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OL Ryan Lilja Offers Possible Great Addition to Chiefs

With the Chiefs vast amount of needs along the offensive line and with even last year's gems like Wade Smith visiting other teams, it's no secret that every fan wants the Chiefs to address the position in this year's off-season. Specifically, many draftniks speak of the Chiefs using multiple picks in the draft along their offensive line throughout the seven rounds and that's not a bad idea. Still, expecting rookies to be able to come in and play at a high level is unlikely - otherwise, last year's choice of Colin Brown would have provided some results.

So here's hoping that some of those answers also come through free agency. Some offensive linemen like offensive tackle Tony Pashos have already signed, taking those possibilities out of contention. But one new name entered the fray this afternoon with a surprise release of Ryan Lilja by the Colts.

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Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk noted the following:
Colts center Jeff Saturday disagreed with President Bill Polian's suggestion that the team's offensive line struggled in the Super Bowl. Polian is the one that makes personnel decisions, though, and he spoke loud and clear by releasing starting guard Ryan Lilja Monday, according to Alex Marvez of Fox. Lilja was due a $1.73 million bonus soon, but the move is still surprising. He started every game for the Colts last season and is only 28 years old.


Of course, Lilja is a stronger pass blocker than run blocker, as he was part of a fantastic pass blocking line that kept Peyton Manning mostly upright for the last few years. But the Colts were dead last in the NFL this season in rushing yards, and that might not play out well with Kansas City's expected reliance on Jamaal Charles (and hopefully Thomas Jones). But it takes five to make these things happen and the scouting reports aren't all bad.

With some current pro scouts noting Lilja's intelligence, quickness, agility and body control that makes him able to get to the second level, Lilja could possibly make a great addition to a line in need like the Chiefs. After all, it's not that the Chiefs are abandoning the passing game at all. Plus, Lilja is only 28 and has championship experience. There are some health questions after Lilja missed the 2008 season with knee issues, but after starting all of 2009, it seems those problems are in the past.

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that this guy isn’t our “upgrade” on the o-line

Chiefs are on the up and up

by Chiefs1 on Mar 8, 2010 4:51 PM CST reply actions  

Considering...

…that our RG going into last season was Goff, I’d say he’d be an upgrade haha.

by ThrowinBowes on Mar 8, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

We can bring in 22 guys from off the street and win more games :)

C, RG, RT all need upgrading and Lilja is far better than Wade could ever be.

All those in favor of signing Lilja what say you?

I say Yea!

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Mar 9, 2010 2:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Sign him up!

More championship experiance than anyone on our line, he would be an awesome mentor for Brown. Albert, Waters, O’Call, Lilja, Brown and whatever drafted/FA center we can sign (Mawae) we could turn this line around overnight.

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

Interesting

I know that during the playoffs there was some things said about the Offensive line,
But maybe it was more the running game scheme itself

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

He’s a poor run blocker, but with Jamaal’s skill set, the Tackles are far more important than the Guards, and we are set at Tackle.

by dablueguy on Mar 8, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

He has good experience now and trust me he will have suitors which will run up his price tag!

by jrpjr421 on Mar 8, 2010 4:54 PM CST reply actions  

He started for the Colts

I think he’s worth a look.

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 4:54 PM CST reply actions  

exactly, his experience alone makes him worthy of a signing

although thanks to our buddy chan up in buffalo, who KNOWS what it will cost to pay lilja considering they just gave some 34 year old OL a 3 year 9 mil dollar deal.

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 8, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

i would think lilja would want to come to kc

i’d rather be in kc than buffalo

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I want him

Make it happen. Any news on TJ?

by SoCalChief17 on Mar 8, 2010 4:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Something should come out in the next hour about TJ

Either that he is off to another place, or that we signed him.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Mar 8, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

He's a great player and would fit in well.

