The Chiefs have signed Ryan Lilja.
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Wade Smith
is better, he can run block, this guy, not so much.
by JohnNdallas on Mar 16, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Even
if thats true Smith is gone and Lilja is here now. We needed to bring in somebody that could help out and Lilja is a good signing.
Funny how we all
Praise Polian for his genus when we look at their roster, but the min he cuts a guy, he suddenly becomes less so. Pioli’s second mistake as I see it not resigning Smith, last yr was him NOT signing Jason Brown.
I wanted Jason Brown last year...
But Lilja was cut, primarily because Indy was changing their running game/philosophy. We’re running the ZB scheme that they ran when Lilja was more effective. It requires smaller more mobile OL.
So, he’s a good pickup for us, and probably was a smart cut for them.
i haven't read anything about anyone questioning Polian on AP
all i’ve read is the Colts wanting to go bigger on their line, going to a power blocking scheme, and Lilja didn’t fit that need anymore.
This is excellent
NND, I don’t understand how you can say Smith is better than Lilja. In my mind, a OL starter on the Colts during two Super Bowls, must be better than a back up on the 7 wins in two season Chiefs OL.
I really like Wade Smith and am sad that he left, but there is no way that Smith can compare to Lilja if he couldn’t beat Allman out for a starting position.
by TXChiefan on Mar 16, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We dont
Run to the right anyway. Plus how often did we run up the gut? With Jones now we can just run to the left and be fine. When we we did run right it was off tackle JC is too fast for DTs.
by BiiG_C on Mar 16, 2010 1:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
didn't he play LG?
just saying even though i think he would probably move to the right. and, maybe we didn’t run to the right for a reason
Yes!!!!
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
by SDChief on Mar 16, 2010 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
maybe they make the programs :)
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
we can trust it.
the official press release was just read on Chiefs’ Live (http://www.kcchiefs.com)
hahaha
yes!
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
I think that's your dog.
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by BigRedChief on Mar 16, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
ha!
wasnt sure if I has going to get in trouble for that post, just very “stimulated” by that signing!
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
so so stoked for a super bowl experienced 27-28 year old guard...big piece potentially
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Kinda iffy source but...
It was retweeted by Kent Babb who is reliable…so idk I’m just gonna be happy for a bit and get excited once its confirmed.
by BiiG_C on Mar 16, 2010 12:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I will trust it and celebrate
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
HAHAHA!
That’s the right answer! YES! Good job Pioli. Much happier about the job you’re doing so far this year.
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Yes...
Now bring in TO…..at least he can run routes and catch the ball. Also you can cut him at any time.
by NFL season ticket holder on Mar 16, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously? We want stability not dysfunction.
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by BigRedChief on Mar 16, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Can I flag this?
I have a feeling that 2010 will be a defining year for the Kansas City Chiefs. Do we become the 2001 Patriots or footballs version of the royals??
by Cowboynchrist on Mar 16, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
TO can catch the ball?
I seem to remember seeing quite a few highlights of easy dropped passes in recent years.
he's always near the top of the league in drops
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
by stagdsp on Mar 16, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But it evens out:
He demands the ball so much that the QB and OC throw to him more often than they should just so he shuts the fuck up.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
-14
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
so glad its not just me that would throw up a little
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KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Whoa! Easy there big fella. You can't just go throwing things like that around.
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by BigRedChief on Mar 16, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think you understand.
+14 signifies the likeness of Eric Berry’s awesomeness. -14 signifies the likeness of total unawesomeness… that’s not even a word, haha.
But it’s true. T.O. would be the worst Chiefs FA signing ever.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes, yes he would...it would rival re-signing LJ
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Ever? That's another subject.
Anyway, anything that includes a 14, be that + or -, cannot be thrown around frivolously. There’s power in them there numbers.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
by BigRedChief on Mar 16, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
And a comment that says “Now bring in TO” in the wake of the Lilja news is about as -14 as it gets.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Point taken but I sure hope you know how to handle that thing. (=
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lol.
I’ll try not to shoot anyone’s eyes out.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Good but if you need me I'll be under my desk.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
I went to the Bills game last year...
