Chiefs Reportedly Hosting Ryan Lilja Today
The Kansas City Chiefs made some moves over the weekend indicating they're not content with the offensive line.
First, Casey Wiegmann was signed.
Second, Hank Fraley was scheduled in for a visit. Fraley's visit has since been canceled because he's signing with the St. Louis Rams but it demonstrates the Chiefs feel they need an upgrade at that position.
Third, Ryan Lilja is coming in for a visit today.
The Chiefs reportedly contacted Lilja last week but told they didn't want to pay top dollar, which sounds about right if you look at the moves GM Scott Pioli has made since coming to Kansas City.
On the surface, Lilja seems to fit what the Chiefs are trying to do. He's a smaller lineman (apparently as Todd Haley likes) who has starting experience and isn't part of the "A" group of available linemen.
610 Sports' Nick Wright predicts a deal is done by Wednesday.
Lilja reportedly has other visits scheduled and, to me, it would make sense for him to make those visits. He's one of the top lineman still available in the second wave of free agency so maybe someone other than the Chiefs, who are focusing on value, will overpay?
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Few guys that may help if Lilja not signed.
Guard Chester Pitts from Houston 8yr veteran 6’3" 320 would be my 1st UFA choice.
Montrae Holland G from Dallas 7yr veteran 6’2" 322 would be 2nd UFA choice.
2 Guards that are RFA’s and are good are 1st choice G/Max-Jean Gilles Philly 6’4" 355 requires us to give Philly a 3rd rd pick. 2nd RFA choice is G/David Bass San Fran 6’4" 331 requires we give up a 2nd rd pick. No real good FA OL choices other than C/Seth Mckinney.
That leaves RFA’s LT/Charlie Johnson 6’4" 305 from the Colts we can give up our 2B pick for him which I would be fine with if we have no real interest in Okung or
Jermon Bushrod RFA Saints 6-5/315 for a 2B pick.
So if we plan to go for Berry with #5 then get WR/Golden Tate or C/G Maurkice Pauncey with 2A (if a FA LB picked up) then Charlie Johnson might be a good fit for LT otherwise get LT/Tony Washington with 2B. 3rd Rd Best NT available(Thomas,Troup or Joseph).4th rd WR/Jordan Shipley.5A ILB Darryl Sharpton, 5B Myron Lewis CB/FS, 5C LeRoy Vann, KR/PR.
Used WalterFootball.com as resource.
i dont know what to think about this
I get the feeling that he wants to come back to KC considering he has already been told by pioli that they don’t want to pay top dollar. And yet he still come to work out anyway. I could be wrong though.
by chiefs8288 on Mar 15, 2010 12:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think what I'm now looking for
Is a incoming / outgoing lish each day at the end of the day because there’s just too much going on during the day to work and keep tract of it all.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
This Chiefs team is closer to a new expansion team than it is a playoff contender, your expectations should match that.
I predict the Chiefs trade down from the number 5 pick.
Gonna have to
+14 this post. If we get him it looks like Okung won’t be the pick and Berry will be. Not going for Rolle and bringing in Olinmen? I think we could get a young stud in round 2 or 3 for the line and get the berry versatile Eric Berry w/ the 5 spot.
I hope we get him.
Eric Berry's #1 Fan... and #2 Fan. +14
even if berry is off the board by 5
I look for the chiefs to try and trade back to get mcclain or the safety from texas. Drawing a blank on his name right now
by chiefs8288 on Mar 15, 2010 12:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
earl thomas
if rhymes were valiums, i'd be comfortably numb
by Chris Sembower on Mar 15, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh for Christs sake
Even on a post about Ryan Freaking Lilja someone finds a way to bring up Eric Berry.
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 15, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +10 +11 +12 +13 +15 +16 +17 +18 +19 +20
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 15, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Who?
Is that the white guy who could dunk from the free throw line?
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 15, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
no, thats
tim tebow
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 15, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships
by DT58forever on Mar 15, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Tim Tebow could dunk from the 3 point line.
Get your facts straight son.
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 15, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
without jumping
he would just float there
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 15, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Get YOUR facts straight
That’s Tom Chambers of the Phoenix Suns, Bulls vs Lakers, Sega Genesis.
