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The Chiefs Host Guard Ryan Lilja Today

Without much opposition it's safe to say that the moment that AP nation (mostly) has been waiting for is upon us. Ryan Lilja is coming back to Kansas City, and he may be here to stay. Stampede Blue and Arrowhead Pride (more so) have been following Ryan Lilja very closely since his release.

The original news break of his release here- (Arrowhead Pride) (Stampede Blue)

The original announcement of his scheduled visit here- (Arrowhead Pride)  

A quick scroll down to the comments will show you how anxious us Chiefs fans have been and how livid Colts fans have been on the release, and for good reason Lilja is a good player.

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Over on Stampede Blue, commenters tout Lilja as the second best offensive lineman in their line up, second only to Jeff Saturday. At only 28, you'd think a staple on the offensive line that just finished a Super Bowl (losing) season would have some job security. Apparently not. Lilja's release could be explained several ways. 

 

Victim of the Tight Wad GM

A lot of people will hope that he was cut for financial reasons The only defense in this argument is that Lilja, by starting every game of the 2009-2010 season, triggered a clause in his contract that upped his salary.

As said in the Indianapolis Star

By starting all 16 games in 2009, Colts LG Ryan Lilja triggered a clause that will return his future salaries to their original levels.Lilja was forced to take a pay-cut missing the 2008 season with knee problems, causing his future base salaries to drop.

However Lilja was payed his entire ($1.7 Million) roster bonus before he was cut. On top of that he made no more than an average starting guard in the NFL even with the pay raise. Making about 3.6 million a year on average, in comparison to other contracts he was getting paid about as much as Wade Smith is now with the Texans.   

 

Victim to "Square Peg, Round Hole" 

 Another argument is that Lilja simply no longer fit the profile of the type of offensive lineman the Colts are looking for. With now sophomore head coach Jim Caldwell leading the "new look Colts" and new offensive line coach Pete Metzelaars leading it's line, the commitment to getting bigger has taken it's first victim.  

Per Lilja's agent following the release;

"[The Colts] said they want to go bigger, and they let him go,’’

At 6'2" 290 lbs. His size and lack of ability to play in a power blocking scheme, ironically has been both the reason Lilja left Kansas City and why he may come back. 

 

Victim to the Injury Bug

Lilja also has had a injury bug plague him in the past with reoccurring knee problems and more recently a back problem.

Adam Caplan tweeted this regarding Lilja's release

That Explains his release. On top of his knee problems, Lilja was also nursing a back injury the week before the Super Bowl. 

But the fact that he started every game, in the longest season possible in the NFL (Super Bowl run) has got to at least be promising in regards to Lilja shaking the injury bug. 

 

Victim to the "Kill One Save Many" rule.. Or lopsided play

Over the coarse of Lilja's career he has played extremely well in pass protection but was just "serviceable" in run blocking because of his small frame, even when he played in zone blocking scheme of sorts under Tony Dungy. Regardless it's hard to properly gage Lilja's ability to run block considering the Colts run a 3:1 pass to run offense. 

Lilja, along with the rest of the Colts super bowl offensive line, were criticized by Bill Polian following the super bowl

"The offensive line, by our standards, did not have a good game," Polian said. "They were outplayed by the Saints' defensive line, I thought, pretty decisively."

If you follow you'd see he never openly criticizes players. Lilja seemed to be the sacrificial lamb the Colts will use to scare it's players into performing. Think about it, low risk of returning to your division (Jaguars, Titans, and Texans all use power blocking schemes), a big name on your O line, and small potent reasons for cutting him.

 

Either way I'm happy that he's back in Kansas City for the time being. Considering our current crop of guards, Lilja would be a significant upgrade and would not cost the Chiefs a draft pick either. And you have to believe with Lilja being from Kansas City (not a neighboring city but Kansas City itself) and having played college ball at Kansas State, has a pretty strong fan base (family included) that will be urging him to sign.

In regards to contract expectations against Lilja's demand in the open market.

