AP Interview: Bob Gretz Dishes on Derrick Johnson
by Matt Conner on Mar 17, 2010 12:30 PM CDT
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PrintWelcome to Derrick Johnson week. I'm obsessed with understanding this issue as best as I can. The ability to leave such a talented player on the bench so much of last season was beyond me. So along with yesterday's post which attempted to ask the right questions regarding the Todd Haley and Derrick Johnson saga, today I turn to the wisdom of others. Introducing the ever-helpful Bob Gretz, who everyone here will know from his decades of covering the Chiefs as a beat writer for the Star and a radio reporter as well.
Now, you can catch Bob over at his website at BobGretz.com. It's a daily read for me as he not only gives insightful comments on the Chiefs, but notes from around the NFL as well. I recently asked his take on a number of things regarding Derrick Johnson's situation and he immediately responded with some great answers.
You can find Gretz's helpful opinions after the jump:
I sense within the off-limit halls on the second floor of Chiefs central that there's a realization that they may not have done the best job in the world last year of getting something out of Johnson. Part of coaching is taking what you have and maximizing the talent and production. Not every player is motivated in the same manner and it's the job of the coaching staff to find the buttons and push the right ones. That didn't get done with DJ. He's just an easy going guy, who doesn't show much emotion and sometimes has a focus problem. He handled himself well last year, better than many others would have under similar circumstances.
On giving DJ a first-round tender:
I think the Chiefs gave him with a first-round tender because they realize he's one of the few defensive players they have who can make something happen. Talent is not in abundance on that side of the ball. They need to take another stab at getting production out of him.
On DJ's chances of staying with the Chiefs next season:
I would expect that DJ will be with the Chiefs this season. No. 1, I don't think there would be much of a market for him with a first-round tender on him. He does not have the career that would justify giving up a first-round choice, unless some team at the very bottom of the draft was desperate. Generally, the fact they are drafting late means they seldom are that desperate for a fifth-year LB with mediocre numbers. Should a team offer a second-round pick in a negotiation with the Chiefs, I think they would jump on that type of offer simply because they would get a younger player.
I think the change in defensive coordinator and a year of working with him will make Johnson more of a factor in '10. Unless they can get a first or second round choice, I think it would be a mistake to trade him at this point, but let's be honest, anything could happen.
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last paragraph was golden
get him in there with Crennel, let him work out his problems, and dominate in 2010
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
Hopefully Crennel & Gibbs
can get this guy to focus and be consistent. A consistent DJ is a top 10 LB in the league. Heres to hoping…
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 17, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think its because he isnt good
He is the yo-yo player Haley was talking about all season. He flashes greatness, and then reverts to mediocrity. He has to get consistent. You dont get 3 ints and return them all for 60+ yards and take 2 to the house in limited time, if you’re not good…
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 17, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Brilliant.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 17, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap
Derrick Johnson is a 5th year LB? Where did the time go?
What a disappointment.
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Pioli is big on
Getting good football players period…DJ is a very good football player and I agree with everything Bob said as well. I hope Romeo knows how to get 110% out of Derrick because he can be a deadly weapon when he is at the top of his game.
Go Chiefs!
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I'd rather he start with getting 90% out of him before
setting a goal so lofty as 110%.
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by Justin Bopp on Mar 17, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well of course that is just wishfull thinking
once we get 90% out of him then maybe we could aim for 101% and perhaps work towards 110%?
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by kabrink on Mar 17, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that is true.
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I don't know...honestly I think the guy misses a lot of tackles, makes a lot of mistakes...
I just don’t agree that hes a “very good football player”…to be a GOOD football player you need to be consistent…hes never been consistent…even in the 2 INT game, he followed one pick with 5 missed tackles, 3 on a scoring drive.
But hey, if he has a good attitude, wants to work, and crennel sees something…ok…I just think there comes a time when hes either going to get it or just be that yo-yo school yard player…do we take value now that we can, or see if hes going to change?
