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Chiefs Connection Should Help In The Scouting Process

NFL agent and writer for the National Football Post Jack Bechta has an interesting story this morning. It goes over the process of a NFL scout hitting the road and scouting prospects and then delivering the information to the GM and head coach.

Bechta writes that there can potentially be communication issues when scouts are delivering their reports of a certain player.

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Scouts are actually paid to give an opinion, although many are afraid to do so. It’s typical for a regional scout to be called into the war room and asked a question about a player in front of the owner, the president, the head coach and GM. The scout must decide what information he should deliver to the power group and at what level of conviction it should be delivered. A scout knows the delivery is as important as the information, and the moment may be a defining one is his career -- for better or worse.

It's a pretty good read. I found it interesting from the Chiefs perspective because, according to Bob Gretz a few months back, Chiefs GM Scott Pioli "froze out" the scouting staff that was in place prior to his arrival.

As for Pioli being hindered by second hand scouts left to him, that's simply not true. Pioli basically froze out those scouts and personnel director Bill Kuharich in the run up and then on draft day. He arrived with his information from New England along with a scout who had been let go up there, Jim Nagy. He paid no attention to any of the work done by the '08 scouting department. I can tell you for a fact that the old group did not even have Colin Brown rated as a draftable player, but the Chiefs selected him in the fifth round.

Just from a time standpoint, that's not how an organization can operate (which is why Pioli brought in replacements). More scouts that the GM can use is more information available which seemingly would turn into a better draft.

Since then the Chiefs have brought in a few additions to the scouting department. I imagine Pioli will feel more comfortable this time around.

Whether that translates to a better draft is the unknown right now.

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I got a warning

Who do i contact to find out why i got one and give an explanation?

by Coady on Mar 14, 2010 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

The Warning Was Explained To You In The Text Box That Popped Up When You Logged In

A warning does not require any additional action…once you acknowledge it, your account becomes active again. In the case of a ban, you would contact either Chris or Joel Thorman to request reinstatement.

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by UCrawford on Mar 14, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

The proper protocol is to email Joel and Chris constantly. They truly appreciate it.

Then, if you don’t get a response from them immediately, that translates into “Hurry, send more emails explaining shit to me”.

Anyway, good luck to you sir.

by krayfish on Mar 14, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

There are certainly better ways to talk to Chris and Joel. :)

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by UCrawford on Mar 14, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

like...

tracking down their phone numbers and calling them at 2 or 3 in the morning drunk just to let them know u care about them. yup, probably the best way to get the issue resolved.

by MountainManMike on Mar 14, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, I fortunately have yet to be warned

but when I logged today, the webpage was like…black, with all the links…was as simple as logging on, then the page popped up….was kind of strange…I just didnt think immediately that I had to sign in to see the normal page.

the sky is no longer falling!

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

That Was Just Some Glitch, I Think

Same kind of thing happened to me last night. Seems to be corrected now, though.

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by UCrawford on Mar 14, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah, yeah it was last night, then this morning, but the login seemed to fix said glitch

either way I am glad Im not locked out of AP lol

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

You’re good. :)

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by UCrawford on Mar 14, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

well my glitch wasnt from a ban, It just took place

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
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by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

OH SURE!! Where have I heard that one before?

YaH. Right!! I wish I had a dime for every, “it was a glitch, not me, that cussed everyone out on AP” story. Get real man. Your banned!! We all know what you did. We were there remember?

Tks for the input. Also, it was 58th and University where I lived. I worked also at the Burger King by the Lucky’s. That’s where I joined the Coast Guard at. They paid more than Burger King.

by krayfish on Mar 14, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would hope you are kidding?

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
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by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was signed out...no clue what you are talking about really.

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
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by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait what do you mean about burger king? a coast guard? huh?

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
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by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good Stuff!!

I love to read about a scouts responsiblities because that is my dream job.

