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What do the Chiefs Linebackers lack?

                                                                          

 I found an excellent write up on Mike Nolans 3-4 Defense and what we might need as opposed to what we want.

From www.phinzmania.com

link to the post

1. 3-4 WOLB – This job requires you to rush the passer about 70 percent of downs.
2. 3-4 WILB – A banger that can plug the run and rush the passer from ILB 1 out of 3 downs.
3. 3-4 SILB – A smart, athletic player that can rush 1 out of 4 downs from ILB and collect tackles.
4. 3-4 SOLB – Needs to be good in coverage and on the TE, only rushes 50 percent.
5. 2-4 WOLB – Optional to be a hand-on-ground guy, is the primary pressure guy on pass downs.
6. 2-4 WILB – Must be very smart, and good in coverage, backing up and keeping things in front.
7. 2-4 SILB – Must be athletic enough to run with players in coverage.
8. 2-4 SOLB – Must be a dynamic pass rusher and be able to do damage from an up position.

Chiefs Linebacking Corps

David Herron  ILB 6-1 239 25 3  Michigan State
Jovan Belcher  ILB 6-2 228 22 2  Maine
Corey Mays  ILB 6-1 245 26 5  Notre Dame
Demorrio Williams  ILB 6-1 232 29 7  Nebraska
Derrick Johnson  ILB 6-3 242 27 6  Texas 
Tamba Hali  OLB 6-3 275 26 5  Penn State
Andy Studebaker  OLB 6-3 248 24 3  Wheaton
Mike Vrabel  OLB 6-4 261 34 14  Ohio State
Pierre Walters  OLB 6-5 269 23 2  Eastern Illinois

Now who fits where?

Star-divide

  I think that we are in good shape for the 3-4 WOLB and 2-4 WOLB with Hali. The Man has grown into the spot and my favorite picture that I can't find is a picture of Tamba on the Bench, Bearded, catching his breath to come back in and get that ever elusive Sack. Strip ala Derrick Thomas.

 

   I guess we can argue about both the 3-4 WILB and SILB positions. My opinion is that neither starter fits that description. Both seem to play behind the Line of Scrimmage and do not consistently produce the desired results. The opposing offense opens a hole in the front three and the ILB's cannot seal it back up. That is not a safeties job but the ILB's, front line, main responsibility, numero uno.

  Numbers 6, and 7. Derrick Johnson seems to be able to do. whether SILB or WILB he can cover.  Now the taking care of his assignment is a major issue but he can cover RB's and TE's if needed.

  Let's talk about #8. Studebaker could be a great 2-4  ILB for the 6 or 7 spot. But as an everydown 3-4 SOLB can he can he be stout enough to stop the Rush and also a difference maker on the more than occasional QB rush.

Seems to me we have a couple of different needs at the Line Backer spot and a Couple of deficiencies.  The Chiefs need some depth at Linebacker due to Special team duties. I think Hoffman would be pissed if we lost some of those guys to upgrading the LB corp, but it is what it is. The Linebacker spot seems to be moving to a commitee type spot but it would definitely help the Chiefs to have more than one player be able to stay on the field everydown.

 

Geaux Chiefs

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Belcher...

looked like he could have potential as a 2-4 SILB. I just hope we find some sacks from guys other than Hali. I think our defense dramatically improves its run defense (how could it get any worse) this season, but I still don’t know how we are going to implement a fierce pass rush. Even if we get a highly touted rookie, he will still have growing pains most likely. Good good write up and rec’d!

1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and keep Dorsey

by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 19, 2010 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks

I think Pioli will find a couple of guys. I would hope we know their names by now.
I was saying on another post 6 Defensive lineman and 8 Linebackers is a quarter of a NFL roster. Pioli has said he desires guys that can play multiple needs. A run stuffer and pass defender would free up a Chiefs roster spot. Two of them would free up a spot for a another dominate Jack/predator Back like Hali.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 19, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good post Steve

I still think we have work to do with our LB core, but with Crennel here who knows for sure what we have. Patiently waiting until pre-season for Weis and Crennel to work their magic.

by CPT.Caveman on Mar 20, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

We need help

We have a couple decent starters, good depth…just need more.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Mar 19, 2010 7:58 PM CDT reply actions  

To answer your question...

its quite simple. We need a leader.

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Mar 19, 2010 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you volunteering?