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by SDChief on Mar 17, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
He may miss a lot of tackles
But he has averaged more solo tackles over the last 5 years than either DeMarcus Ware or James Harrison and he is right behind them in assisted tackles as well.
Solo
DJ – 63.6 (even with like 37 last year which is awful)
DW – 56
JH – 50.6
Asst
JH – 18
DW – 15.2
DJ – 13.8
Of course plucking 1 stat out of them all doesn’t make him a great player but when his main job is tackling and he is close in stats with 2 of the top 5 LB in the league I think that says something…
Now when it comes to sacks he is nowhere near either of them…but we were just talking tackles.
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I havent looked yet
but I wonder how many tackls the d-line and other linebackers had infront of the other two.
Kinda like pollard (I liked him, so no one start tearing on my about that), he was the leading tackler on our team because so many plays made it to that level. So in PIT and DAL, how many play get stopped at the line by casey hampton and jay ratliff. In turn, conpare those numbers to ron edwards.
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 17, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Tackles....is one of the most meaningless statistics in football.
It ranks right up there with your bench press at the combine.
Add up all the tackles listed for each defender during the course of any one game. Then, count up every snap that the opposing offence and special team took for the entire game.\
You’ll notice right away that there are far more tackles than there are actual plays the majority of the time. There is no way to divide a tackle to 2 or 3 players accurately, so the stat is just not right.
If the DE rushing the QB pushes the OT right back into the RB and a LB comes in and touches the RB while hes laying on the ground…the LB gets the stat for the tackle. He was the first player to touch the downed RB. That tackle should be credited to the DE, but it won’t be.
If an OLB executes an edge blitz and the QB has to scramble, gets tripped up and out of pure desperation 1/2 shoves teh ball into the hands of a RB that is currently trying to block and alrady falling down….. and the NT happens to be the guy that puts his hand on the RB’s shoulder on the way down….. Should that tackle go to the NT or the OLB? I’d say it goes to the OLB that actually caused it…but the NFL will give it to the NT. If the NT AND the ILB both happen to bump into the RB on his way down then they EACH get credited for the tackle that they didn’t really make.
If a LB is SUPPOSED to be playing the A gaps and stuffing the run at the line of scrimmage…and he completely blows his assignment……flowing outside his gap…..and the RB cuts back into the gap; And then the safety comes up and puts a massive STICK on the RB 7 yards down the field and stops him cold in his tracks….and THEN the LB regains his footing and wraps up/hits the RB on his way to the ground……. The LB gets the tackle. he doesn’t deserve it. The safety deserves the credit. MAYBE the safety AND the LB will get the credit. Sometimes only 1 of them will, sometimes both. There is no consistency in the manor that the stat is ‘scored’.
The tackle statistic means almost nothing.
I’m not saying I don’t like DJ. I like DJ. i think he’s an incredible athlete with real skills as a shallows pass defender and pick off artist. I think he’s one of the few ‘big play potential’ guys we have on the whole defense. The point is that DJ is flat out BAD against the run and QB blitzing. He WILL NOT be on the field if he has to be counted on to play that role. They will put him on the bench, just like they did last year. If you want to see DJ do what he does best then convince Scott Pioli that ILB run stuffer/QB blitzer should be in his top 2 or 3 priority wise.
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by Texas Chief on Mar 17, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1
Tackles is a very misleading stat.
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 17, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Skewed data
He may miss a lot of tackles
But he has averaged more solo tackles over the last 5 years than either DeMarcus Ware or James Harrison and he is right behind them in assisted tackles as well.
Solo
DJ – 63.6 (even with like 37 last year which is awful)
DW – 56
JH – 50.6
Asst
JH – 18
DW – 15.2
DJ – 13.8
Of course plucking 1 stat out of them all doesn’t make him a great player but when his main job is tackling and he is close in stats with 2 of the top 5 LB in the league I think that says something…
Now when it comes to sacks he is nowhere near either of them…but we were just talking tackles.
You’re comparing DJ to two pass-rushing OLB’s from 3-4 defenses…their job is to sack the QB not get tackles. DJ should be compared to 4-3 LB’s, or ILB’s in 3-4 defenses.
