
thanks for understanding
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I understand you point, also.
It’s a fucked up system…no doubt. Priorities are all out of whack, for sure.
However, people like you and I didn’t create the malfunction.
Oh man, no need.
Half of my moms side is workin for the city in one way or another, whether its a policeman/woman, firefighter teachers etc… They do the things we truly need like you said, if we didnt have those things, than where would we be…. I dont wanna know. And I for one would be making them a little more wealthy for their sacrifices and time.
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
Well Said!
Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 8, 2010 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
The Point Where People Go Off-Track On This Argument
Is that they start thinking that markets rewarding value is the same as markets rewarding merit. And markets don’t reward merit, except coincidentally…they’re value based. Football players are well-compensated because they have rare skill sets that we’re willing to pay a lot of money to watch because it brings us joy. Teachers don’t bring that kind of value, except to individual students (although I’d also argue that part of the reason they’re so poorly compensated is because the government runs education like it does everything else…badly).
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woah calm down
Dude i just want the chiefs to spend money like other teams out there and overpay someone i dont care if its a backup i want someone overpayed for once. i didnt say anything about afganistan
Swik, not a blast towards you by ANY means ... you're cool
… and so am I …
hell, I'm like THE coolest Dude on all of AP
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Ok, I'm bored so I'll play devil's advocate with you
Sure, I’m fine with these guys making that much money because that’s what they are able to command in a free market system. Now, I’d have to be crazy to argue that being a Wide Receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs is more important than being a teacher, doctor, soldier etc., but as no one has yet figured out a good way to charge money to watch elementary school math classes or colonoscopies, we’re just going to have to accept that it is more profitable.
We could pay professional football players teacher-level salaries, but then the team owners would just get even richer. Is being a team owner more important than being a teacher? Of course not, so we pay them teacher salaries too. So then where does the money go, because I’m not going to stop watching sports, and I’d wager that neither is upamtn. We could give it all to the government to redistribute to the people as they see fit, but at that point money is really only changing hands symbolically and we’ve either moved to a radically socialist or proto-communist society.
And hey, maybe that’s the answer, and it’s not football that’s the problem, it’s capitalism – but until someone else defends that statement, I’m going to go ahead and take the position that either of the aforementioned systems is untenable when compared to free market capitalism, and thus I’m prepared to live with Chris Chamber’s new contract hanging over my conscience.
Some of those words were too big and important for me...
so ill just give you this….. =-)
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
How about this...
Why don’t we pay players a reasonable wage? Then, maybe regular working people could once again afford to take their family to games once in awhile. Stadiums would be full again…and life would be good. Less “business” and a lot more “game” would work very well for me.
Owners pay the players…but the players make the owners money…and blah, blah, blah. Which came first….the chicken or the egg? Who knows? But, this I do know…It got out of hand a long time ago.
works for me, Scott ... cap the salaries, cap the profits ... anything over $X amount goes into some public fund
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
The only result of that
Would be for the owners to dissolve their teams and find something more profitable to do.
And the players would either find different careers or go and play in countries where their earnings aren’t seized through govt coercion.
by alakan81 on Mar 9, 2010 12:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
wow Hammer ... way to take one for the team!
although, I can definitely see a market for Professional Colonoscopies in some circles … twisted but yeah, I can see that …
the idea of “Proto-Socialism” does have an appeal … and I do think there are MAJOR issues with a purely Caplitalistic economy … which of course we do not have by any means (ie, ours is not a “pure” system)
the biggest fallacy in your argument is the very fact that we DON’T have a true “market economy” … everything is so hopelessly tied together that even those on fixed incomes are adversely affected by what Chambers and others earn make … until all that gets untangled, it’s never going to be a “pure” system
fun to debate, though
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
I disagree
While nobody is that much more important than you or me, they are more talented. So guys it comes down to supply and demand. When you are 1 of 1,000 people that are able to make it to the NFL which make hundreds of millions of dollars a year you my friend have what they want therefore you are paid to make plays and put people in the seats and sell jerseys and $8.00 beer.
Ask yourself if you were able to do what only the top .001 percent of the country could do at a high level, and were in high demand with people bidding for your services don’t you think you would be making millions also?
Total BS!
I hate it when people say that.
That is like saying: “That doctor is overpaid because he makes 250k a year and he loves his job.”
Deserve: “To have earned or merited; to be worthy to have; To reward, to give in return for service”
They do deserve that paycheck. The amount is so much because there are not a lot of people that can do what they do. This is not a communist country where everyone gets paid the same amount. Its no difference from movie stars, bands, CEOs, doctors, etc.
The fact they love their jobs and that their job is a game has nothing to do with anything. If they don’t deserve the money the owners wouldn’t pay it. They have worked their asses off and have the unique physical gifts. They get paid for a unique service they provide.
The reason policemen, firemen, teachers, etc. don’t make that much is because they are easily replaceable. Its the same reason the guy at Burger King makes $7 an hour instead of 5 million.
I love how...
people are talking about how pro football players don’t deserve their salaries on a website where hundreds of people visit every day to talk about football players. If you want to know why Chris Chambers commands his salary…. look in the mirror.
OU SUCKS!!!!!!
by TexasFight83 on Mar 9, 2010 2:16 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
where do u recommend that all of the money that is made in the NFL goes then if the players shouldnt make that much? i mean im going into teaching too but i dont think it should go to teachers that didnt work for it lol
And I dont think it is so much
make or break em S-dub, but cmon man, Julius Peppers, past his prime or real close to it, 90 million?!?!?! cant take a couple mill off of that? lol
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
yea obviously i wouldnt want to pay julious peppers that much but u know what i mean, i want to see that we are trying to compete lol
I agree on that for sure, i hear ya. time for this team to come back to relevance again
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
Pollard ... some years ago when ARod signed that insane contract with the Yankees for what, $250 Mil, I did some fast math ...
… and figured out that was roughly the salary of 100 teachers for 100 years (at a low rate of $25k/year)
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
i wonder if his experience
was used in signing him. I think its a great sign. He has the skill to play plus he is a veteran with playoff experience. He will on the field and an asset in the locker room
Great moments are born from great opportunity.
Unless you are in the Chiefs' front office. Does it really matter?
We got our only long ball receiver back for a good chunk of money. Great signing. Glad that we go Chris Chambers back.
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