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Whilst reading the morning news from NJ Chiefs fan today, a couple of Pioli snippets caught my eye. Right there in print were direct quotes from Scott Pioli affirming what I have been screaming since about 1/2 way through last season. Something I feel very, very strong about as a Chiefs fan. The poison that creeps into the system of a losing organization. It affects everyone from coaches to players and yes, (especially) fans IMO.

Job No. 1 for Scott Pioli remains to change the losing culture that inevitably permeates an organization after it wins 10 games in three seasons, as the Chiefs have done.

He told a story about New England signing a free agent to compete with an established starter in one of his first seasons with the Patriots. The incumbent publicly complained about the lack of respect his employers were showing.

"It uncovered a reality of the culture there that was very unhealthy," Pioli said. "That was something we weren’t going to tolerate."

Star-divide

Those words are music to my ears. I first started to realize how deeply this losing culture has permeated our fan base when it became apparent that Cassel was really struggling last season. I noticed that when anyone pointed this out, the AP crowd became downright hostile. Now, it's one thing to still hold out hope and never waiver in your faith with a player. It's another to go off the deep end when someone simply states the obvious.

Oh and it wasn't just Cassel. It was anyone on our team that had ever done anything of note on our team. Take Bowe for example. He had a very impressive rookie season. He's done some impressive things along the way in his short NFL career thus far. But that doesn't make him immune to being looked and talked about realistically. He has faults. And their significant enough to merit serious consideration. Not just by us fans, but by the staff. Haley demoted Bowe to 3rd string for a reason. He didn't do it because he was bored.

The reality of any culture in the NFL where a team has not been to a SB in 40 years is bound to be damaged to some degree. As Pioli noted, it's not just football that these things apply to, it's life. No one can remain unbiased when you are emotionally invested in something, and spend a disproportionate amount of time with that thing. It doesn't matter if it's a woman that has been married to an alcoholic for any length of time. Doesn't matter if it's children who grew up in a violent household. Doesn't matter if it's a parent dealing with a wayward child. And it doesn't matter if it's your favorite NFL team. As long as you love the thing in question, you are going to be affected by it for better or for worse. And you are not going to be able to see things the way an outsider would. Because they don't have any emotional investment. So sometimes an outsider can actually provide us with a healthy perspective. Which is why I say, it was more than time to bring Pioli, an outsider, in to the fold.

I agree with Pioli. Losing organizations develop losing thought processes. Unhealthy ones. We can't expect Clark to magically know how to build a winning organization anymore than we should expect us fans to magically know how to think like fans of a winning dynasty.

Look, since we last won a single playoff game, two expansion teams have joined the NFL. They have both been to a Championship game. One of them going to the Superbowl. We haven't even been to a playoff game since. That's a problem. It is. It's not one that fans want to accept. It's not one that true fans want to look at or face up to. But it is a problem none the less.

Last year when the examples of Miami and Atlanta were brought up on AP as a beacon of hope for our team, it stirred up a lot of deep feelings amongst the AP faithful. Some of us looked to them and their impressive turn around as hope. But, immediately there was an onslaught of excuses as to why their SOOO different and we can't use them as examples. Immediately. The same was true of Cassel debates, Bowe debates and on and on. Hardly anyone said "hell yah, if they can do it so can we". That is the inevitable result of being a fan in a losing culture.

Another trend I noticed, was the IMMEDIATE willingness to settle for mediocrisy. If someone said Cassel or Bowe was not playing at a franchise starter's level, OH man, the attacks came full force. It's all part of the conditioning we have received here in KC. We are so desperate for any sign of life or hope that we are so ready, willing and able to just shove great expectations aside in lieu of "serviceable", "okay", "he'll do". What happened to demanding and expecting greatness from this once legendary organization? There's nothing wrong with that you know. Your allowed to want the best here in KC. From the coaching staff, to the players, we should demand the best.

