Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 3/3
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Mar 3, 2010 5:54 AM CST
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Good morning, AP. Here's a tall, cool glass (more of a shot glass actually, slow day) of Kansas City Chiefs news. Cheers.
The pro football world has been focused on Lucas Oil Stadium for the better part of the last week as the NFL Combine went down.
What a gold mine for Indianapolis. There were more than 2,000 visitors checked into hotels at the end of February. That’s a convention business that any city would love to have in the winter months, especially one where the snow fell for several days. That’s 11,000 to 12,000 hotel room nights for the week. Indianapolis’ downtown restaurants were packed all week with club personnel, agents, folks from the NFL Players Association, media, job seekers and players.
And all of it – the Combine, the hotel nights, the packed restaurants, the newspaper and Internet datelines – could have been in Kansas City.
What Could Have Been … Wednesday Cup O’Chiefs from Bob Gretz
A popular option among the fans last year was to sign Orlando Pace and put him at left tackle in hopes of upgrading the offensive line.
The Chiefs made no move for Pace and he wound up signing a rich contract with the Bears. Pace was so bad the Bears just dumped him but are out some serious cash for their mistake.
So credit to the Chiefs for not just taking the plunge for a big name. In this case, and probably some others, they're better off having been out of the game.
That said, the Chiefs must have a better experience with free agency than last year. And they can't ignore their quarterback again.
Give the Chiefs some props for this one from The Red Zone
When Joe Haden went off to college at the University of Florida he planned on playing quarterback. There was one problem with that: the Gators already had a quarterback, fellow by the name of Tebow, first name Tim......He moved to cornerback and after three years, he’s preparing to move on to the NFL. Coming into the 2010 NFL Combine, Haden was rated as the No. 1 pure cornerback prospect and is considered a top 10 choice in April’s NFL Draft.
Haden talked about his changing of positions and his future at Lucas Oil Stadium.
NFL Combine: CB Joe Haden from Bob Gretz
Monday’s NFL Scouting Combine highlighted the defensive linemen and linebackers, two places where the Chiefs could use a major influx of talent. Two tackles, Nebraska’s Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy of Oklahoma are expected to go in the top three picks, so it’s highly doubtful either one of them will be available for the Chiefs. After that, however, the Chiefs might make someone who starred at the Combine Monday with their first pick.
One thing Chiefs fans learned last year is that Head Coach Todd Haley and General Manager Scott Pioli won’t hesitate to take someone projected to go in the lower half of the first round with a Top-5 pick (see: Jackson, Tyson LSU) if the Chiefs can’t trade out of that pick.
Here are the prospects from Monday that stood out to me:Defensive stars shine at Combine and the Chiefs could bite from Examiner.net
Football legend Billy Cannon is the LSU Alumni Association’s Alumnus of the Year.
He will be inducted into the association’s Hall of Distinction on April 16.
The LSU All-American halfback led the 1958 team to the Tigers’ first national championship. He won the Heisman Trophy as a senior and remains LSU’s only Heisman winner.
Cannon’s 89-yard punt return on Halloween night in 1959 against Ole Miss is ranked as one of the most dramatic plays in college football history.
Cannon enjoyed a nine-year career in the American Football League — with the Houston Oilers and the Oakland Raiders — and ended his professional football career in 1970 with the NFL’s Kansas City Chiefs. He was named to the College Football Hall of Fame in 2008.
Cannon named LSU Alumnus of Year from 2TheHeadAdvocate.com
The exhibit is a collection of papers, photos and memorabilia of the Prairie View Interscholastic League (PVIL). The PVIL, which began in 1920, served as the governing body for Texas’ African American high schools until 1970 when the University Interscholastic League (UIL) assumed the role. At its peak, the PVIL represented 500 schools......The PVILCA board tries to award at least 40 lifetime memberships each year. The youngest living participant is 57.
Two highly anticipated 2010 inductees are Otis Taylor of the Kansas City Chiefs and Charles Edward Greene — or "Mean Joe" — of the Pittsburgh Steelers. A lifetime membership only requires that an individual be a high school graduate and a former PVIL athlete or coach.
