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Kansas City Politician Files Bill To Reverse NFL Blackout Policy

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Once again, politics are making their way into the National Football League. 

This time, it's Rep. Jason Holsman, a Kansas City Democrat, who has filed a bill that would effectively reverse the NFL's policy that non-sellouts at stadiums are blacked out from being televised in the local viewing market.

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This report first came from Steve Kraske of the Prime Buzz blog.

House Bill 1986 is likely coming into play because one Kansas City Chiefs game and three St. Louis Rams games were blacked out this season.

Holsman argues that many fans of the NFL simply can't afford the gameday experience, yet are forced to subsidize parts of the league via state and local taxes.

"It isn’t asking much of a league that benefits greatly from taxpayer subsidies to guarantee that scheduled television broadcasts of home games won’t be blacked out due to failure of the team to achieve a sellout."

"For the millions of dollars Kansas City, St. Louis and Missouri taxpayers have poured into the Chiefs and Rams, they deserve something in return."

Holsman also makes a plea for the small business around the metro. He argues that many bars and restaurants, which pay the 3/8th cent sales tax to the renovation of Arrowhead Stadium, plan entire Sundays around the Chiefs game.

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That is a very good arguement

I know I personally subsidize the stadium year after year.
Whether I can attend a game or not.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 4, 2010 8:37 PM CST reply actions  

wow I like this idea

I’d vote for this guy. Solid policy objectives.

by Ren on Feb 4, 2010 8:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

unlike most other instances of

big gov’t trying to take more control, I actually find the reasoning for this to be rational and not just a power grab.

now, i’m not sure i’d go as far as to say that every home game should be guaranteed, but perhaps a smaller percentage of ticktets sold to be considered for the blackout? or some similar workings. but he does make a good point.

"We're not losers, we just can't win!"

by chief Stevie_k on Feb 4, 2010 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

His stance is more grassroots than big government...

His point is coming from the down up… instead of the from the Federal government down. If this bill does pass it should be interesting to see how it travels from state to state.

It seems to me that blackouts don’t really benefit anybody… it punishes the team, it punishes the fans, it punishes the businesses, it punishes the networks. Get better marketing, put out a better product, and sell tickets based upon supply and demand. If people won’t buy tickets because they are too expensive then the price needs to be dropped*.

*Granted there is overhead for players, energy usage, etc.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Feb 4, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I could be wrong

But the way it was explained to me by someone with knowledge of the situation was that the team set the limit for the number of tickets that need to be sold to be considered a blackout.

Setting it too high and you won’t get many blackouts. Setting it too low and fans won’t be motivated to buy tickets….so it’s a tricky business.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 4, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually the ticket prices and parking and concessions all relate

with The product on the field of course.
I think all of those are more important to the motivation to buy tickets.
The Blackout probably not as much.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 4, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

agree

who ends up buying the remaining tickets to insure a non-blackout date? the local TV station who risks losing the ad revenue without the broadcast. I’m sure corporate made a hell of deal to sell the remaining several thousand tickets at a discount to the station so they could sell ads and give the local folks that cant afford to go a chance to see their team.

besides, the station has a history of donating the tickets to charity. Win-Win

by stenerud's roost on Feb 4, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

I know that the Chiefs tried to get those tickets out the door.
Just Times are indeed hard.
Not Haiti hard but definitely hard for us not used to giving things up.
My wife won’t part with her Cell Phone, though she has no reason to need one :(

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 4, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

lol steve

okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule reseident broncos fan for ap lol denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos fan for stanpleid bule

by j-man on Feb 4, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

The first blackout scare...
who ends up buying the remaining tickets to insure a non-blackout date?

