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Julius Peppers in Red and Gold?

 

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According to ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4899375), Julius Peppers home next year will not be the Carolina Panthers.  This leads us to rumorville for where the next landing spot would be for Julius Peppers.  Could that spot be Kansas City?  Would Pioli spend that kind of money on a player that is 30years old? 

 

My thoughts after the jump...

Star-divide

 I know there will be two large knocks that Chiefs fans will have on aquiring Julius Peppers.

1.)  Age

2.)  Cost

Clark Hunt said that the Chiefs will be active in the FA market, but was not sure how active they will be with regards to big names.  I was searching for the most recent article that Adam T did with Clark Hunt, but was not able to find it... however, I recall that there was some statement that their is a "blue chip" style player out there they are interested in.  Is that Peppers?

Why we should get Peppers:

1.  Lack of missing playing time:  Julius Peppers does not miss games.  He is not an injury guy and is going to be there on Sunday when we need him.

2.  Pass Rush: People say he's older now and is going to lose his rush.  False.  He had 10.5 sacks year and was getting doubled up all the time.

3.  3-4 Def:  Julius Peppers has made it very clear he wants to play OLB in a 3-4 Defense.  We happen to have a spot for him... opposite of Tamba Hali

4.  Romeo:  You can not tell me that Romeo couldn't cook up some serious QB pressure with Tamba and Julius out there.

 

Why we shouldn't get Peppers:

1.  Money:  I don't like this excuse either... we have plenty of it, but he does come at a high price.

2.  Attitude:  I don't really like how he is always in the news complaining about something.  Just shut up and do your job.  You get paid millions already to tackle guys... chill.

 

My conclusion is this.  Julius Peppers has more left in his tank and would instantly make the Chiefs Defense stronger.  Everyone says we need a stronger pass rusher and it does not get much better then Peppers.  I say be agressive Pioli and make your move on Peppers as soon as you can.  Do not let this one slip away... he will not be there in June for you.

 

Defense:

DE - Tyson Jackson

NT - FA/Draft (Prefer Vince Wilfork)

DE - Glenn Dorsey

OLB - Tamba Hali

ILB - Brandon Spikes

ILB - Derrick Johnson

OLB - Julius Peppers

DB - Brandon Carr

DB - Brandon Flowers

SS - Jon McGraw

FS - Eric Berry

Poll
Do you sign Julius Peppers?
Yes. At 12:01am on March 2nd.
281 votes
No.
58 votes
Wait and see if he's around in June.
35 votes

374 votes | Poll has closed

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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If he is a fit for Pioli Haley and Crennel

He is a fit for me too! Great talent!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Feb 9, 2010 11:05 AM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

not too old.

Man crush on Eric Berry.

by SwimCoach on Feb 9, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Old enough.

He doesn’t have much left, 1 or 2, maybe 3 years. We need more long term players.

"Charles In Charge"

"Defense Wins Championships"

by KC Nate on Feb 9, 2010 10:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

At 30?

how does that mean he only has 1,2 or 3 years left? that would put him at 33, where THEN I would say he has like 2-3 years left. He is not that old at all you may just think that he is because you have constantly been hearing his name because he is GOOD.

This could be like the Rodney Harrison for us. A HUGE leadership presence with still great talent. I am all for this.

by readANDgold58 on Feb 10, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No.

A lot of players wind down and don’t have much left once they hit 30, 31. Peppers doesn’t have much left. Again I see him with 3 years left of atleast average production. We need to have players who are going to be productive for a bit longer atleast.

"Charles In Charge"

"Defense Wins Championships"

by KC Nate on Feb 10, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

a lot of players?

they r called running backs.

by MountainManMike on Feb 11, 2010 12:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not even.

Just the running backs, sure they are the biggest victims, but many other non-rbs as well start to stall in the early 30s

"Charles In Charge"

"Defense Wins Championships"

by KC Nate on Feb 11, 2010 6:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Again with the FA insanity here.

Great teams are not built through free agency, just ask Dan Snyder about how well that works.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Feb 9, 2010 11:15 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

But it worked for Carl Peterson!!!

Oh wait..

So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.

by IISaiNtII on Feb 9, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly! You'd think Chiefs fans would be more wise to this shit!