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by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 19, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I wasnt broke down and old, I wouldnt hesitate :)

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Mar 19, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know you would I would too

The Guard would just smother me in the 2nd block on his way to the Safety :(

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 19, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

An everydown ILB would simplify things

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by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 19, 2010 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I am not suggesting possibilities just an everydown player would simplify things

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 19, 2010 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

say what you want, but what bothers me is

our LBs cant cover in the slightest. Derrick Jonhson is by far and away the best coverage LB we have and we won’t play him. He is the ONLY one who can even half ass get that job done. The ones with the attribute sets for being good in coverage (mays and williams) are actually the worst. The whole point of running a 3-4 is that you have more versatility, both more rush and coverage potential each play, by having another LB in. The lack of coverage ability in our LB corps completely mutes that intended advantage.

by SillyHatDay on Mar 19, 2010 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree

I think the lack of coverage LB’s
I think the lack of Rush LB’s
I think the lack of Run Stuffing LB’s

Our Linebackers ultimitely are stopgaps right now, space fillers, roster fillers. Someone has to do the function but very few of them are doing it to the degree an NFL linebacker should and continue to start. I love Tamba, he is the only one in the starters really to build around.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 19, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since when isn't LB-vs-TE or LB-vs-RB in pass coverage not a mismatch?

LB can (and should) get a good jam at the line, but if you’re bemoaning the fact that your LBs can’t cover, I think you’re missing the point of what a LB is FOR, and generally what they’re capable of doing. I think the old-school definition of a LB being able to cover a lumbering TE doesn’t fit what most of today’s TEs are capable of doing, and a LB who can cover such a player 1-on-1 isn’t really a LB. And since the 70’s, there’s been a large admixture of RBs in the league who can flat out-run every LB in the league.

I think the last two items on your list are what you want your 3-4 OLBs to do in today’s league, Steve, and if you intend to release TEs free at the line and cover them down the field, then you want 6’3’’ safeties, and you’re not really looking for LBs at all. This disconnect in thinking, it seems to me, is why guys like Gunther Cunningham kept trying to find more guys like Donnie Edwards, and by the time they were quick enough at LB, they weren’t stout enough up front.

I think coverage skills are a distraction when we talk about OLBs in KC’s 3-4. What KC needs, but doesn’t yet have, are two guys who regularly meet at the QB from opposite sides of the line, sewing up the pocket, play after play, like Neil Smith and Derrick Thomas, or William Wallace and Robert-the-Bruce. Hali’s half of the pair. I think someone a bit bigger, stronger, and dictatorial than the current Vrabel-Studebaker duo would be helpful.

I think Studebaker is currently a bit more explosive in clear passing situations than Vrabel. And I think both of ‘em are mostly really good at honoring their assignments MENTALLY. But I think they both get stood up and frozen in place or pushed off their spots, at times. Against pass OR run, I just think the OLB should be contesting ground a lot deeper into the O-backfield than we typically see from both these LBs. Their smarts make them hard to uproot from that position, because they DO stay under control and mindful of their gaps. Thing is, SOMEbody needs to be a constant threat to defeat single blocks and be able to finish when it becomes a free-for-all. Dorsey, Jackson and Edwards could all THREE get free into the backfield and STILL be eluded by a decent QB. Hali was supposed to be the finisher, but it seemed like every time the moment was HIS last year, those big white gloves would spread in a pre-victory celebration, and he wouldn’t finish the tackle. Don’t wave to me in case I’m not paying attention, Tamba. Use those white gloves to wrap up and make the sure tackle. You’re almost as big as Jamarcus Russell, for Pete’s sake!

by hmills110 on Mar 20, 2010 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Spoon?
someone a bit bigger, stronger, and dictatorial than the current Vrabel-Studebaker duo would be helpful

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by upamtn on Mar 20, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Spoon is 4-3 LB. And the kind of guy I'm talking about isn't in the 230's or low 240's.

I’m talking about guys in the 250’s and 260’s range.

A guy who’s only dropping back into zone on the changeup after a “vanilla” 5-man rush has the offense pushing the panic button.

by hmills110 on Mar 20, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tweeners?