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You're skewing the stats - Harrison has only been a starter for 3 years
and Ware is primarily a blitzing LB. It’s a totally invalid comparison.
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obviously the chiefs think quite differently… while they didnt put a 1st and 3rd… the 1st round tender effectively takes him out of the free agent market… you just dont do that to mediocre talent… we all have to smell what the chiefs are cooking… and DJ is on the menu… whether we like it or not…
new draft wishlist 031210:
1. eric berry fs
2. brandon spikes ilb
2. kyle wilson cb
3. jd walton oc
4. myron rolle ss
5. jacoby ford wr
5. torell troup nt
5. dennis pitta te
He and the rest of the inconsistent-but-talented defensive players...
…should improve with improved coaching this year, but I expect the real dividends to be in 2011, when Crennel has had two full off-seasons plus a full 16 games with the team.
I attribute most of the defensive failures to defensive coaching in the post-Marty era.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 17, 2010 12:48 PM CDT reply actions
I know you said "most" but,
Ryan Sims.
His NC counterpart is on the back leg of a hall-of-fame career. Man, man. Imagine the difference that would have made if they were switched.
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by Justin Bopp on Mar 17, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Explain Jared Allen
If it’s simply the coaching, then how does a 4th round DE turn into one of the most dominating pass rushers in the league. Coaching only goes so far. DJ is what he is. Three different coaching regimes so far, all with the same results.
by CapsLockKey on Mar 17, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously
when are fans going to hold Derrick Johnson accountable for Derrick Johnson? Seems like everyone wants him to be great so badly that it just has to be something outside of his control that makes him such a disappointment. Poor coaching, being misused, no talent around him. I’m sure I’m missing a few other excuses that have been thrown around over the years.
by CapsLockKey on Mar 17, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1 billion
and i love the guy.
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It's a combination of all things, but
I do agree that we’ve had a run of poor defensive coaching.
1) First, Vermeil held on to loyalty to Robinson too long.
2) Then after making some strides with Gunther, we bring in Herm who forces a different defense down Gunther’s throat that is completely at odds with Gunther’s philosophy.
3) Haley is forced to settle for Pendergast after assembling a staff late. (but don’t be too hard on Pendergast, he only had one year)
by VermeilLikesToCry on Mar 17, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I loved Pendergast...
…but only as a DBs coach. I think his appointment as DC did both him and the players a disservice, because I don’t think he has the high-level picture for it.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 17, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Some of that may be true
but GREAT players don’t need excuses. They are great because they are great. Derrick Johnson isn’t a bad player, but he will NEVER live up to the hype that continues to surround him. I take him for what he is. A guy who can make huge plays, but doesn’t have the motor or head to be a consistent every down backer and becomes a liability at times. As crappy a job as Gunther did in his last stint, one thing he knows is linebackers. Even when he took over the LB coaching duties he couldn’t get anything more out of him.
There are exceptions
Some guys come in and overcome the coaching, but it’s hardly realistic to expect that of every player.
Three different coaching regimes so far…and all were abject failures. So do you think all these draft picks put toward defense that have failed so far have been mostly a result of completely blown draft evaluations, or is it largely coaching? Well, considering lots of other teams were big on a number of these players (Sims, for example), I’d say it’s pretty safe to say that the common factor—coaching—has probably been the culprit. Not only has there been extremely poor defensive coaching, but DC has been a revolving door. That’s going to naturally lead to a lot of inconsistency on the defense as a whole.
Also, note that Jared Allen didn’t actually make the defense better as a whole, but rather had a lot of individual success. I’ll say it again: Jared Allen achieved as an individual, but didn’t help the defense achieve as a unit.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 17, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Explain Jared Allen
If it’s simply the coaching, then how does a 4th round DE turn into one of the most dominating pass rushers in the league. Coaching only goes so far. DJ is what he is. Three different coaching regimes so far, all with the same results.
I can explain Jared Allen…he only fell to the 4th because of character issues and the school he attended…EVERYONE knew he was a dominant pass rusher in college. Had he been sober and gone to Michigan, he’d have been picked in the 1st round.
