Chiefs Showing "Serious" Interest In NT Shaun Smith
According to a league source, the Kansas City Chiefs are showing "serious" interest in free agent Shaun Smith, the 28 year old defensive tackle most recently of the Bengals.
Smith comes with experience in the 3-4 defense and a familiarity with a couple of key members of the Chiefs.
In 2003, Bill Parcells signed him as an undrafted free agent. He lasted a year in Dallas crossing paths with Todd Haley for just a short period of time. In 2007, he was signed by the Cleveland Browns who were coached at the time by -- you guessed it -- Chiefs defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel.
We're told the interest in Smith is due in large part to the presence of Crennel. The Chiefs worked Smith out back in October without signing him to a contract.
Smith is listed at 6'2" and over 320 pounds, which is good size for a 3-4 nose tackle.
Our source believes a deal is on the horizon but we've yet to confirm. Smith's agent had not responded to our email request as of this posting.
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I don't know much about him
But a 28 year old NT sounds good to me. Even if he’s not dominant, he gives us a little more flexibility in the draft.
lol sworn to secrecy
boy, I say if Crennel likes him he’s just the sort we need and it may reduce how many NT’s we have to draft. We can take a shot at another WR or a LB
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Was he starting for Cincy last year?
Seems like if he were very good, he wouldn’t have moved around so much.
doesn't look like he played much last season....injury?
he would at least compete with Edwards and anyone else we bring in. Best year was ’07. did not start last season and only played in 3 games for Cinci.
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 6, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
he was pretty darn good before the browns cut him, I believe there was a good reason
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
oooohhhh that guy....
Sounds like a great idea…Quinn is a punk!
Now I’m done.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 6, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
that's what happens when you smart off to one of the big boys...lol
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 6, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think...
it was over politics. Quinn was a McCain supporter and I’m guessing Smith was in Obama’s camp.
Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.
fighting over mccain and obama
is like fighting over a turd and a shit sandwich
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by nayjevin on Mar 7, 2010 6:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
sick Smith on the WR's when they drop balls that hit them in the hands
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 6, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
ahhhhh that was why? ok...well...ha ha
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Smith wasn’t giving effort in practice. Quinn told him to step it up. Smith punched him. Not the kinda guy you want on your team.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 6, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
nice when can he join
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
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I wouldn't get rid of Edwards...
He plays pretty well but he has a hard time staying fresh. He’s a very good backup.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 6, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
Everybody here...
should have a profession in sales. Because yall can sell a box of crap, no matter how bad it smells….it will be a solid buy. LOL. Every day its looking like a ma and pa situation on Arrowhead drive. Lets just get all the coopers and bloopers and whoever they might have coached or met along time ago to come play cheap…….man i hope iam wrong.
Not a whole lot to speak of since the 07' season
Year Team G Solo Ast Total Sacks
2007 Cleveland 15 48 14 62 2
All that matters is...
Is he better than what we have? If the answer is yes…then what’s the problem?
Yep
Edwards is ok but it’d be nice to upgrade him. Behind Edwards we have….who?
I liked Tank
But I think in the long run, he’s better off where he is now. I don’t think he was really suited to play NT.
here's a few more of the details:
http://www.cleveland.com/brownsbeat/index.ssf/2009/08/cleveland_browns_release_defen.html
interestingly, it was romeo who wanted to keep him around after he punched out quinn
If anyone can get Smith to play like the old Shaun Smith, it'll be Crennel
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 6, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
he check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xyyrwj125M
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i even seen him with Chiefs player in this pic a big guy
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by Da Chiefs Guy on Mar 6, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
If they think he is good enough to hold the fort for a season or two
It would give us time to take a NT like Cam Thomas or Torrell Troup in the mid rounds and let them develop. I like the potential of both those guys.
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honestly...I am all for bringing in...15 guys if thats what it takes to find a NT that requires a Double team on occasion
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
That's the thing...
Edwards did fine at holding his blocks and making an occasional tackle but, he rarely commanded a double team. Dorsey was doubled on nearly every play though. If we can get a NT who commands the respect of an O-line like that, our D will look way better next year.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 6, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Even if we sign a NT, I doube we would draft one in the 1st or 2nd
Unless Mount Cody somehow falls to 2b, which won’t happen.
BS
We better draft a top-tier NT in the 1st or 2nd. One twisted ankle and we’re right back where we started. We need a PAIR of these guys. One veteran and one to develop. Guys like this don’t play every down so there will be plenty of rotation. MUST HAVE DEPTH!
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Love this if it goes through
NT is the biggest need in free agency. He was productive in Crennel’s D before and he is an upgrade over what we have now. Not the savior of our D but it’s a solid start.
yup...totally fine with this...many forget that a lot of last year's "signings" were cut during or after camp...
thomas…engram…toomer….beisel….
