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Thomas Jones Fits The Mold Of The Chiefs 'Right 53'

Sometimes you can tell the mark of a good player by looking at how teammates view him. In the case of Thomas Jones -- who will visit the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday -- he is viewed very fondly by his former teammates on the New York Jets. According to a report in the NY Daily News, Jones' teammates were miffed at his release from the team.

"I can tell you, it's not going to be a popular move in the locker room," an anonymous Jets player told Rich Cimini of the NY Daily News. "We loved T.J. The man loved the game and put it all on the line only to get dumped after his best season."

"A passionate guy like that, with the intensity he brought at certain points in the game, it ignited sparks in everybody," offensive lineman Brandon Moore said. "You would've liked to have kept a guy like that."

Star-divide

Jones saw his carries drop in the playoffs and some have speculated it was because he was "wearing down" late in the season. That may not be the entire story.

"Unbeknown to those outside the team," reports Cimini, "Jones was told with about two weeks left in the regular season that his role was being reduced, sources said."

Statistically, he didn't wear down in the second half of the season. In three of the first eight games, he averaged four yards per carry. In the second half of the season, he averaged over four yards per carry in four games despite getting dramatically more carries.

Jones has been called a workout warrior type, has the respect of his teammates in the locker room and still produces at a high level.

I'd say that's the right 53.

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Good to hear!

I really hope he doesnt leave KC without a contract!

by tomahawk44 on Mar 7, 2010 9:25 AM CST reply actions  

guy looks like a good fit to me

certainly more so than most of the FAs out there

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by upamtn on Mar 7, 2010 9:25 AM CST reply actions  

A well-liked power runner with gas in the tank?...Nice.

If he wants two, three years to play Thunder to JC’s lightning….let’s get him in and get him signed. This could be a really solid addition to our team.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Mar 7, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

He's are Man... Ink him!

I only worry about him getting paid more than JC and causing a Riff… JC needs to get paid too!

by JimDog on Mar 7, 2010 9:26 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed

but the Patriots didn’t really renew contracts until they are up. If anyone deserves a new contract, it is Charles. We’ve got to keep him happy.

by 1kmilesfromkc on Mar 7, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I think most players

understand how the system works. I think the friction, if any, would come over carries, not money.

You sometimes learn something everyday.

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Mar 7, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

So put Charles in on passing downs...or use him as a scatback/H-back.

Weis likes to run plays out of old-school run and shoot sets.

Originally, run and shoot offenses were designed to have an H-back who could run or catch, depending on the defense (google Mouse Davis or Run and Shoot and check out the first three, four hits if you don’t believe me).

Can you say, run-after-the-catch skills? Damn, that’d be something, and it would keep them both on the field.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Mar 7, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Sign this dude up.

This helps Cassel a lot. He can be more of a game manager than having to try and win it all by himself.

The way it looks we could be more of a running team then passing. I prefer it that way. You control the clock and work the opposing defense in the ground

I would give him whatever he wants as long as it’s not just crazy.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 7, 2010 9:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I also read that

The Bills may be trading Donte Whitner…I wonder if we could work something out for him too. Really young safety who could either start or be a really good backup.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 7, 2010 9:30 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

SEE

things are looking up. Possibilities of new players are coming out. Good thing we didn’t throw our money away.

by chiefsfan_roger on Mar 7, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

Patience is a virtue I don’t have….

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 7, 2010 9:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Whitner is a tackling machine.

Hopefully his thumb has healed up nicely. I’d like to see him in red and gold.

by skunk420 on Mar 7, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Charles needs a new payday. Hope he doesn’t have to ask and they do the right thing. if jones comes on board and is receiving more than Charles

by chiefsfan_roger on Mar 7, 2010 9:31 AM CST reply actions  

Jones

seems to do best in 2-back (RB/FB) sets. I wonder if we’ll try to upgrade our FB.

by 1kmilesfromkc on Mar 7, 2010 9:33 AM CST reply actions  

have to

Upgrade fullback and o-line. Cox is garbage.

by golfbard on Mar 7, 2010 9:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

sounds like

baltimore’s FB McClain might be available.

trade a 5th for him?

by KU2010 on Mar 7, 2010 2:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

No way Baltimore gives up McClain for a 5th.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 7, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

T-Rich

Signing TJ might interest Tony to come back home for one last year. I know he is old but he still has game.

by mysonmylife on Mar 8, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Jonesin 4 Jones...

