Trade Proposal
by CapitolLions on Mar 3, 2010 9:18 AM CST
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PrintKansas City Gets:
Detroits 5th Round Pick
Denver Gets:
2nd overall pick from Detroit
Detroit Gets:
Jamal Charles
Denvers 2nd round Pick
This seems like if could do a lot for all the teams. I know you KC fans are not going to be keen on losing Charles, but you take Spiller in the 1st and your offense gets pretty nasty with Marshall, Bowe, Spiller and Buckhalter
What do you think?
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I think I skipped a heartbeat
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
Haha same here
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
OMFG I did too!
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
No thanks
personally, i’d rather KC keep the high character guy in Charles and find a WR in the draft and signing a FA RB. KC has too many needs in the trenches to take a RB in the first round.
not financially smart
we are not paying charles that much, and we would have to give, spiller, marshall big contracts. plus marshall doesn’t fit the “right 53”…..
Um...NO!!!!
and…did I say NO!!!!? Ok…good…not a snowball’s chance that would ever happen.
Charles is staying in KC no matter what anyone would offer KC for him. I guarantee it.
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
You are SMOKING CRACK!!!!!
1) Haley don’t like Gunnther any more
2) We need more RB’s,
3) And i don’t think we will do any dealings with Denver
JC is untouchable…
I think I was the first one to read this proposal...
…I just really wasn’t sure what to say. Having given it some thought, I’m pretty sure the pitchforks and torch crowd would charge 1 Arrowhead Drive if this happened, or perhaps even just if Charles was dealt anywhere.
As the others anotated, Marshall doesn’t fit our gameplan, “the Right 53”, in fact I think he’s one of those I would have trouble watching the Chiefs if he was on the team. Second, I have no real opinion of Buckhalter, but trading the one solid part of our offense, who is young and has some years left for a 31 year old running back doesn’t sit right for me. Lastly, assuming we don’t follow your suggestion and draft Spiller (who I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere on AP as a possibility due to our other needs), how likely is Denver to poach on what may be our pick with the #2 they get from Denver then?
All that said, thanks for coming over and making some suggestions. Don’t let the guys who are more likely to freak out discourage you. In the end, nobody knows what the GMs in the NFL will pull come FA and the Draft, particularly a guy like Pioli.
Never mind that the trade values aren't anywhere close to correct.
But it’s not Madden. You don’t get to poach one of the best young RB’s in the game right now for a lifetime backup RB, a lazy/basketcase WR, and a 5th rounder.
It’s like us asking for Megatron for Jason Peters, Jon McGraw and a 4th rounder in a three way deal.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
LOL...
Ill come back with something better. You KC fans are tough nuts to crack!
http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/
How about...
we give you Glenn Dorsey for a swap in the 1st and your 2nd rounder. You get a high profile DT and will be able to get a franchise LT at #5. You get to have your cake and eat it to.
Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09
I think a Lions fan is jealous that KC might have one of the top 2 RBs in 2010.
Tell you what, throw in Brandon Pettigrew, Calvin Johnson, and your 2010 2nd round pick and we might talk then.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 3, 2010 10:08 AM CST reply actions
Easy Turbo
Charles is very good. Top 2 no.
http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/
by CapitolLions on Mar 3, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
I dunno...
we havent seen his full potential yet.
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
in 2010, Charles could very well be the number one or two RB in the NFL. 1120 yards on190 carries, 5.8 yards a carry behind a average to below average line? he only played 15 games and ONLY STARTED 10, and he’s only “very good”? not to mention he’s can also be a receiving threat.
if “very good” only elicits the number two pick in what many consider the best draft since ‘83, i’d hate to see what you would give up for an “excellent” player.
What he said.
I said top 2 and I’m sticking with it.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 3, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Turbo
Probably JC’s new nickname. I mean he’s just so fast you don’t get to see him. By the time you do he’s dancing in the endzone.
Toby Gerhart: The Thunder to Jamaal Charles' Lightning.
True and Valuable Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"
(which for the most part we are currently loosing).
No one posted better 2nd half stats than JC other than CJ.
If the schedule is a predictor and JC is fine he will be one of the best. And yes could be top 2 if not the first.
Toby Gerhart: The Thunder to Jamaal Charles' Lightning.
True and Valuable Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"
(which for the most part we are currently loosing).
A few minor changes:
Kansas City gets:
Calvin Johnson
Brandon Marshall
Detroit’s 2nd rounder
Denver’s 2nd rounder
Detroit gets:
Derrick Johnson
Correll Buckhalter
KC’s 2nd 5th rounder
Denver gets:
A swift kick in the nuts
McDaniels gets to smell Cassel’s jock strap
Seems pretty fair to me. ( ;
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
by BigRedChief on Mar 3, 2010 10:08 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
lol.
Yeah, I could live with that. I’m sure Gun would love to have DJ again.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 3, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah and when we draft Cody we will throw in his shirtless picture for both teams as part of the deal.
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
I'm sure Gun would like that too....
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 3, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
No Way! They would have to throw in a 7th rounder or somthin' for that.
That there is Gold. Can’t be just giving that shit away.
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
I suppose we can let them by with a 7th
Even though it would be a 5th with autograph :)
Toby Gerhart: The Thunder to Jamaal Charles' Lightning.
True and Valuable Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"
(which for the most part we are currently loosing).
for the same reason KC doesn't
Charles is a stud
http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/
by CapitolLions on Mar 3, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
well Gunther is.....well....Gunther
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
Good WR are harder to find than good RB's.