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Feb 9, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Signing marquee free agents is not the same as building a team through FA.

The draft only comes along once a year. Yes, it is CRUCIAL to draft wisely, but there is nothing wrong with adding pieces through free agency. Who is the last “big name” free agent that KC brought in? Ummm, was Ty Law a free agent? I don’t remember. All I know is the 10 win Chiefs of the past 3 years have shown, you can’t win only through the draft, you need some free agency help too. Last time I checked Drew Brees was a FA, and you think NO wins the SB without him?

"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.

by craig in calgary on Feb 9, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1....we got to get out of the gutter mentality here that we've been beaten into.

Aim Higher people. No more quick fixes. Let’s draft and mix a few vets in there for good measure and get a team built for the ages, not the season.

by krayfish on Feb 9, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would argue that FA is the quick fix.

Look at the Vikings. If Farve retires (again) they are royally fucked. Bringing him in was a quick fix. In order for that move to be a success they had to win the Superbowl this year. They didn’t. The quick fix didn’t work and now they are likely stuck with the 2 QBs they feel they can’t win with — and they’ve more or less told those guys “we can’t win with you.” What are they going to do now? McNabb?

I agree with aiming higher. I agree with you about no quick fixes. Where I would disagree is how that happens. I think building a long-term winner is done primarily in the draft.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Feb 9, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Favre was the perfect FA pickup

I am not sure what you are saying but the Vikings were a playoff team that was a QB away from contending from the Superbowl. What more could they ask? Sure they didn’t win it all, but they greatly outplayed the eventual SB champions. I agree that FA’s don’t generally turn shitty teams into good ones, but they are a perfect way to turn good teams into great ones (Vikings example)

"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.

by craig in calgary on Feb 9, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I totally disagree. Favre to the Vikings is a long term nightmare for them. What do they do now?

The only way the move works for them is if they win the Superbowl, which obviously they didn’t. The threw all their eggs into one basket and that basket didn’t get them where they wanted to go. The team’s actions have said to their leftover QBs “we can’t win with you.” And now they’re stuck with those QBs. Watch and see what happens now. It will be a retread in Minnesota of the Chiefs of the 90s, brining in one has been QB from other teams after the next.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Feb 9, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can see what you are getting at but....

…if I’m running a team and I say to my new starting QB that he is the man now and he says to me that his feelings are hurt then I want him to get the hell out of my locker room and return to the owner his paychecks he made from last year as the backup. You get paid to play, if the coach says your the starter then you suit up and if the coach doesn’t think he can win with you then the coach needs to find a different QB to start.

The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far is as needed?

by BigRedChief on Feb 9, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it

We want Wilfork in FA almost have to have him.
We need an OLB if Vrabel moves on and can replace him with Peppers, no draft picks given up and we can draft an OLB too if we want. Why not make an offer on Peppers it won’t set the Chiefs back for one second if the deal is done right.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 9, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not about hurt feelings.

It’s about a coach saying to players “I have no faith in you.” And now this year the coach will have to try and win with those players. Good luck to that!

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Feb 9, 2010 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Favre to the Vikings was an excellent move for one year

And they know what they have in Jackson at QB he is a good player but he was immature bring in Favre for a year and hope that Favre shows Jackson how the QB position is played off the field… watching tape and game preparation are as important to a QB as how strong his arm is.

The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.

by ChiefsfanJon on Feb 9, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The team’s actions have said to their leftover QBs "we can’t win with you." And now they’re stuck with those QBs. Watch and see what happens now. It will be a retread in Minnesota of the Chiefs of the 90s, brining in one has been QB from other teams after the next.

I believe it was Tarvaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels’ actions that told the team, “You can’t win with us.”

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius

by ArrowSpread on Feb 9, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

okay...

So your saying don’t add anyone but through the draft. Correct?

Man crush on Eric Berry.

by SwimCoach on Feb 9, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not at all. But the draft has to be your Plan A.

FA is plan B where you fill holes. You don’t have to look further than the Washington Redskins to see an example of what happens when an idiot owner tries to build his team through free agency. They aren’t an elite team in any way. In fact they are picking ahead of us in the draft. To me the most important thing in building a quality organization is developing talent. this is done through scouting/drafting and coaching. The Chiefs just did a massive upgrade to their coaching staff (at least on paper it’s a massive upgrade).