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That doesn't explain why his development wasn't
stymied by the terrible coaching that is responsible for the lack of development from Derrick Johnson?
That wasn't my intent
I just always like to clarify things anytime someone brings up the fact that Jared Allen fell to the 4th round.
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I disagree with Gretz
A first round tender is for a guy you WANT to trade, a first and third you want to keep. I se a trade. I like DJ btw.
maybe in years past
but not in this draft and Pioli knows it. This draft is so deep everyone is going to hold onto their firsts or swap them, i doubt anyone offers up a first for him.
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
It isn't that DJ isn't good. IMO, It's that he is a roaming freelancer....
….and without good solid talent around him he gets exposed. When we get a really good LB to play next to him, a decent NT and a talented saftey or two then DJ will be able to freelance and do what he does, which is make plays. He NEEDS others to pick up his slack when instinctively reacts. Without that he looks like he is blowing his assignments…. which technically he is and he becomes a “yo-yo” liability.
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I called it school yard, but yes, free lancer
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I can't really jump on the freelancer bandwagon
The primary knock on DJ coming out of Texas was that he didn’t do well at fighting through blocks. I’ve seen plays where he I don’t know if he’s freelancing or has decided it’s not worth the effort to fight through or around a blocker. Hopefully Romeo can fix whichever issue it is.
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DJ is decent in pass coverage but a liability in run defense.
Maybe a NT helps that…who knows…If we can get a 2nd for him, im down. As much potential I think he has, we can sit around and wait for him to blossom. It has been 4/5 years now…
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 17, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions
He is worth a #1 ez.
Put DJ on a good d and you got 6 more years of good to very good lb play and that is ez worth a #1.Most players bust from the draft.
I would take a 3 honestly..try to squeeze a 7 maybe
Jamaal "do it all" Charles
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
what planet are you on?
We got a #2 for a hall of fame Tight End with around 5 years left in him.
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Boldin didn't even command more than a 3rd
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I would take a 3rd!
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yeah. I know, just trying to soften the blow for when it happens
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KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Hell, we got a 1st for JARED ALLEN
you think we could get that for DJ?
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Im ok with that trade :) Jamaal Charles!
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we got a first and 2 thirds
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 17, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It was a remarkable trade.
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yea, we picked up branden albert and jamaal charles from that trade
i’d say it worked out VERY well.
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 17, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That's how I see it...
I love and pull for TG, but he left us to go and win a Super Bowl…. Honestly… I’m not seeing that happen for Atlanta any time soon… At least not in the time 88 has left.
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And…I believe they missed the playoffs with him last year…I bet they would take their 2nd rounder back 100 times out of 100 right now….
by The IT Guy on Mar 17, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am STOKED with the tony trade...Id much rather have that pick at this point.
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Even if our pick(s) don't pan out,
the Jared Allen and Tony Gonzalez trades will always be good decisions rooted in a correct football value philosophy.
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and when we get better
expect to see more of our good players get flipped, its the Patriots philosopy
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
ok
Look back at the top 5 te drafted for the last 5 years.then tell me you can replace Tg with a #2.I know salery is a factor also but come on.
TE isnt a big part of the weis offense regardless..
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I don't necessarily believe this.
I think you mean, “receiving TEs aren’t as important as blocking TEs from what we’ve seen of the Weis offensive scheme.”
And the corollary, “…and blocking TEs are less expensive that receiving TEs.”
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yes
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100 percent, stupid statement in hindsight...but yes what I meant was a recieving TE is not big in the offense
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props
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I agree. Haley's offense didn't utilize the TE much.
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Antonio Gates. Not in the last five years but relevent.
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Don't forget the fact that Tony is near the end of his career
He would have retired in the next year or two while the Chiefs were still rebuilding and they would have gotten nothing in return. Plus consider the fact that Tony made it pretty apparent he wanted to be traded to a contender to finish out his last days. He didn’t outright demand one, but he came up just short of that.
