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First. I already know I'm going to get completely blasted for this post. Not by Joel or Chris. Not for any violation of AP ethics. But just because I'm probably the only idiot that would dare to come up with a plan like this and actually say it out loud. It's probably the single stupidest idea ever presented on AP. So give me your best shot. It doesn't matter. I've acknowledged it. 

I saw Jrcnc's fan shot about 5 humbled players. I tapped the link and read the article. Then a light went off. Or maybe not. But this thought hit me so here it is.

Since none of us KNOWS for sure what the immediate or long term plan Pioli has in mind for the Chiefs is, I decided not to try to figure it out. Instead I came up with a way that we could all enjoy the ride immensely no matter what. No matter if Pioli has a 2 or a 3 or a 1 or a 5 year plan.

The thing is. I'm dead serious about this. Sorry if its stupid.

Star-divide

The fact is that we are rebuilding. How long it will take remains to be seen. No one can say for sure. Some say sooner, some say later. I say who cares. We fans can win no matter which path they follow. Check this idea out.

If I understand the free agency thing, then those 5 free agents mentioned in the article that Jrcnc's fanshot links to, Terrell Owens, Joey Porter, Brian Westbrook, Kevin Mawae, Darren Sharper are completely unattached. Completely. Now here's the thing. Lets assume that we are a few years out from being a serious contender. Well, you can either suck along the way as you slowly improve and inch your way to the top over a number of years, or you can be really good and really fun and entertaining while your getting there.

Well lets not forget that this is a sport. It's entertainment. We pay to be entertained.  We love the drama. We love the whole thing. The whole show. So then, if your rebuilding for a few years, what if you don't have to suck in the meantime? What if you could sell tickets like crazy? What if you could draw  a fan base from all over the NFL to watch your team when they weren't watching theirs? That would be fun while you were waiting for Pioli and company to finish building our dynasty wouldn't it? It would beat watching the Chiefs go 4-12 while we're rebuilding anyway.

So back to the 5 free agents thingy. If their truly free agents, then they don't cost a single draft pick right? No strings attached. It's straight up about money at this point right? You don't have to cut any deals with any other teams to get them. Their completely free from any contractual obligations to any team. So all you have to do to get one of them is make an offer to the player right?

Okay, so go to Darren Sharper and offer him anything. I don't care if its $5.00. Offer him that. Give him $5.00. All he can say is no. So what? So then offer him $10. Keep going until you get a deal done for dirt cheap. That's what the article says is happening with these guys right? Their unemployed and no one else wants them yet. So how about this? If their all going to be draft free acquisitions and their all supposedly so cheap; and we're so so so under the NFL average budget for spent money, then why not get them all?

Sell some tickets and give us a show maybe?! We wouldn't have to sacrifice anything. Nothing. We are drafting a buch of rookies out of college this offseason that deserve time to learn their positions anyway. So who better than these 5 veterans to help teach our young guys? Especially at this point in their careers? Their loaded with talent and knowledge and their humbled now. They aren't the arrogant "gimme gimme it's all about me", selfish players they once were.

Imagine those 5 coming here for next to no money at all. NO investment. No big spending. Joel posted that article about how even if 2010 ended up being a capped season, the Chiefs would still be way below budget. So we have a little pocket change. We don't even have to change the plan Pioli has initiated one bit. You draft who you were going to anyway. You train them the way you were going to anyway. You don't deviate one bit from the plan. You just buy these sideshow acts for next to nothing and use them as you see fit.

What are they gonna say? No? No other team wants them. SO lets go buy em' a happy meal and sign them. We would sell a billion tickets with those singings. Especially if we did it all in one week. We would own the NFL network for a month. We would be huge. And those guys would help us in the intermediate. It would not be a way to fix the team. Their old in NFL years. Its a way to have fun and still be a good team while your getting it together. It would be FUN. It would be a blast. We would be a better team, and best of all, our young trainees would get to watch and learn from the best of the best.

I know thats probably stupid, but we have the money and we wouldn't have to give up one single draft pick. What do you have to lose really? Tell me you wouldn't tune in just for that alone? I know I snuck a peek at Buffalo a couple of times to see if T.O. was doing anything!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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You happy now Kray?

I put my pic in there just for your crazy ass

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by Buck'O on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I like it

Me and pups are like …
Be back with that one :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol yeah, That was going nowhere good. Hahaha

That’s my dog Bean :)

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by Buck'O on Mar 17, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol Jack russell maybe

I have a Jack russell his name is Milo :P

by CPT.Caveman on Mar 17, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hehe! Yeah!

