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Around SBN: The Gift Of The 2003 Tigers

Bernard Pollard received a first round tender from the Texans.

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One mans trash truley is another man’s treasure?

by Bims on Mar 4, 2010 1:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Think we can get him?

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

by oldchiefsfan on Mar 4, 2010 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

They want to keep him.

That’s for sure. I don’t think any other teams would pay that price.

Charles to the 20... 10... TOUCHDOWN! KANSAS CITY!

by Falcon58 on Mar 4, 2010 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

Que the "Beating Dead Horse" picture.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 4, 2010 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

Touche.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 4, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

who cares

once he gets comfortable there he will start acting up like he did here. If they dont get their program right this coming year the house is going to get cleaned, and when someone new comes in is when B.P. will start up again.

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 4, 2010 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

Wow. 11 comments in a row...

Without someone saying how it was such a mistake to cut Pollard. That certainly must be a record.

by Scott B. on Mar 4, 2010 1:46 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

He just fits the Tampa 2 better

Is why he’s doing so good in Houston.. Good for him though.. I’m glad he’s made a name for himself, I don’t wish failure on anyone.. Except you Norv Turner I hate you so much

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 4, 2010 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

Don't forget about LJ.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 4, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

NFLN said LJ is a decent older FA RB pickup to some team this offseason!

that is when i shut it off last night, i was in shock.

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 4, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yup him too

and for some reason I really hate the Eagles.. I think it’s because they call for their best players’ heads if they don’t win the super bowl. Ungrateful fans

KRRRAKATAWAA

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 4, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Pollard wouldn't have received that high of a tender

…had it not been for the uncapped season. Teams are far more likely to tender any player they see as being at all capable of starting, because overpaying a smidgen gives them better options in the draft and the rest of free agency than creating a hole at the position. Don’t forget that they can withdraw the tender or cut/trade the player.

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 4, 2010 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

Only, he's a bit more to that team than "just capable of starting"

I mean, the guy came in and made plays. Yea, he gave up some too — but no more than the guy he replaced, I’m sure. And he improved the run defense and brought a whole lot of intensity in general.

Only reason we got rid of em because of all the jaw-jacking.

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius

by ArrowSpread on Mar 4, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

You're definitely right

But I’m saying that teams are a lot more likely to elevate their tender levels, or to offer guys who in past years wouldn’t have received tender at all, in this uncapped situation.

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 4, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Yea I hear ya...

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius

by ArrowSpread on Mar 4, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

much more than jaw-jacking

Statistically, he was one of the absolute worst starting safeties in 2008. He improved his tackling in 2009, but was still a HUGE liability against the pass.

by VermeilLikesToCry on Mar 4, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

You'd have a difficult time arguing his replacement was any better.

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius

by ArrowSpread on Mar 4, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Or any worse.

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Mar 4, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Also true.

Which is why I’m not even going to bother.

But talent wasn’t the main reason he was released, and I think most here would agree. It was more an issue of attitude.

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius

by ArrowSpread on Mar 4, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Brown was better against the pass, worse against the run

Brown’s 44% vs Pollard’s 75% completion against rate in 2009. 68 vs 88 QB rating against.

Not that i’m supporting Brown as a solution (should be a backup at best).

by VermeilLikesToCry on Mar 4, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Pollard was THE main reason Houston’s run D went from Joke to excellent. He deserves credit for it, and he deserved the 1st round tender. Our mistake, and it was a mistake considering the trash(Mike Brown) that replaced him, was their gain.

by dablueguy on Mar 4, 2010 2:06 PM CST reply actions  

excellent no, respectable yes

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 4, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

And I fully believe that the added intensity Pollard brought to the Texans

Elevated Cushing’s game some.

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius

by ArrowSpread on Mar 4, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Check their Run D stats pre and post Pollard. They were eye opening.

by dablueguy on Mar 4, 2010 2:19 PM CST reply actions  

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