We pay this teams salaries. That's us. We do that. You and I. Therefore, we should expect great things in return for our investment and for giving great support through thick and thin. We deserve that much. We really do. It shouldn't always be another team going to the Superbowl. It shouldn't. It's about time it was our time.

Look, Pioli's not going to be loyal to Matt Cassel, Dwayne Bowe or anybody else for that matter. NO one is safe here anymore. As it should be (for once). There is no "immunity" here in KC for players any longer. Pioli has made that clear. We would do well to get on board with him, as fans too. We need to learn from his words. Read them again carefully. It's a poison that "permeates" into a losing culture. We're a part of that losing culture guys.

I say we need a change of attitude. We need to start accepting the fact that Pioli will not settle for a player just "because". He won't keep ANY player because he likes that player. Like it or not the NFL is a cut-throat what have you done for me lately business. Players know this going in. So do we. That's the deal. Period. I don't care what any player did for another team. I don't care what they did in their rookie seasons. I don't care what they did last season. I agree with PIoli, what happened yesterday, is yesterdays news. You show up every single day and re-prove your worth. If you don't then good bye. No hard feelings. It's a business.

I liked jrcnc's post recently. It got me fired up. We should all be getting fired up. Don't hang your heart out there and get all stuck on some silly loyalty to any one player. Replace that instead with the team loyalty concept. NO one player is that important. I don't care that they are pushing Jamaal to continue working at being great, by bringing in Jones. I applaud it. I hope they give Bowe and Cassel and Vrabel and T-Jack the same ultimatum. If we don't want the very best at each position, we will probably get our wish. Now, I'm not saying we WILL end up with the best player at every position, but why not WANT to? Never settle for OKAY again. We have settled long enough.

Look, if Peyton Manning is the greatest QB for the Colts, then good for him. If Brett Favre is great for the Vikings then so be it. That does not mean they would be the best for this TEAM. If Bowe didn't work out here, and went on to be the greatest thing to happen to another team; then yay! Good for them and good for us. If some 7th round DE comes in and wipes up opponents for us, then good for us. It doesn't mean he would do any good for another team. So I dont' care who stays or who goes or who gets drafted. I simply want whoever will be the best for the Kansas City Chiefs team.

I believe in Pioli. I know I get exasperated at times and say some knee jerk reaction things, but I believe we are heading in the right direction. Not just as a team that has to learn to quit "thinking" with a losing mentality, but as fans who have to do the same thing. We have to learn to expect great things before they will happen. To me, it's like learning Spanish. My teacher always said to really LEARN spanish, I had to quit translating English to Spanish and start THINKING in Spanish. We have to learn not to think like a losing organization anymore and start THINKING in a winning culture mindset. For me, I want the best player we can get at each position. The guy who wants to be here. Who wants to throw it all out there for us fans each and every game.

I want the best team in the NFL here in KC. Because only the best team wins the Superbowl. At a minimum I hope I never hear another Chiefs fan say they're okay with okay. Hey, we will always be biased and have wrong opinions because admittedly, we LOVE our Chiefs right? So don't be surprised that we all need a little fine tuning in our thinking from time to time. After all "love is blind". GOOOOO CHIEFS!!!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Very nice Kray

rec’d. I love the outlook this management is taking and am very happy for our future, im just not going to get to attached to one player, cause the second they are cutting it they are gone!

Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.

by jrcnc on Mar 23, 2010 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

This is just what I needed to hear

Thank You Kray. I totally agree with your point of view. I think Pioli is doing a great job and we should see some payout this season. GO CHIEFS!!!

Chiefs are on the up and up

by Chiefs1 on Mar 23, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

this needs to be a weekly occurance here on AP

someone, Kray, myself, anyone can post something motivational to get everyone fired up! I love this post its great, seriously ive read it 3 times already and will continue to read it over and over again!

Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.

by jrcnc on Mar 23, 2010 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

wow, kray ... is that you? really you? an intelligent, thoughtful, insightful post ...

