Chiefs Had Dinner With NFL Draft Prospect Rolando McClain
by Joel Thorman on Mar 16, 2010 1:00 PM CDT
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs are keeping tabs on all possibilities for the fifth overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft. According to Chris Steuber of Scout.com, that includes Alabama LB Rolando McClain.
Per Steuber, McClain had dinner with representatives of the Chiefs on the night before his pro day on March 10th.
We've talked a little about that pro day.
McClain ran the 40-yard dash in the 4.7 range which is about where folks expected him to run. He surprisingly didn't run at the NFL Combine so it was good to see him participating.
We've also talked about some questions that have been popping up regarding McClain. A NFL scout and ESPN's Chris Mortensen have questioned his effort on tape at times.
This dinner doesn't mean the Chiefs will draft McClain and it doesn't mean they won't. It just means that they're doing due diligence on all the available prospects whether that be at No. 5, 12, or 37 and beyond.
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This makes me happy :)
Im on the Rolando train and hoping we can pick him up especially if we can do it after trading down :)
I think his effort was poor because
he had a bad hamstring since october. He played through it, and he didnt let many in on the injury.
I used to be in McClain's camp
but then someone here posted a youtube video of him. He seemed to tackle high WAY to much.
thats funny
Part of his scouting report is that he has perfect tackling form and doesn’t get too high
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* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
by stagdsp on Mar 16, 2010 1:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Watch it and let me know what you think
I’m no scout but something doesn’t look right to me. He looks high or is using his arms to much or something. Maybe it’s something the coaches could fix…
Here it is...
Here is his youtube highlight tape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miJwMCgaxKo
After watching it, I stick to my initial opinions that he seems to play slow for an inside linebacker. He does do a great job of diagnosing plays and seems to be a sure tackler for the most part, but I dont see anything from him that shows he can cover sideline-to-sideline to make tackles. Unless its a guy like Patrick Willis or Jon Beason who has freakish athleticism for that position, I dont see him worthy of the 5th overall pick…maybe more like the 15-20 range.
by kc_radrh8r on Jan 11, 2010 4:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ok, so, he started for three years
How many of those games does this tape cover? About 7 minutes worth.
Not only that, but he had a hamstring injury in all three of the games highlighted.
And he look pretty good to me. Good read and react.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
Under Crennell? I don't think we would have to worry about that too much.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
He's like a lot of guys in college
That are bigger and more or just as athletic as the guy he’s tackling: He gets sloppy at times and just slings them down.
He knows how to tackle perfectly, though, and will quickly realize its his only option as a pro.
Is it just me?
When i watch his film, he just seems like he’s not going all out. Some plays he’s in the backfield, and to the RB as they hand him the ball, but other times, it seems like he’s not going 100%. I wouldn’t mind having McClain, as long as the Crones can be managed, but i wouldn’t draft him at #5.
his health is something to consider, but in a trade back scenario...hes a leader...maybe
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Per profootballtalk.com
The Don's gonna make you and offer you can't refuse.
by Haleystheman on Mar 16, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I NEED MORE PROOF
thats the only site i’ve seen about that.
Pioli is getting ready for a trade down.
Cleveland has the bank and they are getting ready to break it to get ahead of Seattle and that makes me smile.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
A team that wants to trade up for a QB
can deal with anyone. All 5 teams with top picks have said they’d deal ‘em. St.L takes Bradford. Clausen is left. Why wouldn’t someone trade with Detroit or Tampa to get ahead of the rat in DC?
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Partially because they'll have to pay him more if they trade up that far
Predictions:
This year will be better
And I don't think Shananahanan will take a QB.....
….Mike likes his run game and if they don’t have some good big boys up front that won’t happen.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
what do you mean?
Larry Johnson can run through into anyone.
You sometimes learn something everyday.
This is why you lift all them weights. Parcells
Shanahan would NEVER mislead anyone in the draft (dripping with sarcasm).
If I’m Holmgren, I don’t believe the Rat. He may go Tackle, but I wouldn’t trust him.
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Probably to discuss
how to handle not getting picked over Eric Berry… let him down easy w/ a dinner. Good thinking Pioli.
Eric Berry's #1 Fan... and #2 Fan. +14
Im on Team Berry too...
but if we trade down with the browns and pick up McClain up….thats been my second best choice for a while. I would be bum’ed but not that bum’ed ya know.
Although….consider this SwimCoach….what if we trade down with the browns….pick up some picks….the seahawks inexplicably dont take Berry….we get Berry at 7th and some picks….thats my “off the hook” dream.
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on Mar 16, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, my favorite trade down senario would be...
1) Suh
2) Okung
3) McCoy
4) Boluga
5) -—- Bradford, Thomas, Berry, and Classen all still available.
San Fran and Cleveland attempt to trade up to the Chiefs to take someone.
