My Non-Mock Draft Mock Draft
I know...is it a mock draft? Is it not a mock draft? Kinda confusing but I want to more talk about a trade down option the Chiefs could and might do...It's part realism, part wishful-thinking, so bare with me. I haven't done a post like this before...well, not for quite a while. I'm doing some digging and looking at the different drafties out there that could be available to the Chiefs come draft day, so...without further adou...
The idea is trading down from the #5 spot. Everyone is making a big deal out of the Berry/Okung/McClain debate and I believe all 3 are great if not superb players, but a trade down would work better in our favor with such a deep draft this year...the more picks the better chance we can get more starters come the opening of the season.
I do need to say, first off, that I believe Branden Albert is our starting LT in 2010 and that any OT we pick up in the draft is depth and competition come training camp. With learning all new plays and the zone blocking scheme which fits his lower weight better and his play in the last 8 games of the season his type of play and the new zone blocking scheme is what Haley and Weis are going to run (given their history of using this blocking scheme) in 2010.
Now, with the draft being so deep and the need of some stellar playmakers/difference-makers on our team this is what I project we do. Trade out of the top 5 and move to around the 10th spot and pick up CB Joe Haden. Another stellar CB opposite of Flowers will help with the new pass-happy league that is springing up everywhere and give us great play from the starting gate on defense. We would trade our #5 spot for Jacksonville's #10 and their 3rd round pick.
Next we would trade our 2b pick and one of next year's later round (6th or 7th) pick to Minnesota and pick up NT Terrance Cody. Now, I know what you're thinking...big fat guy with a lazy work ethic...but from what I've been seeing of him lately and in his pro-day is that he CAN lose the weight and work hard and with a HC like Haley and a DC like Crennel working with him to fully get in shape and picking up his game he can chanllenge Smith for the starting NT spot in training camp. Watching some of his games this year (my mom is a HUGE 'bama fan) he is a beast in the middle and with some muscle build up and good coaching he can easily make the transition to the NFL and be perfect center piece for our DL.
our 2a pick would be for for SS Taylor Mays. I am going off the wall and I might have lost my sanity some...but, this is just suggestions, not something I want to put down for our team to follow like the Bible. Taylor is a great tackler, a VERY hard hitter, and can lock up our run support help while Page or maybe a FA pickup (cough-Darren Sharper-cough) could help with our FS pass-covering support. He does have some problems with pass coverage, but I believe that he can be coached up, especially with a vetran FA pickup (ala-Vrable to our OLB's) to help him learn some tips and tricks to apply to his passing game (or lack thereof).
In the 3rd round we now have 2 picks and can pick up the best C and OL available that can compete (and probably take) for a starting position in training camp. From the 4th to the end it is BPA to fill in our other needs at WR, RB, and anything else we need to be a more competative team.
With FA I can see 3 more pickups to to give some veteran help. Lilja for OL support at the OG and Darren Sharper at the S position, and ILB Andra Davis would help a lot and also give some mentoring to the young players we have now and will pick up in the draft, whoever it is we pick.
This is all just ideas I had and I wanted to see what you all think of it. Again, this is new to me and any ideas you might have on alternative players or trade ideas would be great to read. Please give me your feedback. I'd love to read it.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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well done.
You put some good thought into it and it shows. If Okung is not available I would accept your plan. Trade back with Jax makes a lot of sense. Personally though Id change Haden to Bulaga (Although I wouldnt be terribly disappointed in Haden) and 2A for Pouncy.
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
Someone explain to me
why in the hell we would draft Okung? It just doesn’t make any sense at all IMO.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Mar 12, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
need d in for first 3-4 picks
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
disagree
Bashman – Bulaga is overrated at best, Pouncey is very likely to be gone at our 2A (I would take him in a heartbeat if he was there)
trade down is unlikely … would be nice, but …
kcstevesportsfan – I’ll go with D 1st and one of our two 2nd rounders … but 2A or 2B we really need to address C and preferably NT (also D) … but we really NEED a good C (and don’t sell us out with the “you can get someone in the lower rounds” argument) … please
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i agree...
actually i think the C from nd or my baylor will be there in 3rd rd
i looked up our last good C from nd…. 2nd rd
who do u want 1st rd?’
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
depends ... at #5 I hate to say it but it could well be Berry ... Williams is a reach BUT I'm down with it if Pioli goes that way
trading down a bit (and getting extra 2nd or 3rd) would rock, but it’s not likely to happen … so many people just toss it out there like Pioli’s never thought about it … I guarantee you he’d trade down in a heartbeat if he could get a good enough deal (and he may do that, we shall see)
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i will be calm about it until i yell at tv on draftday
i am a berry fan though after seeing troy ruining pitt by not being there
i am afraid that this deep draft.. we might trade down and then we will lose ou t
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks...
I was also, and forgot to put this in the post, that I believe Colin Brown can come in and take a starting spot on the OL possibly…maybe even coached up to become our new C. It was an idea so that’s why I didn’t go for a 2nd round OL and waited until the two 3rd round spots to fill in OL. I mean, the draft is deep on OL and I was wanting to put in for some hardcore defensive guys since we’ve been working hard in FA so far on the offensive side that our D would be more targeted in the early part of the draft. I just don’t see us taking an OT in the first. I’ve heard someone say that it would be like us paying for a 1st round LG/RG in Branden Albert…but, that’s my opinion anyways… :)
There's no hope with dope...
watch the AP nazis remove their replies when pointed out!!
i personally want to see all mock drafts and info and fanposts and fanshots here so i don’t have to leave my fave site AP…
u guys are doing great!
