Eric Berry, Taylor Mays Showcase Speed At The NFL Combine
The Kansas City Chiefs have perceived needs at both safety positions. Unrestricted free agent Mike Brown is aging and didn't show much burst last season. Jon McGraw is probably better suited as a backup.
So it's no surprise that there have been plenty of reports linking the Chiefs to the top safeties in the 2010 NFL Draft. A few helped themselves and one potentially hurt himself in the 40 yard dash.
Tennessee's Eric Berry had the most to lose this morning. A slow 40 time could've put him below Florida's CB Joe Haden as the Combine's best defensive back but he did very well for himself at 4.46 and 4.40 unofficial times. That's faster than the times posted for Haden.
USC's Taylor Mays -- believed to be by many as the best athlete at the Combine -- blazed to a 4.24 unofficial time (Update: His official time is 4.43, which is a very large difference). That would be up there with Chris Johnson for the fastest in Combine history if it stands. There was some talk that Mays could be converted to linebacker but that speed will keep him in line to be a safety at the next level.
FSU's Myron Rolle, on the other hand, ran only a 4.69 and confirmed some scouts fears of his speed. Rolle, who had only one interception in college, may not be viewed as a playmaker. His stock could have fallen to the fourth round.
LSU's Chad Jones, who famously caught Darren McFadden from behind as a freshman, ran a 4.57. He'll likely go before the end of the second round.
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Dont forget
Boise State CB Kyle Wilson put up 25 reps…that’s more than Gerald McCoy and everyone’s man-crush Rolando McClain.
Kyle Wilson and Chad Jones with our 2nd round picks would be a dream for me.
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
I can dream
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
you're correct my friend
Kyle Wilson is a playmaker and will be taken before pick 24, imo. No reasoning for the 24, just a hunch.
The bench for a CB is like the 40 for a guard: not particularly relevant
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 2, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
actually...
bench does translate to upper body strength… and should help tremendously with jams at the line… as well as when receivers try and push off CBs… it is not totally irrelevant…
feb draft wish 1.3:
1. eric berry fs
2. sergio kindle olb
2. brandon spikes ilb
3. jd walton oc
4. torell troup nt
5. jacoby ford wr
5. joique bell rb
5. myron rolle ss
But they're not a particularly good indicator of jamming ability
Jamming, in my experience at least, is much more about tech than strength.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 2, 2010 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
And with the 8th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select...
Al: Did you see that guys 40 time? 4.24!
Scout: Yeah, Al, but…
Al: 4.24!
Scout: But he has some flaws that….
Al: Draft him or else
Scout: Yes, sir
So you're saying...
Jacoby Ford would be the perfect compliment to Darius Heyward-Bey? lol
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
Myron Rolle
I think isn’t going to be all that great of a player, and he wasn’t that great in college either (as the stats indicate). I don’t know that he’ll be as high as a 4th round pick to be honest.
So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.
You beat me to it
I think he’ll be there in the 5th or 6th.
I feel bad for Mays.
He’s gonna get drafted by the raiders.
by Bims on Mar 2, 2010 11:32 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Having a brain cramp...
What’s the downside to Taylor Mays?
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 2, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Not much of a play maker.
Tends to go for a big hit opposed to making a play on the ball. Takes questionable angles at times. Overall the guy isn’t the greatest football player as a whole, but makes up for it with his natural athleticism.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 2, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
That's one reason why I like the Berry flavor
He’s versatile and has already set an NCAA record and would have another this coming year if he’d stayed at TN. The kid is a player.
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 2, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Man
if he could be coached up to improve his fundamentals at the next level, he would be an absolute beast. I’ll pray for him that Oakland doesn’t draft him.
by Hail2DaChiefs on Mar 2, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
it would virtually guarantee that he would turn out to be a nothing in this league
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 2, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Mays
takes horrible angles to the ball while it’s in the air and he goes for the big hit rather than wrap up…basically Bernard Pollard version 2.0
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
Meh.
I wouldn’t mind having him, but not in the first round. He’d be a steal with our 2a pick. Not that it matters, mind you. This guy will probably go as one of the top 3 DBs after todays workouts.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 2, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
I would love me some T.Mays
He put’s the fear of god in any WR on his side of the field. He hits people so hard he screws them in the ground. I think he would be a great player with some good coaching, and if i’m not mistaken, our coaching staff is pretty good. I don’t like drafting a guy like Berry at #5 and then worrying about him getting hurt on a punt return or something. What do we do if he gets hurt? I don’t want him for that reason alone, if he was to get hurt then we have 2 holes to fill.
He already had good, no, GREAT coaching
Pete Carroll and Co. provided him with some of the best defensive back coaching college football has to offer. This isn’t a guy like Dunta Robinson or Leodis McKelvin, who just needed some better coaching and corrective training. This is a kid who has not responded positively to extremely reputable defensive coaches in the four years he has spent at USC. One could even say that the kid regressed from his sophomore to junior seasons.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 2, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
Yes it's easy to see that this kid has no talent
With all the good plays he has had and the video to prove it. I just like the way this kids bring’s it, and i don’t care if he get’s beat some. With a good NT, and LB’s core he would be fine. The same thing could be said about Pollard, i thought he was fine at FS we just need to have better players in the front 7. I would be fine with Berry, and i’m not saying he’s not the best FS in the draft, i’m just saying we should get NT, OL, ILB, or OLB, with our first pick.
