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Sunday's Random Thoughts from the Combine

Today was the last official media day at the 2010 NFL Combine, but it's hardly the last day of results and, consequently, you and I both will continue to hear about players, results and analysis through Tuesday. The reason for this is every player goes through a regimen of several days of events. Each day, a new group of position players are invited in to begin the three day marathon, so Sunday is the last day that the trip begins for some players.

Today was defensive backs, so largely the players that interacting with the media today consisted of cornerbacks and safeties and the leftovers from yesterday's crop of linebackers and defensive linemen. That's a good thing considering guys like Gerald McCoy, Carlos Dunlap and Derrick Morgan were all still waiting in that group that got bumped. Today also brought Eric Berry, Taylor Mays, Chad Jones, Morgan Burnett and several others. It was the quietest day in the Media Room, since many writers had already headed home after a long weekend, but that doesn't mean the proceedings were uninteresting.

Once a group enters, they usually go straight through their medical process. This means that every team doctor gets to poke, prod, question and diagnose every player desire. It can be a short process for an obviously healthy player or an all-day exercise for a guy like Sam Bradford -- which is the reason why Bradford showed up in the Media Room a "day late" than several other quarterbacks. The day also includes interviews at night, and most athletes discuss how tired they are, usually from waking at 5:00am or so and going through the entire day. The next two days include the bench press, shuttle run, 40-yard dash and much more.

More to come after the jump:

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*Many still question why the Combine should really matter that much -- with some great insight on the topic coming from Charley Casserly, the former Texans GM and now NFL Network analyst, but it's still the one uniting event of the off-season that brings everyone in the league together under one roof. The ability to expedite the medical process alone is worth hosting the event and, besides quarterbacks with millions to lose and fragile wide receivers (read: Dez Bryant's magical hamstring that allowed him to leave without being labeled with the "refuses to work out" moniker), it's also the best place to see everyone show their stuff. The receiver drills were fascinating today, and it's easy to see why teams can become enamored with a guy who looks good, even in shorts in such a non-real world scenario.

*It's intriguing, to use a safe word, that the league parades out as many coaches and general managers as they do during the Combine. Probably 20+ individuals representing various organizations took questions from the media and the responses from every single franchise was basically the same: zero substance. Rex Ryan is funny. Brad Childress sang. Todd Haley apparently just woke up from a nap. But once they got going, they said, well, nothing at all. "We won't comment on that" was, at least, a healthy, honest response. Most of the time, they would redirect, making you wonder why you even bother.

The funniest of this was Tom Cable's Sunday press conference. Numerous questions concerning the Raiders endless string of draft busts are reasonable questions given the circumstances surrounding the millions being paid to guys like JaMarcus Russell and Darius Heyward-Bey. "Are you in contact with JaMarcus to make sure he stays in shape?" A very reasonable question from the media and it's something that merits an answer. Instead, you get some gibberish about being pleased with JaMarcus and confident in his ability. Really? I get pissed when I waste $8 on a dry burger at Applebees. I can't imagine wasting $30 million on a quarterback who can't do anything whatsoever that a quarterback should be able to do.

*In Chiefs-related perspective, it was hilarious how many people told me the stark difference between Todd Haley and Scott Pioli struck them. I totally agreed, but I figured it was just because I'm interested in all things Chiefs. But several media members said, 'How can those two be so different?' Indeed, while both answered 15 minutes worth of conversation in the predictable give-nothing-away fashion, Pioli was CEO like in his presentation and gentlemanly in his demeanor. He's charming, even as he gives nothing away.

Haley on the other hand seemed like he just pressed pause on Crash Bandicoot, rolled out of bed, and, hair disheveled, came down from his loft to answer a few questions. It was hilarious. "Is he normally like that?" "That Haley's not very presentable." "He seems like he hates humanity." All three were statements I caught and just had to laugh. It's a funny marriage. Perhaps the most telling statement: "That's the guy Pioli was waiting for?" I related it was just a press conference and that his coaching ability deserves time to prove itself. And that they were also probably right -- he probably never wanted to take that podium in the first place.