{{grinning}}

and it;’s about your 7th one on the same subject, right? lovya, kray brother mine

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo!
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by upamtn on Mar 23, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

An intelligent, logical argument. From Kray??

Dude, when did you sober up? Or did the sunshine state finally run out of microwave burritos?

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

by chiefsandcigars on Mar 23, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

What?? No Hero's??

As a kid going up I always had hero’s in Football and baseball, knowing that the players way back when would probably play all their career with one team.
I miss that and your post reenforces that new modern position, that no one is more important than the team.
But where are the Hero’s? What do our kids and grandkids grow up with?

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Mar 23, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

That is such a great point. I guess I forgot how great it was as a kid to have heroes.

Jerry Rice, Joe Montana etc. I don’t know sgthall. Your comment makes me kind of sad. I hope we are not witnessing the end of an era. Remember Cookie Rojas? Mayberry? Brett? Of course you do. Me too. I get ya’ now. Good comment and I’ll rec it because I hope we haven’t lost the hero era. Maybe Larry Fitzgerald will be that guy for a lot of us one day.

by krayfish on Mar 23, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

We can always have heroes

Our parents, our teachers, our friends, people in our community and people that play sports.
They don’t have to play for our team to be special.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 23, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

before Madden football

all of us kids played outside till the sun came down, if it was baseball we would pretend we were Sandy Koufax or Don Drysdale or Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle, kids don’t do that now.
In Football it was Joe willie or Johnny Unitas or Gail Sayers or Jim Brown. they played all their games with one team and were honored for it. thats what I miss the homegrown talent that stayed and played with one team and became legends in their own time.

"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "

by sgthall on Mar 23, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

we wont miss out on that

it will have those leaders and heros because those people will be the ones that work hard enough to spend their careers as a Kansas Chief and If they earn that right. They will earn the right to be our hero.

by anewstart on Mar 24, 2010 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

George Brett

was my hero growing up. Got to meet him twice and had the honor of wearing his number throughout my baseball career. Okay, so it wasn’t a career, but I did sport the #5 and still do when I play softball…

Things to get the Chiefs back on the winning side of football:

1. Haley resign as offensive coordinator or do the following;
a. Feed JC more
b. Take the cuffs off of Cassel and let him air it out
2. Fire Clancy "Calls" Playslikeass

by kcchiefsfan72 on Mar 24, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never met him. But I did see him play in KC as a kid. And again as an adult

in Anaheim/Oakland when I was in the Coast Guard. He was a pinch hitter. He rocked. I remember a bunch of A’s fans yelling “Retire already, leave us alone”. I laughed so hard.

by krayfish on Mar 24, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Concerning Heroes....

I would say that if when we get that group of Team First players, the true Heroes will stand out above the rest. Not because they are better, but because they prove to be the natural born leaders of the team. To be a great leader, you first must be a servant. The guy on the team that is the best servant to the team is going to be the Hero of the team at some point.

Things of importance to me:
1)God
2)Family
3)Chiefs
4)Marine Corps

by RodeoChief on Mar 23, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm....

Things of importance to me:
1)me
2)chiefs
3)me

by Smarterthanchris on Mar 23, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are such a rec hound

Just… shameless.

Quit baggin on Cassel. Give him a second to throw please.

Wrecked. Just so you’ll get your quota.

We are building a fighting force of extwaordinary magnitude.

by Ozarks on Mar 23, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

p.s. This post wasn't about Cassel I promise. I just noticed a bunch of chatter about him and Bowe

and others and who will be here etc. I don’t want Cassel to fail I promise. Good point but please know that I only used him as an example.

by krayfish on Mar 23, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great post Kray. I agree 100%

I’m an old enough fart to remember the mid ’60’s to early ’70’s Chiefs. Those were great teams and we loved all those players and coaches and Lamar. The problem was the owner, coaches and fans fell in love with each other and we didn’t evolve by moving players for draft picks etc. We stagnated and it hurt us for many years.

