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Chiefs Showing "Serious" Interest In NT Shaun Smith

According to a league source, the Kansas City Chiefs are showing "serious" interest in free agent Shaun Smith, the 28 year old defensive tackle most recently of the Bengals.

Smith comes with experience in the 3-4 defense and a familiarity with a couple of key members of the Chiefs.

In 2003, Bill Parcells signed him as an undrafted free agent. He lasted a year in Dallas crossing paths with Todd Haley for just a short period of time. In 2007, he was signed by the Cleveland Browns who were coached at the time by -- you guessed it -- Chiefs defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel.

We're told the interest in Smith is due in large part to the presence of Crennel. The Chiefs worked Smith out back in October without signing him to a contract.

Smith is listed at 6'2" and over 320 pounds, which is good size for a 3-4 nose tackle.

Our source believes a deal is on the horizon but we've yet to confirm. Smith's agent had not responded to our email request as of this posting.

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I don't know much about him

But a 28 year old NT sounds good to me. Even if he’s not dominant, he gives us a little more flexibility in the draft.

by bh13 on Mar 6, 2010 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

lol sworn to secrecy

boy, I say if Crennel likes him he’s just the sort we need and it may reduce how many NT’s we have to draft. We can take a shot at another WR or a LB

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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 6, 2010 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

Was he starting for Cincy last year?

Seems like if he were very good, he wouldn’t have moved around so much.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 6, 2010 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

doesn't look like he played much last season....injury?

he would at least compete with Edwards and anyone else we bring in. Best year was ’07. did not start last season and only played in 3 games for Cinci.

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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 6, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

he was pretty darn good before the browns cut him, I believe there was a good reason

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 6, 2010 9:19 PM CST reply actions  

oooohhhh that guy....

Sounds like a great idea…Quinn is a punk!

Now I’m done.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 6, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

If this guy signs Cassel might want to keep his comments to his self.

by chiefs_fan05 on Mar 6, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

rofl

*My opinions are subject to change.

by CMatthews on Mar 6, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I think...

it was over politics. Quinn was a McCain supporter and I’m guessing Smith was in Obama’s camp.

Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 6, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

fighting over mccain and obama

is like fighting over a turd and a shit sandwich

Ron Paul 2012

the rest of them like war

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by nayjevin on Mar 7, 2010 6:34 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

ahhhhh that was why? ok...well...ha ha

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 6, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Smith wasn’t giving effort in practice. Quinn told him to step it up. Smith punched him. Not the kinda guy you want on your team.

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 6, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

nice when can he join

Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?

Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Mar 7, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

he

got in troulue in cle with bryan cox mangini he a head case

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by j-man on Mar 6, 2010 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

Works for me.

At worst, he would be a stop-gap starter; soe we can finally get rid of Ron Edwards.

by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 6, 2010 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

Everybody here...

should have a profession in sales. Because yall can sell a box of crap, no matter how bad it smells….it will be a solid buy. LOL. Every day its looking like a ma and pa situation on Arrowhead drive. Lets just get all the coopers and bloopers and whoever they might have coached or met along time ago to come play cheap…….man i hope iam wrong.

by Sea of RED on Mar 6, 2010 9:23 PM CST reply actions  

Not a whole lot to speak of since the 07' season

Year Team G Solo Ast Total Sacks
 2007 Cleveland 15 48 14 62 2

by chiefs_fan05 on Mar 6, 2010 9:26 PM CST reply actions  

All that matters is...

Is he better than what we have? If the answer is yes…then what’s the problem?

by Scott B. on Mar 6, 2010 9:27 PM CST reply actions  

Yep

Edwards is ok but it’d be nice to upgrade him. Behind Edwards we have….who?

by bh13 on Mar 6, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I liked Tank

But I think in the long run, he’s better off where he is now. I don’t think he was really suited to play NT.

by bh13 on Mar 6, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

he check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xyyrwj125M

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by Da Chiefs Guy on Mar 6, 2010 9:36 PM CST reply actions  

i even seen him with Chiefs player in this pic a big guy

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by Da Chiefs Guy on Mar 6, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

If they think he is good enough to hold the fort for a season or two

It would give us time to take a NT like Cam Thomas or Torrell Troup in the mid rounds and let them develop. I like the potential of both those guys.