One day I hope to be that guy that Pioli brings in on draft day.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 14, 2010 1:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Pressure?

Your just advising on multi million dollar decisions…lol

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 14, 2010 1:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah, the scouts I have run into the night before a game or whatnot

are always the same type of guys…they are so incredibly football oriented…I wish I knew the name of the guy but it was some scout that was with us in the 03 range, we were at the marriott in SD, and he was giving gary stills a hard time, saying how he sees this guy, number 55, who looks like a pro bowler, then he disappears…Gary was laughing but the guy was dead serious, he was reciting plays from stills’ career with the chiefs, it was wild.

I hope you get there one day, looks like a heck of a neat job, but yeah the pressure…they all look like they are on 3 hours of sleep.

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice story

What did you do exactly? And what path did you take to get there?

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 14, 2010 1:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was at the hotel in san diego, eating, they were at the table next to me

I was eating with coach gansz, family friend, so it sort of just was there

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you are at their hotel, and know someone, or after the game....you hear things, and end up involved in them

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by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is really cool

If you have any other stories I would love to hear them sometime, if you would be willing to share.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 14, 2010 1:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

sure...got to spend a lot of years around some cool teams, unfortunately thats over

my access is now UCLA, which doesnt really count.

but definitely, will share what I can remember, was fun while it lasted!

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stills might've been pretty good as a pure rush OLB.

Chiefs wanted their LBs to play like safeties in coverage and they wanted ’tweeners at DE. Stills would get run over.

by hmills110 on Mar 14, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

that would be pretty awesome for u...

but i think i enjoy just sitting back and watching games too much than breaking down movement analysis on each player. i have to do MA on skiers and it can really take the joy out of it.

by MountainManMike on Mar 14, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, so its sunday, we have almost made it to Ryan Lilja/Hank Fraley Visit Day, with maybe a surprise andra davis signing?

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe

All 3 tomorrow….Signed

AP would literally blow up!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 14, 2010 1:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If all 3 signed, do you think we would then be pretty quiet till the draft?

I think they may be the last targets til someone is cut that makes sense, or a trade is made…the next step would be to trade one of our players for more mid round picks.

Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson

by SDChief on Mar 14, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

That would give us a solid guy at ILB. Also two guys that are upgrades at the Guard position. Whichever one starts the other guy provides great oline depth.

We are still lacking a solid NT. Shaun Smith is an upgrade but he is like upgrading from a tent to an outhouse. I want a mansion NT.

I would also prefer McClain or Berry in the draft. I feel either one upgrades our defense to very respectable status.

Would love to land a Gilyard or Ford in the draft.

I have faith that Pioli will do whatever it takes to make this club into a winning organization. Some of us give him grief but he usually comes through and proves us wrong.

This is one of the best FA for the Chiefs that I can ever remember.
Thomas Jones
Casey Weigman
Jerheme Urban
Shaun Smith

all guys who will contribute to our success next season.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Mar 14, 2010 1:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

as someone who has lived in a tent...

for an extended period of time, i must say that tents r much better than outhouses (never lived in one but just taking a pee in one is more than enough time spent in one for me)…but i get what u r saying. the problem with mansions is that u always have to overpay for them unless it’s a bad economy or they r fixer-uppers. shaun smith seems to be a fixer-upper. he had one pretty good season and has potential but at this point needs a lot of work.

by MountainManMike on Mar 14, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got a warning too, but I think I did cross the line.

Yeah, I had a warning yesterday morning, for a post I did Friday night. Ths post was all in fun, but it had some sexual content regarding domestic farm animals! I was actually making fun of myself. I apoligize if that offended anyone! Just a hick from Idaho that doesn’t know any better.

There once was a man from Nantucket......Nevermind.

by Racyman on Mar 14, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I think the current regime brings in people they trust and then they collaborate with 'em.

I think the old regime was more dictatorial. A scout must know his place, kind of thing.

by hmills110 on Mar 14, 2010 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

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