No kidding. They’re friggin’ nuts. Little spark plugs.

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by Buck'O on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had to search my 227 post ahem :)

Were you here then?
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/5/16/877546/a-fanpost-but-not-a-football-post

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by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cavey The Jack Russell is name Milo

Wierd as shit

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 17, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Yeah that is weird, my dad said no wonder he’s mean since i named him Milo.

by CPT.Caveman on Mar 18, 2010 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

awwwwwwwwww Steve ... them's is CUTE

so … ummm … what happened to YOU?

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by upamtn on Mar 18, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep i was here.

Milo is the meanest dog I’ve ever had, and i had a Rott, named Zeus

by CPT.Caveman on Mar 18, 2010 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha!

He’s a good lookin’ dude!

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by Buck'O on Mar 18, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree that T.O. should be in the AFCW

Hope the Broncos, Chargers, or Raiders sign him real soon.

by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 17, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Kray.....

stop smoking. I like the different look, regardless of how crazy I think it is. IMO.
I think continuity is good for any position in this game. For instance…
Terrell Owens – Would be opposite Bowe and Chambers, but I would like to draft a rookie and get him and Cassel in a rhythym (sp). With another receiver “merry-go-round” we will be stuck in the same place we were this year, and once again hindering our “rebuilding”
Brian Westbrook – A good Vet, but we have Thomas Jones and JC, would be no point to get him in here, especially if he is injury prone like lately and really has no better quality than JC or TJ… JC is just as good receiving and running, TJ is almost the receiver he is, but to me a bettergut runner which is why we got him.
Kevin Mawae – Casey Wiegmann… pointless unless for depth, and for depth i want a young guy rookie -3 years in the league..
Porter I wouldnt mind and Sharper I wouldnt mind if we didnt get a Berry or Thomas… But other than that I agree :P

Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.

by Pollard49 on Mar 17, 2010 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Point being

I want people who are going to be here through the next 5 years to play together so we can make a run CONSISTENTLY, not just to sell tickets and keep the stadium packed. If we get a “Patriots West” for real, the stadium and everyone around the NFL world will be watching regardless, just for a longer period of time.

Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.

by Pollard49 on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not saying I like kray's idea, but

I’m not sure you’re being fair to him Pollard.

The thing is, not every FA we’ve signed so far will be with us for the next 5 years either…so what’s the big deal?

Sign them for a “happy meal” like kray said and make them fight it out in camp to see who makes the team… Of course, if they suck, they don’t make the “right 53”. They get the boot in camp. Who cares? I think Kray does have a point there.

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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 17, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

but every guy that we bring in

takes a spot away from someone else who would be here long term and could help for a lot of years. Look at Lilja for a perfect example. We had no room for a young lineman because of veterans so we let him go and look what happened, we lost 5 years of solid production from a young guy.

by RamX21 on Mar 18, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

but those same lineman Lilja was here to study under

also suddenly retired. They were suppost to hold the fort down for a few more years.

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 18, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

right, you're proving my point

we didn’t keep the young guy to make room for veterans. Shields was in his 11th year when we cut Lilja. So say we draft a LB out of a small school and we also bring in Porter, of course Porter is going to win out in camp we cut the young guy he goes on to be solid somewhere else because we put a chip on his shoulder for cutting him.
      I’m all for bringing in veterans at a position of need, i agree with Sharper, the other guys in the list would just take away a spot from an up and comer.
    Would you like to bring in Porter and cut someone like Studebaker?

by RamX21 on Mar 18, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's why you bring them into CAMP first and see what it looks like.

There’s NO commitment. If one of those guys looks like he can be of help for a year of so then cool. If not wash your hands and say goodbye! No harm no foul! NO big deal. Weigmann may injured. Then what? Niswanger again? God help us. I’d rather have Mawae on deck just in case than Niswanger.

by krayfish on Mar 18, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard. We don't even have to assume these guys would be starters. So what. Let em'

come in once in awhile. They have no choice. Their unemployed. We’ll use them third string whatever. If Bowe gets suspened for a couple of games, there you have it. If Weigmann get injured, there you go. You have a capable backup waiting on deck. Your not losing any draft picks, your not touching your budget at all. Its excess money and there a zero risk factor.

by krayfish on Mar 18, 2010 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt any of them are going hungry...