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
made me think of that great LJ quote where he talks about how weird it is
to one day see beisel, then look up the next, and hes gone…must be tough!
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
beisel got injured in camp didn't he?
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 6, 2010 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
no he didnt down a punt inside the 1 yard line and got cut for it
i forgot what game it was but the other team promptly started at the 20 and ended with 7.
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
From a Browns fan, you do not want this guy. He isn’t good and has HUGE attitude issues. He also used steroids in 07 or 06
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 6, 2010 9:58 PM CST reply actions
Well...
we are desperate right now. We need all the bodies we can get our hands on, especially the position of NT.
Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 6, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
The question is.
Is he a worse NT than Ron Edwards?
by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 6, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, I haven’t seen Ron Edwards play.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 6, 2010 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
I tried to search YouTube for highlights of Shaun Smith, but I got some American Idol kid
Are we sure we’re not signing him??? Maybe to sing the anthems or something?
A singing NT?
I’m trying to picture that. Wonder rather Vince Wilfork can sing or not?
by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 6, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
David Cook for NT/Anthem Singer!
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
NT's are in demand!
Bring the guy in and work out a reasonable contract. If Crennel likes him, I am all for it. He has as much knowledge about the guy as anyone, so give him a shot. At the worse, he can be part of a rotation until we can get a rookie up and running. At the best, he may end up starting and being productive. Not alot to lose, if you ask me. I’m sure he doesn’t expect a Haynesworth or Peppers contract. Hell, Edwards may even improve after a year of playing NT. Good coaching can make alot of difference in a players’ performance by itself. I just want Eric Berry! If signing a NT enhances our chances of drafting Berry, do it!
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Don't want him...
If NT is such a tough position to fill, why is a 28 year old NT with NFL experience still on the market? Way too much baggage – attitude, steroids.. would rather draft one.
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Guy likes to run his mouth. Couldn’t make it in Detroit:
“The now teamless Shaun Smith has been suspended for four games for allegedly taking a water pill, which is a violation of the NFL’s anabolic steroid policy. Tom Kowalski doesn’t think his suspension was the main reason why the Lions released him (assuming they knew of the suspension), though it obviously could have been one of the reasons why he was cut.”
The Lions cut him?
That is a bigger red flag than any off-the-field issues he might have.
by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 6, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing to lose.
A young kid who might have something to offer who’s expectations of him are low. Can’t be much worse then we have and who knows.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
He's worth a look..
I trust Crennel knows him just as good as anybody.
8-8 is possible in 2010 and it wont take breaking the bank on 2nd tear free agents getting lucrative contracts because the free agent pool is so weak this year!
by Chieffan_Toby on Mar 6, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure Haley will see his "attitude" as a down side at the NT
Here’s a Haley quote about the NT position and Tank Tyler from training camp:
HALEY: "That’s a man’s position now, especially as much of the ¾ (defense) that we’re playing. When you’re the nose and you’re in there a lot of that is just ‘want-to.’ You’re fighting, scratching, clawing and it’s not for everyone. I think all three of the guys have the ability to do it, it’s just a matter of getting it done on a consistent basis."
Q: What’s Tank (Tyler) shown you for better or worse during this pre-season?
HALEY: "I think that it’s been a little up and down. I’m waiting to see Tank kind of…the thing I remember about Tank when he was coming out (of college) was just the nastiness that he played with. I mean he was a bad dude and you didn’t want to mess around with him. So, I’m waiting to see a little more of that."
Q: So, he’s a little more subdued than you’d like to see of him?
HALEY: "Seems like a nice guy."
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
good point porkchop
… I’m thinking Haley might appreciate the nastiness.
by chiefsfan62 on Mar 7, 2010 12:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Short term memory around here or what?
If any single player on the Chiefs of the past three years acted like Smith is reported to have acted, KansasCityFan would’ve had a collective shit fit and rioted until he was gone.
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Very true,
but his past makes him cheap. He had two respectable years under Crennel at Clv. If he likes Crennel and a strong coach like Haley can keep him in line maybe he comes around. If he doesn’t we cut him and are out nothing.
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
No doubt.
We’re entering the “last chance zone” if we pursue this guy, but any contract over minimum sounds like an awful idea.
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Here's a little more info I found while looking into him
He really has only had a chance to play on a regular basis in two seasons 07 and 08, both with the Browns. During those two seasons he played in 26 games, starting 20. He recorded 98 tackles over those two seasons (not bad for a DT). His 62 tackles in 07 were tied for 5th in the NFL amoung DT. Also, according to his NFL.com profile he went to HS in Wichita, so he might be wanting to come “home”.