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by KCporkchop on Mar 6, 2010 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

honestly...I am all for bringing in...15 guys if thats what it takes to find a NT that requires a Double team on occasion

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 6, 2010 9:38 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

Sign as many guys as possible, let them fight it out. Bound to find at least a couple decent players in the bunch.

by bh13 on Mar 6, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

That's the thing...

Edwards did fine at holding his blocks and making an occasional tackle but, he rarely commanded a double team. Dorsey was doubled on nearly every play though. If we can get a NT who commands the respect of an O-line like that, our D will look way better next year.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 6, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

If we sign a NT I doubt we would draft one in the 1st or 2nd.

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by pokerjoe on Mar 6, 2010 9:43 PM CST reply actions  

BS

We better draft a top-tier NT in the 1st or 2nd. One twisted ankle and we’re right back where we started. We need a PAIR of these guys. One veteran and one to develop. Guys like this don’t play every down so there will be plenty of rotation. MUST HAVE DEPTH!

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by Buck'O on Mar 7, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Love this if it goes through

NT is the biggest need in free agency. He was productive in Crennel’s D before and he is an upgrade over what we have now. Not the savior of our D but it’s a solid start.

by RamX21 on Mar 6, 2010 9:47 PM CST reply actions  

yup...totally fine with this...many forget that a lot of last year's "signings" were cut during or after camp...

thomas…engram…toomer….beisel….

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 6, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

made me think of that great LJ quote where he talks about how weird it is

to one day see beisel, then look up the next, and hes gone…must be tough!

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 6, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

no he didnt down a punt inside the 1 yard line and got cut for it

i forgot what game it was but the other team promptly started at the 20 and ended with 7.

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 6, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

From a Browns fan, you do not want this guy. He isn’t good and has HUGE attitude issues. He also used steroids in 07 or 06

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 6, 2010 9:58 PM CST reply actions  

Well...

we are desperate right now. We need all the bodies we can get our hands on, especially the position of NT.

Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 6, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

The question is.

Is he a worse NT than Ron Edwards?

by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 6, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, I haven’t seen Ron Edwards play.

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 6, 2010 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

A singing NT?

I’m trying to picture that. Wonder rather Vince Wilfork can sing or not?

by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 6, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

David Cook for NT/Anthem Singer!

Predictions:

1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.

by Dove40 on Mar 6, 2010 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

NT's are in demand!

Bring the guy in and work out a reasonable contract. If Crennel likes him, I am all for it. He has as much knowledge about the guy as anyone, so give him a shot. At the worse, he can be part of a rotation until we can get a rookie up and running. At the best, he may end up starting and being productive. Not alot to lose, if you ask me. I’m sure he doesn’t expect a Haynesworth or Peppers contract. Hell, Edwards may even improve after a year of playing NT. Good coaching can make alot of difference in a players’ performance by itself. I just want Eric Berry! If signing a NT enhances our chances of drafting Berry, do it!

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by Racyman on Mar 6, 2010 10:25 PM CST reply actions  

Don't want him...

If NT is such a tough position to fill, why is a 28 year old NT with NFL experience still on the market? Way too much baggage – attitude, steroids.. would rather draft one.

by golfbard on Mar 6, 2010 10:26 PM CST reply actions  

Yes

Very nasty!

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by Buck'O on Mar 7, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t adjust our draft needs based off of signing this player.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Mar 6, 2010 10:31 PM CST reply actions  

point is

I wouldn’t sign him. Waste and a potential cancer to younger players given his attitude issue§

by golfbard on Mar 6, 2010 10:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Witlock's new best friend

Guy likes to run his mouth. Couldn’t make it in Detroit:

“The now teamless Shaun Smith has been suspended for four games for allegedly taking a water pill, which is a violation of the NFL’s anabolic steroid policy. Tom Kowalski doesn’t think his suspension was the main reason why the Lions released him (assuming they knew of the suspension), though it obviously could have been one of the reasons why he was cut.”

by Kane on Mar 6, 2010 10:42 PM CST reply actions  

The Lions cut him?