It was too late last Spring for Haley to get "his" coaching staff together like he would
want. For him to work with, get to motivate, and be able to motivate in the right way all the players would have been expecting way too much. Under those circumstances Coach Haley and the coaches he did have, did the best they could and we could slowly see the results. Now, with a full year under his belt, knowing the players, getting his coaches and getting more and more of his players (the right 53) we are going to see a tremendous amount of progress. And, I’d strongly guess that they see the potential in Johnson and he, as well as many others, will have fantastic years. Guys like Vrabel, Waters, etc. would not be as content and want to be Chief’s if they did not see the changes that they have. This will be a much better team.
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Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
This is how it boils down for me
After watching Corey Mays for a year I think DJ could have played no worse.
But he could have played better. Mays made no big plays for the defense but DJ has the ability to make game changing plays. I would put them even on a snap by snap basis but DJ’s big play ability gives him the edge.
Big mistake in my opinion, that Haley rolled with Mays and left DJ on the bench.
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Disagree completely.
I would rather know what I was getting from someone, and you get that with Mays. Hes not perfect, but he does what he is supposed to do. DJ, if in a full season, would really have shown how disconnected he was…..
It's the classic upside vs. consistency philosophy.
We know which side our staff stands on.
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Sorry but Mays was not very good
I often took terrible angles and got swallowed up by blockers.
A couple of times I saw him him run directly behind Williams and run into the back of him when Williams got blocked while the running back ran around both of them.
Maybe DJ does the same kind of dumb crap some times but at least on the next play he might pick it and return it for a TD.
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by Patrick Allen on Mar 17, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
i dunno.
It might do you good to watch some of the tape. Mays may not be good, but he lines up right and goes in the right direction. Too many times DJ is out of place. Also, its apparent mays is at least coachable….DJ has not shown that yet…
good point
Mays is still pretty young as well but he may just not be a starting material. Seems to be at the very least a good backup.
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by Patrick Allen on Mar 17, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
so hes worth big money? because that is what it WILL boil down to...we pay him, or we move him
last season? not the concern…plus DJ is just such an inconsistent entity..
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agreed
didnt we tender Mays a third rounder? Although i feel neither will be wanted by other team on the open market, Mays never should have seen the field, he was awful at best.
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
Once again
Odd are a #1 draft pick this year will not do what dj has done.I am not saying a would give a #1 but odds are thats what it will take to replace him.I dont see whats so unreal about that?
it's on the same line as your name and the time stamp of the post.
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You can keep ignoring salient points all you want,
it doesn’t make it true.
And no, the odds are not that less than 50% of the #1s will make less of an impact that Derrick Johnson has. That’s simply not true.
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Friends with a background in logic,
please explain to this fellow what a Red Herring is.
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red herring
when you bring up irrelevant information to distract or discredit an arguement
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 17, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey jake...how you been? You little red herring expert! lol
Hey here’s my take. DJ is very talented. Very talented. That does not always equate to good solid consistent play on the field. So we don’t really know if he has what it takes to be a CONSISTENT threat on defense.
But his case like so many other Chiefs is a complete mystery since they came in either under Herms lax OTA’s and with sub par coaching, or they came in last season when we were on the brink of imploding every week.
This year is critical as Haley has stated several times, for several players. This is PUt upor shut up year. there won’t be any excuses after this year for anyone, including Haley.
Agreed...
Although, I have been hearing the put up or shut up on DJ for 2 yrs now….
Like I said earlier....
DJ is doing what DJ does and he will never be “consistant”, it’s what makes him so great and frusterating at the same time. He NEEDS solid players around him to pick up his slack when he freelances and without that he looks inconsistant. And we haven’t put him in that position yet.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
I don't even buy this, unless its part of defensive scheme
Why should all the other guys work hard all offseason and during the week to always be in the right spot, just so they can cover the ass of a guy who might “make plays”.
That's my point.