Am I the only one that thinks that the Colts were running the ball extremely well in the SB and should have done it more?

by Ray Brown on Mar 8, 2010 4:57 PM CST reply actions  

yeah actually I felt pre super bowl that an addai heavy run plan would work....they just stopped using it after the big run

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 8, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

yeh

i think there will be a home discount…..dick did siign him to our practice squad……His family lives here and hes getting married in july. His fiances family is from here too…..i think if pioli makes him an offer he would happily accept it

by cassel4prez on Mar 8, 2010 5:01 PM CST reply actions  

Zone blocking

Does Indy use the Zone block and are moving away from it.
Seems on the Indy site that the problem was Tackles not interior lineman.
Saturday is pissed too :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 5:04 PM CST reply actions  

THOMAS JONES just signed 4 year 20 million dollar contract!!

MAYBE………..I WISH………………..TIRED OF WAITING!!

by jrpjr421 on Mar 8, 2010 5:04 PM CST reply actions  

Are you wishing or telling?

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

not funny!

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

That right there

FLAG!!

You sometimes learn something everyday.

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Mar 8, 2010 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes he played every game this year, but he was really slowed by the injury. I’d rather have Wade Smith.

by wildcatmo on Mar 8, 2010 5:05 PM CST reply actions  

if hes so good then why did the colts cut him?

You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday

Cassel can lead us.

by BEEf_CHIEF on Mar 8, 2010 5:05 PM CST reply actions  

Pollian wants to upgrade the o-line

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

mad at their o-line for the SB performance

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

From Stampede Blues site

it seems like they want to beef up there O line (move away from the ZB scheme) and Lilja wasn’t what they were looking for

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 8, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Wade Smith or Ryan Lilja? take your pick

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Lilja

it’s like saying backup or starter take your pick..

Lilja- Started for Super Bowl team twice, Several seasons of full time starting

Smith- versatile backup for KC

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 8, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

i know

just like setting up answers i agree with :)

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry if I came off as offensive I didn't mean to

I’d prefer to have both because Wade Smith allows us to carry less O lineman on the roster because of his versatility

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 8, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Niswanger is going to have to do that

C/G swing guy

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

but he can't swing T like Smith can

but I guess I’d be happy with Niswanger in that role

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 8, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

just saying that I would like Lilja

Smith would be great as a utility backup, but he may get a chance to start somewhere else

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

ZB scheme coming to KC

might as well sign him up!

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

he could block for sproles again...oh wait......damnit

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 5:09 PM CST reply actions  

they have Clary at RT, before he was hurt

its a kstate get together in sd

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Did this article say....

that “expecting a rookie to come in and play well is not likely”…..hmmmmm

by KCinAZ on Mar 8, 2010 5:10 PM CST reply actions  

It does make you wonder about his health....

…Not that a mill and a half isn’t alot of money but it is pretty cheap for an 0-lineman who started every game for you on your way to the Superbowl.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 8, 2010 5:10 PM CST reply actions  

The Colts also have some young studs

Mike Pollack from Arizona St. and Steve Justice from Wake Forest (I think…if not then West Virginia).

The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones

by kc_radrh8r on Mar 8, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Here is the write-up

stampede blue

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 5:11 PM CST reply actions  

wrong link, but it's on their home page...

Colt’s fans are kinda upset about his departure.

Prediction: With the #5 pick, the Kansas City Chiefs take someone we've never freakin` heard of...

by ChiefDog on Mar 8, 2010 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

sorry it was the link I was looking for

seems some think Pollian was wrong to let him go

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

is Lilja a RG or LG

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 5:12 PM CST reply actions  

OK gotcha colts wanna upgrade

well if we think he can still play then I say get hiM! i remember he originally wanted to play here and he said it would be a dream come true to play for his home town. but i remember we cut him cuz our line was stacked at the time

You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday

Cassel can lead us.

by BEEf_CHIEF on Mar 8, 2010 5:15 PM CST reply actions  

Mr. Pioli.

Sign him. Today.

That is all.

by JacinB on Mar 8, 2010 5:17 PM CST reply actions  

Carry on.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 8, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

It's worth a look.

KC should snatch up about every O lineman that can be had at a bargain right now, and sort through them in training camp. At 28 years old, Lilija could be a vital addition to this team.

