Thomas Jones Coming To Kansas City Today
by Joel Thorman on Mar 8, 2010 7:52 AM CST
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If you haven't heard by now -- and I'd be shocked if you haven't -- the Kansas City Chiefs are hosting former New York Jets RB Thomas Jones on a visit today. The Chiefs brass hasn't been shy about saying some help for Jamaal Charles is a priority this offseason.
This morning Josh Looney of KCChiefs.com laid out some numbers that indicate how much of a priority that is. All the Chiefs reserve running backs -- Kolby Smith, Tim Castille, Jackie Battle, Kestahn Moore and Javarris Williams -- combined for 42 carries in 2009.
If Jones fits the bill, he appears to be the big, strong, bruising back that the Chiefs have been looking for.
We talked about his visit all weekend. If you weren't glued to your computer screen this weekend, then make the jump and check out what we did all weekend as Jones was the biggest focus for the majority of the weekend.
Jets RB Thomas Jones Might Make Sense For The Chiefs
Here are a few reasons I think Jones could be intriguing for the Chiefs:
- Durability: Over the last five years, he's had at least 290 carries and at least 1,100 yards.
- Still has it: He had a career high 1,402 rushing yards last season.
- Above the LJ-line: He's averaged at least 4.0 yards per carry in six of the last seven year.
First Reports Surface That The Chiefs Are Interested In Jones
The report said the Chiefs are expressing interest.
All Quiet On The Thomas Jones Front
Jones wasn't signed by Saturday morning and we hadn't heard anything more about the Chiefs interest so I wonder what's going on.
An hour later....
Thomas Jones Visiting The Chiefs On Monday
We've got the date nailed down.
Charles Approves Of Bringing Jones In
810 WHB caught up with Charles on Saturday night and he said he would have no problem with the Chiefs bringing in Jones.
Jones Fits The Mold Of The Chiefs Right 53
I look into why Jones is part of the 'right 53'.
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I like it...
I rather have him then Fargas, but I would also like the Chiefs to get a RB in round 5. I know people do not think KC would get Blount from Oregon b/c of character issues, but I disagree… I still think they wouuld get him if he is available. That was the toughest, meanest runningback at the Senior Bowl.
Man crush on Eric Berry.
i like that he is coming here
1400 yards 14 TD’s last year, he could help us out significantly. Hopefully he can show a thing or two to J. Williams to help him out along the way!
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
A perfect complementary back for Charles
With Charles and Jones both healthy, the offense can feature a homerun-hitting back and a reliable back, both in rotation and possibly sometimes in the same formation (splitback sets, for example). Add in another speedy back in the late rounds of the draft, or possibly another FA (Fargas) or UDFA (Brandon West of WMU or Deji Karimof So. Illinois) so that if Charles gets nicked up, the offense can keep the same look, even if it had to emphasize Jones a little more.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
Do this, not Huggie Jr.
That is all.
"The way you perform make them feel about you different"
-Emmitt Smith
I Love This Play, Now Ink Him!
Who would have a stronger backfield… Bring T Rich With Ya! lol… He needs to retire as a Chief anyways…
June cuts may bring some surprises.
"The way you perform make them feel about you different"
-Emmitt Smith
Well they weren't amazing but,
Didn’t Charles run insanely behind that O-line in the 4th quarter of the season? I could have sworn he finished with a 200+ game against the Broncos in the final game. That’s the same line you are drilling. Could they upgrade? Oh yeah… but it’s not like they didn’t start to gel together at the end of the season.
Man crush on Eric Berry.
Charles is a different kind of runner...
He doesn’t need big holes blown open for him as he can create his own space whereas Jones is not nearly as quick and is more of a straight line runner who needs holes to run through.
Did you just copy paste that from another Jones article?
I swear I read those exact words from you earlier.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
O-line should be built thru the draft... or trade pick 2a to Bal for Gaither
Maybe Mawae, but do you remember Mike Goff?
We have twice as many picks in the first three rounds this year
I’ll be very surprised if we don’t grab an interior OL prospect with at least one of the first four picks.
Predictions:
This year will be better
I say we get....
TJ, Marshall, and Chambers signed… and spend everything else and draft shoring lines and D up… my 2 cents but damn we would be strong…. draft is deep so I’m not concerned the way SP can pick talent!