You kind of just proved Rams point. If they can’t start, we don’t want back-ups drawing s.s. On the other hand, if they don’t start, what dif. does it make. I hate to say it… no, never mind.

by 12t on Mar 18, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear ya Kray and was not an attack just fyi :)

I like the post, some of it i do agree with but Ram kinda said what I was thinking. I just want continuity, give some new young guys time to see what they can do… I do LOVE sharper and Porter tho, great players that could have a great affect on the whole team :).

Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.

by Pollard49 on Mar 18, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pollard, we're good bro. We're always good. I never have any problems with you.

Hell, many times I’m one of the only guys that has your back when you bring up a point. I took what you said to heart. It’s stupid anyway. I was just thinking that with NO minimum salary obligations, we could low ball these guys, bring them in to camp and see what they had to offer. And then decide what to do.

Your always good with me Pollard always.

by krayfish on Mar 18, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is an excellent thought

It is a better plan than Stealing Arrowhead :)
Probably a better chance of getting through Raytown to

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 17, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I dunno ... I think holding Arrowhead for ransom would be MUCH more interesting than waiting for another TO rant

kray … kray, listen to me, ok? put down the gun … that’s right, empty all the jello out first … there you go! now step back from the ledge … come on, give me your hand, it’s ok … honest, it’s all going to be fine … TRUST ME!

and just as soon as I get you within arm’s reach I’m taking away your keyboad… THIS … is … the … single … dumbest … thing … I’ve … heard … in … forever …

think about it THIS way and then tell me if your head doesn’t spin off … let’s take Sharper off that list and replace him with … oh, imagine if LJ hadn’t been signed and was still on the market instead … ok? you with me here, right? then think about it again … what you’re proposing is that Pioli resign LJ, in essence … now, consider THAT for just a minute … ok, done? good! now then, one final question: does it STILL sound like fun??? cuz if so, I’m filing for divorce RIGHT now!

and I will get custody of ALL Chiefs memorabilia … INCLUDING the sweaty ballcap

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by upamtn on Mar 18, 2010 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+14

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by sgthall on Mar 18, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rec Kray

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 17, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd be down

for Porter and Sharper. Git’m cheap Pioli!

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by Buck'O on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 PM CDT reply actions  

agree

Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.

by Pollard49 on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sharper is the only one I could see coming here

He had a great season last year and he doesn’t come with the personality issues of Owens and Porter

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by Aperture on Mar 17, 2010 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

The problem with old FAs is...

they take up roster spaces that should held by the players the team is developing into the guys who win the big one. That’s another reason why it punches my buttons when I hear things like “move Albert, or trade Dorsey”. Those guys are just reaching their primes. Maybe they aren’t superstars yet. But, he bright spot is that they have both had two seasons as starters and their development has not been hindered by playing behind aging “names”. I have also been researching the composition of winning teams. There are some surprising numbers concerning the number of UDFA’s that the Superbowl teams have on their roster. Those guys would never get the chance to develop and be evaluated if KC took on every free agent they could. So, as long as there is a limited number of players an NFL team can carry, continuing to choose free agents carefully makes more sense to me.

by whoadog on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm cool with

Porter and Sharper……..let’s get em!

by Hail2DaChiefs on Mar 18, 2010 6:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Gifted Chiefs fan nailed it. Lets lock em all up so no other team can sign them

who cares then? If they suck in camp you cut em’ and oakland will sign them. We win either way. Then if they show to camp in football shape ready to go with a point to prove because their old and have a grudge, we win. If they don’t, we cut them, didn’t cost us any money at all, their gone.

It would be fun having those guys here. Westbrook. If only for an occasional Haley trick play. Whatever. It would sell some tickets. It would be entertaining.

by krayfish on Mar 18, 2010 7:04 AM CDT reply actions  

kray ... I was thinking YOU should be locked up

somewhere remote
for a long, long time
a nice padded cell … Steve and BRC would come to visit on Tuesdays …

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by upamtn on Mar 18, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get it

I don’t understand all the talk I see on the board about getting the fans excited and selling tickets. As a fan, I’m always excited. Our Chiefs suck. We are rebuilding. I’m excited. If we win six or more games this year, I’ll be happy. Eight or more games and I’m ecstatic. The rebuilding may take some time. I don’t want to see it sidetracked by moves designed for the instant gratification of the fan base. The stout fans will be happy with genuine progress. The “I want it now crowd” are making their own misery. Let them wallow in it.

Now on to another matter: Here’s a nice tutorial:

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-There,-Their-and-They’re

Pasting that link isn’t meant to be facetious nor patronizing. I’m not the spelling or grammar police, but seriously it’s a simple thing.

by zauberrer on Mar 18, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions  

our Chiefs do NOT suck!

they may be horrible, godawful, insanely bad … but they do NOT “suck”

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by upamtn on Mar 18, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

no but these 5 may suck...

