Chiefs Work Out A Left Tackle
by Joel Thorman on Mar 15, 2010 4:48 PM CDT
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs conducted a private workout with a left tackle. But, as WtexKC says, it's not a first round left tackle.
Nick McDonald, 6'5", 310 pounds, hails from Grand Valley State, a D-II school. It was a lower level but he was still an All American.
The Chiefs had a private workout with him last week, according to Brian VanOchten of the Grand Rapids Press.
McDonald had a private workout with the Kansas City Chiefs last week. He hopes to hear from them about a free-agent contract offer after the NFL draft.
"I worked out for the Chiefs and they told me that I helped myself. All you need is for one (scout) to like you. I'm fine with whatever happens," he said. "It's just about getting a shot."
McDonald apparently doesn't have a great shot of being drafted but Scott Pioli and Co. have surprised before. He doesn't appear to be a high-on-the-radar prospect but then again neither was Brian Waters, who was undrafted.
(H/T WtexKC)
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Ahh yes
I meant to include that Carr is also from GVS.
by Joel Thorman on Mar 15, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
He's got good size
Never hurts to keep an eye out for a developmental player or two on the line.
That don't pan out very often
But it’s still certainly worth investigating like the Chiefs have.
by Joel Thorman on Mar 15, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Be nice to see him playing against tougher opponents.
But was dominant in DII.
I wouldn’t attach too much hype to the kid, but definitely someone to have in for a look-see. For all we know, though, KC, having HAD their look-see, are already looking past this kid. No guarantee they liked what they saw from up close.
Probably won't pan out
but leave no stone unturned. You never know.
Bleacher report has him at #7 for D-II NFL Draft Prospects...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/343508-first-look-top-10-d-ii-nfl-draft-prospects#page/5
They say this about him:
McDonald is a big, strong guy with a big, strong football brain. He’s played guard and O-tackle, as well a numerous special teams roles.
He was unmatched in Division II his senior year, and his versatility is exactly what NFL teams look for in late round, non-D-I players.
sounds like a nice write up
and we can always use the O-Line help.
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
Sounds like a nice prospect
Stick him on the practice squad for a year or two and see if he pans out.
Excellent slide show.
Kind of a get-acquainted with what folks think are the best DII has to offer. That 6’1’’ DB projecting to the 4th or 5th is intriguing, as are BOTH the top OT prospects, with the lower one a character pick and the higher having awesome up-side.
sweet...
I’m all for these late round /UDFA prospects…
low risk, big reward if they pan out
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
like that they're staying busy and doing their homework on even the smaller school guys that may have fallen through the cracks
I wonder where ole ryan lilja is right now
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
And this #7 DII prospect has a big football brain in his big football body.
Those kinds of tidbits are the kind I like. That higher-rated prospect at OT in the slideshow has the look of someone who just won’t get it (or won’t get SOMEthing), and be a waste. But I’d throw a late pick at McDonald, and grab the other kid in UDFA.
But then I’m more of a scattergun guy. Get a jillion fresh faces in there, and let our trainers go to work, teaching and evaluating, and be just as willing to part with a guy as to bring him in… That’s why I kinda like seeing KC continuing at the low end of the salary cap spectrum. They can pay to bring more guys in for a look, treat them all well, and just as easily send ‘em away with glowing reports of KC class, all without sellin’ the farm. Not making penny-wise choices up and down the line, because they’re servicing a plethora of overpaid players.
I'd be fine with it...
especially if he’s an undrafted free agent and we can get him. This notes the story earlier on getting developmental players as opposed to signing dinosaurs. I’d rather have an unproven CFA then an old UFA that doesnt have the same potential to be a centerpiece for years to come.
i agree on Lilja lol
wonder where he’s at lol. i wish they’d bring in more guys for meetings instead of just one (publicly anyways) its just a job interview its not like you have to sign every guy you bring in.
Pioli is in the thick of it, trying to find the diamonds in the rough.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
not sure, but in my mind and imo
LT from smaller, lesser programs = RT projects in the NFL. could be wrong. thoughts?
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
not always
but, actually, LTs from MANY colleges end up at RT in the pros…
IF they dont’ have the footwork, and the experience against good competition to start on the left side
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
Yup. For instance, Oher went from RT to LT as a rookie, only after an injury @ LT.
The one thing I don’t want to see happen at RT (although I think upgrade is well within reach) is to feel obliged to put a RT on the field, who belongs at G. But grabbing RT prospects, with G a fallback position seems to be smart.
I definitely don’t feel like the 1st round is where we oughta be looking for OT this year, although I’d be willing to BET that I’ll see someone in the 2nd round that I’ll want to see in competition with Ryan O’Callaghan. I’m not particularly fond of the idea of seeing Richardson or Ndukwe starting at T (either side), because Albert has a bad ankle for a couple weeks. This is probably a team that can upgrade immediately at RT and greatly improve their depth at tackle with a 2nd-round OT. I’d feel better with a rookie being added to the tackle mix, with O’Callaghan or the rookie as emergency left tackle, than ANYone I see on the KC roster, at this moment.
That’s why I probably wouldn’t shed a tear at a #5 LT reach, although I’m still more inclined towards the 2nd for a starting RT with good feet.
Who's our LT...
…if Albert goes down? I’m concerned about our depth. I could go to our website but I’m lazy.
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
it is Barry, at this point
that’s one of my biggest OL concerns right now…
Albert is good, O’Call is good… but if either goes down… slim pickings
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
Exactly. I just got done saying this, above.