It’s painfully amazing how obvious it is when they’re going to throw to him. When it’s a pass play to TO, he bolts off the line like it’s the game-winning catch in the championship. When it’s a run play, he barely jumps off in time to meet the guy he’s going to half-ass block. I don’t think he’s as bad as he used to be, but it’s still clear to me he’s in this game for himself.
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
Terrell, you know you're not supposed to be trolling NFL blogs...
… That’s what you pay your agent for. Now go get em champ!
PS — TO can’t catch.
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Yeah...
uhm… I had to REC that…
Now I need to go clean myself up…
sorry.
I have a feeling that 2010 will be a defining year for the Kansas City Chiefs. Do we become the 2001 Patriots or footballs version of the royals??
i love this
i woke up and of course, checked AP first thing due to my lilja related curiosity..and right at the top of the page shore’s post had been made “less than a minute ago”. I knew it was pointless to wake up before 12:30pm!
I’m curious about the terms; excited, nonetheless
by The DBowe Show on Mar 16, 2010 12:37 PM CDT reply actions
Nice.
Albert – Waters – Weigmann – Lilija – O’Callaghan
I’m good if we start the season with these guys. Makes it that much easier to use our first pick on a “luxury” position.
Make sure Peter King knows about this.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 12:38 PM CDT reply actions
looks pretty good
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that looks decent and we can now grab a Center in the 3rd or later to train up and get ready to take wiegs spot next year
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by redmedicone on Mar 16, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
And Waters.
I’m still thinking that mid to late round interior OL picks are needed, but at least we don’t have to draft them high and have them start immediately. We already have a first round LT. That’s the only OL position you should really be picking in the top 10.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Babb and Petro both saying he's our starting RG
But I’d put Waters at RG, personally and go with Lilja at LG.
We’ll see what happens, I think it suits both of their strengths better.
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by redmedicone on Mar 16, 2010 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
No D'ohs in this free agency.
I’m ready for August.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
im ready for August as well
going to be so much fun this year!
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
still wonder about andra, hasnt signed with the bills quite yet.
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KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Whoops
Meh.
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by BigRedChief on Mar 16, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
ship it!
Great signing imo
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Mar 16, 2010 12:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
just glad we brought home a guy who should have never left while still in his prime
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
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YES!!!
Just got the text message alert from 610. Here’s to more depth at the very least on our OLINE!!!!!!
Day 1 of free agency this year...
overreact much doom and gloomers???
Anyway, glad Lilja is on board!
No doubt
With the whole not knowing about Lilja and PK’s "The Chiefs would “NEVER” take a Saftey" this pressure cooker was getting steamy.
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by BigRedChief on Mar 16, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Timeout.
Okay Peter King… who are we going to draft then?
If we are going to build the line up… who do we spend a #5 pick on after signing Lilja and Weigmann?
Sounds like they are building the line through FA and did not go for Rolle when they HAD THE CHANCE, b/c they are selecting Eric Berry.
Plus, if Suh is not there at #5, you can cancel out building the D-Line… Okung will also be gone b/c of the Lions.
Eric Berry's #1 Fan... and #2 Fan. +14
The more depth they sign,
the more he can sign the best player available. Lilja is an upgrade for sure, but our OL is still in desperate need of young talent. Maybe not at number 5 though.
who knows, may finally use the 5th round to nab some OL help...we missed on a few in the past couple years that were just sitting there(nicks, duke robinson)
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
The difference between "Awesomeness" and "Unawesomeness"
Awesomeness= Eric Berry…give credit where credit is due
Unawesomeness=TALKING about Eric Berry in every single thread on AP
you have made your case, you have your own fan club, you have new posts almost every day that are at least somewhat defensive oriented, please let it go on posts not even remotely related to EB/draft or defense.
by chiefsandcigars on Mar 16, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great News
At least we have a decent O-Line. Pioli / Haley are fixing the mess that Herm done in his era.
I think the chiefs will trade down and will get help at LB and DT
DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES?
do you believe in miracles
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by BigRedChief on Mar 16, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
They are gonna say....
With Alleman, Indukwae, and Wade Smith all off the team….
The Chiefs had no choise. They do not have a single ORG on their roster, not even ONE.