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spoon is an ILB prospect

2-6 or 3-7 or a switchup 2-7 type I like it :)
Form the menu above of needs

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

yay

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hi, Mo!
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by upamtn on Mar 20, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would you package a trade to get him if we went a CB type early

I see two ILBers needed

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pick 30 with Minnesota probably Cost is 90 in value to move up

give up our 4th rndr and pick up Minnesota late 5th

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus 2a sorry

so 2a and 4th for

  1. 30 and a late 5th

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steve, I'd go after Spoon in a heartbeat if I was Pioli and could ... thing is, he WILL go in 1st Round

so how one could swing a trade to get him AND a S or CB both in 1st is beyond me … trade down scenario, grab Spoon and S or CB in late 1st or with 2A … Walton with 2B … I’d be delighted

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by upamtn on Mar 20, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Spoon is in that gray area in the draft between picks

I think in most rounds you can adjust for it but the 1st it is a killer.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 21, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Spoon?

I think upamtn is Spoon’s biggest supporter on here but not the only one. I didn’t watch this guy play so have nothing to offer as opinion. However, I’m curious what the interest in this guy would be currently had he played somewhere more obscure like Oregon, Brigham Young, Fresno State, Virginia – anywhere but Mizzou and out of the area. Would there still be this much interest? Or are you guys having homerism syndrome?

New body. Same soul.

by kabrink on Mar 21, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spoon is in the gray range

too low to pick @5 and too high to reach up for from 36

Spikes
Sean Lee
would be potential picks for ILB
Hughes for OLB but probably to spell Hali
The Tweeners would be the places to look for Vrabels replacement

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 21, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we have the talent just need some Crennel Discipline

I disagree, we have the depth just not the talent in the starting lineup.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 19, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Consistency.

Hi. My big board for KC's first rounder is:
1. Russell Okung, OT
2. Eric Berry, S
3. Rolondo McClain, ILB
4. Brian Bulaga, OT
5. Dan Williams, NT
Bye.

by Regime on Mar 19, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I see

the question I was wondering on the one word comments.
Help and Leadership, Discipline, and Consistency.

My feelings on the O-line are much better now :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 19, 2010 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Im trying to think of some rush LB’s we may be targeting in the draft. I like Ricky Sapp, from Clemson, and Jerry Hughes, from TCU as 3-4 OLB prospects. I haven’t heard much on either of them though as being targeted by us, so I don’t think it will happen.

Hi. My big board for KC's first rounder is:
1. Russell Okung, OT
2. Eric Berry, S
3. Rolondo McClain, ILB
4. Brian Bulaga, OT
5. Dan Williams, NT
Bye.

by Regime on Mar 19, 2010 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

If they're not 1-trick ponies, I like those kinds of picks. I also want that rush OLB to play the run instinctively.

That’s why I would be more inclined to go higher for Brandon Graham than others would be. Having a disruptive force of nature there on the strong side would be pretty huge for this defense. With the LOLB-ROLB pincer movement as your base threat, you mainly just have to play smart and disciplined in between, with your front 3.

That was something that had me scratchin’ my head last year, too. Might just be that I refuse to understand, but, if anything, I’d’ve wanted McBride to see action a little more often on the STRONG side, with both McBride and Hali on the field at the same time. But seemed like they were much more likely to shade Dorsey inside, because of his nature and because of the nature of what was(n’t) happening on Dorsey’s immediate left. My instructions to McBride would’ve been to deliver a devastating blow to the TE, and attack upfield.

by hmills110 on Mar 20, 2010 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

Now if we could get a Shutdown Cornerback at #5……

Would definitely cause the QB to hold for another tick or two

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gary Gibbs

Will turn this lb group around.

Book it.

 DO IT NAOW!!

by LHO on Mar 19, 2010 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I didnt have time to elaborate earlier.

I believe that there are two major fundamentals that can make any LB above avg at the very least. 1. A sure tackler. Our Lb’s, especially DJ, miss too many tackles. 2. Staying in your gaps. I dont know how many times I saw our Lb’s waayyyy out of position. If you do what you are where you are supposed to be every play, and you are a sure tackler, then you can be a great LB. Those 2 things are primarily what I mean when I say discipline. If we fix those two things with the same players we have right now, there is no telling how good our defense could be. As far as QB pressures and sacks go?…………yea, We need some help.

by Enite on Mar 20, 2010 2:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah many times did our "D" get beat on 3rd downs.