There were 3,000 tickets remaining and they were gobbled up that week when the announcement was made.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 4, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe it is also about the League Profit Sharing

The NFL Head office gets a portion of each ticket sold, so when their are tickets left over, even if they are given to charity, the local team still has to pay the piper and give that revenue to the NFL office. So this turns out to be a substantial loss just to call it a sellout. There have been many times over the last couple of years that Peterson bought the tickets and paid the money to the league office just to keep the Chiefs on the air. I think this last year, they just got tired of losing the money and covering it up. To some degree it has to be a motivator to get people to the stadium, but as said before, it is all about the product on the field. When it is good, I can sell any of my season tickets for more than face value. The last couple of years I had trouble giving them away. Every game I could not make went to charity, as I found out the tax deduction (33%) was more than I could get for a ticket!

by Skrappy on Feb 5, 2010 1:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not usually one to support the government stepping in and telling businesses how to do their thing ...

But, he actually makes a really good point. The NFL benefits greatly from local taxpayers, both individuals and businesses, and it harms those businesses (whether bars or local broadcast outlets) when they lose money because the game is blacked out.

I’m for it.

by JacinB on Feb 4, 2010 8:41 PM CST reply actions  

This is a good point
Holsman also makes a plea for the small business around the metro. He argues that many bars and restaurants, which pay the 3/8th cent sales tax to the renovation of Arrowhead Stadium, plan entire Sundays around the Chiefs game.

Dozens, if not hundreds, of restaurants in KC make considerably more money on Sundays when the Chiefs are on TV. Go out to eat for lunch on Sunday on the bye week and it will become clear ;)

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by PVChiefsfan on Feb 4, 2010 8:55 PM CST reply actions  

Devil's Advocate

But 156 consecutive sellouts and all of a sudden there aren’t 5,000 “new buyers” who cannot afford tickets in a metro of 1,500,000 when ticket prices didn’t increase more than and inflation rate of 4% from one year to the next (and flat this year)? I mean, the guy is blaming the economy for the shortfall of tickets sold and therefore the blackout. Perhaps it’s apathy of the fans?

Guess i should include a poll of the number of season ticket holders who didn’t renew because of the Chief’s record, not because of the ticket prices.

If we were perennial playoff team, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

by stenerud's roost on Feb 4, 2010 9:08 PM CST reply actions  

Hey Nice to see you weigh in :)

Did I tell you my personal situtaion is -15% from 2007.
Those guys up their in the third deck. That would be me if I could.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 4, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm down 100% from a year ago, Steve ... I hear ya

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by upamtn on Feb 4, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I understand

Yet I have 3 other people that depend on me for pretty much all of their needs.
Food and Shelter trump a day at Arrowhead.
I sur would like to watch the Chiefs on TV since I pay Jackson County, Kansas City, and State of Missouri taxes that funded all those pretty adornments at Arrowhead. Maybe the Ire should be directed somewhat westward towards Joco!

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 4, 2010 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

You know I've walked the parking lot

and the number of KS plates (mine) vs. MO tags (yours) makes you wonder. You can’t change the location of the Truman SC now. Got to hand it to the Jackson Co taxpayers…they stood up and voted the tax in for stadium renovations. At least the income tax on revenue earned by the players and team are paid to the same place that they play, not necessarily where they live.

by stenerud's roost on Feb 4, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

It is what it is

not really a problem, but I do like the Process as far as the legislation to undo the Blackouts. One of the Fanshots talks about the Rams moving to Toronto. The State of Missouri spent a lot of money to make that stadium happen and to have the League bend MO over twice is Unacceptable. There is bound to be a political issue.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 4, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

If my memory serves, the deal the city of St. Louis gave the Rams to move there was a terrible one for the city.

Again, I may be remembering wrong, but didn’t the city start to build that horrible “dome” before they found out they weren’t getting one of the new expansion teams (that wound up being Carolina and Jax)? And they had to pay through the nose to get the Rams or face having a brand new (shitty) stadium with nobody to play in it. I live in Los Angeles and I won’t be surprised to see the Rams back here, or at least the Jags by 2011. They guy who’s building the proposed new NFL stadium in industry says there’s a 50/50 chance an NFL team is playing in LA County in 2010.