Exhibit features African American high schools from The University of Texas website
The Chiefs contingent joined the rest of the league in Indianapolis for the NFL Combine and the depth of talent in this year's class has the club excited about holding three of the first 53 selections and eight choices overall."There's quite a bit of talent," said head coach Todd Haley. "What has me excited is not only the fifth pick (in the first round) but the two (second-round picks) and the fact we'll have the chance to acquire a handful of players that can have an impact in a short amount of time."
Impact is definitely needed for this Chiefs draft as the team continues the rebuilding process.
Kansas City Chiefs Team Report from USA Today
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i doubt it
way to expensive, and who the hell wants to watch it snow from inside?
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
I'd LOVE to see a Super Bowl in KC...
…but I’d rather it be because the NFL changed their BS rules about where a Super Bowl may be played, than because we added a roof to our stadium. I take the Ditka philosophy: “Indoor domes should be used for roller rinks.”
At the very least, I wonder what the cost would be to simply add some kind of TEMPORARY roof to the stadium solely to use it for a Super Bowl. Not unlike the self-supported fabric dome that the HHH Metrodome has. Probably not cheap to justify one game, though.
I’d really like to see that “covered stadium/warm climate” specification lifted. It really takes away from the heart of the game.
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
completely agree jbj
i want to see an outdoor superbowl, with snow and inclement weather! That is why the game is played in the fall/winter, so we can see the snow and rain!
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
Short sided thought from Jackson County residents.
It costs too much, Johnson county isn’t paying, its not fair…yadda yadda yadda. Think of the econmic impact that roof would’ve had on the City. Too late now!!
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
its very difficult, if not impossible to do
Just look at how poorly politicians and economists have projected revenues the last few years around the country.
As well, there was no guarantee of landing anything outside of the Superbowl in 2015, and that is no guarantee of economic windfall, see Jacksonville, Fla.
It’s very difficult to measure the economic impact of the events that Bob Gretz discusses, because there is to much supposition. Would it be nice for KC to have the opportunity to host all that stuff? Yes. But ultimately who would benefit? Would the taxpayers really see a return on that investment? I’d argue not really.
There would need to be a major thought shift in local politics and county management to make the effort of becoming a host for these events feasible and profitable. That’s the real key in Bob’s story, Indy officials made it a mandate to become what they now are, by making it a priority and planning for it they were able to be successful. Just building a roof over Arrowhead with no real direction or leadership in the community would have just led to another tax and a roof paid for with primarily public funds.
If someone really wanted the roof they could have found private money to pay for it. Revenue sharing, first rights on building, exclusive rights for advertising, I could go on and on, but a lot more should have been done to bring in private investors who would also stand to benefit the most from what a roof could have brought. But this is a discussion for another time, and worrying about what ifs and trying to look back won’t move us forward.
by tebunker on Mar 3, 2010 8:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Super Bowl's impact alone would be huge.
Finding other events to put people into Arrowhead during the offseason (especially this time of year) wouldn’t be that difficult. The tax payers would see that money in the form of jobs created. which im sure no matter what side of KC you are on, you would find more jobs to be of great benefit to the whole Metro right now.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
But i didn't live any where near close to KC then.
I was just trying to poke the fire. :)
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Just do a google search...
And you’ll find plenty of articles about the overall impact of the Superbowl on host city’s. The consensus seems to be that it really doesn’t benefit the community too much. It’s the same problem with the Olympics. These host city’s spend millions to upgrade the area, putting in more hotels, dining areas, better transportation, but in the end it’s still the local residents that have to maintain and support these new businesses once these events come and go. And it’s apparent now that KC residents can barely support the businesses we have now. The only thing that would happen is we would be left with some nice, new, empty buildings and people without jobs.
