Some Unconventional Thinking

This is the worst post I’ve read. Glad you’re not in charge of the Chiefs

You can make a case for Bulaga, and although I disagree, I can understand it – but I can’t say that for anything else I read.

You prefer Spikes over McClain and DJ? and you want to trade Dorsey AND waters?

hmm….

First off IMO when you are picking in the top 5 you pick a difference maker. Balaga’s arms are too short for my liking and i think Albert is just fine where he is. Berry should be our pick because he is a rare talent and a difference maker. Teams will have to game plan around a Flowers/Berry led secondary.

Secondly Dorsey played pretty damn well at DE. If some team comes in and offeres a first for him Id probably do it as long as we could get SUH.

TJ was a great signing, you seem to be the only person I have heard that is able to find fault with it. Nuff Said.

Lastly i would trade Waters if we could get a 3rd round pick out of him. The dude is old and he started looking washed up last year IMO. Great guy i just dont think he has it in him anymore.

Pretty much disagree on all accounts.

Jones IS a good pickup
We should NOT Trade Dorsey
We Should DRAFT BERRY at number 5.
Spikes SHOULDN’T Be Our Pick. He has character issues.
We also, SHOULDN’T Draft a QB. We have Cassel and a nice backup in Croyle.

Only thing I agree with is Urban being a good pick up. Might agree with you on shopping Waters if we find replacement in draft.

Have to agree with a poster above, Glad you’re not in charge of the chiefs. These would be horrible moves. Not trying to be rude, but what were you thinking?

five straight thousand yard seasons and is costing us five million dollars over two years is too expensive? Sorry, that makes no sense at all.

Because we have a LT and by drafting one and moving the one you have you didnt just draft a LT you in turn just drafted a LG with the #5 pick in the draft.

this post was just the wrong thing to put I guess. I like the opposite look, but I find no reasoning behind any of it… way to go out on a limb…. like the longest limb ever.

I admire you coming out and speaking (typing) your mind on stuff that you know a lot of people won’t agree with. And that a lot of them will say “ARE YOU SMOKING CRACK?!?!”

:)

great post

though I’ll try to give you a reasoning rather than pompously calling your ideas dumb.

I think if you want to be truly unconventional in your thinking, then you shouldn’t discount a player because of the position he plays. In addition, the change in the league to being a predominant passing league, along with the impacts of players like Reed, Polomalu, and Wilson at the S position starts to date the idea that a S is a luxury position. I think Berry is the pick, if he’s available.

I agree that McClain isn’t the type of player that should be selected #5 overall, but I’ve heard and seen nothing to make me think Bulaga is a franchise LT. I’d rather look to a high-ceiling player like Berry over just another LT.

This is a deep draft, by all accounts, so I believe our picks in the 2, 3, and 4 rounds are definitely more important than just the one 1st pick.

I don’t think Jones exactly fits the team needs, either; but I disagree that he is over-priced. I think the price is what makes him fit here. I think a thumper like Fargas was a better compliment to Charles, but I still think Jones puts us in a better position for the price tag.

I like the Urban pick up, as well. Haley knows him and likes him. I think he’s added depth to a position that has been shallow on this team for a long time. I’d still like to see a draft pick to challenge him.

I would have to get a very high compensation to trade Dorsey, even though he’s miscast. I agree that he got bit by the scheme change, but I’d like to see him perform with a decent NT next to him and some decent LBs behind him.

I don’t think you’ll get enough for Waters to make it worth opening another hole in the line, so I probably wouldn’t do this one. I guess it never hurts to look.

and Spoon over McClain … and Mays over Berry …

and ya keep Waters … sheesh!

There is simply too much disagreement to write it all out….

I’ve never heard such B.S.

no, I’m not joking

I’m not trying to be different, i just noticed some things I happened to be in disagreement with

Jones wasn’t expensive in absolute terms, but spending that money on a position of low priority is silly to me. The money could have gone to someone who would help the team much more. maybe i’ll eat my words, we’ll see

who is better between okung and bulaga is arguable. I don’t know that needing a franchise LT is.

on trading waters and dorsey, of course you consider the compensation. I’m not going to trade the guys away for a box of corn flakes.