He really could dunk from the 3-pt line. Didn’t make much sense…
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius
Tebow could dunk from full-court
If the court was made of water.
and on here, all those numbers dont add up to be as much at 14
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 15, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
that's how a lot of the logical posters
feel about the names okung and bulaga…heck, even the letters LT
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
by chief Stevie_k on Mar 15, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
+14
Berry well said, SwimCoach.
In FACT, notice how (besides Weigman) we’ve also already SIGNED a -
WR/Urban
RB/T. Jones, and
NT/S.Smith
I know its early but I haven’t heard of any other DB signings yet, much less visits. Not counting the Flowers/Berry one (of course)…
Official Member of the "Draft Eric Berry" Fanclub
...you had me at Berry!
by chiefsfan62 on Mar 15, 2010 1:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yes, its hard not to see berry at 1 with the lilja add, then at 2a...we should have 4 amazing options...
Tate…Pouncey..Cody…Spikes
any way you look at it, with another 2, our 3 5’s etc…I am starting to really think we may be competitive in the 8-8 range pushing a 9-7
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Pouncey will probably end up in Dallas or Indy
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 15, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry Saints or Dallas
damn Dallas im pretty sure
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 15, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets hope we don't wasye a pick on Cody
Cody is way over rated and only projected in 2nd rd because of all the teams going
to 3-4’s are driving him up from 3rd-4th rd where he belongs. The Berry bandwagon is not so bad considering how good he is but the Cody bandwagon has to derail soon I hope.
Not a great run blocker
…and the Colts are wanting to be more of a power run blocking team so he was a bad fit.
by CapsLockKey on Mar 15, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I know we are lacking good olinemen
but to me he doesn’t seem to fit what we are trying to do. I assume our offense will be centered around TJ and Charles
by groundedchevy on Mar 15, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, but Priority 1
should be protecting their investment in Cassel, which the line was doing a pretty terrible job of until later in the season. They weren’t exactly parting the Red Sea in the run game either. If it’s true the Chiefs are going to be using more zone-blocking than Lilja will probably do a better job in KC than he did in Indy.
hes a guy that has a lot of experience in a ZB scheme, hes exactly what they're trying to do.
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
I'd like to see them use him..
I say this because if he’s in there, would’nt that tip you off on “what” we are going to do?
We definately want to make this move.
Lilja fits the zone blocking scheme that we seem to be running, also, he’s 28, which means as linemen go, he’s in his prime still. He’s a hard worker, has champion experience, And, also, he’s a hometown guy. Taking Ryan Lilja will help our offensive line for years to come. While this may not be as big as signing Willie Roaf was a few years back, this could be in the same league of signing in my opinion.
by BetterRedThanDead on Mar 15, 2010 12:29 PM CDT reply actions
I think Home town and Home team.
Is going to be the deciding factor over money.
by multiplescorgasms on Mar 15, 2010 12:30 PM CDT reply actions
My gut says we sign him....
If he has a good workout. i doubt nickels and dimes get in the way of the deal. The chiefs are displaying a sense of urgency to upgrade positions of need. We continue to make moves in F.A. that will allow us to draft according to our board. I’m all for signing some older proven interior lineman….doesn’t mean we won’t draft OL in second round. But witih our first pick…..we should have a bit more flexibility.
Very Exciting friends!!
Don't let him leave.....
KC without a contract, he would sure up that section of the line at least for the next 5 to 7 years. This will also lower the need to draft a linemen in the first round so we can sign E Berry.
Please don't take this the wrong way
But I’m calling BS.
It could be that your friend is BS’ing you, if KTAR was sending out texts that this has happened, I’d be able to find it on google, and I can’t.
I hope they dont let lilja make other visits
Just offer this guy a decent contract if he passes he physical.
by Larryemcdaniel on Mar 15, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions
Lock him up...
You dont find linemen like this all the time. And in reference to this comment earlier" Oh for Christs sake…
Even on a post about Ryan Freaking Lilja someone finds a way to bring up Eric Berry."
I will see this comment and raise you a “we should trade down”. STOP IT. EVERYONE FIGHT THE URGE to post that. Of course we should trade down but until there is a rookie cap no one is trading out of the top 5 and if you think its a possibility you’re delusional. So just stop.
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep, and you weep alone.
by baldymcnostril on Mar 15, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions
How about this...
We could just stop talking about the flipping draft until it happens? Of course, if we did, most AP reader’s heads would explode.
Why not just take it to the max
and say, “NO TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING UNTIL IT HAPPENS!” Then nothing would ever get posted to this site, except actual news, and the site could be renamed to CNN: Chiefs News Network.