Under Carl Peterson the Chiefs overpaid for a ton of way past their prime players.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Feb 9, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you have to do both.

Just from a numbers standpoint, it’s pretty much impossible to build a team entirely through the draft ( I Know you didn’t mean literally only the draft), you have to pick up the guys that help you out wherever you find them. You’ve provided more than enough examples why FA alone doesn’t solve the problem. Baiscally a successful team has to grab the right guys from the draft and teach them up, while keeping a sharp eye on who is available elsewhere. Having no fear getting rid of those that don’t measure up plays a part too.

by Archyrr on Feb 9, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we are pretty much in agreement.

This would be my ratio: 75% your own talent developed vs. 25% FA talent. I think the best organizations minimize the need to use free agency. If you have to plug a couple of holes that way, I think FA works best. A good example of what not to do would be the Chiefs defense of about 5 years ago when Gunther was brought back in.

This is kind of a tangent, but this is why I think coaching is so important in the NFL. If you can get the most out of your own guys, you minimize the need to go out and get somebody else’s guys.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Feb 9, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1, well said

Too much influx from FA and typically there’s no team chemistry. Build from within the system, with additions from the outside when required.

by Supersport on Feb 10, 2010 8:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Peppers has proven he can be pretty good and reliable in a 4-3 as a DE

and deserves the contract he could get as a 4-3 DE. Unfortunately the Chiefs don’t have a roster spot for a 4-3 DE…

I’d prefer to pass on Peppers.

So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.

by IISaiNtII on Feb 9, 2010 11:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

What's wrong with his attitute?

I asked this question last time this was a fanpost and no one was able to answer it.
What has he ever done that would label him as a guy with a bad attitute?

He’s been asking for a long term contract now for a couple years. They tagged him 2 years in a row which is a dick move concidering he was 29 and 30. When players are in their late 20’s, thats when they get good longterm contracts and the Panthers jerked him around. He fullfilled his rookie contract without bitching about outperforming it and simply asked for a new long term contract.

Where is the bad attitude? He is a game changer, and the Chiefs need those.
Sign the man.

"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.

by craig in calgary on Feb 9, 2010 11:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agree with everything until the end

I don’t think he’s a bad attitude guy, per se. But is he going to be that guy who quits after his payday? (cough Larry Johnson Cough)

So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.

by IISaiNtII on Feb 9, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he is a bad guy.

His problem is effort. He has the talent to be the most dominant defensive player in the NFL, but he disappers for plays, quarters and even games. He doesn’t always seem to want to be out there. If you can get al of his talent out of him there is no better way to spend your money.

by saskwatch on Feb 9, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

But DT sometimes disappeared too. Maybe the other team’s scheme made him disappear

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 9, 2010 7:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

First off Craig "God Save the Queen, we mean it man"!

The deal is this. Peppers may be a game changer. I am not saying I would abhor the move if he came cheap. He is no long term investment to be sure. I am starting to lean more towards the draft than FA. I am not super excited about Peppers.

by krayfish on Feb 9, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Spikes,Berry,Peppers,Wilfork, and a new nickel or a #2 CB=top 10 defense

DE – Tyson Jackson

NT – Vince Wilfork

DE – Glenn Dorsey

OLB – Tamba Hali

ILB – Brandon Spikes

ILB – Derrick Johnson

OLB – Julius Peppers

DB – Leigh Bodden or Daunte Robinson

DB – Brandon Flowers

SS – Jarrad Page

FS – Eric Berry

by LJ27FoMVP on Feb 9, 2010 11:35 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

looks good to me.

Man crush on Eric Berry.

by SwimCoach on Feb 9, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This defense

would be incredible, although I think it’s highly unlikely we get Wilfork.

by wilson123 on Feb 9, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to contradict.

But Spikes is nice, yet i think DeMarrio Williams should never be brought of the line up. One of the only good open field tacklers on the roster

by LJ27FoMVP on Feb 9, 2010 11:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

He beat out DJ this year so I why would DJ be before him?