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
I too have an addiction to Mock Drafts
I know none of them are ever close to the real draft day selections. But like any addiction, I just gotta have more! I wish I had someone next to me to tell me to stop when I’ve had too much. I count down the draft too. I wonder if teams that pick in the 20’s and 30’s have fans that do this?
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
now i should comment on post
i want berry over mays…. and do not believe he makes it to 2nd rd
haley will make all players/drafties the weight he wants them so mt cody is fine…
i agree on C in 3rd…
either the guy from baylor or nd…
fyi i lean to baylor dude since that is where i went to school… lmao…
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:39 PM CST reply actions
HOMER ALERT!
lol I agree tho steve
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
he is actually ranked there 2...
only reason for the nd is cuz of weis…. otherwise have a cath vs baptist conflct! lol
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:43 PM CST reply actions
well written, well done, well thought out and great explanations, etc etc
that said, there was a post yesterday on the same subject … ie, trading down
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/11/1368078/chiefs-should-trade-down-in-the
not knocking this post at all, ok? it’s good
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Are you AP's post Nazi?
Everytime someone posts a mock you are the first to whine and complain about it. Anytime someone makes a post similar to one we had the other day you are the first to complain about it. If you dont like them, dont read them.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Mar 12, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
yep he is AP nazis would leave you and them alone!!
also if misspelled or not in paragraphs he likes…
must work for gov!
he should read them still and get more info…. just not post his hate
he just mad if not taking OL in 1st rd…
and many other reasons…
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
I'm good with D in 1st round ... Berry, trade down for Mays or Spoon ... not high on McClain
Haden is good but I prefer S over CB … Williams is a reach at our #5 but we do need NT badly
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I agree with you that up
McClain scares me with his health problems and i would be all for Spoon if we could drop back to around 20. Great value there and we would get some real nice compensation for trading out of 5. I wouldn’t touch Mays, he seems more like an athlete than a football player and i want football players who are athletes.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
btw paratrooper ... I'm personally not cool with the term "nazi" for anything
… see, I lost about 6,000,000 cousins to them back in the early 1940’s … hope you understand
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that is my phrase
i said it b/c of folks controlling info on AP…
if you prefer another lable let me know… but if was a nazi tactic… not killing people.
big diff
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
I don't "control" anything on AP
I can barely run my own keyboard
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
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hi, Mo!
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i know u dont control it
but since u have great inputs…
there is NO reason to say where new folks should post.
except for oline in 1st rd part lmao
so are you jewish then?
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
yah, born and raised
as for input … I type a lot, so what … that said, there’s a place for everything … wasn’t slamming this post by ANY means, just pointing out (in a not ver subtle manner) that the trade-down idea is not a particularly “new” idea … no biggie
(there is a reason to point out where SOME things should be posted, however, as there are “guidelines” for ALL of us to follow, including myself)
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k
i type a lot as well..
some of us newbies can not get to of the links … so i luv reading on AP
i will read A:LL posted on AP/,,, like u do… so no reason to complain where at. or how written
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
how about cockroaches?
little fellas hard to kill will inherit the earth some day according to some….
Well im sorry that i offended you.
What happened in the 1940’s was terrible but i had multiple family members die by the hand of Nazi’s trying to save your “cousins” so I think you are being a tad sensitive. You are not the only one on AP who was affected by the Nazi’s and WW2 as a whole.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
pratrooper ... I hear ya ... just not fond of the term or the comparision
and go re-read what I said … I never said this post should not have been here … it’s a good post, very well done (and I said that earlier) … all I pointed out was that the trade-down idea was not new and had been raised yesterday … this particular post, in and of itself, was very good
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hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
I never said that you were questioning the quality of the post
I was just saying it seems like you are the first one to call somebody out on what may or may not be a mock draft of a similar post to what we have had. Im just saying if you dont like the topic of the post then dont comment.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
ohhhhh
I might hurt myself if I tried to do that
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lol fair enough.
And i do apologize for offending you and your heritage. That was not my intention at all.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Like it...
but the Rams will mess it up by taking Sam. Here comes the mock police…
i luv all mock drafts and wish the AP nazis would leave you and them alone!!
i missed how rams taking sam b mess it up…
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 12, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
one thing though ...
Trade out of the top 5 and move to around the 10th spot and pick up CB Joe Haden
don’t tell that to SwimCoach or KCPorkchop … they (and others) would see you as a heretic and hang ya from the Berry Tree
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I personally would love Haden as well and get a Safety later if that was the case.
Haden is just as much a monster in pass coverage, just not the ALL around player our boy Berry is :). Haden>Berry
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
but he's CB, yes?
don’t we have bigger need at S? Mays not good enough in a trade down scenario?
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Yea he is a CB
which is why i said his coverage skills are just as good. But as far as run support and such Berry is a monster… I would say trade down isnt a bad idea if Berry isnt available, but if he is, he is best player available at our spot. Haden is a monster, Mays, im not sold on him yet although he is very good.
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.

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