Seattle gets scared that they will lose out on Bradford and offers up their #14 Pick (I don’t want the 6th spot..we need MORE picks) + their Second rounder + the 3rd rounder …or Second rounder + 4th and 5th.
Seattle then picks 5th AND 6th … tey take Bradford AND Berry….. and we get to wait til 14th to pick.
At the 14 we can target McClain, Witherspoon, Iupati, Thomas, Williams, Pouncey etc etc… LOTS of good guys with mid-first round talent to choose from on both the O-Line and the D front 7. - Plus we get an additional pick at the top of the 2nd round AND either another 3rd or 4th adn 5th in a very deep draft. -- The more micks we can get the better, and if Okung, Suh and McCoy are gone in the top 4 there is no one that can help up on either side of the line that is worth the #5 or #6 overall. -
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stupid strike through...ignore it.. it's not supposed to be scratched out
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Uhh, I know it's St Patty's day, but
The more micks we can get the better,
you know this is a derogatory term right? Even though you are advocating FOR them. OK, I’m confused.
;-)
You sometimes learn something everyday.
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I think he meant "picks" ... you know, like nose picks ...
… hey, it’s green!
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
we've been fedexing gates, bryants, & jack stack to berrys house every night
Tough times never last, but tough people do.
Jack Stack?
Why, to encourage a holdout?
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 16, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Berry Prefers Corky's out in Memphis...
just saying
Go Chiefs!!!!
So put a big scoop of slaw on his sandwich.
They dont have Combos or Burnt Ends in Memphis. They don’t have that delicious Gates sausage in Memphis either.
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don't hate the messenger
Berry just ain’t down with KC BBQ
Go Chiefs!!!!
Oh yeah
The Ro’ Fan Club likes this….
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
aha! so NOW we know the TRUTH of the matter ...
Flowers and Berry working out together was a clever ploy to make everyone else think we were interested in Berry, when all along we REALLY want McClain …
shhhhh! don’t tell SwimCoach or KCPorkchop …
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Berry
should still be our top choice!! Our LBs would be better already with a decent NT.
our safeties would be better already with a decent ILB
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hey Nick_Keith ... you mentioned getting Berry... BECAUSE ...
Our LBs would be better already with a decent NT
… seeing as how Berry is a Safety, how does that help make our NT position better?
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hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
There's a grain of truth to the sarcasm there
I think a lot of people forget that every single move KC makes has to be evaluated with plenty of salt, because Pioli comes from a school of smokescreen specialists.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 16, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh, don't tell me what? (stumbles into something, spilling Kool Aid all over his "I heart Berry" hand made sign.)
Official Member of the "Draft Eric Berry" Fanclub
nothing, go back to sleep ... the Groundhog saw his shadow so the draft isn't for another 5 weeks
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Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
It's done.
Did you check AP’s front page?
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
That's funny because this story came in after the Lilja signing news.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Joel sometimes sets stories to post at future times.
Note the perfect 1:00 time for this post. Joel stepped away and didn’t know about Lilja until he got back.
YESSS lol
I’m a fan of both Berry and McClain so I wouldn’t be opposed to drafting either. I don’t want all you Berry fans to get mad but if you think about it in the long run safeties are easier to come by in later rounds then a star linebacker. In this years draft there will most likely be a few in the second and third round worth looking at. Chad Jones (LSU), Reshad Jones (GA), Morgan Burnett (GA Tech), Nate Allen (USF) if you look at linebackers after McClain, Spikes, Washington, Butler, Sean Lee, and Navorro Bowman, there is a HUUUGE dropoff in talent. and for those of you who say McClain isn’t that talented imagine drafting someone who isnt even as close to him talent wise But for all you Berry fans I agree that would be a great pick to have. Im just sad to see so many people getting their hopes up for something that has hardly any chance of happening (Berry) come on guys get a second favorite so you wont be cursing the chiefs season already with bad fan support when your team doesnt select the player you want.
No thank you.
Not at #5 anyways.
I’d be OK with McClain if we traded down and landed in the 12ish spot.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions
I still want Berry and Spoon.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 16, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
Between Arizona and New Orleans...
There is no way Spoon makes it out of the 1st round.
Me too
but no way Spoon makes it out of the first. Too many LB hungry teams out there. Philly, NYG, Saints to name a few. If he is though, Berry and Spoon would be the Shit!
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 16, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
RGB ... I'd go for Spoon and whasthisname ... Barry? yeah, that kid ...
… but we’d have to like, give up both second rounders to get a mid-first to do that …
{{crying cuz THAT ain’t gonna happen}}
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Right now
Berry or McClain would be awesome!
I am a McClain fan and I also want Berry.
No argument here if we get either one!!
Lets just hope Pioli will get one or the other
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Dez Bryant???
bite you tongue, young man … and back to your room!
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Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Berry, Spikes ... and Walton?
yanno, I could buy that …
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Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
same, one or the other...then I am pretty sold on golden tate,spikes,cody
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Pioli will wheel and deal
with that first pick until the last minute. Trading down and nabbing McClain or Williams would be ideal.