I like DJ, but I don’t think he will be a Chief next year. I hope I’m wrong unless it gets us some good picks.

by Helmets on Feb 9, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Take your pick?

If Wilfork or Peppers are available the Chiefs can not afford both with the CBA in effect and all of the competion for what’s available. Really my perference is Wilford. Just thinking out of the box move DJ to strong safety which can better enhance his play making abilities.

gordymule

by gordymule on Feb 9, 2010 12:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wilfork isn't a Free Agent, Peppers is

So it really isn’t really fair to say that you could pick one or the other. Wilfork will probably take a couple high picks to get.

"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.

by craig in calgary on Feb 9, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yet

is a very small word but the most important one in your sentence. it’s coming.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

Always in motion is the future.
-- Yoda

by kabrink on Feb 9, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There is absolutely no way Wilfolk walks.

Even if they are prepared to let him go they will tag and trade hime because he has value.

by saskwatch on Feb 9, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He beat out DJ...

because DJ’s contract is up. He by no means out played DJ. "OH look Derrick, you didn’t play much you must suck here is our lame contract offer.

by fishhooks on Feb 9, 2010 12:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't buy this

The usual logic is that players play better in their contract year. So, if Haley/Pioli want to win, which I believe they do, then the motivation would have been to play DJ – if he performed.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

Always in motion is the future.
-- Yoda

by kabrink on Feb 9, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My take

30 years old, wants to play a brand new system, has on/off seasons, require too much.

pass

by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 9, 2010 12:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

explain on/off season

Sack totals

2009 – 10.5
2008 – 14.5
2007 – 2.5
2006 – 13
2005 – 10.5
2004 – 11
2003 – 7
2002 – 12

Man crush on Eric Berry.

by SwimCoach on Feb 9, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Calling a player an off /on player should have more convincing stats

to justify your claim. I only see (2) single digit sack seasons – might want to ease off the throttle a little bit.

by Ninjaman on Feb 9, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Watch all of his games

One series he will be living in the backfield, next few he doesn’t get off the snap quickly nor does it seem like he really tries.

Not to mention not every player can do what Hali did last year and move from DE to OLB, being 30 years old AND asking him to switch is not smart in my mind.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 9, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

he wants to switch so he said. I assume its to just make himself more maketable though.

So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.

by IISaiNtII on Feb 9, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Check out guys like Reggie White and Bruce Smith’s sack totals after the age of 30years…. signing Peppers to a 5 year deal, he would produce BIG for us. Not everyone declines at 30 years old.

Age 30-35

Reggie White – 57 Sacks
Bruce Smith – 62 Sacks
Lawerence Taylor – 43.5 Sacks

And Reggie and Bruce kept going. Reggie had over 100 sacks after the age of 30 years old. I know, he’s elite, but Peppers is averaging the same amount of sacks in his first couple years as these guys did.

Man crush on Eric Berry.

by SwimCoach on Feb 9, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure not EVERYONE does

but 99% of them DO.

So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.

by IISaiNtII on Feb 9, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If they're RB's or DB's

Linemen as a whole have a longer shelf life.

by Ninjaman on Feb 9, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pass on Peppers

due to age and the amount of money he would need to come here. Take that $ and get 2-3 2nd tier FA’s to fill some of the many holes on this team. Build the core of the team through the draft as history shows this is the better way to building a consistent winner. Brees was a big $ FA who paid off for NO, but he is the exception and not the rule. Typically, the big $ FA’s rarely pay-off. Also, Brees was much younger than Peppers making him more worth the long-term investment.

by chief66 on Feb 9, 2010 12:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And Brees wasn't a big money FA

No team really wanted him at the time, they say NOW that Miami I believe was pondering his services, but I remember when he signed with New Orleans they were criticized because of his shoulder injury at the end of the previous season he was most likely done… now look at him. He’s Kurt Warner: Saint’s Revenge.

So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.

by IISaiNtII on Feb 9, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here is a thought...

