Why limited activity in Free Agency is Right for the Chiefs
After reading Jon Yoon's article that Pioli and the Chiefs Might Need to Demonstrate More Urgency This Offseason I started thinking a little more about it and I've come to the conclusion that the Chiefs are moving at about the right speed. Before the pile-on begins and the screaming about Pioli just saving the Hunt's money let's look at a couple of key factors:
First, as Mr. Yoon mentioned in his article, the Chief's lack of winning is a detriment to bringing in Free Agents unless you shell out top dollar :
On the other hand, I feel that most free agents can be coaxed at the right price. Until the Chiefs start winning, it's going to continue to become difficult to bring in top-flight free agents. Finally, it's an uncapped year, so if there was ever a time to commit to moves that were non-cap threatening, this would be the time.
And this is exactly what teams like the Bears and Lions have done they've overpaid. Mike Lombardi brought up an interesting point regarding both this year and next year's free agent market:
Some teams are more interested in 2011 than 2010 in terms of free agency. The 2011 UFA class will be a very talented group, and if the cap returns, teams will have to have the room to participate. With the exception of a few players, this year’s group is not very talented….
So if this year's class is not overly talented then why overpay just to say you did something? Kendrell Bell, Chester McGlockton, Pat Surtain anyone? In order to build the Chiefs to a world championship contender, Pioli and his crew have to build the culture of winning and that means bringing in guys who buy into the culture not just the high-priced, strong talent but questionable attitude characters (Do you hear me Julius Peppers / Terrell Owens).
Second, it seems to me the type of Free Agents you want to sign are guys who meet a couple different criteria:
1. An ascending player, ala Priest Holmes in 2001. He was a back-up in Baltimore who had shown some flashes over 3 years but lost his job to Jamal Lewis. He was not a big splash in Free Agency for the Chiefs and while we may have somewhat liked the pick-up in early 2001 we really loved it when he started playing for KC. You shouldn't have to overpay to get him.
2. If you do take an older Veteran, he should not be bringing any baggage and preferably he understands your system and will work in it (i.e. Mike Vrabel)
Third, we are in the cloak-n-dagger phase of the off season, just because a report links you as interested in a player it doesn't mean you are (remember those twitters and blogs about the Patriots leading for Boldin at some point yesterday):
As for Boldin, the Patriots were never involved. Never.
Finally, Free Agency is one part of building a Championship team. For the last several years the Chiefs' have had Bad Team-itis and I for one am tired of it. There is a way to get past it and it's not by overspending:
Nate Burleson has never started 16 games in a season, mainly because of injuries.
He did have his best season with 63 catches last season for Seattle, but he averaged 12.9 per catch.
So why again did the Detroit Lions give him a five-year deal worth a reported $25 million with $11 million guaranteed on the first day of free agency?
Are these teams nuts?
Burleson is a complimentary player -- at best. I know the Lions want to get Matt Stafford help, but Burleson is expensive help for what he brings.
This is typical of a bad team: Spending to try and get better.
It doesn't work. Don't rush it. Draft players and take your time.
Bad team-itis
One other thing: Don't buy the Hype! Peppers, Taylor, Robinson, Rolle, Dansby, etc. Hyped a lot more than their production would warrant.
Someone tell me what tape to watch last year where Texans corner Dunta Robinson covered anyone. How can he get over $23 million guaranteed? The Falcons needed a corner, and after signing Robinson, they still need a corner….
The offseason is always exciting but I try not to let myself get carried away into the World of Madden where almost every trade or signing is a good one and if it isn't you just hit reset. It's not so easy in the real world but a good football guy like Pioli knows it'll take a little more work to put it all together.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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I have a question for the people ripping on Pioli: what do you do for a living?
Pioli was the #1 most sought after executive in the NFL for the last decade. Nobody has the resume this guy has — three Superbowl wins, four Superbowl appearances, the first ever 16-0 regular season team. I don’t think people in KC really realize how amazing a coup it was for Clark Hunt to land Pioli, that Pioli was willing to come to a small market city like KC.
