Former Broncos LB Andra Davis Could Be Intriguing For The Chiefs
by Joel Thorman on Mar 11, 2010 4:51 PM CST
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs already took a flyer on a former player under Romeo Crennel and now they could have the opportunity to look at another one.
The Denver Broncos today released LB Andra Davis.
Mike Klis of the Denver Post calls it the "most stunning transaction of the offseason" for the Broncos.
Davis, 31, spent the first seven seasons of his career in Cleveland and three of those were under the Chiefs current defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel.
It's been argued before by some credible people that the Chiefs biggest need is at inside linebacker, which happens to be the position Davis played for the Broncos in their 3-4 defense.
The Chiefs are currently sporting Corey Mays and Demorrio Williams (and DJ) as inside linebackers and folks might argue Davis would be an upgrade.
Davis was considered a key player in the Broncos defensive renaissance early in the season. He ended the season apparently exceeding expectations with 90 tackles and 3.5 sacks.
3-4 experience at a position of need and has a connection to someone on the Chiefs....see what I'm saying?
(H/T kcsno56 for the first FanShot)
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get it done, and at a good price....perfect fit for a stop gap ILB
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
I could see pioli showing a little intrest
but someone will out bid him im guessing
I
don’t think so I think davis knows romeo is here and that might be all it takes hopefully I’m all for him coming in!
I LOVE MY CHIEFS
by kcchiefsfan515 on Mar 11, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
afc west folks luv sticking to old bosses
and romeo here
get er done…
let him compete and help them other ilb run the 3-4 and prepare for drafties
by kcstevesportsfan on Mar 11, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
he needs to sign online and check arrowheadpride and see that the fans want andre davis to come stick it to the broncos
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
This makes alot of sense...
I wouldn’t go longer than a year or two but a starting LB corps of Hali-Davis-DJ-Vrabel with Williams, Belcher and Studebaker as backups isn’t bad..I assume Mays could be cut or used mostly on special teams. then they would need to draft another guy.
I would like to see them draft a young LB this year as well but have these vets groom him.
I'm gonna repeat what I said in the FanShot post....
What is the deal?
Everyone craps on Demorrio and then when Andra Davis becomes available it "OMG!!! Get him!" He had 90 tackles and 3.5 sacks…. not a HUGE improvement there. The sacks are nice but what about the 27 less tackles? I think most have been unfair to Williams.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
I like demorrio, I just think maybe we can get davis and add more depth....
plus, maybe for less money than we went and tossed at williams
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Money aside Demorrio was our most productive LB last year and everyone craps on him.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
He does nothing special.
And yes an ILB main job is just to make the tackles but really he does nothing game changing and I dont think is a game changing player. He is a very solid tackler though.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 11, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
I get what you are saying but you have to have some Demorrios on your team...
…Not everyone is a “gamebreaker”. Look at DJ, he is considered a “gamebreaker” but is inconsistant. What’s wrong with being solid? He shows up and, most of the time, does his job.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
I agree 100%
But we need at least one of our 2 ILB able to make a greater impact. that why i like a Davis/Demorrio combo with DJs big play ability and Belchers raw talent and nose for the ball rotated in.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 11, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 11, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
I would pick Andra Davis over “Duh-Slow-Mo” Williams ANYDAY! I would put him ahead of DeMorrio and have him start right off the bat. Then we’re looking at a pretty formidable LB Corps. Tamba Hali (The Pass Rusher) – Andra Davis (The Tackling Machine)- Derrick Johnson (The Football Thief) – and Mike Vrabel (The Wise One)… C’mon… There’s no place for DeMorrio.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
again... Davis would take over for MAYS, not Williams
Williams/DJ are the Weakside ILBs
Mays/Belcher are the Strongside guys, as is Davis
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
The thing is....Demorrio is not a good 3-4 size...
He is kind of out of place.
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he's not ideal, I agree
but Davis would be playing along side him or DJ, not in place of them.
So, if Demorrio is not the answer, hopefully DJ is, or they need to find a new weakside player.
the debate should only be Davis vs Belcher/Mays in this case
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
looks good on paper
but us real chiefs fans know DJ will never amount to anything. that’s why we should cut him loose
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
the Tackles stat is a misleading one...
… Demario may have tackled a lot of guys, but he tackled them after a 5-7 yard gain. He had no ability to penetrate or stuff the gaps at the line when he played run.
Tackling a lot of guys doens’t mean a whole lot when you let them all have 5 yards first. All it means is that your defense is so bad that anyone can run for 5 yards on you whenever they want to.
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a lot of that had to do with not having a NT that was able to draw the double team
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 11, 2010 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I was wondering about that.