Ive read an know many of these articles
and I agree to a certain point, but you are looking at only the SB. With the roof many more events would be held at Arrowhead in turn putting people into these new hotels and restaraunts thus creating more tax revenues and jobs which also creates more tax revenues. You have to look at the big pictures.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Wasn't it not long ago...
that city leaders were crying out for a new arena to be built downtown claiming that we could not only create new jobs in the surrounding area but bring in a new sports franchise (i.e. NHL or NBA)? That it would help boost the local economy tremendously? The last time I checked the Sprint center is still having trouble finding a permanent tenant and instead having to rely on the occasional concert or some niche event like bull riding competitions. And local businesses are still left wondering when that huge boost in revenue is coming. The point is, yes you have to look at the big picture but a roof doesn’t necessarily mean we would get all these great events. If anything, the Sprint Center has shown that KC would be used as a pawn by these organizations to get other cities to meet their demands.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Mar 3, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Finding, Securing, and Convincing a professional sports franchise
to relocate to a different city (KC) has absolutely nothing to do with adding a rolling roof to the TSC. There is a huge difference between the hope of landing a sports franchise and organizations such as the NFL GUARANTEEING we will get a SuperBowl (and probably more than 1), NCAA final fours, THE NFL COMBINE EVERY YEAR…., and a myriad of other events. You’re talking about two totally different arguments. We’re not talking about building a new Truman Sports Complex… we’re talking about adding a rolling roof. A Multitude of events was already lined up for Kansas City had the roof passed. There was NOTHING lined up for the Sprint Center when it was built.
You mean...
we were in the running for a multitude of events? Bob’s article never mentions that we were a 100% lock for anything. Instead he uses words like “chance” and “in the running”. My major concern would be that they would go through all of that trouble to attract Superbowl and other events only to watch them slip away. Then we would be left with shiny new hotels and other areas near TSC without any real means of sustainability. If we had been locked in, 100% guaranteed to be the definitive host of the 2015 Superbowl, the new host city of the NFL Combine and all kinds of other events then I think KC residents would have voted differently. We Chiefs fans will watch our team play no matter what conditions, rain, sleet, or snow. And requiring a roof to be built just so that we could be slated to maybe host the 2015 Superbowl for the benefit of NFL fatcats and superstars who can afford the ticket prices just isn’t a good enough reason.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Mar 3, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
Blame the Hunts
If the Hunts really wanted this rolling roof they could have paid for it! The roof would have paid for itself within the first six years through sponsorships,Ncaa final four, super bowl, combine and possibly a political convention.
That roof cost 200million I believe, that money would have been made up so quick with all the things the Chiefs would have been able to do at arrowhead, not only that the NFL gave the Chiefs a loan for the rebuild of arrowhead so the chiefs could have got an interest free loan from the league!
The Hunts are still “super” cheap!!
South Side D
The Hunts have dumped a huge amount of their own money into the Arrowhead refurbishment project.
The initial figure was to be $125 million contributed by the hunts and I believe they have added an additional $70 million since to project began. You might want to check the facts before calling the Hunts “super cheap.”
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
I thought I read somewhere that the NFL was going to start to consider....
….cold climate stadiums, and even open ones, after the Superbowl in Detroit. I could be wrong but I swear I read that somewhere.
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
The NFL may "consider" it, but they will never do it.
The Superbowl hasn’t been about the fans in a long, long time. Hardly any real fans get to attend the game. The game is normally attended by corporate fat cats and those assholes could never be expected to sit in the cold.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Isn't that what the fancy skyboxes are for?
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
That's just the regular season games.
Think of the Superbowl as one big fancy skybox.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
NJ, great job as ALWAYS - thank you!
1) Rolling Roof idea is long gone
2) Other Roof idea COULD happen someday, if Hunt foots the bill
3) ‘Spoon looking GOOD – nice writeup in Examiner (I’d cut off kray’s right arm for … )
4) Go Royals Chiefs
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
A Superbowl every 5 or so years, Final Fours on the same schedule, Wrestlemania’s on the same schedule. A Mega boxing match every now and again. The KC residents really blew it with their short sighted thinking, but the Chiefs should have just paid for it themselves, and then reaped the benefits of all those events, and more, that a covered Arrowhead would have been able to procure
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