We fans probably would have revolted at the time if we had traded away Willie Lanier or most any of those great players for future picks. After all, we were in love.

Rec’d even if the post is way to short. Ha.

by breeder on Mar 23, 2010 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Thinking about that Breeder...

what if we draft an LT in the first round… then move Albert to Left guard… and cut 2010 NFL Man of the year Brian Waters? People would revolt. But Pioli just said no one was safe.

no point here. Just to expect the unexpected.

We are building a fighting force of extwaordinary magnitude.

by Ozarks on Mar 23, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Nicely said, rec'd

We shouldn't be here. I can't be within 50 feet of a school......or a chucky cheese.

by BJ Kissel on Mar 23, 2010 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Rec'd.

Needed some pictures though.

I like this one:

GET WITH THE PROGRAM COMRADE.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.

by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 23, 2010 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

The Obama Care logo?

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Mar 24, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd Kray, nice read

The problem I have is how over the top some people go. I don’t have a problem with someone putting out a well thought argument on something. I have no problem with someone saying “I’m not sure Cassel is the long term answer at QB because….” and then backs it up with well thought out points. That’s different to me then “CASSEL SUCKS!” This place is so bi-polar sometimes. One minute its, “Pioli is the greatest thing in the universe” then he doesn’t draft who we think he should and its “He hasn’t proved he can do anything on his own yet”. One minute he’s bringing in FAs we like so all is good, but if we lose our first two games next year the “lynch mob” will be out again. That’s when I get mad and go after people who are being negative about our team. Not because I’m content with losing or don’t have high standards for our players, but because I’m realistic that we’re not going to suddenly have 11 pro bowlers on both sides of the ball and go 16-0 overnight. It will take time to build a champion from the ground up and I like what I see so far. You are 100% right about needing to develop a winning mindset. Just don’t mistake patience for a “losing mindset”.

Official Member of the "Draft Eric Berry" Fanclub
and the "Team O'Callaghan at RT" club

by KCporkchop on Mar 23, 2010 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed porkchop and I have been guilty of it myself consistently.

I am a fairly emotional guy. I am one of the ones that would cry like a girl if we even made it to a SB. Trust me. I get those 1 minute knee jerk reactions that I go balistic. I calm down just as quick. With me particularly, I don’t put a lot of stock into my rants. Those don’t portray my true overall feelings. I imagine others feel the same too.

We all need patience too. I hear the same things. Some are now predicting us into the playoffs already. I doubt it. I hope that doesn’t sound contradictory. It’s not to me. I think to build this thing the right way it is going to take a lot of time. Lots of time.

by krayfish on Mar 24, 2010 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good job Kray

I agree with most of what you say. My only proviso is that once that well above average organization is built, it might be ok to let one of Clarks kids be a ball boy or sumthin’. Nice post dude!

by Aiken_Drum on Mar 23, 2010 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Ya gotta love it!

   All the honesty is refreshing! If you want the best you have to push them to get it! I coach HS girls and the girls that perform the best always have to cry once at some point.

  Then it’s game on!

   THANKS Kray

Go Chiefs

" It's often better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission"

by DFisr722 on Mar 23, 2010 6:51 PM CDT reply actions  

your posts have been killer lately kray!

Sometimes one needs an outsiders perspective. I’ve been guilty of sticking up for players I love. I’ve sometimes been wrong. Not usually though haha. Great post and wrecked buddy.

Kansas City Chiefs - 2020 Team of the Decade

by skunk420 on Mar 23, 2010 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome to the most rec'd list Kray :)

Geaux Chiefs

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 23, 2010 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

wtf is 'mediocrisy'?

Besides this post.

Bazinga!!!

The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.

by ArrowSpread on Mar 23, 2010 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Good point Krayfish..