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by Rev. Slappy on Feb 4, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Its economics on every level from the Hunt's on down to the working fan

And, even though i’m not local, i believe Jackson Co residents get a few opportunities before everyone else (doesn’t count for much). Better economic times plus the team’s success will bring it back. We are on the right path.

The writing was on the wall even before Steve was down 15..that’s why CP was asked to leave the building IMO.

by stenerud's roost on Feb 4, 2010 9:29 PM CST reply actions  

It's okay

My buddy is working seasonally at Costco.
I have sympathy for him.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 4, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

good idea – worth a try

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by WarWolf on Feb 4, 2010 9:48 PM CST reply actions  

Long run a bad idea

I would be OK with this if it just lowered the restrictions on getting out of a blackout. But if they were forced to show all the local games no matter how many tickets were sold you can say good bye to the NFL in Missouri. If the teams can’t be guarantied a certain level of ticket sales before they have to show their product for less money the teams will go out of business. TV money is huge for the teams but it doesn’t make up for everything (ticket sales, parking, concessions) paid at the games.

This Idea is great for the consumer but horrible for the business of the NFL. And if there is no business there is no NFL so ultimately the fan loses out in the long run when his team moves to a more lucrative area.

by tevans96 on Feb 4, 2010 10:48 PM CST reply actions  

I don't necessarily agree...

how many people do you know that go to the game just so they can help achieve a sellout and prevent everyone else from being blacked out? Probably not a single one.

I can’t speak for other cities, but Chiefs fans go to Chiefs games to watch the Chiefs play football live… to go tailgating… to take in the awesome atmosphere that is a live home game. We had a 156 game sellout streak – that’s about 20 years of having every home game televised. If they didn’t want to pay to go, they could have stayed home and see it – but they still went.

It took 3 shitty SHITTY years to finally drive enough people away and cause a blackout. Whether this bill passes or not will not impact whether we sell out home games. Whether we get our ass in gear and start winning again will make all the difference.

by Ochophosphate on Feb 5, 2010 1:36 AM CST up reply actions  

This is an outdated procedure by the NFL, and should be amended.

These teams all were facing the possibility of a blackout this pass season… San Diego, Miami Jaguars, Lions, Raiders, Chiefs Rams and Minnesota. According to the NFL there were 4 others that were supposedly fighting off a blackout (my guess,ie just speculation, is Cincy… but since they had a winning streak that ended, Buffalo, San Fran. and Seattle). San Diego, both had winning records last year, and have been putting up pretty solid products. People just don’t want to spend the outrageous price that it is to go to a game… even if there is a possibility that the ‘their team’ could go to the Super Bowl.

Sean McManus, president of CBS Sports and CBS News, said last week that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told him that "he is not going to make any major adjustment to a rule that has lasted a long time just because of a short-term economic problem."

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Feb 5, 2010 7:02 AM CST up reply actions  

It may be outdated and there may be a need to amend it but a legislator shouldn’t be the person to pursue it.

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Feb 5, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Flaw

the Legislator lost a little credibility with me in his news interview from a conceptual point.

those small business owners to pay the 3/8 cent sales tax .

consumer’s pay the sales tax, not the businesses. They are just the middlemen. I am a business owner so i get the why, just not the way.

Likewise, ticket sales themselves generate in excess of $300,000 of sales tax revenue each home game (City, County and State)

I do agree that some relaxing of the blackout rules need re-visited by the league. But in the end, its a winning program and rabid fan base that sells out stadiums.

by stenerud's roost on Feb 5, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

The blackout rules aren’t exactly new. The city knew what the rules were when they decided on things such as tax hikes and who gets what money. I personally think the rules are stupid, but if the NFL thinks it helps them than they should be able to go for it. In the end if it hurts them that much (including relationship-wise with the people of the city) the organization and the NFL will do something about the rules on their own.

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Feb 5, 2010 2:08 AM CST reply actions  

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