They will have to draft a Guard no matter what because they dont have one, but signing a player that knows the position, even one with a question mark at physical endurace was an absolute most for the Chiefs, unless they wanted to go into the draft NEEDING a starter at RG and a back up at RG incase the starter gets dinged.
ORG was a ‘must have one NOW’ position. I would not count on this guy being stellar or the cream of the crop. But at this point; he’s a warm body to fill a position that was completly open on the roster.
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by Texas Chief on Mar 16, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
reports on kent babb's twitter say he had 2 other offers of more money last night...
I think hes more than a warm body.
they have more depth there than people think, colin brown is a complete unknown who was drafted for a reason…we have 3 5’s that usually can turn into a solid guard, or two…
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Chris Hamblin was the source about Lilja having two other offers that were better...
And he’s NOT a reliable source, IMO. But that doesn’t mean it’s not true.
Regardless, I think we do have our ORG, and his name is Brian Waters.
Lilja can be a very solid LG and Waters at this point is more suited to RG, IMO. We’ll see, but that’s my prediction.
To Texas Chief’s point, I agree we need to address interior OL in the draft, by 2011 we will for sure need a new C, and I’d fully support drafting an interior OL in the rounds 2-4 if they feel the value is right. It is now more of a long term need than a short term one, however.
i can see em sayin something like that and i turn off the TV haha
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by redmedicone on Mar 16, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The guy started in 16 games for a 14-2 regular season team that made it to the Super Bowl.
The guy was a starting guard on a Super Bowl team. He’s a little more than a “warm body”. He started in the freaking Super Bowl!!!
What the hell do you want?
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The guy was assessed by the coaching staff that is KNOWN for it's ability to pick and churn out OL...
…and he was cut for failing a physical.
I trust the Colts brass when it comes to OL precisely because year after year they have shown a knack for identifying talent and coaching players.
The Colts have a good to great OL every single season because their scounts and brass seem to have NAILED the ability to idetify talent in linemen. If theose guys are telling you that a player hasn’t passed a physical and they they are perfectly ok with letting that player walk……I’d believe them.
He’s a warm body/stop gap that’s here to fill a huge gaping hole on the roster, nothing more.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
Colts are moving away from smaller lineman
Lilja didn’t fit their system any more. Pretty simple. He fits our system, didn’t fit there’s.
Can he play RG?? That I don’t know, but I bet he can play LG for us, and I bet he’s a starting OL for us for at minimum 2 seasons.
I'm guessing this is why Tony Ugoh starts for them
you can never say that an organization mastered scouting a position, free agency and the draft are too much of a toss up
Plus it was the new O line coach in Indy that wanted Lilja gone, he wants big lineman, LIlja doesn’t qualify. Check the stats Lilja was solid last season despite playing next to two horrible LT’s
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oh he's certainly an upgrade for the Chiefs.... Hell, it would be hard NOT to be.
If he plays RG he would be upgrading…..nobody. Since we don’t have one ont he roster. It’s pretty easy to be an upgrade over a giant gaping hole on the field =P
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right
Guess all there is to do now is sit and hope the ZB scheme turns him into a rockstar
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News is also on laCanfora's twitter page.
Great news!
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Lilja and Wiegman stats
Reposting from another thread, now that Lilja is here (hooray!)
Here are how teams’ Offensive lines ranked last year: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
In runs up the middle: Denver’s OL with Wiegman taking every snap at center ranked 6th in the league, at 4.41 yards/carry. Indy, with Lilja at guard, taking every snap until the last game, when he sat out some okays to rest for the postseason, was 8th in the league at 4.39. KC was 30th, at 3.34 yards. The league average on runs up the middle was 4.08.
In pass protection, Indy was #1, no surprise there. Denver was 12th, and KC was 25th.
Those are ranks for the offensive lines as a whole, but Lilja and Weigman were starters on those lines, and it’s hard to imagine that Lilja wouldn’t be an upgrade here, and if Weigman plays as he did last year, he surely would be.
Pro Football focus ranks linemen individually, after reviewing every play of the season.
