Chiefs Wanted Wade Smith Back
by Joel Thorman on Mar 10, 2010 5:59 PM CST
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PrintI don't mean to double post on now former Chiefs guard Wade Smith but I found this nugget interesting.
According to Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com, who also reported the Smith-to-the-Texans story, the Chiefs were interested in re-signing him.
Now, we're not NFL GMs, but I think a lot of us were wondering why the Chiefs seemingly weren't making an effort to re-sign him. This answers that question.
There are a couple of other factors at play here -- playing time and money.
After hearing about the terms of his contract, I suspect the latter played a heavy role.
Marvez reports the deal was for four-years with a total value of $12 million and $6.5 million guaranteed.
You think the Chiefs, who were rumored to have expressed interest in Ryan Lilja but at a reduced price, were interested in paying that kind of money?
My guess is not.
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Pioli and Company is looking for good deals
Wade Smith is a solid backup who can come in and start wherever if someone goes down. He is not a Pro Bowl player or even a consistent starter IMO (definitely isn’t dominant). As a backup, he doesn’t deserve that kind of money, at least not with the Chiefs.
I also wanted guys like Jarvis Green but with his contract, he would have to start, not be backup, and that is what the Chiefs need is cheaper players if they are going to be backups.
The TJ deal is a great example. His salary is very much a great deal for what he offers. He isn’t breaking the bank and will play an important role
It's a two way street in FA
and with Smith I’ve figured all along he just had his fill of KC. He obviously was looking for a new gig and by the sounds of it he was smart for doing so.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 10, 2010 6:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It's good to see that we didn't want to just let him walk
He would have been a good player for us, but the price was probably too high for a backup/ part time starter
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.
Tightwads?
So is Pioli and Co. being a bunch of tightwads? If/If not is that what they will be when it comes to Lilja? Are they just going to keep the wallet in the pocket and not fork over any money to get Lilja? If they don’t fork it over I will be upset. KC has more than enough currently. Time to spend a little Pioli.
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"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"
(which for the most part we are currently loosing).
Not that type of money on a BACKUP!
I mean calm down here man, Seriously He was serviceable at best last year, just go back and rewatch all the games. He is not worth that type of money.
by readANDgold58 on Mar 10, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
they may or may not be tight with money...but I wouldnt want them spending that on wade smith...no no no
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
I don't mean on Smith.
He wasn’t worth that much and glad we didn’t pay him that. I mean Lilja if we were to talk to him and offer him a contract. He’s gonna want some money but Pioli has been a tightwad so far, so I’m hoping he would open up a little and sign him. If we loose him like Boldin I will be seriously upset with him.
Toby Gerhart: The Thunder to Jamaal Charles' Lightning.
True and Valuable Quotes:
"Charles In Charge"
"Defense Wins Championships"
"The Battle is Won and Lost in the Trenches"
(which for the most part we are currently loosing).
on the dan patrick show, boldin said atlanta and miami were involved as well as KC...who knows about that boldin deal...was a lot of picks for a guy who will be 30
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Nate: Boldin wasn't a free agent.
We didn’t lose Boldin because Pioli was too cheap. We make a trade with Arizona for him.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Mar 11, 2010 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
I think people should really watch the Bears this season as an example of what not to do.
They really overpaid for the guys they signed, and the justify it the Bears really need to go deep into the playoffs this year. If Favre comes back to the Vikings I think there’s a good chance the Bears might not make the playoffs, but they paid huge money for free agents. And those signings will probably break them financially.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Mar 11, 2010 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
Another example
of Punt hunt/ Pocket Change Pioli sparing no expense to build a winner in KC! Wade Smith helped that O-line tremendously! He should have been paid!!!
Y’all do realize Lilja was CUT from the 32nd ranked rush O-Line in the NFL huh?
he also was on a super bowl winning line....
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
he's not a very good run blocker
but Lilja is a damn good pass blocker, I’d take him in a backup role, but not as a starter.
by mcclanahanman on Mar 10, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see it
If he was going to be considered as a starter maybe, but as a backup (albeit a versatile one) it seems a bit much.
we all more or less liked Smith, but so it goes ... good luck, Wade
now Scott … go get Llija!
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again, I point out
Wade Smith made $875k last year… that’s not bad for a backup….
over $3 million a year is serious starter money… would be top 5 on the Chiefs roster…
I would sign Lilja for $2 million a year or so… cheaper than Wade Smith, and an accomplished starter
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
good move for him…..but it makes no sense for us to pay him that kind of money . boldin wasnt worth the tag either we have talent that needs evaluating in lawrence and long and even bowe. bringing him in for 2 or 3 pruductive yrs isnt worth the contract he got. and especially not at the cost of developing talent that may be around for 7-8 yrs. If anything we need to figure what bowe is gonna do. Is he gonna step up or fall off. Chambers has shown he is a cagy vet who is in good shape and can produce .
