Antrel Rolle Reportedly Expects $8 Million Per Year
by Joel Thorman on Mar 3, 2010 6:36 PM CST
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PrintArizona Cardinals S Antrel Rolle is expected to hit the open market at 11:01 PM (CST) tomorrow evening for the commencement of free agency. The Kansas City Chiefs have a need at safety so we've been wondering if they'll take a peek at the former University of Miami star.
The Cardinals are reportedly still in the hunt to retain him while the Chicago Bears are the name with which he's most often linked.
The Chiefs? No signs of interest at this point, but if they want him, they'll have to pay, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune.
Rolle is expecting a contract that averages $8 million annually, one source with knowledge of the situation said. That's going to be a hard figure to reach. He already has turned down a contract offer from the Cardinals that averages more than $6 million annually, the source said.
Only three safeties average more than $7 million per year. They're all strong safeties: Adrian Wilson, Troy Polamalu and Bob Sanders. None averages $8 million, although Rolle's teammate in Arizona, Wilson, comes closest at $7.938 million.
That is very, very expensive if you didn't know.
The average salary of the top five highest paid free safeties: $6.25 million.
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That number doesn't include a third of the roster
It’s just whose under contract for 2010…right now we’ve got like 18 players that aren’t.
And…there is no salary cap OR floor, which means most teams are likely to spend significantly less in 2010.
He's not worth it IMO
I know you generally have to overpay FA’s but I’ve never been all that impressed with Rolle to begin with.
Agree
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
Overpriced for me, Overpriced for Pioli
We can dream, but he is not the best safety in the league, and shouldn’t be paid like it. Would be a good pick-up, but he wants money, and I doubt we give it to him. Oh well
funny....hes really funny
Vince Wilfork will be Scott Pioli's top offseason priority and will be a Chief.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson=
Wonder if Berry is going to average 8 million a year when we pick him #5?
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
5 years 40 million
what does the #5 pick slot pay?
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
I like how you think Steve...
when we pick him at #5
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
This is exactly where I was thinking...
Glad that Steve was already on it!
Go Chiefs!!!!
What's with the bears?
Didn’t think they really ever made a big splash in FA yet Peppers/Rolle both linked to them?
The whole organization is on death watch
If they don’t win this year…they’re gone. Owner is gunna clean house.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking maybe the owner was on Death-watch
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
He's old, but not that old
It’s the same reason they had such a hard time finding an OC. It’s a one year gig and everyone knows it.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
Don't need him if we pick Berry
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
Don't need to pick Berry is we sign him.
Actually…don’t need to pick Berry at all…
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
thats ridiculous
Berry would make our D signifigantly better. He’s better than Rolle right now!
by BiiG_C on Mar 3, 2010 7:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Umm no...
Ridiculous is spending a top 5 pick on a freaking Safety when you have gigantic holes in the front 7 and OL.
Ridiculous is tabbing a guy who has never played a down in the NFL as being better than one of the best Safeties in the league.
Ridiculous is developing a mancrush on a guy based largely on silly highlight reels and Mel Kiper’s hairdo.
Ridiculous is thinking because you say he’ll make our D better that it automatically makes it true.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Satch I have no idea if any of the top prospects is worth 10 cents
But like a lottery ticket 5 of them are going to cash in.
Bulaga
Okung
a couple of QB’s that should be 2nd rounders
Dan Williams
I would be all for trading up for Suh (using DJ as the bait, not Dorsey)
I would be all for now a small trade up to get Okung
I see Berry as a Cornerback just like Haden.
Who do you propose, cause I remember quite a lot but for the life of me I can’t remember if you said who YET :)
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
I have said over and over that we should draft the best available LT.
I don’t pretend to know more about the prospects than NFL personnel folks, so whatever name fits that description for Pioli works for me. I have seen Okung and Williams play quite a bit, so I feel qualified to have an opinion. Okung I like, Williams not so much. Have seen Iowa some…Bulaga looks like a player. Have not seen Maryland at all, so won’t make some uneducated remarks about Campbell. Same with Rutgers and Davis.
Acceptabel fall back positions are CB, NT, LB and WR. You don’t waste a top 5 pick on a Safety when you have huge holes in your front 7. You don’t take RBs in the top 5 when you have a great one. We’re committed to our QB so, for now, I’m comfortable not taking one.
Lockdown corners are the most difficult players to find with teh exception of franchise QB, so when you see one, you have to consider it. I have seen Haden play a ton, and believe strongly he is the real deal.
NT is very important and we don’t have one. Picking one is not a bad idea. Especially if that NT is named Suh. For those people reading this who don’t think Suh can play NT, don’t bother responding. You won’t convince me and I won’t bother to try and convince you.
We have a need for 3 new starting LBs, so taking one would be fine. The need is most compelling at ILB, but a pass rushing OLB certainly is worth considering as well. I have not seen any LB in this draft that looks like a top 5 guy, but Pioli has certainly seen more games than I have.
WR is acceptable if they see a guy in teh Fitzgerald/Johnson mold. I don’t think Bryant qualifies. If they do…so be it.
The problem around here is folks form their opinions based on what they read and by watching highlight tapes. It’s silly. If you (not you personally) haven’t seen a guy play in games…full games…in context…you don’t know what you’re talking about and shouldn’t act like you do.