Why would he come to KC? Better shot to re-sign in NY and win a Superbowl. Don’t get me wrong it would be nice though.

by kriscrossley1977 on Mar 7, 2010 9:35 AM CST reply actions  

It's been suggested in various places

That Jones has too much pride to return to a team that just cut him.

by bh13 on Mar 7, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

i hate to be debbie downer

But while jones would be a nice add, I wouldn’t except him to be as productive until the chiefs improve the o-line.

by golfbard on Mar 7, 2010 9:35 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Didn't stop Charles

Plus it will be upgraded

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 7, 2010 9:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

you're right but

Charles doesn’t need a great o-line as his quickness allows him to create his own spae.

Jones is more of a straight line runner who needs holes blown open by his line.

by golfbard on Mar 7, 2010 9:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I see what you saying but

The only reason I’m not worries is because TJ will be used sparingly. He won’t get 20 carries a game.

With Charles being thrown at a defense and then TJ it will keep them off balance enough to help our oline do their jobs.

Hopefully it will be JC with about 20-25 carries a game and TJ with about 10-15 a game.

It’s the way the NFL is going….you gotta have a 2 back set. Even up to using 3 RB would be smart.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 7, 2010 9:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I would love it if

Javaris could be that third guy

swish

by swish7209 on Mar 7, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

That would be nice

He is fresh and young. Plus he is a Pioli pick.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 7, 2010 9:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

im not saying

Its a bad signing but this team has to upgrade the o-line. We have the same problem as last year and they made a feeble effort in upgrading that position. I agree that you need two compenent running backs but if you look at every playoff team, they were strong on both lines of which kc is not. You can have all the skill position players in the world but with no line you have no chance.

by golfbard on Mar 7, 2010 9:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Thomas Jones will be used as a cannon ball... so he will be opening up holes.

At the same time the offensive line is going to get upgrade… my assumption is we will get at least 2 offensive linemen in the draft this year… on top of that we have Colin Brown, whom I expect will be filling in at Guard this year.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Mar 7, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm a little worried about Colin Brown

After we switched halfway through the year to a zone-blocking system, I’m wondering whether he fits anymore. At the time that we drafted him, LJ was still our featured back and we were doing more drive-blocking.

I hope I’m wrong. It would be great to have one less thing to worry about for our Chiefs, but I just don’t know.

by NW on Mar 7, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I believe that Colin Brown is the perfect fit for a zone blocking Guard.

The reason I said ‘filling in’ was I’m not sure how significant his injury last year was… Going from RT to RG shouldn’t be a problem.

The only problem that I could see is that we need to upgrade the Center position… if we can upgrade the center position Colin Brown should do just fine.

I don’t know if you have read this, but this is a great article, by Bewsaf…

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/1/19/1244139/if-you-cant-beat-them-zone-them

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Mar 7, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, I'm a fan of Bewsaf's articles but I must've missed that one.

I am curious though, why you think Brown is the perfect fit for a zone blocking guard. He just doesn’t strike me as a very athletic dude.

by NW on Mar 7, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

The biggest weakness that he would have is pulling...

I think that if he is able to trim down ~20 lbs from where he was at last year he will show a little more of the athleticism that he would need to do the pulling.

On plays that he isn’t asked to pull is where I see him excelling the most. I see him more of an anchor than someone that is going to run around to the other side of the line. I think that Brian Waters would be an excellent Center for Colin to excel. I say this because Waters did not do all that well with the pulling himself. I believe that if we moved him to Center and brought in another athletic guard that excelled for the left side that is solid at zone blocking.

Colin Brown was also more known for his pass blocking than his run blocking because of Missouri’s spread offense. If we can upgrade the pass blocking in the middle everybody else on the line should have a little bit of an easier time.