My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:

"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley

by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 5:21 PM CST reply actions  

Agree

Lilija would be a great asset to our O-Line.

I’d love to see us look like this -
LT: #1 or #2 Draft Pick
LG: Albert
C: Waters
RG: Lilja
RT: O’Calligan

And let everyone (Brown, Niswanger, Wade) fight it out to be #1 backup at their best position.

by TXChiefan on Mar 8, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would you move Albert to L..... oh nevermind.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 8, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

No...

Albert should stay at LT.

LT – Albert, Beadles (OT/G, Utah, 5th)
LG – Lilja, Byers (G/C, USC, 5th)
C – Mawae, Byers
RG – Waters, Ducasse (G, UMass, 3rd)
RT – O’Callaghan, C Brown

Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 8, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Potential Line...

Albert
Beadles
Byers
Ducasse
C Brown

Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 8, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

What if..

Smith came back to KC and KC signed Lilja. The line could look like:

Albert/Lilja/Waters/Smith/O’Cally – there is a lot of veteran experience on that interior line.

by DizzyKC on Mar 8, 2010 5:32 PM CST reply actions  

#5 pick for defense

with Brown and a drafted Center learning their new positions! Im all for it

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

This is the first guy I would be okay reaching a little bit for

I don’t want them to drastically overpay, but if they have to reach a little bit I’d be okay with that. It would clear up another early draft pick for more play makers.

Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"

by KCporkchop on Mar 8, 2010 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

And more Kool-Aid!

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 8, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah! Pick your poison!

You sometimes learn something everyday.

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Mar 8, 2010 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

kabrink, you are a sick, sick individual and should seek help ...

the krayfish hospital for the mentally disturbed is now accepting applications from those seeking to maintain a healthy lifestyle based on koolaid and bacon ice cream ...

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

don't MAKE me get violent here.

You sometimes learn something everyday.

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Mar 8, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

hey YOU started it, buddy

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

look at the picture above at the top right

You need to drink some of the Island Twists flavor. It contains THC to help you calm down.

You sometimes learn something everyday.

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Mar 8, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

tropical island THC! dude I am THERE!

big sloppy wet kiss RIGHT on the nose

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

whoa

I’m outta here

You sometimes learn something everyday.

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Mar 9, 2010 8:05 AM CST up reply actions  

"Hello Krayfish Mental?"

operator"Yes."
“Can I speak to a Doctor please?”
operator " I’m sorry all the doctors are tied up but one of the inmates would be more than happy to speak to you"

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Mar 16, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

I honestly think if Pioli picked up the phone and offered a slight raise over Lilja’s terminated 4 year contract he’d take it..

He expressed a desire to play for his hometown when we first nabbed him..

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 8, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep I think this one gets done nice and tidy like..... assuming Pioli is interested.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 8, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Id be kind of disappointed if he wasn't

when you have a super bowl caliber player that plays in a position of need that WANTS to play for you, I don’t know how you pass that up..

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 8, 2010 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Lilja = Zone Blocking Guard

Ryan would be a great pickup. Only 28 years old, SB experience. Highly trained in the scheme the Chiefs have chosen. Local boy.

Get ’er done, Don Pioli.

by bbear200 on Mar 8, 2010 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

adds depth

28 years old. seems to fit

by dwil2009 on Mar 8, 2010 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

couple questions

would he fit a zone blocking scheme and don’t you think that their poor rushing stats last year might have something to do with the fact that they have possibly the best qb history

by E.C. on Mar 8, 2010 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

nice

The Colts generally get their way running the ball too. It’s just Manning is so good at QB they prefer to pass.. However in playoffs you could see the line struggling in run blocking, until the super bowl (I’d attribute more of that to their LT than Lilja).

He played a ZB in Indy right?

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 8, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Make no mistake Colts linemen are there for one purpose only, to protect Manning.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 8, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

good

bring him in for the sole purpose of protecting the 2nd most sacked QB last year in Cassel. He would only compliment a line that was getting better towards the end of last season.

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

and Colts linemen are fined for allowing so much as a hangnail ...

