Notre Dame WR Golden Tate Still 'Top Of The Second Round'
by Joel Thorman on Mar 2, 2010 6:00 PM CST
in 2010 Kansas City Chiefs Draft
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PrintDaniel Jeremiah of MoveTheSticks.com appeared on The Border Patrol on 810 WHB this morning and said coming into the NFL Combine, Notre Dame WR Golden Tate was a "top of the second round" prospect.
After the NFL Combine?
Not much has changed, according to Jeremiah, a former NFL scout.
He notes his 40 yard dash was higher than a lot of folks expected but he showed some trouble in pass-catching drills. Jeremiah noted one of his strongest suits is his ability to make people miss after the catch. He also said he wasn't a "polished" route-runner.
However, Jeremiah goes on to say that he would compare Tate's style to Hines Ward. If you know then what you know now, would you take Hines Ward? I think we all would.
But that's the tricky part of draft season. You never know how these guys will actually pan out.
Tate has already said it would be a "dream" to play for Charlie Weis, the former ND coach that made him the receiver he is today, he says. And Chiefs head coach Todd Haley has previously said finding people who can consistently catch the ball is a priority for the offense.
The Chiefs have already met with Tate (on Saturday) and if I had to put money on it, I'd say they will bring him in for a private workout before the draft.
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i would be fine with 2a
Because weiss knows him better than anyone, and if he feels like taking him there is good, then I’m on board.
by jakethesnake27 on Mar 2, 2010 6:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
kinda like
How al davis knows speed, so he should pick mays with his first.
by jakethesnake27 on Mar 2, 2010 6:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Mays, Campbell, or Willams
for Raiders in R1. I’d say Jacoby Ford has their 2nd rounder locked up
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
The only thing more lame than mock draft's is the sarcasm font.
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 2, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
Which Williams?
Demaryius? Damian? Dan?
Davis is gonna pick Mount Cody, just to piss off all you critics. And prove that he’s “still got it, baby!”
The path to Victory is made of losers.
no
Al only drafts qb’s that big and overweight.
by jakethesnake27 on Mar 2, 2010 6:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Try Trent.
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
The only thing more lame than mock draft's is the sarcasm font.
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 2, 2010 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
2a is fine with me
as long as they get NT and C at some point
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
I was thinking NT with 2a
and well…many different schools of thought on 1st round. That’s for a different thread.
yes
A fat kid for the middle should be top priority. I mean on defense of course, I don’t think ZB centers are fat, are they?
by jakethesnake27 on Mar 2, 2010 6:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
so williams at 5, Tate at 2a, Allen at 2b, and Walton at 3
1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.
by BJ Kissel on Mar 2, 2010 6:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
actually wiliams down at
7, 9, Or lower, because we trade down and get another pick or 3
by jakethesnake27 on Mar 2, 2010 6:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
if we could trade back that would be ideal
1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.
by BJ Kissel on Mar 2, 2010 6:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
it will happen.
It will go like this. There will be someone who wants somebody where we are. And they will call to and say hey I need your pick, so I can get this guy, and pioli will say fuck you, pay me. Mangina will call and say I need a qb, and we will say fuck you pay me. Singletary will call and we will say fuck you pay me. Then we will take both his firsts and maybe his fourth, and get the best fat kid to plug in the middle, and then some.
by jakethesnake27 on Mar 2, 2010 7:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
been a while since I heard any don pioli references, so I thought I would throw a goodfellas reference out there
by jakethesnake27 on Mar 2, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I much prefer GoodFellas to The Godfather.
The Godfather is way too elegant for me. I like how sleek and stylish and visceral GoodFellas is. It’s one of the most imminently watchable movies ever. If it’s on, I can’t help but watch it.
So, in your GoodFellas analogy, is Pioli the Paul Sorvino character? And who does that make Haley? Joe “Am I clown? Do I amuse you?” Pesci?
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
I could get behind that
Then Donald Butler in the fourth. The old D-O-D-O-D drafting style.