Let other teams throw the dough at peppers and sign Dansby…He’s 28 very versatile and an elite LB…this would sure up the middle with he and Demorio…Then slide DJ to where i think he belongs OUTSIDE….DJ proved he can do this well, what he cant do is fill the hole all of the time…but he has the speed and the rushing capabilities to be a very good OLB in 3-4…maybe even draft Mcclain….
Dansby, Mcclain,Hali,DJ/Demorio/vrabel….not bad fellas

by Chieforlife8730 on Feb 9, 2010 2:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think it's McClain OR Dansby

I’d be happy with either

Hopefully DJ wins the coaches back over and plays opposite McClain/Dansby

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 9, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yep

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 9, 2010 7:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We Gotta consider

How long of a contract will he really be asking for? I think a 5yr deal wouldn’t be out of the question.

 Aside from looking at the sack totals, he would give OC’s nightmares. Could you begin to think about game planning against our front (7) if we picked up Peppers and our possible draft picks? (my money is on McCain) – It would only make everyone better for the simple fact that he would draw more double teams. I know for a fact that Jackson and Dorsey (especially) would benefit in a huge way.

by Ninjaman on Feb 9, 2010 3:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We also have to consider

that he will be tagged and traded, not just let go.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 9, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be the third tag on him.

I’m pretty sure they can’t do that, but I could be wrong.

by Archyrr on Feb 9, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree Ninja just Hali and Peppers would be a nightmare

Now add Dorsey singled up cause of the better NT ahhh a dream

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 9, 2010 7:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like every year there is one big name most fans fall in love with

and want to sell away the farm to get him. Getting Peppers wouldn’t be bad if it wouldn’t cost so much and was that EXTRA piece we needed to get over the top. Let’s face it we are not in that situation this year.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Feb 9, 2010 4:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand why

everyone is talking about his age. He is only 30 years old. If anything, we have too many 24-25 year olds on the defense and we really need someone who knows how to play defense at an NFL level like Peppers can and still isn’t learning too like all of the guys we have drafted over the last couple years.

by wilson123 on Feb 9, 2010 5:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

+1

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 9, 2010 7:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would mind it at all, but considering...

we traded away a far better player (man-beast #69) and then reached way down in the sack to draft T. Jackson….so to make a big move like getting Peppers would sorta make the Chiefs and Pioli look foolish, and Pioli dont do foolish

by Sea of RED on Feb 9, 2010 6:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't make Pioli look foolish he didn't trade JA....

That being said i don’t think he does it. Look at the LB for the Patriots in their super bowl years and they are second tier veterans that came in and were very smart and always around the ball. The sacks were because of Crennell and the hoodie calling up intricate blitzes with their personnel. New England confuses offenses with smart strong LB’ers they aren’t the Steelers who say hey our OLB’ers are blitzing every down can you stop them.

The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.

by ChiefsfanJon on Feb 9, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn Why do you have to blow up the fantasy

Yes NE does do it with no name guys :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 9, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL I knew someone would say that...

i had the line at the end of my post that said, " please keep the “carl traded Allen” comments to a minimum, but i thought that would be misunderstood as a azzhole thing to say, and i figured by saying the “Chiefs” and Pioli would probibly have me covered. Thanks for not letting me down though…I’ve only been a Chief fan for 1 year. lol

by Sea of RED on Feb 9, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Well then welcome aboard Sea of Red. Though time to join, but we’re glad to have you. Stick around.

by Archyrr on Feb 10, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL....

Thanks friend….Can you take me to your leader Kray?

by Sea of RED on Feb 11, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I love your lineup

but the problem with it is that you have two blue chip acquisitions listed there. Peppers and Wilfork. Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli seem way to conservative to even try that. I’d gladly dance a jig on the 50 yard line at half-time in my skivies if they did it though!

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Feb 9, 2010 11:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

only way i would want to get him

is if we move hali to RE and move jackson and dorsey in the middle and put him at LE.. i dont think thatll happen and if we have him in a 3-4 we can’t have 2 rushers off the end, i dont think its a good fit for us.

You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday

Cassel can lead us.

by BEEf_CHIEF on Feb 10, 2010 10:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I like the line up, but.....

SS could use improvement, or move Page to SS. or have Berry, if we get him, play SS.

We need to draft Eric Berry, no if's / and's or buts about it!!!!

by nfamous209 on Feb 14, 2010 8:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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