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Add Lilja and Wade

Then keep Waters and move Albert back to guard

That gives KC 4 good starters at guard

Good to have depth

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Mar 8, 2010 5:48 PM CST reply actions  

its great to have depth

something he havent had in a while!

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

WarWolf ... awesome idea!

an All Guard OLine!!

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

if we signed Lilja

every single mock draft person that has us taking OL with the 5th will have to redo their mocks, so i say do it Pioli, that way they have to do some work!

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 5:49 PM CST reply actions  

did i miss something

whats with all the love for wade smith? (serious question)

by dwil2009 on Mar 8, 2010 6:29 PM CST reply actions  

Did you watch him play last season

He played pretty well in a spot fill position.. He’d be a solid backup

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 8, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

can move around on the line...but when he stepped in last year at RG, he really did a great job

its why hes now on his 4th free agent visit.

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 8, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I like it,

Lilja is better than anything we have at that position, he’d upgrade that side, especially in the passing game. Is Weigman still around? If Mawae doesn’t pan out I’d go for him. Then next year draft Chris O’Dowd at C.

Thomas Jones and the Lombardi, DO IT!

by shotty on Mar 8, 2010 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

definitely would be the first signing from elsewhere that would really please the fans.

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 8, 2010 6:51 PM CST reply actions  

other than thomas jones of course...both would be wonderful announced at the same time

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 8, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

yes wonderful announcement sometime tonight!

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 8, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Couple things to consider.

First, I’d say the problem wasn’t so much with O-Line in Indy. More the fact that New Orleans played it RIGHT and didn’t go vanilla out of fear of Manning. Go ahead and burn us a couple times. We’re gonna burn you right back by blitzing without fear. And that’s what happened.

Second, it’s no accident that Indy’s been good, year in and year out. They built that line before Manning arrived, and they’ve given it attention right along. This is also a very very good year to pick up quality linemen in the mid-late rounds, so this could be viewed as Polian’s clearing the decks to continue his plan, while all the instant-gratification types get their fill in FA, while he stocks up in the draft.

by hmills110 on Mar 8, 2010 7:01 PM CST reply actions  

This isn't a reason for KC to NOT be interested in FA linemen.

They’re not set, yet, so the more looks they get, the more likely they hit on something good. Lilja, Smith, ….

by hmills110 on Mar 8, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

and IF they sign Lilja it provides depth if not a starter ... and a good vet who can help bring along any draft pick(s) they sign later on

sounds to me like Lilja is a win-win thing if they do get him … and if we get Smith back as well, that makes it all that much better depthwise and experience wise

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I would love to welcome lilja back to the chiefs for a second time

It has pissed me off to see him starting all these years since he was plucked from our practice squad in 2004

Season Ticket Holder Sec. 317 Row 19 seats 12 and 13

I cant wait to see the NEW ARROWHEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chiefs will be competing for a division title in 2010

by Bleedzredngold on Mar 8, 2010 7:10 PM CST reply actions  

I am ambivalent about Lilja

His best fit is probably at LG and I don’t see him as an upgrade over Brian Waters. Our big need is at RG. Right now our RGs consist of Ndukwe and Colin Brown. We lost Alleman, let Goff go, and it doesn’t look like we are making any effort to re-sign Wade Smith.

Although I like the potential of both Ndukwe and Brown, Ndukwe hardly played last year and Brown was on IR all season.

Maybe this will be a target in the Draft (Ducasse, perhaps), but I think REX HADNOT is definitely worth a look.

by Nick Britt on Mar 8, 2010 7:21 PM CST reply actions  

Nick, I don't think any of us at AP can say for sure that there's no effort into resigning Smith

just because the guy is window shopping doesn’t mean he doesn’t have an offer already … he’s an UFA so let him look around … he and Pioli may already have talked at length (and I’d be shocked if they hadn’t)

it’s early yet … very, very early

and I like the idea of adding Lilja

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by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

same exact

pre-planned strategy that Pioli and Chambers had.

You sometimes learn something everyday.