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
Pass
Fun fact: Shaun Smith went to Heights High School in Wichita, KS.
Unfun facts: The most starts he’s ever had in a season is 11. That same season he collected 62 combined tackles and the only 2 sacks of his career. Each of his other 5 seasons pale in comparison to his 2007. He was released after 5 days by the Cardinals when they sucked. He was released by the Saints when they sucked. He was released by the Browns. He was released by the Lions. I haven’t even gotten into off the field issues.
If signed, he should be thought of as nothing more than training camp fodder.
Good info NW.
Keep up the great work everyone. We’ll have this guy out of a job in no time!
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haha that is the goal, isn't it?
I believe we should all be “shrewd evaluators of talent”.
by NW on Mar 7, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
Wrong Shaun.
We should be trying to get ahold of Shaun Rogers.
I'm officially on the 'Draft Eric Berry' train.
Haley-Crennel 2010.
Here is what ESPN Insiders say.
Grade 59
Expert’s Take Smith was only active for three games in 2009. He flashes ability, but consistency remains a problem. He does have value, though, and can be effective in a rotation as an interior lineman in the Bengals’ defensive scheme. Smith lacks the long athletic build to keep blockers off his body at end and isn’t quite stout enough to excel on the nose when asked to play a high amount of snaps. He has size and tools to be a solid contributor but durability and effort is a concern.
by NFL season ticket holder on Mar 7, 2010 1:14 AM CST reply actions
Sounds about right
If we bring him in, then I’m convinced that we’ll still draft an NT high to establish depth and a rotation. Get a couple of two or three down guys and swap them in and out and we should be fine. I could even see picking another NT up in the 5th round as well.
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hey styx /firesticks
why is it i cannot go to a blog anywhere without you popping up when matt cassel’s name is brought up? i think you have some issues with him or something ,but the average person wouldnt go blog to blog,and make a comment when only his name is brought up.if you dont like a player so what ,but when you cannot even go to a patriots site and someone brings his name your right there..just wondering if it goes deeper??
Joel ... serious question for ya here
nice little post and a lot of info in there and the comments above, which made me pause and wonder, in response to your post line …
We’re told the interest in Smith is due in large part to the presence of Crennel. The Chiefs worked Smith out back in October without signing him to a contract.
… did the guy like all of a sudden get BETTER over the last couple of months? I mean, seriously … he wasn’t good enough for us THEN but all of a sudden he’s good enough for us NOW? what’s up with that?
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Joel....serious question for ya here
how in the hell can you constantly reply in twenty diff post at once and post more material than anyone else? is it your moderator dashboard thingy or do own a cape or two?
gotcha, Joel, and ty! that works for me ...
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get him
and draft TORREL TROUP…romeo is a genious when it comes to building a strong front seven.crennel has mentioned he will run some 4-3 type fronts as well, if it means getting are 7 most talented players on the field at once then im all for it.
Yay!!!!!! We need a guy who isn't even listed on the Bengals depth chart!!!!
This is who i stayed up all night watching NFL Network on friday for!!!!!!
8 tackles total!!!! Yay!! Forget Wilfork or even Tank Johnson. This is what weee need!!!!!
We could really trade a 4th rd and next years 4th rd for Shaun Rogers. But lets get this guy instead!
put some depth behind him
and only ask him to be a two down player. No way you can ask a guy like this to be an every down guy. It will work.
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Didn't we let players go that had the same potential?
Like Johnson, Boone, McBride, Wilkerson. IMO, the chiefs seems to be spinning their wheels by trying to new mediocre parts in areas they already had mediocre parts in. I don’t get it.
by NFL season ticket holder on Mar 7, 2010 11:37 AM CST reply actions
This is ideal
a veteran on the right side of 30 for a moderate deal and we draft a badass to develop. We have experience, depth and a long term future. Exactly the kind of move I’d expect Pioli to make. It ain’t sexy. More utility than anything but it’s the first step in squashing the team’s single greatest need. I hope we do it.
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this is what I'm talkin about...
Bringin in no-names to rotate! They’re tryin to outsmart themselves thinkin they know somethin we don’t. Its like a jedi mind trick that will backfire in their face like last years moves. I dont understand for the life of me how they come up with these moves. Its such bullshit! We may win one more game than last year! Hooray! Since they had such a stellar draft last year I guess they don’t need to make any real damn moves. Bring in TJ, oh that’s fantastic! (heavy on the sarcasm) Who cares!? Pass rush & WR anyone!?
Who would you propose we bring in for Pass rush and WR?
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
He's 28 years old,
he fits the NT position. He woun’t be a pro-bowler but I don’t really have a problem with the signing if he comes cheap.

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