Golden Tate Looks Good At Notre Dame Pro Day
At the NFL Combine in February (which seems like an eternity ago), Notre Dame WR Golden Tate told reporters, including AP's Matt Conner, that he wouldn't mind one bit to playing for his former coach Charlie Weis.
"It's always a dream to play for the coach who taught you and made you into the receiver that you are," Tate said.
Then it's a good thing he put in a solid showing at Notre Dame's pro day on Tuesday.
NFL.com's Gil Brandt calls Tate an early second round pick and said he "caught the ball well in position drills." Tate did not perform any other workouts preferring to stand on his Combine numbers.
The Chiefs of course qualify under the "early second round pick" category.
If the Chiefs decide to attend Jimmy Clausen's workout for NFL scouts on April 9th, then they can get another up-close look at Tate, who will catch passes from Clausen that day.
However, it's definitely not necessary for the Chiefs to attend Clausen's workout or the Notre Dame pro day for that matter.
Charlie Weis is the one who recruited every player on the roster. They may know more about the ND roster than any other team in the NFL.
(H/T WtexKC)
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I've been trying to think of a good comparison for Tate
He has a few problems getting separation in the intermediate routes, but he’s still probably one of the top five route-runners in the class (at least of the guys I’ve seen). Because of that, it’s hard for me to compare him to Marvin Harrison (Shipley’s a better comparison there). I guess maybe Coles would be the best comparison I could make right now. Both are a little on the short side, but have great toughness with the ball in their hands. I will say that Coles was a lot faster coming out of FSU than Tate is now, but then, Coles was the fastest Seminole since Deion I think.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 24, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions
One thing he struggles with
is catching balls thrown over the top. I watched 2 or 3 games this season and he gator armed several passes that came in over the shoulder. He also seems to think of himself as an Ocho Cinco/TO, jawing and taunting all the time, although that seemed to be pretty common at ND in general.
Personally, I don’t want him. I’d take Benn or a half dozen others over him. I want a team guy, and if he’s a speed guy, I want him to be able to catch the ball over the top.
This doesn’t have much bearing on whether we take a receiver in the second round, but I think we should take a chance on Danario Alexander late. I’ve seen some scouting reports that are definitely inaccurate, which makes me wonder how much they’ve actually watched film… several said he lacked leaping ability… he’s 6’5" with a 40"+ vertical. I know the big concern is injuries, but if we could pick him up in say, the 5th or 6th round, I think he’d be a good gamble, but I know I’m biased on this one. :-)
by u2nspenserfan on Mar 24, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions
In that respect, he does resemble a young Galloway
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 24, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Danario Alexander falling to 5th or 6th? if THAT happens I'm calling Satan to make reservations for a ski trip
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DA just flat out produces. But he doesn’t pass the eyeball test, he’s always had a new born colt look in his stride and doesn’t have the explosiveness to separate on his routs. I think he’ll get drafted somewhere between 5-7. I just hope he ends up somewhere that can use him.
by tenacious rdc on Mar 24, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree.
He could be a good possession/red zone receiver provided he can beat injuries. He’s got the height and the ability to be a really good third guy, matched up with a nickel back or safety.
I don’t think he’s going to be a star, but with a 5th or 6th round pick, if you can get a guy who gives you 40+ catches and a red zone threat for 5+ years, I think you’d have to call that pick a success. He’s also a pretty good run blocker, which we need as many of as we can get.
by u2nspenserfan on Mar 24, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the thing about Shipley: his athleticism belies general expectations
I’m not going to throw out the race card as an accusation or anything, but rather point out that there’s a documented subconscious phenomenon about positions and race. It’s most prevalent at the high school level, where for years coaches steered black players to corner, wideout, etc. and white players to linebacker and quarterback. And when people see a black quarterback, they usually think he’s an athletic, mobile guy, and I still meet people all the time who think that about Byron Leftwich. By the same token, people who see a white safety who plays like Ronnie Lott are much more likley to compare him to John Lynch than to Lott. By the same token, people are much more likely to compare Jordan Shipley to Wes Welker than to Harrison, even though Shipley’s skill set is much more like Marvin’s. It’s natural, I guess, and I don’t mean anything negative by it, but rather want to illustrate that the stereotype doesn’t always hold up. Shipley’s one of those guys. He came into UT as an all-everything speed receiver and accomplished sprinter, and while he lost a little speed as he struggled with injuries for the first couple years of his collegiate career, he has excellent acceleration, makes extremely athletic cuts, and runs the best routes. He gets separation even when he doesn’t have a footspeed advantage over his coverage. He finds holes in the zone, and a disproportionately high percentage of his catches the past two years have been across the middle.
