60/40 Split For Chiefs RBs Jamaal Charles And Thomas Jones?

either one can carry the ball, we just have to not wear Charles down. Jones is going to be serviceable for us but hopefully after 2 years JC is ready to take the rock full time and pound away.

JC needs those carries. He is a threat to go all the way on any given handoff.

Thomas Jones, I think, should just be in for short yardage, goal line, and to give JC a breather.

I would say if we carry the ball as a team 35 times it would be. JC-20 TJ-10 3rd string/FB-5

Like a Mr. Inside/Mr. Outside thing, except both can go inside or outside! I believe we have the top RB team heading into 2010.

I don’t think they will go into any game saying “We better get JC his 15-20 touches and TJ his 10-15.” I think it will go more like “Well we will start out JC on the first series and if he can get it going early then we stick with it but if he is starting slow then we put TJ in to see what he can grind out.” The great thing is that now we have the tools to make ADJUSTMENTS and change gameplans if needed.

was because he knew the offense was terrible. I think they were still learning all their passing routes and stuff and it was easier and less risky to just try to run and hop eLJ could catch some of his old magic. Also the line was terrible and every time Cassel dropped back he nearly got killed, especially early on.

I think with a better team and players Haley will open up the offense a little more.

I think Charles will get the 60%. But by all means, football is a game of who is competing. If Jones runs off the big ones and gets the yards, i wouldnt be surprised to see 80/20 Jones. I mean look what he did last year. *note: Jets OLine.

The team up of these two running backs will give defenses fits.

If JC and TJ are in the same backfield Weis needs to be creative with plays and looks. The defense would be loading up the box and Cassel could kill ’em.

The Hot man will stay in….. and the other will give him a rest…
Plus… there is nothing to says that could both be in the same back field as a option.

Charles gets most of the work between the 20s, with TJ spelling, maybe coming in for some 3rd down situations. Maybe they split carries in the redzone, with TJ getting most of the goal line carries…. maybe a 70/30 split, depending on the situation?

I dunno… That’s how I’d do it.

The reason I ask is that I feel that if we shackle him to 15 carries a game, in hopes of keeping him healthy for the future, he’ll want out of KC. He wants to be the man. He said he hopes to be the offensive player of the year. He wants carries. And using him in a 50-50 or even 60-40 type role doesn’t give him that. (last season, as a team we averaged 27 rushes per)

I hope he sees 18-22 carries every Sunday. He’s earned it. And we’ll be better off for it. Use TJ in short yardage, goal line, trick formations, and just to give JC an occasional rest. But to use TJ more than that stifles JC’s growth and ability to produce for us.

And a 18-22 carry a game usage is not going to overtax a player. That comes out to be 288-352 carries for the season. I think TJ averaged about 21 last year. (331 carries)

LJ = 6’ 1" and 230 lbs(probably more after a few chicken nuggets)

TJ = 5’ 10"(standing on a ladder) and 212 lbs(soaking wet).

TJ is tough but he is no punishing runner like LJ could be in his prime. In addition, TJ is now well over 30 and will not be looking to dish out, rather he will be avoiding direct contact where possible. These two will not qualify as thunder and lightening, probably more like the quick and the almost dead. TJ was never a finesse back to begin with so he is a North South runner more than Charles. That is it. He is not like the BUS who could bang on guys with his size.

After they get used to guarding TJ & JC on swing passes, short options and runs, then we work in the play action passes, and the fake handoffs where the RB will actually stay back and pass protect while the WR burn down field and get open over the top on single coverage.

Cassel gets all day in the pocket and the WR’s have all day to get open. Booyeah.

They are purely speculation until you are looking at past game stats. I think Weis will find the best way to manage their use, both for the short term and long term.

As we noticed at the end last season, there are two ways to wear a defense down. You can pound them in inside (happen to us alot) and you can make them run sideline to sideline, which also affects how far they can straight penetrate in to the backfield before over-pursuing and getting torched by Charles in Charge. (as we did the last half of the season). I think we have the guys to do a little of both. Jones isn’t the biggest guy, but he undeniable is a very physical runner that makes a lot of contact. We are all starting to see what Charles is.

So maybe we put Charles out, make them running sideline to sideline every play, then tag in Jones to spell and beat them up a little, then go back to Charles and just start burning them up.

Meh, what do I know though…

JC needs more carries because he is explosive almost every play. The more he touches the ball the higher chance he hauls in a big run. TJ would be a good third down option and goal line runner. Of course he can still come in on some first down situations to mix it up a little. Either way, we have one hell of a backfield that I can’t wait to see in action.

Give Jones 13-15 carries, Give Charles 15-25 carries, Smith 2-6 carries.

You know how you dont drop passes or throw picks……You dont pass the football!!!
Which with a Lilja pick up that we can hear sometime before 24 comes on, might make not passing possible

put jones in as a 3rd and 2 guy, blocker, and decoy. As someone said earlier, Jones is really too small to be a thunder back for us, and that’s why I was not a fan is signing him. Also, I think the people who say Charles can’t be an every down back are just wrong. He has absolutely proven that he can be an every down back AND field kicks (though I dont endorse continuing to do this). After he busts through a hole and jets for 70 yards, he might need a breather for a few plays, and this is where Jones comes in as a rusher. Otherwise, let Charles carry the load like he’s proven he’s capable of.

I would start the game with Jones and pound it.He isnt the biggest but he is a very stong and powerful running back.Then switch to Charles at the end of a game to slash a wore down D.I love Charles as the whole package but at that size he needs to be used at the right times.If you think Charles can take 30 touches a game your crazy,that or you dont care how long he playes.I would want to make sure Charles got 10-15 touches,maybe 8 runs and 5 passes.If we get behind in a game his touches can go up as needed.