So this is my question, and I am saying this in all seriousness: If you guys think you know better than Pioli, that you know better how to build an NFL team than the guy who built the dominant team of the past decade, why aren’t you working in the NFL? If you could do a better job than a guy with 3 fucking Superbowl rings, why aren’t you working in the NFL in some capacity?
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Mar 6, 2010 3:48 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
people just want to speculate
i know i dont know more than Pioli but having AP allows me and others to get on here and voice our opinions. I write what i think and take everyone else’s opinions into account. I really dont care if we sign someone big or not, but just getting on here and talking about it and being around other Chiefs fans is fun.
No one here works for the Chiefs, except for maybe Satch, but we are all fans and this is the place we get to come to to express how we feel. What am i suppost to stop my wife from watching QVC and HSN right now and tell her the Chiefs need to sign a key FA? No. Logging on here and being around Chief fans and Chief news 24/7 is what makes the offseason bearable. People are going to get upset, speculate, point fingers, blame, cry, and moan about anything. You have to take it with a grain of salt and just remember that AP is for everyone, not just Pioli and Haley lovers, and not just for Pioli and Haley haters.
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
We are fans and we are going to discuss the rights and wrongs of our favorite teams. And you know what…. we have every right to question every move Pioli makes. Without the loyal Chiefs fans he would not have that job. We buy the tickets, hotdogs, pay for parking and buy are favorite Chiefs gear. So in my mind, me supporting the Chiefs gives me every right to question any move or lack of moves he makes. We have been hearing the same thing for years, its time to reward your fans for being loyal through out the 5 + years we have been rebuilding with a good football team. I already know your going to say the Hunts pay his salary well let’s state the obvious, we pay the Hunts.
But you don't pay the Hunts' salary either.
The Hunts own an asset that will increase in value exponentially over time because of its connection to the golden goose known as the NFL. If fans were to boycott Chiefs games altogether and the franchise made literally $0 in gate receipts, the franchise would still earn tens of millions (if not hundreds of millions) of dollars every year through revenue sharing.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
B.S.
How long would the chiefs be in KC if that happened. The revenue sharing is not enough to pay stadium cost, player salaries and other expenses. Ok so why am I a fan if I have no right to complain. I guess you could make the same argument to the fans that boo and blast player (if your so good why don’t you play in the NFL)
you mean like the how Arrowhead looked in the mid 70's to late 80's?
because THAT would have been the time to move the team and that was before revenue sharing. the Hunt’s are keeping the Chiefs in KC, especially after the overhaul of Arrowhead. I’m sure Hunt knows it’s going to be lean this season and that’s ok if it means building a solid franchise that can compete year in and year out.
Yes we have right to question his moves I actually do agree with that but there is a difference between questioning why did he do that and having an open mind and bashing him. As for speaking about the prior seasons basically as fans we have to realize we can fault Pioli for prior failures if you want to say hey we were really bad last year and I’m getting sick of it sure but Pioli was brought in what like 14 months ago it does take time I’d like it to go faster as well but if going slow means we have a consistent winning team opposed to a team that wins is one of the big spenders and wins 1 year next year they are at the bottom again no thanks
as far as i am concerned… looks like the brains of the outfit was belichick… while pioli may have learned a thing or two from the master… the real prodigy here was the head coach…
feb draft wish 1.3:
1. eric berry fs
2. sergio kindle olb
2. brandon spikes ilb
3. jd walton oc
4. torell troup nt
5. jacoby ford wr
5. joique bell rb
5. myron rolle ss
What are you basing your conclusion on?
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Pure Specualtion
Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09 --> This will probably not happen, I was smoking crack at the time. Please Disregard.
the things you listed in your post… basically pioli has brought in people from that organization, played the patriot way like a fiddle… and here we sit… hoping for a blockbuster of a draft… that is what im basing it on…
feb draft wish 1.3:
1. eric berry fs
2. sergio kindle olb
2. brandon spikes ilb
3. jd walton oc
4. torell troup nt
5. jacoby ford wr
5. joique bell rb
5. myron rolle ss
after one year...