That is a bigger red flag than any off-the-field issues he might have.

by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 6, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Nothing to lose.

A young kid who might have something to offer who’s expectations of him are low. Can’t be much worse then we have and who knows.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Mar 6, 2010 10:51 PM CST reply actions  

He's worth a look..

I trust Crennel knows him just as good as anybody.

8-8 is possible in 2010 and it wont take breaking the bank on 2nd tear free agents getting lucrative contracts because the free agent pool is so weak this year!

by Chieffan_Toby on Mar 6, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure Haley will see his "attitude" as a down side at the NT

Here’s a Haley quote about the NT position and Tank Tyler from training camp:

HALEY: "That’s a man’s position now, especially as much of the ¾ (defense) that we’re playing. When you’re the nose and you’re in there a lot of that is just ‘want-to.’ You’re fighting, scratching, clawing and it’s not for everyone. I think all three of the guys have the ability to do it, it’s just a matter of getting it done on a consistent basis."

Q: What’s Tank (Tyler) shown you for better or worse during this pre-season?

HALEY: "I think that it’s been a little up and down. I’m waiting to see Tank kind of…the thing I remember about Tank when he was coming out (of college) was just the nastiness that he played with. I mean he was a bad dude and you didn’t want to mess around with him. So, I’m waiting to see a little more of that."

Q: So, he’s a little more subdued than you’d like to see of him?

HALEY: "Seems like a nice guy."

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by KCporkchop on Mar 6, 2010 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

good point porkchop

… I’m thinking Haley might appreciate the nastiness.

by chiefsfan62 on Mar 7, 2010 12:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Nice

Glad I kept reading. I was just about to post this very exchange.

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by Buck'O on Mar 7, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Short term memory around here or what?

If any single player on the Chiefs of the past three years acted like Smith is reported to have acted, KansasCityFan would’ve had a collective shit fit and rioted until he was gone.

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by Justin Bopp on Mar 7, 2010 12:59 AM CST reply actions  

Very true,

but his past makes him cheap. He had two respectable years under Crennel at Clv. If he likes Crennel and a strong coach like Haley can keep him in line maybe he comes around. If he doesn’t we cut him and are out nothing.

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by KCporkchop on Mar 7, 2010 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

No doubt.

We’re entering the “last chance zone” if we pursue this guy, but any contract over minimum sounds like an awful idea.

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by Justin Bopp on Mar 7, 2010 1:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Here's a little more info I found while looking into him

He really has only had a chance to play on a regular basis in two seasons 07 and 08, both with the Browns. During those two seasons he played in 26 games, starting 20. He recorded 98 tackles over those two seasons (not bad for a DT). His 62 tackles in 07 were tied for 5th in the NFL amoung DT. Also, according to his NFL.com profile he went to HS in Wichita, so he might be wanting to come “home”.

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by KCporkchop on Mar 7, 2010 1:06 AM CST reply actions  

Pass

Fun fact: Shaun Smith went to Heights High School in Wichita, KS.

Unfun facts: The most starts he’s ever had in a season is 11. That same season he collected 62 combined tackles and the only 2 sacks of his career. Each of his other 5 seasons pale in comparison to his 2007. He was released after 5 days by the Cardinals when they sucked. He was released by the Saints when they sucked. He was released by the Browns. He was released by the Lions. I haven’t even gotten into off the field issues.

If signed, he should be thought of as nothing more than training camp fodder.

by NW on Mar 7, 2010 1:07 AM CST reply actions  

Good info NW.

Keep up the great work everyone. We’ll have this guy out of a job in no time!

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by Justin Bopp on Mar 7, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Wrong Shaun.

We should be trying to get ahold of Shaun Rogers.

I'm officially on the 'Draft Eric Berry' train.
Haley-Crennel 2010.

by scottbwalters on Mar 7, 2010 1:12 AM CST reply actions  

Here is what ESPN Insiders say.