McClain
Is he that much better than what we can get in the second round? I know Berry is worth the pick over any other safety in the draft. But I just don’t think McClain is that much better than what we would draft with our 2b pick at LB. I am a little bias cause I really want Berry so I could be wrong but looking at value I don’t think McClain is the better one if your choosing between the two.
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I can't think of any mikes who are close to McClain, yet still likely to be around in the second round
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 16, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
It shouldn't
And I doubt he runs that slowly. While I think there’s significant downside to Spikes, it has almost nothing to do with his football play. I think his talent and skill are as good as anyone’s, and were it not for the character issue, I would think him worthy of a top-15 pick.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 16, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
He certainly vanished...
…when Urban Meyer was backed into a corner to the point that he finally had to suspend Spikes for a game for the eye-gouging incident.
Man, if there’s a team whose players I don’t want KC to take, it’s Florida. While it’s not guaranteed that a Gator is going to be a thug like Da U products were for so long, the likelihood is pretty high.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 16, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn't even a whole game
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 16, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Urban suspended him for a half-game
And then the school pulled off the little PR stunt where they announced that Spikes himself had convinced Urban to suspend him the entire game.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 16, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
yea, like that made it substantial.
The suspension was for half a game, the rest was voluntary. Plus I think it was the week they were playing miss st.
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 16, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Sean Lee out of Penn State
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by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 16, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont recall Spikes getting into much trouble in Gainesville.
That eye gouge thing is not uncommon at the bottom of the pile and is no worse than tyring to rack guys, breaking fingers, gut punching, et al. Even the good guys get dirty when the balls on the ground.
I know Spikes takes stopping the run very seriously. This kid brings the hammer with him.
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I completely disagre that Berry is worth the pick over any other safety in the draft....
Berry is at the top of a short list of about 3 guys all worth about the same.
Then there are another 3 or 4 guys that are a step lower.
This is a deep safety draft. There is talent to be had in the 2nd and 3rd rounds at safety for sure.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
and the SS types are very deep
since we do have Page at FS to start with
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by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 16, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope we trade out of #5
drop 5 spots-ish and pick him up. I’m not that enamored with Berry IMO. But we will see.
Trade down and snag McClain
would be the only thing that would out do drafting Berry at 5 in my opinion.
you mean trade down and snag Spoon. right CapsLock?
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We don't...
have to trade down because he will be available with the 2a pick. The blagosphere is hyping this guy up too much. He isn’t explosive enough to warrent a 1st round consideration. He doesn’t have the speed or playmaking ability of a Mayo, Willis, Beason, or Urlacher. If you haven’t read it yet, check out my fanpost on the over-hyped value of inside linebackers posted a few days ago. Inside linebackers ranked the least important to NFL GMs in terms of positional value besides specialist. Only 7 have been taken in the first round the last 10 years and in 4 of those drafts none were taken. GMs will be much more interested in a player like Weatherspoon in the 1st becuase he has playmaking potential.
1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and keep Dorsey
he will be a 1st round pick
1. Are they an upgrade over what we already have?
2. Do they have high football IQ?
3. Can they make a difference from Day 1?
4. Do they have a history of leadership?
5. Sign him up.
Ok...
we will see who has the last laugh on this one.
1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and keep Dorsey
by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 16, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I'll be laughing either way
If I’m right about him going in the first or if he falls and the Chiefs get him.
Hell, I’d prefer he fell so the Chiefs could get him. That would be much more satisfying for me.
Or just take him at #5 and remove all doubt.
Now look up the numbers for how many safties have been taken in the first round in the last 10 years
….and apply that same argument to taking Berry
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
I wasn't...
making an argument against Berry, I was making an argument agaisnt McClain. And safeties have a little more value since 11 have been taken in the 1st round in the last 10 years, 12 if you count Rolle. I’m saying McClain isn’t out of the Patrick Willis or Urlacher mold and will fall because of it. I think teams have him around the high 20s on their big board and a lot of teams picking there aren’t a match made in heaven for McClain. As well as the 3 teams picking ahead of us in the 2nd.
1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and keep Dorsey
by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 16, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Eric Berry = Ed Reed, 1st rounder
McClain = Bart Scott, late 1st or early 2nd rounder
Thats my logic. It might be flawed, but we will see come draft day.
1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and keep Dorsey
by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 16, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets compare their numbers, combine or pro day
Patrick Willis – forty – 4.49 vert – 39 bench – 22
Jerod Mayo – forty – 4.56 vert – 40 1/2 bench – 22
Jon Beason – forty – 4.72 vert – na bench – 19
Rolando McClain – forty – 4.68 vert – 35 bench – na
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
+1
1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and keep Dorsey
by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 16, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
we should tell the police that rolando mcclain has just stolen and ate eric berry's lunch
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