I don’t know how many times our LB’s got beat on 3rd down’s last year, but more than anything it comes from the lack of pressure on the QB. Get a good NT that can push the pocket, and take up 2 blockers doing it, that give’s Jackson and Dorsey more one on one’s, and get other Pass rushing guy to help Hali out on the other side. In terms of need IMO it’s NT pass rushing OLB and then Safety. We don’t have to draft Berry if we can get to the QB and make him get rid of it. Presser on the QB is one key to having a good “D”, it makes your secondary and safeties look better, if they only have to cover for 3 second not 7 or 8.

by CPT.Caveman on Mar 20, 2010 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

So

That should be on Gibbs. Either he should of had the players in the proper spots or he should have been in Clancy’s ear explaining loudly that the plan was wrong. Clancy is gone and Gibbs is still here so maybe that will be resolved. We still have few options when Vrabel retires and DJ becomes that UFA that he would have been this year. I guess he is going to sign the Tender rather than a new longer term contract soon.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andy Studebaker!

ill never forget that name hopefully he can develop into one of the many pieces that is our defense puzzle right now. . . . I say we pick up a big, physical, quick, aggressive guy later in the draft and make him our run stopper, i think that alone would really give us the boost we need on D.

by Kansascitian on Mar 20, 2010 3:36 AM CDT reply actions  

of the buffalo bills...

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* KC will NOT draft a LT in the first round, and the draft WILL be heavy on defense

by stagdsp on Mar 20, 2010 9:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought I saw his name in the read as a one dimensional player

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes from the read

and now Wesley Woodyard coming onto the field in place of Andra Davis, who was clearly just a 3-4 inside linebacker specialist.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice post Steve and rec'd

lots of useful info in there. I think our LB’s lack consistancy overall. Hopefully Crennel and Gibbs can turn this bunch around.

Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.

by jrcnc on Mar 20, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

From Chris' Draft interest table

some food for thought on targets

Brandon Graham 6’1 268 Tweener Michigan
Thaddeus Gibson 6’2 243 Rush OLB Ohio State
Rolando McClain 6’3 249 ILB Alabama
Sean Weatherspoon 6’1 239 ILB Missouri
Donald Butler 6’1 235 ILB Washington
Lee Campbell 6’2 248 ILB Minnesota
Hall Davis 6’4 271 Tweener Louisiana-Lafayette
Jermaine Cunningham 6’3 266 Tweener Florida
George Selvie 6’3 252 Rush OLB South Florida

  I am assuming that the Tweeners would be the SOLB (Vrabel) and the WOLB (Hali)
would be the Rush OLB. A hell of a lot of interest in the entire LB’ing corp :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

that's exactly right, Steve
Tweeners would be the SOLB (Vrabel) and the WOLB (Hali)
would be the Rush OLB.

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* KC will NOT draft a LT in the first round, and the draft WILL be heavy on defense

by stagdsp on Mar 20, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the front line was missing a guy who got upfield better from SOLB, also.

You need to sew up the pocket, and KC wasn’t doing that from the strong side.

by hmills110 on Mar 20, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Stag and Mills :)

I hope we get a Tweener early or late. maybe more than one and let Studebaker play inside Linebacker

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 21, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice post Steve. The Chiefs need a smart young leader that tackles well and can rush the passer from an ILB spot. Now if there was only someone in the draft class that fills the bill……………………

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Mar 20, 2010 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I know

Bulaga would be such a fine fit :)
The drafttek mock is all messed up right now.
I did one today for you to evaluate?
offense 99966455959
defense 92999333669 multiple M3 need on ILB
grab on McClain in 1st
grab on Cody in 2nd

1 5 Kansas City Rolando McClain ILB Alabama P3Grab -7 Reach
2 36 Kansas City Terrence Cody DT34 Alabama P2Grab -13 Reach
2 50 Kansas City Chad Jones SS LSU P3 -7 Reach
3 68 Kansas City Jermaine Cunningham OLB34 Florida P3 -10 Reach
4 99 Kansas City Jason Fox OT Miami P3 -13 Reach
5 132 Kansas City Pat Angerer ILB Iowa P3 -15 Reach
5 138 Kansas City Ciron Black OG LSU P3 -20 Reach
5 140 Kansas City Jordan Shipley WRS Texas P4 +29 Value

I like it much better:)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steve:

I would be fine with McClain, Cody then Chad Jones. That would go a long ways to fixing the D. Beyond that, I like Angerer and Shipley. Shipley in round five is a steal. I think the biggest difference between us now is the o-line evaluation. I would still like a o-lineman drafted in the first three rounds.