That’s no fun. One of the main reasons I like to come here is all the speculation and theories and all the comrade that comes out of that (See: Official Eric Berry Fan Club). It’s fun to read other people’s opinions, regardless if I share them or not, and their reasoning for it.
Official Member of the "Draft Eric Berry" Fanclub
I was kidding.
As much as I do get sick of seeing all of it, I understand it to a degree. I just feel it gets taken WAY too far, and that’s saying a lot cause I know it’s a lot worse in places other than AP. We were fortunate enough that while it’s not always followed, guidelines were put in place to tone it down some.
Cleveland traded down from the 5th spot last year
by badassz1987 on Mar 15, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
And...
Considering most every team (including the Chiefs) have been trying to trade out of the top 5 for the last 5 years, that 1/25 ratio isn’t something to hang your hat on.
It is more possible at #5 than it is at #3, but it’s still very tough.
I do find it funny how many people on AP seem to think it’s just as easy as wanting to do it and it’ll get done. Odds severely stacked against a team from moving out of top 5.
Bradford falling to #5 would probably change that, but I don’t think he gets there.
It is a 1:24 ratio...
That means that there is a possibility… an impossibility would be 0 of some outlandish number.
While the probablitity of it occuring isn’t very high… there still is a window that they can trade out of the #5 position.
Yet if you go back 10 years you have a total of 7 teams jumping into the top 5. Granted less teams are jumping around in the top 10… and much of it has to do with rookies getting paid pretty damn good. There is still a possibility.
Point is… if there is a possibility one isn’t being delusional.
Go Chiefs!!!!
I really hadn't thought about that...
I imagine that since this is an uncapped year that the likelihood would go up. The problem is finding someone that is willing to spend top 5 money. I don’t believe that Buffalo is willing to trade up as they aren’t big spenders.. The Redskins are already there… Oakland most likely won’t as they have their QB of the Future in Russel, and they don’t draft DT’s. Chicago has already spent their wad and doesn’t have a 1st round.
Maybe someone else steps up outside of the usual suspects. Usually people in the top 10 go for a top 5 prospect… it would be very unusual for someone outside of the top 10 to come into the top 5 (hasn’t occured in the past 10 years).
Go Chiefs!!!!
I never said it was impossible
I never called you delusional. I think it is only delusional if you think it will happen, or even that it is likely to happen.
I’m all for hoping we can pull it off, and it is, possible, I just don’t know if anyone should count on something so unexpected.
Then again, I do know a lot of people that talk about what they’re going to do when they win the lottery.
That is where my comment originated from this thread...
The poster commented about people being delusional if they think that it could possibly happen.
It is a possiblity and that is why people talk about it… do I expect it to happen??? Most likely not. Would I be exctatitc if it happened… hell ya!
Go Chiefs!!!!
what else is there?
Yesterday I watched the packers v bears week one game on nfln, and not just because cutler through 4 picks either.
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 15, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
ryan lilja, a superbowl winning starter...Great ZB Guard...I think we lock him up
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
It's hard to believe this is the Chiefs making moves...
..it’s like they have a direction or something. I’m not used to optimism.
+1.
And, what’s more, they’re picking up everyone about whom I’ve said, “Hey, Pioli. Go get this guy.”
Not only do we have direction, but it’s almost like I’m the one giving it!
it is nice
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
I'm thinking of taking the picture of hunt, pioli, and haley, and poorly photoshoping myself in to it
and posting it as my credentials on here.
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
ashamed of your photo with Hunt, Carl, Herm?
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
no, but I was told it was not allowed
due to its graphic nature
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by jakethesnake27 on Mar 15, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
hmm, I think we should sign him to a 3-4 year deal around 2 mil a year :)
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
HEY HEY HEY
dammit now I’m confused. this crazy ass Pioli is doing things RIGHT??? This is a shock to system. How did we make it through the last 5 years of King Carl. Well now that Scott “The Don” Pioli is making offers that people could refuse but dont. Just makes me happy. wierd.