The path to Victory is made of losers.
i was thinking angerer
Schofield, rolle, and John connor in the 5th
1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.
by BJ Kissel on Mar 2, 2010 7:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i really like 'n domination suh'
1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.
by BJ Kissel on Mar 2, 2010 7:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like "dom-a-con" better
Sounds like a convention for…interesting people.
The path to Victory is made of losers.
In football gear, Benn & Bowe are like twins
I’d rather see a change-up, give the defenses something to adjust to. I wouldn’t hate Tate.
The path to Victory is made of losers.
um...I hope not
Surely almost anyone else out there can catch better than any one of our receivers
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
N. Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 2, 2010 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
I just meant physically
They’re both big, athletic, good jumpers, good YAC potential, not a lot of breakaway speed, not great at creating separation, just short of being considered “tall.” I mean, I wouldn’t turn down the best receiver available, but variety is valuable. It’s hard to create mis-matches or surprise the defense when all your weapons play the same way.
The path to Victory is made of losers.
Sure didn't see to have any problems with it
in actual football games.
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
by KCSatchmo on Mar 2, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
I think he did fine, considering he'd never worked with those QBs before
and he did have a few nice catches after the gauntlet drill
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.
Golden Tate
ive been looking really hard at Tate the last couple weeks, being that he is a very big possiblity as one of our picks, whether it be 2a or 2b. hes a very hard worker, who even cares about his combine results, thats just adds to him. he would be an awesome slot reciever, somewhere in the same category of fitzgerald. plus he wants to be a chief, he wants to play for Weis. it would be so easy for him to come in and make an immediate impact because of Charlie Weis. i think hes also a safe pick because of his work ethic. i also really really like mardy gilyard, thats the one i would love to see in chief red. and eric berry of course.
I'd take him 2b. Won't be to upset if we take him 2a.
Fitzgerald? Larry? What? Slot? Huh?
by The_Bernard_Pollard_Rule on Mar 2, 2010 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
Here is the problem
I wish we could get a WR w/ 2a, but I think we may need that pick for NT. I also can see us moving back into the first. We NEED NT and there may be no other way to get a year 1 starter.
I think round one is going to be where we get our NT from.
I like others, such as berry, but I think it is going to be NT. We build from the trenches out, and that is the most important position in the trenches right now.
by jakethesnake27 on Mar 2, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
When I say back into the first I mean a another 1st rounder besides 5.
I would be shocked if we took NT at 5. That would be just too big of a reach.
oh, i understand that
we’ll see I guess. 1 or 2 of those NT’s may climb the board and then it’s not such a reach, you know, like someone projected to go 12th getting taken third.
by jakethesnake27 on Mar 2, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Fits Right In
Trouble catching? Doesn’t run good routes? Perfect back-up for Bowe. D-Bowe and G-Tate. The Drop Brothers. Beautiful.
id love 2a
it would help cassel out tons. getting tate in the 2nd would be a steal
You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday
Cassel can lead us.
I was right there...
Until the “Hines Ward” comparison. I can’t stand Hines Ward. Although him doing the Tomahawk Chop after his TD against us this year, and then them losing the game…provided me with one of my favorite moments of the 2009 season. Gotta’ love the dude for that one.
Seriously though…I’d take Tate on our team. We’ll just have to see if it falls that way.
Im no fan of the person Hines Ward
but if Tate were a Chief and was laying out defenders with some nasty blocks, then id love it.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
please not at 2a
especially if Cody is there
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
I don't think he will be
Tons of teams need NT help, and most of the mocks I’ve seen have him going towards the end of the first round
bowe not considered tall?
these things i hear that dbowe is not tall and fast is a myth. he isnt really quick but he is a big reciever as well.at his pro day dbowe ran a 4.44 forty which i would call fast and he was officially recorded i believe at 6’2 1/2 and 223lbs. and when you factor in his huge wingspan and athletic ability he reminds me the most to and from other people i speak with is terrol owens.
i live close to miami
and i know alot of phins fans and the one player they usely bring up is dbowe when talking about the chiefs.well and matt cassel…
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