Then again he isn’t going to be on the field all the time… I do think that him being added to the offensive line upgrades the offensive line. I could be wrong about him being a solid guard, and they have him out as a RT.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Mar 7, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Colin Brown

 Former walk-on at Mizzou had originally envisioned himself as a collegiate basketball player … Versatile performer saw duty at all five positions on the offensive front during his career at Missouri … Played in 43 games with 28 starts at right tackle for the Tigers … Earned All-Big 12 honors as a junior and senior … In 2007, helped guide Missouri to a number one ranking in the AP poll for the first time since ‘60 … Was part of a prolific offense that finished in the nation’s top 10 in total offense his final two seasons … Played in three bowl victories and two Big 12 Conference Championship Games.

by bluechief7 on Mar 7, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I still wold rather have Ndukwe

than Colin Brown at RG. just sayin…

by KU2010 on Mar 7, 2010 2:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I've always liked the guy.

He’s been my 2nd round Fantasy League RB for the last for years (yeah, I’m basing my opinion off of fantasy stats — what of it?). He might not be flashy, but he’s solid and consistent which is exactly what you look for.

Finding out that he’s got a great attitude, too, makes me hope he lands in KC all the more.

by JacinB on Mar 7, 2010 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

He is in such great shape

The TJ you get when the game starts is the same exact one you get with 2 minutes left in the 4th…

That’s a Todd Haley guy!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 7, 2010 9:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

What kind of contract is this guy going to command?

I dunno, I’m not too ecstatic.
He’s 32, we don’t have enough impact players to have the luxury to pay for depth, and its the passing game that needs help. I’m glad they are looking and I’m not going to be that high or down if he does or does not get signed but I just don’t see this being a big priority. Continue to build the Oline and a change of pace back can be found from anywhere, without having to give a large contract to a 32 year old RB. Like I ask, I’d like to know what kind of contract he would command?

"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.

by craig in calgary on Mar 7, 2010 9:57 AM CST reply actions  

I don't think anyone is throwing piles of cash at 30+ RBs anymore

If I had to pull a number out I’d say a front loaded 3-4 year deal that would make him easy to dump after a season or two. Maybe similar to what C. Taylor got.

Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"

by KCporkchop on Mar 7, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Thats what I was thinking

A 2 year deal with a team option for a 3rd. Since our teams salary is approximately the GDP of a large lemonade stand these days, I’d be all for a short, front ended deal

"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.

by craig in calgary on Mar 7, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

GDP of a large lemonade stand, that's funny

even though people seem to forget the 40 something million bucks isn’t exactly pocket change

by E.C. on Mar 7, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

for a near 32 year old back

They shouldn’t go longer than two years with performance clauses. I wouldn’t be shocked if he didn’t take it coming off the year he had

by golfbard on Mar 7, 2010 10:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

pretty cheap, I'd expect.

Not only is he 32, but as of yet, the Chiefs appear to be the only team interested in his services. He doesn’t have a whole lot of leverage.

by NW on Mar 7, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Two thoughts

1. I would love to sign this guy.

2. I fear if he leaves Monday without a contract and then signs elsewhere that some people’s heads will literaly explode.

Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"

by KCporkchop on Mar 7, 2010 9:58 AM CST reply actions  

agreed

we should all show up to arrowhead on monday and form a impenetrable wall of fans blocking his exit until we have a press conference announcing his signing.

Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?

Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Mar 7, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

T Jones will prefer a contender at this point in his career

But if the $ is top dollar and no contenders show interest, it is possible

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Mar 7, 2010 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

For those who think Thomas Jones wouldn't sign with KC because we are not contenders...

What makes you think we couldn’t be a contender in the next 2-3 years? (Or this year for that matter) Just because we didn’t make the “big” splash in FA doesn’t mean we aren’t looking at the possible best draft in Chiefs history. This draft is deep and I don’t think it is out of the question to find 4 rookies who could start right away. Truth is we are a good o-linemen or two and maybe a WR away from having a really nice offense, especially if we do sign Jones. Our defense WILL be better under Crennel and there again, Shaun Smith coming in or a Rookie NT with some size could massively change this defense.