I say go for it!
Were probably gonna reach anyways… I may be off base as I’m a fan not an x and o guy but i guess Im of the mentality that a guaranteed superstar is better than a maybe… At the end of the day, I’m sure the Chiefs will do what’s best for us as a team and I’m just excited to see us in action next year…. can’t come soon enough…lol
I guess i'm agreeing with your other post....
I think we were starting to gel towards the end and i don’t think our lines or our team is half as bad as all the naysayers are making them out to be. I think we are a solid team and just need time to play together. Therefore, get us the offense to get it done and work the rest on lines, etc… I do think an NT is paramount as well though…
Couple of responses to these:
I may be off base as I’m a fan not an x and o guy but i guess Im of the mentality that a guaranteed superstar is better than a maybe
A guaranteed superstar doesn’t guarantee anything, especially when a lot of baggage and a “me first” mentality is involved. TO anyone? Larry Johnson? This guy is going to cause problems within the locker room. He’s a distraction and very close to being an all out cancer. Coming to a 4-12 team is not going to calm him down any.
At the end of the day, I’m sure the Chiefs will do what’s best for us as a team and I’m just excited to see us in action next year
Which is what Pioli is doing. He’s keeping our draft picks and not trading for guys. He has a philosophy on how to build a team, and it’s not through free agents and trades. Patience man. I have a feeling that this team is going to be as different as night and day come August.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
hear, hear! well said!! jolly right!!!
and stuff like that there …
He’s keeping our draft picks and not trading for guys
… unlike what he did with the 2nd round pick a year ago, right? (you know I hadda say it)
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
I knew that was coming...
But come on man. It got us a real, proven NFL franchise QB when Tyler Freaking Thigpen looked like the best Chiefs QB. Oh, yeah, and Vrabel got thrown in too.
I don’t expect Pioli to make trades like that often, if never again.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
Wow
Cassel is a proven NFL franchise QB? That’s news to me.
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
yes he is
no one said a franchise QB has to be HoF calibure. all they need to do is have the ability to carry a team and cassel has proven he can do that. albit he didn’t do it consitantly last year, but you name me one QB taken in the first last year that did better then him.
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
Wasn't there only 2?
And one of them went to the AFC Championship game….so that’s pretty good
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
But he did it on the back of the league's best defense and running game.
Sanchez was not all that impressive. A better QB might have pushed them into the Super Bowl.
Besides, do you really think that Sanchez would have done any better than Cassel if we would have drafted him?
Sanchez threw 12 TDs to his 20 INTs, had a 53.8% accuracy, and 2,444 yards. 63.0 QB rating
Cassel threw 16 TDs, 16 INTs, had a 55% accuracy and 2,929 yards. 69.9 QB rating.
Sanchez had one of the better O lines in the league and a great backfield… and like I said made it to the AFC CG because of a great D.
Cassel had an O line made of jello, WRs that almost set an NFL record for drops and a broken backfield until Charles emerged. And he still had better stats than Sanchez.
So yeah, Cassel is a proven NFL franchise QB. Get him a better line and receivers and I wouldn’t doubt that trading a 2nd for him will eventually look like one of the best trades in Chiefs history.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Bullshit...
You just said….Cassel 69.9 QB rating…16 TD 16 INT thoes aren’t franchise QB numbers..Cassel had a well below average season….sorry
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Also Sanchez should have been playing at USC
last year….he shouldn’t even be a rookie until this year…so yeah the guy probably has a brighter future than Cassel.
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
so what. what's that got to do about anything
sanchez made the dession to come out early and he has to live with it. what could have beens don’t count.
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
Now THAT'S bullshit.
If Sanchez wasn’t ready to come out of college then he wouldn’t have. And he sure as hell wouldn’t have been a top 5 pick.
That sir, is complete an utter bullshit.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
He was ready...
He took his team to the AFC Championship game….no he didn’t look great but what QB’s do their rookie year especially after leaving school early….it isn’t bullshit….
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
the same argument could be said about cassel
since last year was basically he’s rookie year. look at his stats.
21 TDs/11 Ints/63.4%/3693 Yds/89.4 QBR
that’s a lot better then sanchez did his first year starting. if you use the typical argument that NE has more talent, well so does NY.