Pioli is the man! But just to clarify one of your statements of us not even being in a playoff game since the 2 expansion teams were added,we actually did make the playoffs in 07,Losing a close one to Indy after our offense ran out of gas.
I still remember Ty Law being the chief that got the closest to the endzone that game….sad.

by Smarterthanchris on Mar 23, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Okay

This has been going on for three or four of Kray’s most recent posts. Well thought out, paragraphs, spelling good
WHAT have you done with Kray? Upatmn did you have something to do with this? Nice post Kray! It is bitter sweet though. I remember watching the Chief’s growing disastrously old in the mid 70’s because Stram and Hunt couldn’t bear to trade or release their old hero’s.

The most important thing you can do in life is help other people.

by dklogue1 on Mar 24, 2010 1:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Krayfish: Keeping it Green!

By that I mean green with “Envy”. I would bet there are few who hang out here, who don’t wish they had written that post themselves. I know I wish I did. What an awesome post. It’s what I’ve been thinking but have been too lazy to articulate. You’re setting the bar pretty high there Krayfish. Keep it coming. I’ll be looking for your next masterpiece. Simply awesome.

by TheK-man on Mar 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't let it go to your head!

Because all you’re other posts suck.

Just kiddin man. Nice work.

by TheK-man on Mar 30, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOl...your awesome.. We hit it off from the first time I ever saw your name on here. It was your first post I think.

I was messin’ with ya’ to see if you could take it or if you were gonna be one of the touchy ones…lol…..

by krayfish on Mar 30, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very Insightful...

I will rec this beyotch mydamnself. It made me stop and think for a moment. Damn, is it August yet?

Things to get the Chiefs back on the winning side of football:

1. Haley resign as offensive coordinator or do the following;
a. Feed JC more
b. Take the cuffs off of Cassel and let him air it out
2. Fire Clancy "Calls" Playslikeass

by kcchiefsfan72 on Mar 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

I can't wait for the draft. Although I don't know these kids from their college play

I have learned a hell of a lot about them from AP. So now I kinda have my secret favorites I hope we draft.

by krayfish on Mar 24, 2010 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Wow Kray

This one is real impressive ! I like the way you cool down after warming up… in your other posts, here your absolutely right : "Look, Pioli’s not going to be loyal to Matt Cassel, Dwayne Bowe or anybody else for that matter. NO one is safe here anymore. As it should be (for once). There is no “immunity” here in KC for players any longer." Why? Because he wants team-first players and it looks like he wants even his coaches to work together as a team, you can’t underestimate the importance of fighting together versus fighting to be a probowler,for your number of sacks or catch or run yards. There is so much talent on so many teams that just playing good or doing your best is not enough. So with Pioli there is no time for BPA i think, he doesn’t want the BPA he wants the right 53, and i believe he can “reach” for anyone at #5 , and he is patient enough to wait for the right NT a year or two if he thinks he is not there this year or even next. Of course he will continue to upgrade each and every part of our team even those we think are “set” (QB,RB,DE,K,P). Once more thanks for your post, waiting for next brilliant :)… oh yes rec’d

by swichief on Mar 24, 2010 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

rec'd buddy

very nice, but…

You said that we havent been to the playoffs since the NFL has got 2 new expansion teams, that is just not true! WE HAVE GONE to the playoffs… we just cant find a damn way to win a game there!

by readANDgold58 on Mar 24, 2010 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Remember when people were freaking out over the pseudo-QB controversy in Training Camp? Its all a part of the Pioli system. Create competition, you create depth and light a fire under your players.

And with the news that Cincinnati QB Tony Pike visiting the Chiefs this week, it seems that Pioli is making sure that Cassel doesn’t feel comfortable in his starting role.

by kcdynasty on Mar 24, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

/Cough

Another trend I noticed, was the IMMEDIATE willingness to settle for mediocrisy.

Dayton Moore

/Cough

Rock Chalk Wildcats. (KSU, not UcK)

by labbadabba on Mar 25, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

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