RB’s are a dime a dozen.
Plus we get a 5th round pick without really giving anything up.
Very true, but
Brandon Marshall has the making of a cancer. I’ll take the star RB who is not a cancer; over the star WR who is a cancer.
i was with you until the part about jamaal
STAY AWAY FROM HIM!!!
You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday
Cassel can lead us.
NO! x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 ...
1) Jamaal Charles is too valuable to us
2) Brandon Marshall is NOT part of The Right 53 by ANY stretch of the imagination
those two key points are all any Chiefs fan needs to look at to know this would be a totally insane thing to do … and will never happen
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
SCREW THAT!! Your out of your mind! You are NOT getting Jamaal Charles.
We have potentially the very best RB in football with a very low paycheck to dish out for some years to come. LOL!! I almost peed my pants laughing after I got my breath back. Trade JC. Your nuts! Pioli would have to move to Dallas if he got rid of Charles. He’s all we have going for us man.
We would have to have another first and another 2nd to even remotely consider such a thing.
In other words, no team could afford to buy him from us. Not even close
2nd – This is a fanshot and has no business knocking legitimate Chiefs Posts off the board by being in our fanpost area. It’s silly, it’s a waste of space and you can tell by the response what we think of it.
For God sakes. Someone remove this post please.
If it had no business here
people wouldn’t be responding. Its fun. I welcome you to post whatever trade you like on www.prideofdetroit.com and we will demolish it, just as you have this.
So Chill out.
Charles is a beast.
http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/
by CapitolLions on Mar 3, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I appreciate you coming here.
Dont take it hard or anything, but Jamaal is, as Krayfish said, all we got. Without him, it may be yet another miserable season.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Mar 3, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
You should...
of drafted him when you had the chance two years ago. I know Kevin Smith was considered an every down player, but Jamal was explosive. I can’t believe he fell to us to this day.
Draft prediction top 10 - 1. Bradford 2. Suh (Chiefs trade up) 3. McCoy 4. Claussen (trade Campbell to Carolina, trade for J Brown) 5. Okung (Detroit) 6. Berry 7. Haden 8. Campbell 9. Davis (Bills trade for Vick) 10. Morgan (Jags draft Tebow in 2nd round) 2/23/09
Didn't say you couldn't put stuff up here. Just pointing out that it should be a fanshot.
We Chiefs fans have the fanposts for our news and our posts. I don’t mind peeps from other sites posting here either once in awhile. We have had some really good correspondence back and forth. But this is not a FANPOST! And it’s not Chiefs news. It’s a fanshot!!!
Lastly. I’m sure you love your Lions, but I would never post there. I hate the Lions. I’m a
Chiefs fan. Just next time try to throw it up in the fanshot section.
by krayfish on Mar 3, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Settle down Kray, man you are fired up. I like your enthusiasm but....
….it wasn’t that long ago that we had the FanPost section filled with the mind o’ Kray, or Cup o’ Kray, or Cup o’ Kray now with extra noodles (your choice). AP and Pride-of-Detroit are probabaly worlds apart in blog etiquett. Not to mention that the FanShot section is where posts go to die. Cut him some lack Bro.
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
by BigRedChief on Mar 3, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How dare you Sir! <>
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
by BigRedChief on Mar 3, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
{{slaps you with glove}}
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
by BigRedChief on Mar 3, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
careful ... he LIKES that
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Mar 3, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Good point.
{{Turns to upamtn and slaps him with a glove}}
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
by BigRedChief on Mar 3, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No it's even worse Ups. He was here for the Cup runneth over post lol!
He knows what he’s blackmailing me with. I have no choice but to comply. I will read and enjoy this post if you agree never to mention the cup o’ Kray post again. Deal?? (-:
by krayfish on Mar 3, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I make no promises.... I can be your best friend or your worst enemy. ( ;
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
by BigRedChief on Mar 3, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
In this case you have the upper hand sir. I must acquiess (did I spell that right)?
by krayfish on Mar 3, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If you must acquiess then please do it in the bathroom.
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
by BigRedChief on Mar 3, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I rec this whole thread
Still working on my most rec’s given award :)
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
You are out of your mind
Lose Charles, a good kid, a young talented back who appears to be all about the TEAM
Gain Marshall, a cry-baby, locker room cancer, malcontent prima-donna receiver who cares only about himself.
HELL NO!!
The Chiefs will take a defensive player with 3 out of their first 4 picks in 2010
I like this fairmont guy!! We got another opinionated Chief fan Up's!
Haven’t seen Sea of Red much lately or RDO guy. Some guys probably take a break for a couple weeks after the season. Some people aren’t addicted!!
Careful Kray...
Your gonna make me cry
The Chiefs will take a defensive player with 3 out of their first 4 picks in 2010
I'd rather have the badass D
and a mid-tier O for 2010. No thanks.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
The mentioning of us trading JC...
keep dreaming my friend. Never happen, makes absolutely no sense…
lions fans…
Hey I hear Mike Williams is looking for a tryout. Could be a steal.
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
Doesn't everyone?
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
The funny thing is he is probably big enough to play NT by now!
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
Somehow Losing Charles for Marshal doesn't appeal to me
but a GM may look at this as good value, seeing as RB’s are easier to find than WR’s
KRRRAKATAWAA
every time someone comments in this post I get depressed. Stop it. Stop coming here.
Don’t talk about Charles leaving us. He will be here forever.
or 5 years
which ever comes first
You sometimes learn something everyday.
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden
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