…a year that was very similar to BB and SP’s first year in New England.
did you think one year in that KC was going to go 12-4, 13-3, something like that?
i don’t get why people think Pioli was going to go nuts in FA. at his first press conference when he was hired, he laid out the ground work of how he was going to rebuild this team. no, everyone is shocked and angry that he isn’t going crazy and that he’s an idiot.
actually ...
did you think one year in that KC was going to go 12-4, 13-3, something like that?
and this year I fully EXPECT at LEAST 14 wins and next year the SB and after that I want to win the Powerball and if you don't say it's true then I'm going to take my football and go home and nobody will be allowed to play with it ANY more except krayfish cuz he's my FRIEND and ...
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Calmer heads are prevailing today.
Scott Pioli never said he was king or he answers to no one. He humbly & assertively stated that he was happy to be here & would work his tail end off to bring KC into respectability again & hopefully championships.
Historically speaking KC is almost hands down the most respected franchise in the NFL. Small market, yes… Loyal Fanbase, absolutely… Numerous hall of famers, yep…And there is a wing in Canton with Lamars name on it.
We have to keep in mind that Rome was not built in a day & battles must be won in the trtenches. And for now, we are going to have to believe that when it comes to FA & the draft that Scott Pioli is the smartest man in the room.
Scott Pioli's star will shine in 2010.
Win or lose, the Chiefs scare the bejesus of all opponents in 2010
by ChiefsChance on Mar 6, 2010 4:47 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
rec'd Western, and well written and I agree totally, but just one thing ...
that was indeed a good writeup by Jon Yoon earlier (wow. 350 comments or whatever!) but Western,. I really gotta ask …
Mr Yoon
might wanna check for something on your nose ...
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
I simply like to keep it classy...
and since I don’t know Jon Yoon. I went with Mr. Yoon as opposed to Yoon or Jon or hey that guy.
OUTSTANING POST
Well put westernchief. we’ll get ours. Just believe………….
Not wanting KC to over spend is not the same as thinking we don't have cap room.
Let’s say I have $5,000 in the bank (I wish). I go out shopping for a flatscreen and the store has two to choose from. The first is priced at $3,000 but because I’ve done my homework I know it’s only worth about $2,000. The other is priced at $1,500 and is worth about that same amount. The first TV is the “better” TV, but I would rather not over pay, buy the cheaper TV and still have money in the bank to buy a surround sound system.
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
hey Porkchop ...
just wondering …
Let’s say I have $5,000 in the bank/
… can I get a loan?
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
and how did that block get so BIG???
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
It's simple...
You want players that are playing for the game…not the money.
I didnt read your post, but it isnt right for the Chiefs
I’m tired of all of this deep voo-doo that people see behind the acts of Pioli.
So far, he has been underaverage in office.Tyson Jackson Sucks. Matt Cassel has potential, but was in reality no better then Tyler Thigpen.
All of this, well 2-14 is worse then 4-12, is like saying getting shot in the heart is better then getting shot in the head. They are both horrible.
Get aggressive. Leigh Bodden is traveling to Houston right now, after he gets signed. There is no one worth signing to play opposite of Flowers (A HUGE NEED). Call Bodden right now, and offer him higher then whatever the Texans are. Get Aggressive pioli. Your acting like a pansy
Bodden. Are you serious?
This is what we resort to? How sad is it when you want to drop a large sum of money on Leigh Bodden. You admit you didn’t read the post and I presume you are reading much of the chatter around the League regarding the talent and the overpaying of players in this free agent market.
Making a move out of desparation rarely fixes anything. Most good teams are built not purchased in the short term.
Spend money to spend money
its a good strategy.
The Redskins have had a tremendous streak of success lately, emulating their championship runs will lead us to the promised land as well.
can I help?
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The Redskins have had a tremendous streak of success lately, emulating their championship runs will lead us to the promised land as well.
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

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