Caplans tweet referenced above continues on to say 

He may have to accept a one-year offer this season to prove that he can stay healthy and effective

In my opinion all he has to do is pass a physical, and we'll have a solid interior lineman for a long time.

GO PIOLI!!

Poll
Chances Lilja is a Chief by tonight
No Chance
9 votes
Very Little
24 votes
Marginal
134 votes
He's already got a U Haul and a house set up
221 votes

388 votes | Poll has closed

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Good post Nanz. recd

I don’t necessarily think Lilya is the answer at G, but is a stopgap. Is he going to supplant Waters? Will he be able to play right guard as well as he played left? I just hope he plays to the value of the deal we give him.

by skunk420 on Mar 15, 2010 7:07 AM CDT reply actions  

the thing that makes be feel a little better....

Is that I have not seen his name attached to any other team. The thing that makes me feel a little worst is this rumor that he failed his physical. If truly a rumor then you think his agent would be out in front letting us know this isn’t true. have’nt heard much of a denial.

by paxi on Mar 15, 2010 7:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I voted definitely but . . .

The Chiefs medical team is on the hook for this one. The ONLY reason the Chiefs would not pursue him are injury concerns. IF he is healthy, this would really give Pioli the leeway on draft day to find some playmakers and make me much more comfortbale selecting Berry!

by Dallas Chief on Mar 15, 2010 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Very little and marginal are the same thing.

Official member of the "Draft Eric Berry" fan club... But I'm not changing my picture, dammit!

by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 15, 2010 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

they are not! those are two WIDELY disparate terms and it's CLEARLY OBVIOUS that you are SPLITTING HAIRS

or not

or something

maybe

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Mar 15, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah!

it was like one in the morning when I posted this.. Sorry! Guess you’ll just have to deal with my ineptness

The newest addition to the Eric Berry fanclub

by 808NaNz808 on Mar 15, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he gets signed.

Albert-Waters-Weigmann-Lilja-O’Callaghan?

Yes please, and that’s before we even draft anyone.

Official member of the "Draft Eric Berry" fan club... But I'm not changing my picture, dammit!

by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 15, 2010 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Niswanger is going to be the swing man

I see him backing up Center and the Guards.

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 15, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whoops

You forgot to move Albert to his natual position.

Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.

by BigRedChief on Mar 15, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I were my dog, I would've just peed myself in excitement.

But I’m not, so I’m just smiling broadly at the idea of that line …

(Except that our Center is once again a weaker link.)

by JacinB on Mar 15, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

One other rule

is the “We have a lot of younger talent” rule. The Colts have Mike Pollack and Steve Justice from the 2008 draft…Pollack actually starts but Justice rides the bench and he is too good to be doing that much longer.

The studs from the 2010 draft class will be: DT Ndamukong Suh, S Eric Berry, RB C.J. Spiller, RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, WR Golden Tate, WR Mardy Gilyard, OT Charles Brown, CB Kyle Wilson and S Chad Jones

by kc_radrh8r on Mar 15, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I am all for Lilja

I think, if he signs, it should be somewhere to a 1-3 year deal.

"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley

Twitter: @jjshore

by Jason Shore on Mar 15, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Personally ...

I’m just waiting for the announcement post to hit Arrowhead Pride. Frankly, I wish they’d hurry up as I’m getting little else done.

by JacinB on Mar 15, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Probably should go back to work for awhile

This is your boss!

No, but seriously, if he was traveling here today, isn’t it more likely that we hear something either later in the day or even tomorrow?

by kcsno56 on Mar 15, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Either way ...

I’m not getting squat done until I know he’s been signed.

by JacinB on Mar 15, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol if he doesn't sign.

Official member of the "Draft Eric Berry" fan club... But I'm not changing my picture, dammit!

by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 15, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

what company do you work for?

maybe i can put in an application seeing as how if we dont sign him there is going to be a opening soon…..:)

Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....

by jrcnc on Mar 15, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

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