How can so many people agree that NT is the most glaring need on our defense, but then trash the ILBs for not filling the gaps? Ray Lewis can’t fill the gaps if the NT isn’t doing his job, and I’d say sure tacklers are hard to find in the NFL. I’d hang on to one if we got him.
I think Mays suffered more than DW
Mays seems to have a knack for hitting the ballcarrier, but when he gets blocked, he’s done.
A better NT would free up Mays a bit more to do what he does best
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
I think his real problems are in coverage.
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Mar 11, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
absolutely
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
Get Him
Fills a need and lets us groom a 2nd or 3rd round LB from the draft. We can really get BPA with our first few picks
Offical member of the Eric Berry Fan Club
another guy that knows the system
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Read this
http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/3/4/778009/tales-from-the-sunnyside-a
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Mar 11, 2010 5:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions
sounds like a fit
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Like a glove
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Mar 11, 2010 5:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Davis/Demorrio starting with DJ and Belcher mixed in...
Looks like a very very solid rotation to me.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
I think the chiefs should sign davis and trade DJ for a 3rd round pick.
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
I like DJ as a passing down guy.
He’s good in coverage and good on the blitz.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 11, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
I liked him when he was in Cleveland
If Pioli/Crennel think he can help, sign him up.
No
As long as AP approves is all that matters.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Mar 11, 2010 5:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Matt
That is 100 Percent correct
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 11, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Sweet. If we got him, we wouldnt be forced to draft Brandon Spikes and we could draft a NT in the 2nd
We could draft a NT at 2a and a slot WR at 2b and of course Berry at 1.
So u got…. ROLB Hali RILB Davis LILB Johnson LOLB Vrabel
Besides Hali, we should have one of the best pass D lb cores in the league with Vrabel, Johnson, and Davis. And im sure we could pull at least 23 sacks out of them on their own.
Please pull the trigger Pioli!!!! Please!!!
I like where you are going with this but why DJ over Demorrio? How will it be different than last season?
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
Great points
Love it!!!
Andra Davis = Chiefs SB….
Sweet ’Backers of course…. ;)
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Mar 11, 2010 5:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
why does everyone always have DJ in their starting line up
did everyone forget that he saw the field for maybe 15 min all year. romeo might have something in store for DJ but we don’t know that for sure. all we know is that DJ is inconsistent and haley hate’s inconsistent. my money is on him not starting right off the bat.
Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?
Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p
hopefull thinking, of course
DJ showed some flashes as always, and I think many of us are hoping that a full year with Haley and the 3-4 will give him a chance to win his starting job back.
I think he CAN do it… the question is Will he?
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
6 mill a year??? I think Pioli can do better than that.
Fact. Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
2 years 4 million with performance bonuses
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Mar 11, 2010 5:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes!!
I am “priceline negotiator”!!’
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Mar 11, 2010 5:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Is that you Carl Peterson???
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Mar 11, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
i love DJ
And if he can learn to be more consistent I’m all for keeping him. And DW is decent but is a liability in pass coverage. Davis a better all around ilb than Williams and id rather have DJ/Davis than dj and williams or mays. I say bring davis in. Especially if they don’t think DJ will be a starter and decide to trade him.
by BiiG_C on Mar 11, 2010 5:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Andra Davis
is a very solid LB, clearly better than what we have, more disciplined and a more sure tackler if we sign him it would be the 3rd clear upgrade we have made at a position of need in FA.
GET HIM NOW!!!!!!!!
No point in even messing around here. Just go. Go get him.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 11, 2010 5:19 PM CST reply actions
Check out his stats when he was at CLE with Crennel:
Season Team G SACKS INT SOLO ASST TOT
2005 Browns 16 2 1 149 60 209
2006 Browns 14 1 2 104 25 129
2007 Browns 16 0 0 67 16 83
2008 Browns 16 0 1 90 28 118
NOW!!! RIGHT NOW!!!
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 11, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
Hahaha
I love the sense of urgency!!! Like he is about to sign his next contract right this second….until Pioli burst through knocking the door off the hinges “Not so fast Al Davis!!” “This guy is coming with ME!!!”
Go get him Pioli!!! Now Now NOW!!!!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Mar 11, 2010 5:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm half joking and half being serious.
This guy can help the Chiefs tremendously. He flowered under Crennel’s system. They need to jump on this so that other teams don’t try to poach him first.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 11, 2010 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
If they can get the guy without breaking the bank, do it ASAP.