They have Wiegman as a -5.5 player last season, a bit below average, with his biggest issue being called for 6 penalties. He seemed to rate solidly at run blocking and pass blocking:
http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=&surn=wiegman&playerid=227
By comparison, they have Niswanger at -13.3 last year:
http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=&surn=niswanger&playerid=3442 He was called for 6 penalties as well. Interestingly, they show Niswanger playing horribly for the first half of the year, but getting better as the season went along. I think most people would agree that the Chiefs OL improved from horrible to not so bad by the end of the year. They show that Jacksonville, Baltimore and Pittsburgh abused Niswanger badly, but he played decently in the rest of the games.
They have Lilja as a +7.9 player, which is solidly above average, and a +3.8 run blocker, which is also above average: http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=&surn=lilja&playerid=2105
He wasn’t called for a single penalty all year, according to that site.
For KC, in only 486 plays, Goff was a -12. He allowed 11 QB pressures, 4 sacks and 3 hits. They have Waters as our best OL, and Albert having a miserable year, especially with the 13 penalties called on him. Alleman had horrible numbers, but Idukwe was a tiny bit above average in limited playing time.
http://profootballfocus.com/cstats.php?tab=by_team&season=2009&teamid=16&stype=a&stats=o
People always quibble with the numbers from PFF, but at least they review every play of the season, so even if you disagree with some of their numbers, it’s coming from watching every play. I highly doubt that any of us watched every play that Lilja and Weigman were involved in last year.
Anyway, take those numbers with however many grains of salt you want, at least they come from someone watching all the plays, not just remembering a few remarkable plays.
by Offense of the 70s on Mar 16, 2010 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
really like the lack of penalties.
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or will shields' career...
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by Patrick Allen on Mar 16, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Is there any chance
we draft Okung and move Albert to lg? Waters is gone? Just wondering? Can never predict the draft so just throwing that out there.
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by BigRedChief on Mar 16, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Weird..
someone on Stampede Blue just pointed this out..we basically just traded guards without trading haha
I like our side of the trade!
But I also don’t think its a sure thing Alleman will be starting for them.
So, excuse me for the dumb question...
But, where will we put Lilja do you guys think? RG? or as depth to BW. Surely he will be in the starting lineup. But there is some importance behind this question i believe……thanks
Starting RG
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by GenericBrand on Mar 16, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Where does he fit?
He can’t play RG. He is an upgrade over Waters in pass protection, but he is a liability in the run game. Lilja also played next to a Pro Bowl C in Jeff Saturday and had Peyton Manning calling out protections — meaning he was never out of position.
I support the signing because he adds much-needed depth, but I’m not getting too excited over it.
When has he played that position?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LiljRy20.htm
According to PRF…never. Contrary to popular belief, LG and RG are different positions and require different skill sets. Lilja fits best at LG.
Brian Waters may be able to play RG.
I completely agree with this
And have been saying it everywhere, but you don’t know he can’t play there, any more than you know Waters can play there.
By your logic, Waters hasn’t played RG either.
I’m just saying, you can’t say ‘he can’t play RG’ b/c he hasn’t played there before, but then claim Waters can when he hasn’t played there either.
It will get sorted out in camp, and yes, I think Waters should be our RG, but I’m not ready to say anyone can’t play anywhere.
From Jason LaCanfora's tweets ...
KC Chiefs agree to terms with G Ryan Lilja. Lilja has been a starter with the Colts; Chiefs continue to address offensive line.
Following up: Ryan Lilja’s deal with the Chiefs is for three years
3 years...probably 6-8 mil...well done chiefs.
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
wow offense is amlost complete
we need a future center (walton rd 3?), a speedy wr#3(tate 2a?) and a te. if we get speedy wr#3 we may be ok with our te’s this yr.
Offense is coming along.
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
Berry, Cody, a C and Shipley.
I want I want I want
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berry, cody,tate,c!
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AP is based on fact not fiction. Now cut it out (=
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misdirection!
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Maurkice Pouncey*, Florida
hoss! let him give Casey a few reps off. groom him to be the guy next year.
by tenacious rdc on Mar 16, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
defense
needs nt, ilb and safety. Man if we grab Berry and Cody or weathersoon are available late first early second, than I could see Pioli making a move to go get our guy!
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
Just like that? RG?
I hope so man. I’m just saying….we as fans have an easy time saying where guys will play. I sure hope he is a competent RG. And I will salivate if we take some stud OL that is versatile with our 2A or 2B. As we need that young talent to be able to step in very soon!