I have seen at least 10 Tennessee games the past 2 years. Berry is certainly a very good player. Is he slam dunk, sure fire, the-next-Ed Reed? Umm no. Ed Reed wasn’t even the next Ed Reed in college. Berry, just like any other college player, may or may not develop. Considering that everyone coming out is a question mark, the best move is always to go with positions that are harder to fill. Safety is the least important, easiest to fill position in a 3-4.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Because he's good...not great
When you have a chance to get a great LT…you do it. Albert is a good LT. H would be a great LG. 2 great players on the OL > none.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
How do you know any of the LT
in the draft are going to be great? And I would argue that Albert will be great just look at the last 6 six games last year, 0 sacks, and two of those were against the nfl sack leader.
I don't know if they'll be great
and I don’t get paid to make that decision. We’ll agree to differ on Albert. He did a good job the last 6 games. At no point did I see him dominating the guy across from him. I watched Roaf and Alt just destroy guys for years. I am comfortable that I know what a dominating LT looks like. Albert isn’t it imo. If he’s good enough for you…cool. We’re both entitled to our opinions.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
But unless Im mistaken
the zone blocking scheme is not meant for you to destroy the guy lining up opposite of you
You are mistaken
There is no scheme where you don’t want to destroy the guy you’re assigned to block. Zone blocking effects who you block…not how much you want to dominate them.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
This is a quote describing zone blocking
Zone blocking is a technique in American football that is a simple and effective scheme for creating lanes for running plays.
In a zone blocking scheme, fleet-footedness and athletic ability trump size as desirable qualities in offensive linemen. Coordination and technique matter more than muscle in implementing a successful scheme because defensive linemen are often double-teamed at the point of attack. Creating movement on the defensive line is more important than opening a specific hole in the defense.
And?
Where in that Wiki does it say:
“But you don’t want your lineman to dominate the guy he’s blocking and drive him into the ground.”
Yes….the ZB does not specify exactly where the hole will be. However…dominating your man is quite useful in creating a hole somewhere.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just glad Satchmo isn't GM
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
You and all the other Berry Fanboys
do you guys have T-Shirts printed up yet? ;)
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
lol not yet...waiting for him to get drafted
and saying my prayers that God sends an angel to sit on Pioli’s shoulder and whisper in his ear when the call comes for our #5 pick….(whispering) “Pick Berry! Pick Berry!”
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just glad none of us will be sitting on his shoulder
that would be weird and awkward and would like get his shirt dirty. I really hope, no matter who he drafts, that we’re all willing to give the draftee the benefit of the doubt because none of us know nearly as much about this as Pioli does.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
…lol but Pioli does have broad enough shoulders to put one of us on each
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
I think Suh can play NT
and he is better than McCoy, at least in college anyway. I never saw McCoy dominate a game the way I saw Suh dominate and I’m an OU fan.
I don't doubt he can play NT...I just doubt he can play the kind of NT that we need
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
omg Satch! that Bar-B-Q is on me, brother!
you so hit the proverbial nail on the head …
Ridiculous is spending a top 5 pick on a freaking Safety when you have gigantic holes in the front 7 and OL
… I’ll even spring for the side dishes!
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
do u think we could somehow talk him down?
You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday
Cassel can lead us.
Not if someone else is offering more
If you were being offered say 8 MILLION/year, would you let someone talk you into less?
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
well no but all im hopeful for is him asking for 8 mil. and everyone just laughing in his face
and say ur worth 6 million tops.
You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday
Cassel can lead us.
That wouldn't be us talking him down
that would be league owners showing some self restraint. Really expect that to happen? ;)
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
ummmmmmmmmmmm
league owners showing some self restraint
… not in THIS lifetime
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Hes better than what we got
but not a top five safety
worth it or not, at the end of the day, I think he ends up back in AZ.
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
I say pay the man the 8 million AND draft Berry. We can move Berry to corner and have the best secondary in the league (Well almost)
Joe
Raiders Suck!!!
who are you gonna have at safety then?
Safety, not Corner, is our weakest link in the D next to NT
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
But we could use both of them...hehe
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
ILB is the weakest part of our D next to NT
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
But we don't need to take an ILB in the first round to get a good one
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
We also don’t need to take a S in the first round to get a good one.
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by KCSatchmo on Mar 3, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
just remember
Berry isn’t just a safety….he’s a true all around DB…he’s also an outstanding K/P returner…maybe better than anyone else coming out of the draft.
We can get a decent S later, but can anyone be chosen in this year’s draft that will improve our pass defense and run defense and special teams altogether more than Berry?
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
He's an outstanding K/P returner???
You do know that he only returned like 3 kicks this past year… for about 21 yards? Just an FYI this was against Kentucky(last game of the season).
In 08 he returned two kicks for 32 yards.
That is far from outstanding.
Go Chiefs!!!!
I stand corrected...he CLAIMS to be an outstanding K returner
I shouldn’t make assumptions from what these guys say in their interviews with Josh Looney…lol
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 3, 2010 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
well in THAT case ...
I claim to be Emperor of the Universe … huzzah! now, off with you, and bring back the best Bar-B-Q in the land … and don’t forget the side dishes!
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Ya... back in High School
He also claimed that he was going to have a big surprise for folks at the UK game.
Unfortunately he didn’t show off his ’kick returning skills."
Go Chiefs!!!!
Hell, draft Myron too
You could have Rolle and Rolle as safeties with Flowers and Berry at corner.
Joe
Raiders Suck!!!
Not to mention
Rolle is DJ’s age, While Berry is fresh outta college, so whos going to be younger when that 5 year deal is up?
Rolle WAS a corner his first few years in the league…
ANNND…
As much as i love Berry, last year it was foregone conclusion, at least in my mind, that Aaron Curry was gunna be a Chief. Should I be worried about my extreme optimism that Berry will be in KC?
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