We don’t have the guys to do that. Do other teams? I think the Ravens do and DJ would BLOW UP there. He needs solid players around him to make him “look” consistant. It is partially scheme because everyone has to know that he will be freelancing. So yes, the do the dirty work so DJ can do what he does and he gets the glory. Not fair but it’s the only way to make it work.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
thats true...but I do feel this is different. You can't blame the coaches anymore after this year
If Crennel can’t get the best out of him , then he’s a sunk ship here in KC>
kray, I'll buy that line ... BUT ... do give Crennel a year to work some magic with DJ
… and … give Crennel more run-stuffing LB’s so FJ can do his in-space/outer-space roaming thing which is what he’s best at … we NEED that run stuffing LB and NT up front so the LB’s can do what they’re SUPPOSED to do within the scheme … and Crennel should be able to make that happen (in theory) now that we have Shaun Smith (should be NT upgrade, at least) … now give him a SPOON to work with and that Front 7 could be MUCH improved over last year
{{pay no attention to BRC … DJ can be VERY good with a better supporting cast}}
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Isn't that what I said Ups? Or was I making so much logical sense that you couldn't make it all the way throught the comment? ( ;
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
wait ... lemme get this straight ...
you’re asking me to THINK?!?
AND type … at the SAME TIME?!?
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Maybe you should try it more often.
It’s called multi-tasking. I’ll cut you some slack though because you always have your damn foot in your mouth. ( =
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
Im no mizzou fan so im not sure
but isn’t Spoon a very similiar play to DJ?
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
good, work interupts AP sometimes during the day.
I agree with you, and this is why.
How much defensive luxury do we have? Do we have that strong defense that is good to the point that 10 players can cover most everything while you have someone that roves and shoots for the moon? The answer is no.
Right now we need solid player that do what they are suppose to and can be counted on. I myself have to resist putting too much on that performance against the donks in week 17. I’d say in a couple few years when we have a solid defense, without obvious weakness in any paticular place, then we have room for a shoot the moon player like DJ.
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 17, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Matt - very nice work and ty very much, good stuff and a good read ... and I loved ...
Part of coaching is taking what you have and maximizing the talent and production. Not every player is motivated in the same manner and it’s the job of the coaching staff to find the buttons and push the right ones. That didn’t get done with DJ
many of us have said that for awhile now … I said that same thing again yesterday in the DJ post … Haley’s “in your face” tactics do NOT work for everyone, and I think Crennel will be able to get DJ to produce at a level at least CLOSE to his ability (also helps to have some run stuffers around him so he can do his thing and play in space where he shines – would LOVE to get Spoon for that run-stuffing position, he and DJ inside, Vrabel and Hali on the flanks … oh yeah!)
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hi, Mo!
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apparently
Herm’s nice guy coaching didn’t work for him either. At some point, we have to realize the guy is one of those that simply won’t ever live up to 1st Rd pick expectations. He’s at least somewhat a bust and we have to realize it.
You sometimes learn something everyday.
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by kabrink on Mar 17, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you
He’s been through enough coaching changes. SOMEone should have gotten through to him by now.
He just doesn’t have enough passion for the game, imo, and doesn’t take the extra time to truly hone his craft.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius
Plain and simple
DJ doesn’t play with any heart until there are consequences.
by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Mar 17, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions
exactly.
as i mentioned in a previous comment, now that crennel is onboard, DJ could blossom.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
for every great play DJ makes...
he’s out of position on another 5. it’s kind of like an assist/turnover ratio in basketball and it’s the type of up and down play that drives coaches insane.
exaggeration
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 17, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
exaggeration
You sometimes learn something everyday.
This is why you lift all them weights. Parcells
Is there an echo in here?
It made sense where I posted it, but not where you did.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 17, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what she said
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 18, 2010 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions
EH
I like DJ. I think he is good. regardless hes exciting. If they trade him than trade him, if they keep him, get consistency out of him… if you dont get that cut his ass or whatever… I want a good Chiefs team, im tired of getting attached to certain ones who I WANT to be good instead of ones who are just goood. Bye DJ or Hello DJ, I dont care… lol
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
by Pollard49 on Mar 17, 2010 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+2
sums it up
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by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 17, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
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