I think he'd be pretty far from fine
Strongly disagree with you on this one. I was a huge supporter of Mays his freshman and even most of his sophomore season. But then it became apparent that he wasn’t responding to coaching, and like Lavar Arrington, he thinks he can get by playing selfishly and without any discipline. That’s about the worst quality a safety could have.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 2, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
They were just fine with the way he played, and in fact wanted him to play aggressive.
I'm pretty sure that's not true
Considering Pete Carroll was regularly sighted chewing him out, and actually put him on the bench after he blew his second big play against Washington this year.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 2, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
I think Mays is going to be good in the NFL.
Maybe not on our team, but he will be good. When i watch video of Mays a lot of his hit’s are down field on WR’s and usually he breaks up the play. He might get beat some but he makes up for it, with bone crushing hit’s. When i watch video of Berry i see a guy who IMO doesn’t tackle as well and most of his INT’s come on terrible throw’s not great coverage. Yes he sure can be flashy with the ball after he picks it off, i will admit.
Maybe i shouldn't say tackle as well
Because Mays just hit’s them and they go don’t Berry has to wrap up and hold on until help gets there.
After watching more video
I must retract my statement above. I am now pulling my foot out of my mouth, and saying that Berry does tackle well and doesn’t need help. I will now go hide in the corner.
Berry does indeed tackle pretty well
The thing with Mays is that he goes for that big hit, but doesn’t seem to know how to form-tackle, when form-tackling is far more important than the big hit. Actually, other than possibly with sack specialists, I will go far as to say that big-hitting is perhaps the most exaggerated of all defensive player traits. It doesn’t accomplish nearly as much on the field as it entertains the audience.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 3, 2010 6:57 AM CST up reply actions
Joel, great post and thank you ...
… this confirms what we’ve ALL known all along: there ARE others who can play safety besides Eric “Drink The Koolaid” Berry
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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Sorry ups,
but this doesn’t prove that they can play safety as good as Berry. It just shows that they can run about as fast as him.
Berry is the best safety in the draft. The guy is a proven, consistent play maker.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 2, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
The future is ours KC Chiefs fans!!!!!
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 2, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Totally agree Red N Gold!
So you think you are so important that no one can replace you? Put your finger in a bucket of water and pull it out. Does it leave a hole? Nope, just some ripples that eventually calm themselves!
by Fan of the Red And Gold on Mar 2, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
vernon Gholston effect???
freak numbers at the combine, but little production to follow in the league.
by chief in colorado on Mar 2, 2010 11:34 AM CST reply actions
Vernon who???
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 2, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Poor, Poor Mays.
He just ran his way onto Al Davis’ payroll.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 2, 2010 11:42 AM CST reply actions
yes he is...
Berry is exp at every DB position and returns P/K as well…but prefers punts.
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 2, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Berry plays both
and some scouts believe he can play corner too.
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
I think he played SS in college
But to me he seems more of a FS, given his size and tools.
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by Scaryclouds on Mar 2, 2010 11:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Mays is having a really, really good combine.
I just watched his back peddle/hip flip workout and the guy transitioned really smooth.
It’s guys like this that can skew the draft. Not really phenomenal college careers, but look like absolute beasts at the combine. Aaron Curry anyone?
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 2, 2010 11:55 AM CST reply actions
Honest question...
do you think Seattle (if Berry is off the board) thinks about drafting Mays 6th overall to pair him with Pete Carroll again? Or heck, even if Berry is still on the board. If the Seahawks really like him, they have to worry about him lasting until they pick again (14 I think) since Oakland is 8th.
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
Seattle is 6th, then 14th.
And I have no idea. There’s a good chance that Mays will still be there at 14 though. Mays’ 40 time got knocked down to 4.43. I’m sure one of the RBs or WRs had a better 40 time.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 2, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah,
WR Jacoby Ford ran an official 4.28.
Mays is probably safe from Davis’ all seeing gaze.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 2, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly I would be surprised if Mays went in the first
Seattle/Oakland in the second is where I have him falling
by BAMFSpecialOps on Mar 2, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
This just in:
Official 40 times for DBs:
Taylor Mays: 4.43
Brandon Ghee: 4.45
Chris Cook: 4.46
Eric Berry: 4.47
David Pender: 4.47
Akwasi something-or-other: 4.47
Kevin Thomas: 4.48
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 2, 2010 12:02 PM CST reply actions
Yeah.... I was trying to hurry and his name is all fucked up.
It’s Akwasi Owusu-Ansah. That’s one really fucked up name.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 2, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Earl Thomas 4.47 "officially"
While I’d love for him to fall to KC in the 2nd, I think his height/weight measurements today put him out of reach, and the 40 helps solidify. So Berry is 5’11" 211lbs. 4.47 and 19 reps (not that bench press should matter much for DBs), while Thomas is 5’10" 208lbs. 4.47 and 21 reps.
Those are your top two safeties, folks. I can’t wait to see how they do in the cone drill, shuttles, etc., if they actually decide to do all those in Indy. Otherwise we have to wait until their pro days.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 2, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
He's a stud though
from Pittsburgh of Indiana or something weird like that.
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
Here's a cool Q & A with him
http://profootball.scout.com/2/901757.html
The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones
projected 4th round on NFL Draft scout
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=86130&draftyear=2010&genpos=CB
Low tackle total – but looks like a playmaker-
did he just get a touchdown scored on him in that pic?
the other guy has the ball and that looks like a jump of shame, not joy???
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
Not that I want him
but 4.43 is still a ridiculous time for a guy Mays’ size.

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