With the DraftTek sim, Bulaga, Washington, Chad Jones and Cam Thomas works well too. We would have a better o-line and a much improved middle of the D,.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Mar 20, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bulaga would be the Right tackle

Washington is too small at ILB
Jones is good size to stick his nose in at SS
Thomas is not Cody and probably will not pan out as a NT.
as far as O-line I can see some upgrades made in the backups.
Pouncey would be a starter not really anyone beyond him IMO.
maybe one of the OT’s could push O’Callaghan but we don’t need to do that a # 5
I like the thought of O’Dowd in the 1st next year. We can seal a lot of positions up in this draft without wasting them on positional reaches like TE. Just me :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I would start Bulaga at LT, move Albert to LG and Waters to Center. Thomas/Cody is debatable who will turn out to be the better pro. Washington would replace Demorrio, not Mays. One of the problems is that we can’t distinguish between the two ILB positions or the two OT positions, for example. I would prefer to replace Mays first rather than Demorrio or DJ.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Mar 20, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would prefer to replace both

McClain then Sean Lee in the 2nd or 3rd.
DJ can move on or step up.
DW and Mayes would be backups.
I have little feelings for the Offense apparently :)
SS would be available throught this draft.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am so close to putting a second ILB need in, but I have a hard time doing that with Demorrio, DJ and Belcher on the roster. If we trade DJ, I would then put in a second ILB need.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Mar 20, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

DJ is a rent a player until we sign him to a second contract

with the money involved we won’t do that. So it is either a trade or he walks next year. I don’t know Demorrio’s contract staus but it has to be up for renewel soon. Mayes and Belcher are year to year.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus where will Pioli get that extra 2nd next year.

I can see Croyle or DJ

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do think they are the two most likely Chiefs to get traded.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Mar 20, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope all is well with you.

Tough week and AP is very good for distracting the mind.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

My mock Merlin so you know where I sit now

Steve’s Mock

Brandon Graham 6’1 268 OLB Michigan
Terrence Cody 6’4 354 NT Alabama
Sean Lee 6’2 236 ILB Penn State
Morgan Burnett 6’2 209 SS Georgia Tech
Mardy Gilyard 6’ 187 WRS Cincinnati
Clay Harbor 6’3 252 FB Missouri State
Kevin Basped 6’6 248 OLB Nevada
Jevan Snead 6’3 218 QB Mississippi

  Mike Vrabel has signed on for one more year. Time to find that run-stuffing sometimes QB sacking replacement with another Brandon. Brandon Spikes was destined for 2a BUT those silly Jets grab him 1st. So we get the best true 3-4 Nose tackle in this draft. ILB is a concern though so we get the 3rd best in Sean Lee who likes to stick his nose into the LOS and is a superb tackler. Now for some safety help in Morgan Burnett who has also played some Nickel CB if needed. Some love in the slot for Marshawn "Mardy" Gilyard to push all the other WR’s in contention to catch the damn ball. Maybe Clay Harbor will be the next Tony Richardson, lets find out. Couple of developement types in Kevin Basped to spell Tamba Hali and maybe that QB to push Cassel with Weis doing his thing.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

The Chiefs really like Studebaker to take over from Vrabel. So, I think they will go elsewhere with their first pick. I am not sure if Gilyard will be there in round four. If he is, he is someone to think about.,

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Mar 20, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did Model it at Drafftek

worked then :)

I look forward to the coming weeks. So many opinions on the players. Chris has done a spreadsheet on Chiefs interests. Graham was on the Radar.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Studebaker could move to inside LBer and would fit very well :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

If they think Stude can move inside, then Graham becomes more viable.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Mar 20, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Stude had to play outside due to the roster as it were

Studebaker would be a better Mayes at 6’3 and 248
But without alternatives to backup Vrabel…

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess they could have played Stude at ILB and slid him

Comes back to Pendergast and his Defense.

Ahhhhh, The Answer kicks me in the head :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 20, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope so

but it seemed like i only saw him in the Steelers game. anyway hope he gets more play time next year.

by Kansascitian on Mar 20, 2010 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

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