Chiefs are going to surprise alot of people in 2010 !!!!
sign him
We have the money available… I think its worth it even if it requires a little reach… Need to protect that 60M QB
yep...I actually am pretty confident that pioli signs him by tomorrow
of course its pure opinion…it just seems to make sense
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Lilja
Young, solid, pass protecting guard, his run blocking lacks some ooomph. He’s at a reasonable price and it’s we’re not playing the Colts schedule so he could actually look better this year.
i’m staying away from that D word, or the word that rhymes with Terry – but there has to be a limit on how many rookies you have on your o-line, one shouldn’t have too many because Cassell could get killed, and you have to resign them all at once.
yeah, I would prefer Cassel is our long term guy, for that to happen, he needs a little more protection
this can do that. Of course we will draft more,look for more…and he needs a real playmaker…but still…this makes sense for both sides…I think Lilja wants to come home…lets hope
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
I would love to get Lilja for a decent price BUT....
I just hope all of these free agent signings don’t end up like last years and get cut before the season starts and then the players come back with sour grapes (ex. Amani Toomer’s comments about KC’s practice routines not being up to In his opinion " pro football standards" and Zach Thomas trying to take legal action against KC. And for those of you who don’t know there is a couple of good o-lineman left…like Montrae Holland from Dallas who appears to not be tendered but idk with the RFA deal going on but most sites say he’s UFA. I know that O-Lineman is going to be a priority in the draft, but I think I’m like everyone else in the area lol we want Berry. But to be honest I’d be just as happy with Rolando McClain at MLB because there are reports out there saying he’s projecting as mainly a weak side defender in the middle of a 3-4..which means perfect to be next to Williams or Johnson. Although I would LOVE to get Berry in the draft…Rolando McClain is a safer piece to build around. Plus Chiefs fans you KNOW the donkeys want him. and oh yeah and how is everyone feeling about not having to see that #21 chargers jersey anymore LOL
McClain
But to be honest I’d be just as happy with Rolando McClain at MLB because there are reports out there saying he’s projecting as mainly a weak side defender in the middle of a 3-4..which means perfect to be next to Williams or Johnson.
McClain projects as a STRONG side LB, to play alongside Williams/DJ
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
fair enough
predictions are all over the place this time of the year
But, Yeah, he’d be a great fit
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
Fuzzy Thurston is not signed anywhere yet
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
He's in Buffalo today
And has a physical tomorrow. We’re probably screwed, but if there is any good news (like he’s visiting another team) we won’t get it until tomorrow afternoon.
I want us to draft a top Center
and a great back-up RT/OG project back up Ciron Black 6’4" 327
"It doesn't matter what you do in Life only that you do it the best you can. "
Agree
It will be nice to trade away some decent O-lineman come training camp
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 15, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Really makes you wonder what the trade with Miami was?
Alleman and Nduckwe.
Alleman in Indy and Nduckwe might be heading out soon too.
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
stop gaps
both were serviceable last season. Daddy-in-law needed a QB and we needed lineman, it was just a match made in heaven.
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
THIS JUST IN FROM JOSH LOONEY!
JoshLooney just checking, but no ink yet RT @JacinB: @JoshLooney … So, what’s the word? Have we signed Lilja yet?
wow, thanks Jacin! man!!! saw the headline I was PUMPED ...
… til I read “Nothing yet” and the letdown … oh, man … I think I’m gonna cry …
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
I've been waiting for this news since last week.
Seriously. If Pioli doesn’t pull the trigger on this, and do it soon, I’m gonna get fired. There’s only so many times my boss will overlook me staring at AP and hitting refresh for hours at a time hoping for new news.
Argh!!!!!!
If he’s healthy, he’d better not leave KC!!!!
This would be HUGE for our O-line and would really change our draft priorities, enabeling us to take players @ skill positons early and hold off on o-line until the later rounds!
An O-line of Albert, Waters, Weigman, Lilja and O’Calaghan would go a long way to help us open up this offense and solidify our offensive identity
New FA wish list now that Sean Jones signed with Buccaneers
NT/Gerard Warren to provide competition and possibly start over Shaun Smith(who has missed alot of games over the years).
Safety Gibril Wilson(since Sean Jones is gone) to provide veteran leadership and depth in secondary.
OLB/Joey Porter(provides better pass rush than Vrabel) or Pisa Tinoisamoa to start over Vrabel(who is getting old) and provide depth/competition
If they trade DJ (Which I hope they don’t) then get ILB/Akin Ayodele or Antonio Pierce
So get at least 2 of these guys and we are ready for the draft to fill in missing parts, which after these pickups is the following.
LT,slot WR,CB,C,Safety,TE and NT’s of future.

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