Two to three years is the length of contract that Jones will be looking at. Maybe he would want to be involved in the start of something great that will be competative for the forseeable future rather than a team that is looking at thier possible last shot at a title.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 7, 2010 10:35 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Older but...

Jones can still get it done. Weis is invaluable as a QB coach, and Cassel will improve dramatically. Our OL “should” be getting better as we will draft at least one OL in the earlier rounds, and possibly bringing Weigman back would be an upgrade over Rudy for sure. With a solid slot man (Tate, Shippley, Gilyard), Chambers, and Bowe (or Bryant), and maybe Ben Watson, our passing offense suddenly seems legit. And with Charles AND Jones in the backfield, our run game would be rock solid.

Jones would bring an attitude and anger that will open holes and move chains every Sunday. I don’t know how signing him could hurt us, he’s exactly what the article states, he is “The Right Fit”. With him to compliment Charles we’d have the perfect blend of speed, finesse, and power. And if they draft an RB like Blount, we’ll have a mentor that can teach on and off the field. This would be an awesome FA signing. Hope it gets done.

by shotty on Mar 7, 2010 10:50 AM CST reply actions  

That is a good point.

All of our rb’s are young. TJ is a worker and probably more fit than some of our youngsters. He’d be a great guy for them to model themselves after.

by skunk420 on Mar 7, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I like this idea...

TJ is a true professional. Would be a good mentor for Charles who is still learning. I see TJ as our Kevin Faulk. Good reciever and just makes plays when he has the ball. Good at short yardage also and still has the moves and quikness to make people miss. And , if something was to happen to Charles, he has the ability to be an everydown back and carry the load for a while.
With a few additions and upgrades, and better coaching, I think we will see less of the zone blocking this yr. We went to zone blocking because thats all we could find that worked. But I dont think that is really what Haley has in mind for his offense…

by KCinAZ on Mar 7, 2010 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

what did Weis run at ND?

that might tell us the direction he’s going, since Haley told the media that they were on the same page.

by TDubb on Mar 7, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Get it done

The Coal-Miners Son needs to be a Chief. Love what this guy brings in intangibles. His story is phenomenal Hope we grab him

by BucktheFroncos on Mar 7, 2010 1:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

it seems weird

Shanahan is bringing in “fast” Willie Parker instead of this guy. I’d rather get TJ.

You sometimes learn something everyday.

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Mar 7, 2010 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

Thats what we want, a man

with a good attitude and something to prove.

by G.L. on Mar 7, 2010 2:42 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe the best backfield in the league.

If we do sign Jones, I wouldn’t trade backfields with anyone. The Jets led the league in rushing last season, with Jones and Shonn Green. Having such a dominant rushing attack is only going to open up the passing game, and will help our O-line, as honestly, I don’t think many defenses repected either our rushing or passing game, until maybe the last 3 or so games, when Charles began to be taken seriously. Those that say we aren’t a contending team this season, better be careful. Our core of young players, mainly in their 2nd to 4th years, should peak this year with some consistency in the system and better coaching, we have an easier schedule than last season, Pioli and Haley have had a full season to evaluate the team and now know our needs much better, and we are likely the most stable team in the division, as everybody else are making alot of changes and are experiencing some type of turmoil in their organizations. I think the Chargers blew their window of opportunity, and are heading back to the rebuilding mode, as are the Donks (who fired one of the best DC’s in the league, are dealing with the Brandon Marshall issue, and still aren’t sure if Orton is the guy), Cable hasn’t even officially been named HC yet, but it is assumed he is, and with old AL, that team will continue to be pretty much a mess, especially if he insists on playing J Russell, his HC keeps punching out his Assistents, and Al makes the calls in the draft. They have as much money spent on former coaches and players as their present roster. So , with all that considered, why wouldn’t we be as capable as any team in the divison to compete for the crown? It certainly isn’t going to be full of elite teams. I think we have a head start in our development over all of them. Even the Chargers have had to unload some free agents, due to salary issues, they are aging at many positions, and need to rebuild their backfield.

Ray Ward

by Racyman on Mar 7, 2010 5:59 PM CST reply actions  

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