Sorry I’ve not been patient enough to read the whole thread before commenting!
depth
LT- albert. Barrry
lg- waters
center- Weigmann, Rudy
rg-Nduwke,
rt-O’Callaghan, Barry
That’s 7 o-linemen. Missing anyone?
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
ok, so...
Put Colin Brown in the picture. That depth scares me. Those can not be the 8 players we are rollin’ with into the new season! $60 mil qb and 2 stud rb’s. We need more! Lilja and a center (walton) would reall ybe nice. i’m starting to see the light. But that roster up above is NOT the lineup for the 2010 season, Hell no.
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
I can see them getting into the top tier of RTs and Cs in this draft.
Likely scenario would be working in the rookie C (Pouncey?) behind Wiegmann, with the rookie T quickly seeing action at RT or RG. With another RT, the veteran O’Callaghan can be short-term backup to Albert, who’s probably better than B-Rich or Ndukwe.
Ndukwe can ALmost get it done at RT, imo. Not sure that more reps wouldn’t make him serviceable, but it has the odor of Sackintosh, putting the good-to-great G JUUUUST outta position at RT, because he’s the best of a bad situation.
Gotta draft at least 1 good o-line guy.
C i hope and look at G later on.
by CPT.Caveman on Mar 15, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
updated
LT- Albert, Barry
LG- Waters
C- Walton, Weigmann
RG- Lilja, Nduwke or Rudy
RT- O’Cal and ?
That’s 9. We go with 9 o-linemen?
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
maybe...
but the questions are still:
Can Barry Richardson be the “swing tackle” or does KC need an upgrade there? (prolly upgrade)
What do you do with Colin Brown and Ndukwe? (should prolly try to keep both for depth)
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
Lilja hasnt signed
And its being reported that we have stiff competition with the seahawks and the texans.
by BiiG_C on Mar 15, 2010 5:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wade Smith did
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
It speaks volumes that Smith STARTED when Albert went down, and Smith was let go.
This says there’s little or NO faith in ANY of the current rogues’ gallery at tackle.
this kid could come in as a backup,
at a fraction of the price for Ndukwe or Alleman.
fraction of the price?
those guys weren’t very expensive
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
Yep he looks like he could use some good BBQ.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
He has a crick in his back :)
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 15, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
is he doing the "mike goff" FG impression?
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
Close
He just needs to put one hand on the ground and stare at his feet.
Yeah...but we beat the donkeys like a rented mule.
As long as he can get out of that position before FG attempts
He’s better than we had last year.
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 15, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
annnnywayyys........
any neews on lilja?
"WIth the 5th pick in the 2010 NFL draft the Kansas City Chiefs select... Eric Berry Safety Tennesee... "
hoping for news!
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
So I take it we're moving Albert to his natural position?
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
The only thing more lame than mock draft's is the sarcasm font.
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 15, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
Was being facetious
Besides, that’s not what the experts say.
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
The only thing more lame than mock draft's is the sarcasm font.
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 15, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I have yet to see an expert walking the KC sideline, and those are the one's that matter
say Albert won’t make it at LT. Stop it already.
Now Atlanta, Denver & Miami will try and take him in the 7th round :)
AP is now being used as a resource for opponents trying to figure what Pioli and Co. are doing, or MISINFORMATION?
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
Good Point...
we should all get together sometime a develop a secret code language so our opponents don’t get a leg up on us.
1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and Dorsey
by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 15, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
i hope 1 and 2 of your sig line comes true
but not the third one!
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
The Enigma code is already in the works
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Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Mar 15, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
ha nice one and rec'd
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
nice, rec'd...and MESSAGE APPROVED!
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Let's talk back ups
I remember hearing such good things about Colin Brown last year, but don’t know if he even suited up. It seemed like he had great potential, but I don’t know what the issue was, considering our problems at the beginning of last season.
This is BR’s third season if I remember correctly. Has only played in 6 games. I realize they were later round choices, but I’d like to know where they both stand today. Are they serviceable as back ups? Is there still potential for one or both to become starters? Finally, how many years is a normal progression for O-Line draft picks (not counting the 1st round immediate starting guys)?
If memory serves me correctly
Being a Mizzou fan I kept an eye on Brown last year and he had a decent offseason. Was looking good in the preseason games till he hurt his knee and went on IR. So the big ?? for him is going to be is he back at 100% from the knee injury and if so can he pick up on the new blocking scheme they switched to half way thru the season.
Hoping my investment in a 2010 season ticket turns out to be worthwhile.
Brown was on IR before the season started.
Not a great sign.
hey, I look at it like we have an extra 5th round pick this year because we never got the chance to see brown...Im stoked, thats one less interior lineman
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
that we have to take-
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Free Agent wish list
NT/Gerard Warren to provide competition and possibly start over Shaun Smith(who has missed alot of games over the years).
Safety Gibril Wilson(since Sean Jones is gone) to provide veteran leadership and depth in secondary.
OLB/Joey Porter(provides better pass rush than Vrabel) or Pisa Tinoisamoa to start over Vrabel(who is getting old) and provide depth/competition
If they trade DJ (Which I hope they don’t) then get ILB/Akin Ayodele or Antonio Pierce
So get at least 2 of these guys and we are ready for the draft to fill in missing parts, which after these pickups is the following.
LT,slot WR,CB,C,Safety,TE and NT’s of future.
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