Jordan’s not a perfect WR prospect by any stretch, because he does have an injury history, and is more suitable for the slot because of vulnerability to the jam, but my point is that his athleticism is underrated. I think that if he and every other prospect were bluescreened for the scouting film, people would be a lot less hesitant to consider him one of the top five receivers. As it is, I see a lot of lists with Brandon Lafell, Marshawn Gilyard, and Arrelious Benn ahead of him and Eric Decker, whic h they should not be.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 24, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd because it
is the truth my friend. I played strong safety in high school next to a guy (he was white) that played free safety and he made phenomenal plays on the ball every game. All the coaches were constantly trying to push him toward his other position (he was also our starting kicker) because they didn’t think he could play safety in college. I always thought it was a shame because he had the talent and athleticism to play every position in the secondary at the next level…
by Hail2DaChiefs on Mar 24, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Check this out: Mel Kiper Jr. does exactly what I was saying people do:
Justin (Austin)
Will Jordan Shipley find a place in the NFL? Where do you seem him being picked?
Mel Kiper (1:35 PM)
He definitely will. I’ve compared him to Rickey Proehl. He had a very nice career in the NFL. A nice long career. Right now, Shipley’s the third WR behind Gilyard and LaFell. After the catch, he takes it up the field quickly. He has a little Wes Welker in him. He gets away from the defender after the catch. You see that with Shipley. He gets off the line of scrimmage. He has some separation. That’s big for a WR. He is a 3rd round pick, maybe 2nd, but I’ll say 3rd conservatively.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 24, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
"Golden Tate looks good at Notre Dame Pro Day"
Duh.
Draft this kid if he goes to Round 2.
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well uh ya...
Dude…if Weiss likes him…there’s a reason for that…Honestly, I’d be surprised if we didn’t take him.
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 24, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I really worry that we will be leapfrogged because of the full night between rounds 1-2...a lot of time to think
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I'd be surprised if we did take him there...
we’ve got other issues which might be more important to the staff… we have shown we don’t take the best available already so who knows though…
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I think WR is a pretty big position of need IMO
If Tate is on the board at 2a. I do not see us passing on him.
I don't think he's a guy KC couldn't afford to NOT draft
But I think he’s definitely a good consideration at 36.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 24, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
oh if they pass on him, Haley better nab someone that can catch and make plays
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agreed
if hes there and KC doesnt take him but take someone later that isnt as productive Ill be a little upset…
a lot of the talk of gettin him at 2A has kinda stopped
i still hope we can get him at 2A because i can see him becoming a pretty solid WR in the NFL
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I am in love with golden tate at 2a....If we have to trade up...I don't think we can give up picks unless its next years picks
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Golden Tate is my 2nd favorite player in the Draft
Although he’s not a speed guy, he’s football fast.
Tate is the perfect slot receiver; a true possession guy. He’s got big hands, a compact muscular body and is outstanding at yardage after the catch – he moves the chains.
An absolute steal with our 2a pick!
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by chiefsfan62 on Mar 24, 2010 12:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I said it before ill say it again
Berry, Tate, Walton are the only picks i really want. Anyone else is icing on the cake
I won't be heartbroken if KC passes on Tate
Heck, there are lots of other prospects worthy of consideration at that point, including Shipley. I only wish Ryan Broyles were available in this draft, because despite his size, he’s one of the best redzone threats in the country.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 24, 2010 3:38 PM CDT reply actions

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