4 years 12mil isnt that much for this guy. He is solid, versatile , and fit the zone blocking scheme well. Its my opinion that he just didnt want to play in KC, and that they offered him similar money.
He rank 23rd on profootball focus for guards.
that's pretty big money for a backup
would be higher than everyone on the Chiefs other than Cassel, Dorsey, Vrabel, Chambers and Albert, I think.
I dont’ think KC would have offered him more than 1.5 or 2 mill… but that’s pure speculation
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
I really think KC liked 875k...so stags numbers are probably correct, but I think they weren't too motivated knowing what wade wanted.
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
He definitely
got overpaid a bit, but good for him, and good luck to him. I felt he was very reliable for us, and would have liked to have gotten him back.
I liked him
but holy crap he’s not worth 3 million a year.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
will be that much more of a wow factor if they put in a low cap number post cba
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
Wow, Wade Smith got paid...
Congrats to him. But that is way more than we are willing to spend on a backup RG / “utility” lineman. I did like Smith and he played well enough to earn another contract with us, but there is no way Pioli was going to pay him that kind of money.
Best of luck to Wade.
Thing is...Wade Smith was the starter at the end of the season
He’ll probably be starting in Houston for that money.
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by giftedchiefsfan on Mar 10, 2010 6:53 PM CST reply actions
he was a "default starter"
I would think Houston would give him a shot to start…
but, I still see him as a utility guy
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
let's call Houston "KC South"
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
I like it.
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"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
by Red N Gold Beast on Mar 10, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
Holy Igotoverpayed, Batman!!!
Wow. That’s a pretty good chunka’ change for Smith.
Yeah, I woulda’ liked to have kept him…but for that???
Wade should be watching over his shoulder for the cops, because he just fucking robbed the Texans.
Seriously, though…good for him. Every single person here would have done the same thing if you were him.
Bonnie & Clyde visited the Texans first.
They said theres a man called Wade looking for some cash.
If you don’t pay him what he wants, then we’ll be back to rob your stash.
I know, I know, what I just said, sucked a big one.
Scott Pioli's star will shine in 2010.
Win or lose, the Chiefs scare the bejesus of all opponents in 2010
by ChiefsChance on Mar 10, 2010 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
I dont understand
I would not of paid smith that kind of money, but what I dont understand is what are we saving all this money for. I know they are trying to save money, but for what?
not so much about "saving"
but about spending wisely, and making the right decisions.
They will have a top 5 draft pick to sign, along with 2 2nd round picks… that’ll cost quite a bit.
AND, there could still be a few FA signings yet to come… or signings from roster cut downs
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
always good to have more money to work with
then little to no money at all. it gives KC a lot more freedom to be flexible, and, like we saw last year with Chambers, spontaneous and aggressive.
For what we would need him for...
He’s simply not worth that kind of money.
If he is to Houston…then good for him.
in the same quote where people are saying he is unlikely to sign with KC
some guy talked to his brother, who said the Chiefs called, but said they didn’t want to spend too much.
I think it’s pretty weak… I’ll wait to see if they bring him in for a visit
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
Yeah, I'm not holding my breath on a Lilja signing
Nor do I think Lilja would improve our line much.
by Nick Britt on Mar 10, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Little off topic I know...
But does anyone have ESPN insider? Mel and Todd have got a new mock draft out and I was wondering who they picked for us.
by kirkismerff on Mar 10, 2010 8:04 PM CST via mobile reply actions
How could we let a versatile lineman like that just walk out without an offer?
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
by Pollard49 on Mar 10, 2010 8:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
how would you or any of us know whether or not we made an offer
people are so quick to jump all over the front office for not bringing a guy back when….he was free to go where he wanted to go…
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
I agree
but I mean, with how bad our line was, and how good he was compared to the majority of it, apparently a good offer wasnt made or he wouldve been in KC.
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
by Pollard49 on Mar 10, 2010 8:35 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
an offer probably WAS made
but, the Chiefs werent’ willing to over pay or get in a bidding war
and, I for one, am glad they didnt.
good luck, Wade.
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB
mu guess is
the Chiefs made a pretty decent offer. the Bills then trumped that offer, but, Smith wanted to see what was up in Houston. Houston made a better offer, then, on the way to see the Cards, the Texans made a crazy retarded offer. i have a hard time believing that was the Texans FIRST and ONLY offer.
and, perhaps, that’s why KC supposedly told Lilja they didn’t want to spend much, waiting for Smith to play his hand. now that Smith is off the table, we’ll see what KC’s next move is. maybe they can take the money they were to offer Smith and combine that with what they were willing to offer Lilja and see what they can do.
But I guess youre right
it was his choice and why not make it with a playoff contending team…
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
But SDChief, im always right, remember that!
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
heh. I am just interested to see what they do next.
Scott Pioli will find a way to make NT the biggest offseason priority.
KC Will Trade Derrick Johnson
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