Kudos Chiefs…..Keep going.
Why wouldn't we put Lilja at LG and move BW to RG.
Wouldn’t RG need to be the better run blocker? Just thinking and then Brown can learn from BW for another year.
they may not want to make waves about a position change till they get everyone at camp, who knows
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WOOOT!
WAters, WEigman, and Lilja. A+ upgrade.
Are we all content with OCall at RT?
Just curious what the consensus on that guy is.
I liked Ocall...but the numbers didnt...we will see
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ANNOUNCEMENT!! ANNOUNCEMENT!! ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Okay, I am coming forward. I am officially over not signing Boldin. I have been bitter ever since then, and have now deciden to jump back on the Pioli and Co. bandwagon!!!
Go Chiefs!
With the 5th pick in the 2010 draft the Kansas City Chiefs select Eric Berry of Tennessee!
welcome back!
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Thank you guys!
Wow! I almost got teary.
Anyway, Pioli, I have also decided I am going to give you free reign to draft whoever you think is going ot help us most. In Pioli I Trust.
With the 5th pick in the 2010 draft the Kansas City Chiefs select Eric Berry of Tennessee!
Opens mouth... Shuts mouth... Takes a breath...
Alright. But let this be a lesson to you.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I will go to my bedrrom now...
With the 5th pick in the 2010 draft the Kansas City Chiefs select Eric Berry of Tennessee!
WATERS HAS TO MOVE TO THE RG SPOT
Waters is much bigger and a better run blocker. Waters needs to move to RG, and let Lilja play LG.
I never though Lilja was a bad run blocker. He isn't great there, but the right side was a bigger issue
the concern with Lilja is a pretty nasty injury history. He’s had 3 seasons with 10+ games missed in 6 years, including never getting off the PUP in 2008.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
RG requires
A bigger better run blocker. Lilja is def more suited for the left side.
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 16, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
oh and the Colts cited a failed physical as why they cut him
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by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, there was probably enough there to fail him
but if it had been a player they had wanted to keep they’d have passed him.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
and the Colts paid his roster bonus
so Lilja wasn’t going to argue with it.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that roster bonus was guaranteed...
So they didn’t have a choice.
I haven't heard that
What I heard was that they paid it because he had been due that money last year, but agreed to majorly re-structure his deal because his knee injury wasn’t healing properly and his career might have been over. He was able to come back, so he got the money he would have been due.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought when he restructured it made that bonus guaranteed.
I could be wrong, though. But that’s typically how that works.
Fun fact fer ya
A team can say a player didn’t pass a physical even if he did.. passing is up to the team doctor.. But he did have a back injury during the super bowl so who knows
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failed physical = we just want to part ways
teams wouldnt be interested in Fargas if he truly was out of shape.
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 16, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Not content with O'Call
He’s peaked and what we got from him last year is probably close to his ceiling. We need some youth to develop.
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Hes 26
how do you know thats his ceiling? He went from the Pats practice squad, to starting for the Chiefs and giving up only 4.5 sacks. He was our most consistent lineman last season. We NEVER heard his name during a broadcast.
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 16, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, but I also don't think RT is a position of need at the moment.
Some competition somewhere down the line for him would def help, but there’s other things to address right now.
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
Youth like a 26 year old tackle that started 12 games and only allowed 4 sacks last year? And 2 false starts? And 0 holding penalties?
Yeah… where can we find a guy that young with that much potential? We better draft someone ASAP.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Perfect.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Albert | Lilja | Weigman | Waters | O’Callahan
looks pretty solid right now.
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 16, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with the ppl saying move waters to RG
Clearly, the LG protects the blind side and his strength should be pass protection (Lilja). Waters is great run blocker so he should be on the right side. The good part about this is that we are grooming Colin Brown over there at RG, so Waters can hold the position until he retires and then hopefully Brown can take over.
Awesome
Waters to RG. Weigmann at C, Now we don’t have such a huge O line need
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Didnt BW play RG when Will Shields was here
i think he could handle it
Albert – Lilja – Wiegman – Waters – O Cal
Yeah, It makes the most sense
Waters can play RG and with his size he’s more suited for it
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Shields played RG
But I defnitely think BW can handle his own there.