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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 18, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey

I can’t believe they’re letting you put this there in their post……………….just practicing. I book marked the page , and i think i’ve improved some thanks to AP.

by CPT.Caveman on Mar 18, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

$8.50 + a shake

Neither their egos nor their agents would allow a low ball offer. I think that a few of them will get picked up by someone (not by us), I just don’t see it.

Nice post and something to think about though.

by Supersport on Mar 18, 2010 8:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I thought I heard a grinding noise this morning

Kray, did smoke come out of your ears when this idea popped in? J/K

Seriously, I would have to agree that the downside to this is it tends to arrest the development of those younger players because if we played close in all the games next year the tendency would be to continue playing the vets and not have the young guys logging hours. One or two of these guys might work out ok, but all of them is just too much. You are right about the “Fun” part though!

by Aiken_Drum on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice post Kray

and i completely agree. Maybe not all of them but why not try to get Sharper in here or Joey Porter? Offer them small amounts and then if someone else sees up trying and outbids us oh well, at least we were in the running. Both Porter and Sharper and hell even T.O. would help this club out immensly. Mawae i doubt we would try because of Weigmann and Westbrook either because of the duo of Game Over. Either way the fans have to be rejuvenated, they need to see winners on the field, people who have put their heart, souls, blood, sweat, and tears into the game, and are just sitting at home playing Madden running up their stats. I say sign them up!

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 18, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I just think some of us are putting the horse before the cart. We don't have to keep them.

We sign them so no one else can get them right now. Then we bring them to camp and check em’ out. THey could play a backup role for all I care. Or fill in on certain downs. We would jam the sports networks with Chiefs news.

It would generate some revenue and make people watch our preseason games. Sell some jerseys. No big deal.

by krayfish on Mar 18, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I know we still have lots of cap room

your right bring them in and take a look, if it doesnt work out, show them the same door Toomer and Thomas saw on the way out. But if we did sign Joey Porter or Sharper you know they would stick, they are competitors and would fight for a job so hard the entire team would improve.

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Please...

I can’t take another year of “Who’s wearing a Chiefs uniform this week?”. Don’t encourage them.

by 12t on Mar 18, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

12T. Listen man. First off, this is only pretend stuff. We have NOTHING else going on right now.

I was simply stating that if we did some signings like that we would flood the sports channels with Chiefs news. We would create some excitement in the offseason. People would tune in to watch our preseason games. It would be good. Its only training camp man. If they don’t have any value, cut them and move on. You haven’t lost anything because there is NO minimum salary requirements.

Secondly, it’s all for pretend. Its’ not going to happen. Pioli doesn’t answer to me. If he intended to do something like that he would have already. I am saying it would be fun for the preseason. And if your lucky, maybe Sharper or Porter surprise in training camp and show their worth a one year contract. Nothing more. No money out of pocket. We have so much extra money anyway.
All I am saying is that this is still entertainment. It’s supposed to be fun. And you will never stop the hundreds of thousands of AP members from guessing who’s next to wear red and gold. It’s fun man. It’s not all serious business for us right now. We’re fans, wer’e supposed to enjoy the land of pretend.

U are usually really laid back and have great insight. So keep it coming brother. Have a little fun. Don’t take it so serious. We’re just talking and having a little fun.

by krayfish on Mar 18, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Serious?

Surely you jest… Now that we have the coaches in place I expect us to look like a team by say…week 3. Don’t really care how many guys they sign, so long as we come out of camp with the right 53. In the Don we’ll trust

by 12t on Mar 18, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen man. I trust him too. He has done a fantastic job in the offseason so far.

I’m very impressed. He has pretty much fixed our O line. Not saying its elite or anything, but it is way improved. That was great stuff so far. I did those posts about “You Want the Best”? He has an amazing resume man. Well really, so does Haley. He’s been amazing at everything he’s ever touched.

Add Crennel and Weis to that mix and you got some serious talent leading this team. We are so seriously moving in the right direction.

by krayfish on Mar 18, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Krayzee post man

Fun post. Great reactions. Wrecked!

by breeder on Mar 18, 2010 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Just lurkin' mostly

My hilarious comments have been coming to me a day or so after the threads have gone cold.

Are you in the Tampa area? I spent 2 months in Lakeland in "06. Nice weather. A little different than here in Seattle.

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