Official Member of the "Draft Eric Berry" Fanclub
What the hell...
are they putting in the water in Denver. Lets see, they let their D-coordinatoor walk who took their defense from last to 1st during part of the year. They ran their pro bowl QB out of town and they are about to do the same with Marshall. Then, they release this guy for no apparent reason. Whatever, I’m glad. Couldn’t hurt to sign him.
1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and Dorsey
Easy answer....
Its the Don…everyone in the league has been informed only quality free agents are allowed to the Chiefs…and other teams must release the players that fit the right 53…I cant say anymore…and ya’ll…if I never come back….cheer for me at the superbowl :)
I have a feeling that 2010 will be a defining year for the Kansas City Chiefs. Do we become the 2001 Patriots or footballs version of the royals??
by Cowboynchrist on Mar 11, 2010 6:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe he's a Jedi?
“That’s not the linebacker you want in Denver.”
“You deserve to make less than Chester Taylor and be a backup, even though you were third in the league in rushing.”
Its working so far.
If we don't
plan on taking a linebacker in the first round, this would be wonderful.
Yes Mizzou and yes GL
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 11, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
One thing thats being overlooked as well.
Davis is known as one of the best/strongest leaders in the dressing room of a very difficult situation last year. All words I’ve read from Cleveland fans as well is this guy is nothing but class and good character.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
This is a signing that I'd be ok dumping some $$ into.
I’m thinking 3 years at around 20 million, 8-10 mill guaranteed. Thoughts?
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 11, 2010 5:32 PM CST reply actions
Uhhh...
I think thats a little pricey.
1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and Dorsey
by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 11, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Compared to what?
Chambers’ 15 million?
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 11, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
The guaranteed money
And yeah, I don’t think an ILB should make more than our potential #1 WR. I’m sure we will get him. I don’t think the Market will be that hot for him.
1. Suh will fall to us at 5
2. McClain will fall to us at 2a
3. The Chiefs will trade DJ and Dorsey
by I_Bleed_Red. on Mar 11, 2010 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
I just read the article above.
Get him now, please.
sign him up!
and that’ll take away intrest in drafting mcclain and more for… well you know who…
You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday
Cassel can lead us.
Interesting that we use a rotation at ILB now
Davis would fit right in.
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
It would be a great fit...
…and an upgrade….AND he’ll want to stick it to Mcdaniels twice a year. I say get it done…
Now we are getting somewhere
Sign him, 3 mill a year. Then trade DJ to Detriot
KEEP DJ
again….
besides…
Demorrio plays on the weakside, as does DJ
Davis would take the strongside LB job from Mays/Belcher
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
Yes that would be the LILB spot
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 11, 2010 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
usually :)
unless the TE is lined up on the other side
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
I thought, maybe Kalo, said we didn't flop the LB's and safeties based on the TE
maybe it was the Ends
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 11, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
And
Draft Jamar Chaney from Miss. St in the 4th.
Well
I would take the extra pick and have Chaney in there, he will be THE sleeper in this draft.
Get him Pioli! Please!
If we could get him and Ryan Lilja this offseason won’t be too bad. Even if we only get one.
Toby Gerhart: The Thunder to Jamaal Charles' Lightning.
True and Valuable Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"
(which for the most part we are currently loosing).
Another good "character" reference
Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.
Here's the link
I guess I need to learn how to use the link button.
Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.
If this happened,
we should put DJ back on the OLB. He’s more naturally suited to OLB anyway.
by BetterRedThanDead on Mar 11, 2010 7:55 PM CST reply actions
That was clever Primetime
It’s been argued before by some credible people that the Chiefs biggest need is at inside linebacker, which happens to be the position Davis played for the Broncos in their 3-4 defense.
So now that you think you’re a big shot you get to call yourself “credible”? ;)
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
I got excited about hearing of Shaun Smiths signing but when Gerard Warren was released today I decided to compare their numbers.
In the 6 years he has been in the league he has started over 10 games just once. 2 career sacks! So check out his stats before getting too excited about him. My thought is to sign Gerard Warren as a player to compete with (insurance if you will), because mark my words Smith will not make it the whole season. Warren is only 31 has 32 sacks in 10 seasons and has only missed 8 games. 1st link is Smiths stats …2nd link is Warrens stats.
http://www.nfl.com/players/shaunsmith/profile?id=SMI711660
http://www.nfl.com/players/gerardwarren/profile?id=WAR639317
What would you rather have?
What would you rather have?
Kirk Morrison or LB/Andra Davis and TE/ Eric Olsen
Kirk Morrison or ILB/Larry Foote and TE/Eric Olsen
Pretty easy when put this way. I will take good 2 players over just one great.
So my point is give Chicago our 3rd rd pick and give me a top 5 TE for Cassel to throw to and a potential Pro-Bowl LB.
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