*Some of these names you're hearing as top 10 draft picks, expect them to drop out. Linemen, both offensive and defensive, will be in high demand and some of the offensive skill players -- and maybe even Jim Claussen at quarterback. But a lot of teams need desperately to fill holes on the lines and this is a good year for both. With great combine workouts and Pro Day showings, expect even names like Bruce Campbell, Trent Williams, Charles Brown, Jared Odrick and Dan Williams to move up high on draft boards -- in turn, moving names like C.J. Spiller, Arrelious Benn and others down the list a bit.

*Some quick hits on some players for you:
-Eric Berry is one of those "real deal" guys. He had several talking about his personality, had the audience laughing and carries himself as a leader.
-Even a full day later, several media members were still discussing Dez Bryant looking completely confused, lost and frail in his press conference.
-Taylor Mays's slide over the last few weeks in the perception of his play and standing in mock drafts could rebound with a linebacker/safety hybrid with a good workout this week. You just can't develop that size and speed and strength.

Well, that's all from me at the Combine. I'll have some more interviews for you tomorrow, but largely, I'm finished with my work. I'll have my surprise choice for you tomorrow afternoon about who I think the Chiefs might/should take. Until then, hope everyone had a good weekend.

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Aww man

Inquiring minds want to know!!!! Whooo is it Matt?

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by Buck'O on Feb 28, 2010 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

Great work

You’re worth your weight in gold

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by Buck'O on Feb 28, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I think I want to draft

Cam Thomas – just because of his video interview on the mothership

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Feb 28, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

*Some of these names you’re hearing as top 10 draft picks, expect them to drop out. Linemen, both offensive and defensive, will be in high demand and some of the offensive skill players — and maybe even Jim Claussen at quarterback. But a lot of teams need desperately to fill holes on the lines and this is a good year for both. With great combine workouts and Pro Day showings, expect even names like Bruce Campbell, Trent Williams, Charles Brown, Jared Odrick and Dan Williams to move up high on draft boards — in turn, moving names like C.J. Spiller, Arrelious Benn and others down the list a bit.

call me crazy, but to me you do the opposite. if the draft is deep at a position, it seems to be smarter to look at your other needs outside of those positions first….because you can always get greater talent in later rounds that eqaul (theoretically) the talent of the other positions that you get earlier. isn’t that how greater, deeper talent at certain positions work? doesn’t that mean that a guy at a deep position falls to the second or third and is just as good as a great player in a non-deep position that is drafted before? seems like doing otherwise is minimizing draft value.

"We're not losers, we just can't win!"

by chief Stevie_k on Feb 28, 2010 9:01 PM CST reply actions  

meh

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by Buck'O on Feb 28, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Only by the reasoning of taking a position that isn't the shallowest in talent

I personally want nothing to do with Bryant and his gauranteed holdout that will accompany his agent. I has a sense of entitlement to me as well.

by TonyG88 on Feb 28, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol

To be sure. I understand your point. I think when people get hung up on blindly following a philosophy, in the draft or in everyday life, no matter the circumstances, they limit themselves. This sort of thing needs to be handled on a case by case basis. Obviously we want the best possible players but why would you not make sure they fill your needs and your team philosophies. Dez Bryant = Diva and is obviously a poor fit for the Chiefs “team first” approach. I’m not much of a fan.

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by Buck'O on Feb 28, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

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"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 28, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I think when people get hung up on blindly following a philosophy, in the draft or in everyday life, no matter the circumstances, they limit themselves. This sort of thing needs to be handled on a case by case basis.

haha. so is this (your) quoted philosophy just one that you use on a case by case basis?

lol

"We're not losers, we just can't win!"

by chief Stevie_k on Mar 1, 2010 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Either way

with a wife, a daughter, a cat and a dog (both female) and over a hundred clients, all of whom effectively being my boss, I sorta have to do everything on a case by case basis. ;)

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by Buck'O on Mar 1, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

i wouldn't take dez if he was given to us. he seems like trouble

Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?

Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Mar 1, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Haley could care less about the media

Did anyone hear what Mayock said on air about Weis looking like a tent in his red Chiefs shirt? I generally like Mayock, but thought it was unprofessional to say that on National TV. I’m sure Weis enjoyed hearing it on the two T.V."s playing the NFLN broadcast behind him.

by TonyG88 on Feb 28, 2010 9:04 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

that’s pretty classless. we’ve all joked a bit about him in similar ways and we probably shouldn’t but in the end we’re just us and not on national tv

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Feb 28, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Rey-Rey wasn't supposed to fall last year

if Mays falls to 2a, do we grab him?

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Feb 28, 2010 9:26 PM CST reply actions  

depends

do we grab berry first or if we go in a different route in the first is Cody available at 2a? I think there will be a plan A, B and C at every pick.

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by Buck'O on Feb 28, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

All to true

and the options at 2a, 2b, and later are all related

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 28, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Bigtime

I’ve been trying to figure out some sort of a draftboard matrix to post to follow that logic. It’s actually a real complicated bitch. Gives one much respect for the job the pro’s do.

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by Buck'O on Feb 28, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

It is all in Pioli's brain :)

I can see the trade options as a significant wildcard.

Be true to your board whatever it might be :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 28, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

That trade wildcard is exactly the reason I haven't posted

It’s too complicated to encapsulate into a single post and I just can’t get a read on what’s even remotely possible. It’s an interesting academic problem to wrestle with though. I take it this is similar to what you’ve been doing with all of your draftek sims. ;)

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by Buck'O on Feb 28, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I wish it was the Chiefs Draft Board I was working with though:)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 28, 2010 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell we had Mays

His name was B.Pollard, so i say no to Mays.

by CPT.Caveman on Feb 28, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Great job this week Matt and rec on all the work :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 28, 2010 9:33 PM CST reply actions  

Ditto

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius

by ArrowSpread on Feb 28, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Crash Bandicoot?

did Haley time travel from 1998 as well?

by xchiefsx on Feb 28, 2010 9:35 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

the way he looks sometimes it seems he just stepped out of the Delorian with Doc Brown

I love it though. Think about it, would you rather have Haley’s personality type or The Hoodie? Belichek comes off as so robotic, and I’d rather our coach look like he just got off the futon, dusted off the pizza crust, slipped on his tevas, with socks of course, and a sweatshirt. Maybe that’s a little too casual, but I’ll give him a chance. Now if we could jut get rid of coach speak in the NFL. We need our own Ozzie Guilen type guy, and not someone who seems to be forcing it like Rex ’I’m gonna be more obnoxious than my Dad’ Ryan.

by tebunker on Mar 1, 2010 8:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Matt.

Again, thanks for all the hard work and great stories you brought us from the Combine. I have to believe that as Chiefs fans and APers specifically, our Combine experience was better than any fan in the league. You really seem to understand what it is we are interested in gaining from the event. Your player interviews especially have solidified my respect for your journalistic ability.
Now, if I could only find that dental dam…

I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.

by soybon on Feb 28, 2010 10:07 PM CST reply actions  

I pissed myself at

the dry burger at Applebees line. hahahaha

by RamX21 on Feb 28, 2010 11:16 PM CST reply actions  

Before they closed the 119th n Metcalf location...

The Backyard Burger there was shelling out hockey pucks on a bun they were so dry.

They used to be good. I don’t know what happened.

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius

by ArrowSpread on Feb 28, 2010 11:57 PM CST reply actions  

re

No offense but it seems to me at one time the combine had a purpose before it became this monstrosity of a media event.

by tenacious rdc on Mar 1, 2010 9:44 AM CST reply actions  

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