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
Soooooooo....
Which is it? Was he ready or did he need another year? You’re posts aren’t really matching up here. First you say he shouldn’t have been a rookie until this year, so he gets a pass for his rookie year… and then you say that he was ready?
Look man. Cassel was a top 10 QB in 2008 with the Patriots. He came to a new city, a new system, and a new team (that was really, really bad) and performed on a level that was about average.
Why are people all bent out of shape about Matt? Whether you want to admit it or not, he’s proven that he can be a top 10 QB when he has weapons in place to help him. Even with sub par WRs and O line, he still performed decently. How many 4th quarter drives did he make to keep us in/win a game? 3? 4? Cassel’s going to be fine. There’s no doubt that with a line like NYJ had and receivers like NE, Cassel will excel. He did it once before.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Shouldn't have been a rookie if he would have finished school...
That’s all I’m saying….he had a year left at USC…what part of that don’t you get?
Was he ready? He didn’t have the best numbers but he was a rookie….would he have had a better rookie year if he had another year under his belt at USC…i gotta believe so….
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
again we didn't say a franchise QB
had to have HoF numbers.
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
So a franchise QB can have below average numbers?
I guess we have different idead of what a franchise QB…..do you believe there are 26 franchise QB’s in the league?
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
no i don't
i believe a francise QB is someone that can lead their team for years to come. that doesn’t mean that they have outragious stats, just they are good enough to lead their team to vicotry. i believe cassel is a francise QB. i believe that people put way too much of the blame of last years offensive issues then he deserves. do i think he’ll ever be a drew brees or payton manning? hell no but i do believe he is a lot better then people give him credit for. he proved in NE that if given talent he can win games. he proved to us he an take a physical and mental beating. to me that’s the makings of a francise QB
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
How about you give me a list of the franchise QB's in the league....
If you’d be so inclined…
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
all I can say is ...
I’m so delighted to see that I got y’all started on that one {huge grin}
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
I'm sorry.
Is there something you don’t understand about O line made of Jello and receivers that can’t catch?
By your logic then everyone in NY should be freaking out right now because they spent a first rounder on a guy that didn’t have a great first year… in spite of having a really good team all around him.
Feel free to look at guys like Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman. I guess they weren’t/aren’t franchise QBs either.
Sorry.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
thanks for the back up red
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
I respect your opinions and what your saying but...
You know, I just have a feeling Marshall doesn’t have to be a cancer, he’s just unhappy in my opinion. He is a high profile player which will always bring drama but I believe if there is a coaching staff that could keep him under control, it would be ours. You structure his contract to deal with his “attitude”…
I also agree this team is gonna be bonkers come august and I can’t wait to root for it. I am just of the flavor you have to score points to win. Doesn’t matter how great our D is if we can’t put up points….
true but
“Defense wins championships” is a line that keeps coming back to me
Just ask the Colts
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 8, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
Its so hard to beleive that when....
The colts as an example have an OK defense but thier offense is what gets it done… how many games were the Colts behind and the offense pulled it off for them this year… They did make that big 4th down stop though against the patriots…
i think the line is
“Defense wins chamionships” not “Defense wins every game”
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
I don't know.
We just got rid of the last of our problem players, and the team really started to gel after LJ was released. Even adding the chance of another headache right now wouldn’t be smart. Maybe in a few years when the team operates like one unit we can take the chance on brining in a head case and changing them, but we need some success and more discipline in place before we take that chance.
Plus, it would take a first rounder to get him… not gonna happen. I’d be totally pissed.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
I guess im just optomistic....
I say you do what it takes to make it happen. I will agree I’m glad we didn’t get on that spending spree at the beginning and overpay for one of those guys. I like SP’s calm, cool, and collective way.
I think Marshall is worth a first but that’s just me. I agree we have a lot of places to shore up so I won’t be dissapointed in whatever we do.
Trade our 1st for Denvers 1st and Marshall...
They are looking to move up as I understand it…
No to Marshall, I've give up a 3rd rd pick for him, but that's it.
If they sign Thomas Jones to go with Charles, I think they will adress the O-line and become a more run-based offence this year. Bowe, and Chambers are both decent #2 receivers.
yeah but we know that they need to address the OLine regardless
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Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Oh noes.