Grade 59
Expert’s Take Smith was only active for three games in 2009. He flashes ability, but consistency remains a problem. He does have value, though, and can be effective in a rotation as an interior lineman in the Bengals’ defensive scheme. Smith lacks the long athletic build to keep blockers off his body at end and isn’t quite stout enough to excel on the nose when asked to play a high amount of snaps. He has size and tools to be a solid contributor but durability and effort is a concern.

by NFL season ticket holder on Mar 7, 2010 1:14 AM CST reply actions  

Sounds about right

If we bring him in, then I’m convinced that we’ll still draft an NT high to establish depth and a rotation. Get a couple of two or three down guys and swap them in and out and we should be fine. I could even see picking another NT up in the 5th round as well.

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by Buck'O on Mar 7, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

hey styx /firesticks

why is it i cannot go to a blog anywhere without you popping up when matt cassel’s name is brought up? i think you have some issues with him or something ,but the average person wouldnt go blog to blog,and make a comment when only his name is brought up.if you dont like a player so what ,but when you cannot even go to a patriots site and someone brings his name your right there..just wondering if it goes deeper??

by chiefs72 on Mar 7, 2010 6:23 AM CST reply actions  

No joke

Shaun Rogers would be awesome!

by shotty on Mar 7, 2010 8:42 AM CST reply actions  

Joel ... serious question for ya here

nice little post and a lot of info in there and the comments above, which made me pause and wonder, in response to your post line …

We’re told the interest in Smith is due in large part to the presence of Crennel. The Chiefs worked Smith out back in October without signing him to a contract.

… did the guy like all of a sudden get BETTER over the last couple of months? I mean, seriously … he wasn’t good enough for us THEN but all of a sudden he’s good enough for us NOW? what’s up with that?

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by upamtn on Mar 7, 2010 9:15 AM CST reply actions  

Joel....serious question for ya here

 how in the hell can you constantly reply in twenty diff post at once and post more material than anyone else? is it your moderator dashboard thingy or do own a cape or two?

by E.C. on Mar 7, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

gotcha, Joel, and ty! that works for me ...

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by upamtn on Mar 7, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

get him

and draft TORREL TROUP…romeo is a genious when it comes to building a strong front seven.crennel has mentioned he will run some 4-3 type fronts as well, if it means getting are 7 most talented players on the field at once then im all for it.

by chiefs72 on Mar 7, 2010 9:19 AM CST reply actions  

Yay!!!!!! We need a guy who isn't even listed on the Bengals depth chart!!!!

This is who i stayed up all night watching NFL Network on friday for!!!!!!

8 tackles total!!!! Yay!! Forget Wilfork or even Tank Johnson. This is what weee need!!!!!

by JC25FoMVP on Mar 7, 2010 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

put some depth behind him

and only ask him to be a two down player. No way you can ask a guy like this to be an every down guy. It will work.

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by Buck'O on Mar 7, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't we let players go that had the same potential?

Like Johnson, Boone, McBride, Wilkerson. IMO, the chiefs seems to be spinning their wheels by trying to new mediocre parts in areas they already had mediocre parts in. I don’t get it.

by NFL season ticket holder on Mar 7, 2010 11:37 AM CST reply actions  

This is ideal

a veteran on the right side of 30 for a moderate deal and we draft a badass to develop. We have experience, depth and a long term future. Exactly the kind of move I’d expect Pioli to make. It ain’t sexy. More utility than anything but it’s the first step in squashing the team’s single greatest need. I hope we do it.

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by Buck'O on Mar 7, 2010 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

this is what I'm talkin about...

Bringin in no-names to rotate! They’re tryin to outsmart themselves thinkin they know somethin we don’t. Its like a jedi mind trick that will backfire in their face like last years moves. I dont understand for the life of me how they come up with these moves. Its such bullshit! We may win one more game than last year! Hooray! Since they had such a stellar draft last year I guess they don’t need to make any real damn moves. Bring in TJ, oh that’s fantastic! (heavy on the sarcasm) Who cares!? Pass rush & WR anyone!?

by HIT34MAN on Mar 7, 2010 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

He's 28 years old,

he fits the NT position. He woun’t be a pro-bowler but I don’t really have a problem with the signing if he comes cheap.

by tenacious rdc on Mar 10, 2010 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

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