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by kabrink on Mar 8, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

because Pioli loves us so very much and knows we need SOMETHING to blog about

Pioli is a GENIUS

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by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

and yeah

we should definitely sign this guy

You sometimes learn something everyday.

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by kabrink on Mar 8, 2010 7:49 PM CST reply actions  

Colin Brown in what time he played sucked on ice...

…why is he even mentioned, I mean geez, Javaris Wiliams I guess is the answer at RB too.

by FrankPitts on Mar 8, 2010 8:04 PM CST reply actions  

?

really? you saw enough of either of them to form a definitive opinion?

no way to tell at this point… both probably do have futures with the team, though

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB

by stagdsp on Mar 8, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Colin Brown was injured and subsequently had surgery ... we don't know yet how well he's recovered, but ...

… he was added last year for a reason: he’s young and has talent and Haley/Pioli like the guy … give him a chance when he’s healthy, he COULd be a damn good part of the team for a long time to come

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by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

you want to mud wrestle him, doncha

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by upamtn on Mar 8, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Gillooly?

You sometimes learn something everyday.

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
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by kabrink on Mar 8, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

from adam teicher with the kansas city chiefs blog for ...?

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I could be mistaken, but...

wasn’t Lilja being touted as a potential replacement for Weigmann at center before he was stolen off of our practice squad?

Maybe he could still fulfill the center position?

by NW on Mar 8, 2010 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

Not excited

I guess I am different than most on here. I really don’t get too excited about signing players that other teams cut. The teams that are cutting players know the players they are getting rid of are not good enough for them to get any compensation picks, nor do they feel they are good enough to start for them.

I know whoever we sign will probably start for us, but it just doesn’t look good to me, when they get cut and we pick them up. I feel like we are scavengers going for everybody’s leftovers.

by dahd11 on Mar 8, 2010 8:42 PM CST reply actions  

i understand how you feel

but, remember, it’s not always about being “good enough”… players get released all the time for money and other reasons… and go on to be VERY successful on other teams.

if you ignore all players released by other teams… you’ll miss out on 1/3 of the ways to acquire talent… and that’d be a huge mistake.

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB

by stagdsp on Mar 8, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

It's because AP is so good at giving out info

That we feel that every signee is counted on to be a pro-bowler because they are talked about on here.

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No reason we can't have Smith and Lilja.

I think Chambers and Smith were just testing the market. Haley is very high in Wade Smith, and I think if he isn’t offered an outragous amount of money, we will retain him. His versatility is important. I see Albert breaking out this season, now he has had to use technique for a season, and not just his weight. Barry Richardson has always showed potential, and there is still a chance he can be productive, with good coaching. We did tender him (or sign him, I can’t remember) O’Callahan is the best RT we have had in 5 years (I know that isn’t saying much, but there is hope there), Nkuywe (spelling?) filled in pretty good at RT, and is likely a pretty good guard. Brown is a monster, but just needed to work on technique, and he may be alot better this season. Niswanger may be a good guard, either as a backup, or even starter, and move Smith or Waters to Center. Remember, we had alot of changes on the O-line last season, and it took time to get some continuity, as well as , change to the zone blocking scheme. When they did get continuity, and begin to learn the system, Cassel was only sacked 4 times, the last 6 games, after being mauled all season, and we were 2nd in the league in rushing, over that period. Our O-line is years ahead of our D-Line, especially with a desperate need for a NT, who would make Jackson and Dorsey better. I think the O-line has gone from an emergany situation, to just needing to insure we have the right people, in the right place, and we can draft somebody at 2b, or in the 3rd, and maybe not as early as we thought. We can deal with our Defensive front 7, and of course ERIC BERRY!!!!!!!

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by Racyman on Mar 8, 2010 10:19 PM CST reply actions  

a pretty good one

1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 8, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

A journeyman?

We signed him as a UDFA I believe, and he got snagged on waivers before he could hit our PS. Then played for the Colts. He’s only really played for one team. Maybe he turns into one in time, but it’s way too early to be calling him that.

by Archyrr on Mar 8, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

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