Worst……Post…….Ever……

 your justification for not taking mcclain or berry contradicts itself when you
1) take bulaga
and
2) want to take a LT

already have one.
and everyone who says LT LT LT loses all credibility with me. WE ALREADY HAVE ONE, FOLKS! and to not give him a full year in this system and this weight isn’t right.
furthermore, people are neglecting to realize that we switched to zone blocking. Oline experts, does that fit Albert’s skills better? how does having an aging waters blocking right next to you impact that, especially when waters has an incompetent center right next to him, and the whole line had 2.7 and cassel’s slow decision-making and lack of WR?

berry or mcclain are two guys this team needs. it doesn’t matter if they play positions that make it unconventional to pick them at number 5. jackson wasn’t a conventional pick. the title of this post is misleading.

comparing Mcclain to DJ is like saying macintrash and brian waters are the same player.
how much wrong could one be? i don’t see mcclain as athletic. instead, he is a little slower, but has great instincts, and uses his brain (unline dj). mcclain is a selfless, cerebral player. plus, he’s played in a pro-style 3-4 in college for saban.

tackle isn’t a position of need.
we do, however, need 2 safeties. that’s a pretty big need.

wr isn’t that big of need with chambers, bowe, urban, et al. yes, we should definitely pick one up, but only a fool could argue that it is a bigger need than safeties at this point, let alone that it is really a need.

we NEED a NT, LBs, 2 S, and at least 1 IOL.
it would be nice to have another receiver, nickle cornerback, and someone who is a big return threat.

i think part of the problem is that people are thinking like we’re going to be a 10-13 win team next year. look, we’re still building a foundation. we could surprise and win 9 or 10 games, but even if we do, Pioli wants a team that can at least match those numbers the next year.

LT can be gotten next season if Albert doesn’t pan out in this still rebuilding year.

addendum:
i just went and finished reading the post. it was hard to do, but i did.

and there at the end, i found something i could agree with, the end:

There you have it. The mind of a madman.

I am going to rec your post :)
Some things to ponder, just maybe too many all at once.

Maybe a Rush OLB to get tutored by Vrabel in probably his last year here in KC.
There is value in a Rush backer at that 5 spot.

Spikes in the 2nd or another ILB later would be fine I think. Angerer maybe.
A QB somewhere in this draft makes more sense to me than all the TE/WR love going on.

We could still get that Thunder running back again in the 5th round.

Trading Waters if we could get some value makes sense in the mode of the TG trade.
We could draft Guards though to take his place.

Just some of my unconventional thinking :)

…change to ‘bat shit insane’?

wh0a.

just because he go so many of you to speak out against it. Maybe that was his point. Next thing ya know, steve chiefs will be smoking cigars and drinking scotch!

when you said Urban was a better pickup than JOnes

Of course this isn’t coming from me. I read it on here I think. But here goes;

The Chiefs will not be a legitimate contender for several years to come. Several. So why would we run Charles to death over the next few years, so that right about the time our team becomes a serious threat to win the SB, he is beat up and worn out and is a shell of his former self?

That’s why they brougt in a SERIOUS threat at RB to play right now. So HE can get beat up and worn out by the time we are a serious legit threat to contend. Then we cut him and we REALLY let Charles loose. Charles needs to play enough to keep limber, but not enough to age rapidly and turn into the next LT or LJ that just can’t perform at the same high level because of all the hits they’ve taken.

Jones was brilliant. And when Charles is still a tremendous threat in 5 years from now, you’ll thank Pioli for that move.

As for Berry Read Upamtns post

The Draft.

Eric Berry should NOT be the #5 pick.


lost me at NOT. Watch him play before you post against him.

Unless you’re just making waves to see what’ll happen, I have to applaud you for thinking for yourself. If last year’s draft taught me anything, it’s that the herd mentality (all of the mock draft speculators out there) really don’t have a clue what Pioli is going to do on draft day.

My biggest disagreement with you is the Thomas Jones pickup. I didn’t personally expect it, but I’m pleased with it. If a cheap “thunder back” doesn’t get the job done, it’s going to fall on Charles’ shoulders and guys like JC don’t typically last very long as 25 cpg backs. We need a guy that is a legit threat that can share the load. Jones is pretty much a guarantee in that regard.