WELL I HOPE DUMB ANALYST STOP PROJECTING US TO TAKE TACKLE NOW
Either they’ll keep projecting us to take tackle, and say Albert should move to the right (which is retarded), or we’ll start to see more people for Berry, McClain, Williams, Bryant
O'Callahan to provide depth
I can’t figure it any other way than Albert moving to RT if we draft Okung, which means we would move O’Callahan down the depth chart.
So it would look like this: Okung, Waters, Weigmann, Lilja, Albert.
Is there another way to see it? Sound off please.
we might need one more young guy
but im comfortable going next season with albert,waters,weigman,lilja,ocalahan starting then you have a couple young swingmen in rudy c/g and ndukwe t/g plus still have young guys in colin brown and barry richardson
I cant wait to see the NEW ARROWHEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chiefs will be competing for a division title in 2010
we need to draft a young center
but not early…maybe ted larson in the 4th/5th or Eric Olsen. Right now we have Albert 25, OCally 26, and Lilja 28,
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 16, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope so
The D was in far worse shape than the O last year. Many games were lost because of the D…Dallas game comes to mind.
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 16, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
that is definitely my hope, with one early WR
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
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The big O-Line mistake
…was not using a 4th round pick to select Gaither (Ravens starter) in the supplemental draft 3 years ago. Thanks, Carl.
hey, that pick got us will franklin!
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
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11 Lineman on current roster...wih their ages:
Ocall- 27
Rudy – 27
Ndukwe-27
Lilja- 28
Albert- 25
Brown- 24
Richardson- 23
Waters- 33
Wiegman- 36
Harris- 25
Porter- 23
My point of this is, if the coaching staff can do their job. We SHOULD have a couple guys pan out from the current talent pool of that’s young. Yes we should draft a C or G early to ensure there is more raw TALENT. But damn, if we can develop a player or two for ONCE!! We should be set for a while. Waters has a couple years left. If Albert is our answer at LT…I like the odds of us developing one of these less heard of guys on our roster. IMO.
I'll tell you what
Colin Brown will be our starting RG at some point this season
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Yeah, wish he could have gotten a little more experience last year
Instead of red-shirting the season. If he had, I would tend to agree with you. I’m betting on next season for him.
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I’ve said this 10X probably.
I’d be willing to bet that C. Brown gets cut before he starts a game for the Chiefs.
The likelihood of him making the team right now is really slim. It’s amazing how high AP is on the guy b/c Pioli drafted him last year.
I will say, I hope I’m wrong and he turns into a legit NFL OL.
yep, have the staff to do it. really like our OL for the first time in awhile
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
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Im ready for august too but Im more ready for APRIL lol
Hopefully the only offensive position we draft is a couple of WR’s because now that is the biggest position of need. I would like to have a TE later if any at all mainly just because I would of loved to have Ben Watson come to KC but he carried a big price tag. There’s a couple of TE’s still on the market that can catch the ball to add a new weapon in the offense for Cassel but I just dont think it will happen. Glad to get Lilja though now we have a pretty decent line. MATT CASSEL HAS TO BE HAPPY THAT THEY ARE BUILDING HIM SOMETHNG TO WORK WITH NOW. It’d be nice to see what he could do when he isnt running for his life on every down. Im liking JD Walton as our center of the future.
really hoping for golden tate to really help out matt cassel...
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Antony McCoy and Golden Tate are the answers
McCoy is an excellent pass and run blocker, and excellent yards after the catch. Tate is a receiver who can play wideout or slot. Has speed, strong hands, and can jump with the best of them. He is explosive, excellent yards after the catch, and is a tough sob. Those two would round the offense out perfectly!
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 16, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
This guy isnt that small
5’10 1/2 is taller than Steve Smith. His height means nothing. Have you seen this kids tape? Constantly leaping and snatching the ball at its highest point. Even caught a hail marry over 3 defenders.
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 16, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
pick 2a Center Pouncey
"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "
I'd love to have Pouncey, sarge,
but I saw something about the Raiders looking at him in the 1st. It’s an Al Davis thing. I could see someone taking Dez at their spot, but a C? Hope he gets to our 2a.
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