We can’t have 2 TJs. That would be too confusing. If this gets done I petition that Tyson Jackson will forever be known as T-Jax. Anyone that calls him TJ will be beaten, tarred, feathered and have to spend every Sunday during the football season in stocks. Yea or nay?
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 8:32 AM CST reply actions
Say those names aloud....
Now say T-Jax. It’s not the same. T-Jax reminds me of a fighter in Mortal Kombat. T-Jo makes me want to record something on TV.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
I thought T-Jax was a species of dinosaur ... you know, Jurassic Park and all
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Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Oh Lord!
No more Brandon/Brandens/Bradens/Brendans/Brennans!
Can we find anyone good without one of those names please….I’M SO CONFUSED!!!!!!!!
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 8, 2010 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
I like this.
Jones would be a good addition. He was one of my favorite RBs in the league. I like his style. Very LJ in his prime-ish. this is the kind of runner Haley was expecting to have when he arrived here.
Let’s get him signed and upgrade this OL. KC’s offense should be something to be feared in 2010.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 8:36 AM CST reply actions
We needed a NT 3 years ago?
And 3 years ago I don’t think anyone was complaining about our safeties. And Carl did draft Albert. I’m just saying….
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
Didn't need a NT 3 years ago since we weren't running a 4-3 back then
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 8, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
You're like that know-it-all kid that always shouts out answers in class ;-)
I’m gonna steal your milk money.
Uh, yeah… I know that we ran a 4-3 way back when. I’m trying to get imur#1fan to think about/add substance to his post.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
ok...but I messed that comment up anyway...should've read:
“since we weren’t running a 3-4 back then…
Sorry, wasn’t trying to shame anyone, just wanted to make sure we’re talking apples to apples if you know what I mean…lol
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 8, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
lol
It’s cool man, I’m just teasing you.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
well he is gifted
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
whoa ... NT three years ago when we ran a 4-3 Defense?????
well DAMN! no WONDER Gun couldn’t get it done … the FOOL! running a 4-3 without a NT!!!
just makes me so MAD when I stop and think about it … how good we MIGHT have been if only we’d had a NT for our 4-3 Defense three years ago, obviously an epic fail of massive proportions and truly, nothing short of REDONKULOUS!
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
lol ups...easy man...chill or you might have a coronary
nice satire
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 8, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
I'd have to actually have a heart for that to happen
ty my friend! I know, you were looking out for my best interests … it’s nice to know that you CARE so much, too (does your gf know?)
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Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
32 years old?
I think we should still get him for a year maybe two, but I’m not sure I’d set the bar that high for a 32 years old RB behind one of the worst lines in football.
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 8, 2010 8:48 AM CST reply actions
Worse lines in 2009.
2010 will be a completely different animal.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 8, 2010 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, the line will be better
It was already fair at the end of the season (gelling, you could say). Add to that an upgrade or two between the tackles & it should be a solid line.
T-Jones wasn’t really falling off at the end of last season, and It’s not like we’ll be asking him to carry 20+ times per games here anyway. He’ll be a good short yardage situation/goal line back, and about as good a FA insurance policy as you can get for Charles. I think he’s worth the risk in spite of his mileage.
Predictions:
This year will be better
Him or Fargus
Then we need to draft a running back in the later rounds as well. Let Smith and Battle and the rest of the excess battle it out for the last spot or two.
Chiefs are on the up and up
Thomas Jones
I think it will be interesting to see what Charles role will be next year with TJ in the mix. I wonder if you will Charles returning kicks and lining up in the slot more.
Wide out
We need a wide out bad ours drop the ball way to much and i am saying D Bowe in this to we need to go after marshall it would be a great pick up
Four our first round pick?
No thank you
by groundedchevy on Mar 8, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
I really hope this Thomas Jones deal happens.
Mark my words, if Jones signs with the Chiefs our running attack will kick some serious ass. I mean kick some serious ass. Hope it happens.
Sign him to a 1-yr deal!
This would be an excellent addition. He brought passion and leadership on and off the field in NY. Then get Chambers deal done and draft at least 2 skill players in the first 6 picks.
by casselreadychiefs on Mar 8, 2010 10:19 AM CST reply actions
LJ is still available!
if TJ doesn’t like what he hears
and there is always LT …
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
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