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Early Word Is That The Chiefs Like Bryan Bulaga

Russell Okung seems to be cementing himself as the No. 1 left tackle prospect in the draft. He's been impressive in his press conference and strong at the bench press.

However, there are some that feel Bryan Bulaga could end up in a Kansas City Chiefs uniform. As we mentioned the other day, Bulaga comes from Iowa, coached by Kirk Ferentz who reportedly has a good relationship with Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

"A lot of people in Indianapolis feel he belongs in a Kansas City Chiefs uniform and that wouldn't be a bad decision for general manager Scott Pioli with the fifth overall pick," said Pat Kirwan of NFL.com.

Check out this interview with Bulaga on NFL.com.

After watching it, I agree with Pat Kirwan who said, "Sitting down with him was like talking with an NFL offensive line coach."

He's technically sound and comes with the blessing of a coach close to him.

And the thing with the Chiefs, as we've learned, is that you can't count out anyone with the 5th pick. Tyson Jackson was pretty far out there and I know Scott Pioli will pick the guy he feels will help the team best.

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Just from watching

him today, he seems to be the most technically sound O-lineman by far.

by WtexKC on Feb 27, 2010 6:07 PM CST reply actions  

Please

no. There are way to many other better qualified players out there to get at the 5th pick.

by Rowdy Chief on Feb 27, 2010 6:09 PM CST reply actions  

Gholston and Mandarich

were picked in the top 10 based mainly on off-the-charts physical numbers, and not on other factors…neither was seen as a “smart” football players like Bulaga.

by mizzou60 on Feb 27, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

If Okung

is still there at #5 and is the clear #1 LT prospect and he’s available, we have to take him. We don’t have the luxury of taking less talented players like we did last year whenb we took Tyson Jackson.

by wilson123 on Feb 27, 2010 6:14 PM CST reply actions  

Tyson Jackson was the best player at a position of need. Any one of these LT’s would not be a position of need, and would be a ridiculously foolish pick.

by dablueguy on Feb 27, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

if that's the case then we can' afford to take okung

BA is a solid LT and is only getting better. grabbing a LT and moving BA will help the OL out but it’s not going to have the same impact on the team that a berry or someother playmaker will have

Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?

Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Feb 27, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Noooo

Seriously? The one top guy with Trex arms and that’s who they are interested in! Trust me I think it’s a mistake to go OL with the 5th pick would much rather go ( Berry,Haden,McCoy) and get Pouncey with 2a but hell I’d settle with Okung , if I knew we were choosing between him and Trex from Iowa.

by SKyNYrDCHiEF44 on Feb 27, 2010 6:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Actually I was corrected on this last night

Balugu has average arms not short
Okung has Loooong arms

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Bulaga's arms are longer than Branden Alberts.

Branden Albert = 32 5/8 inch

Bryan Bulaga = 33 1/4 inch

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

"Mr. Pioli is a man who insists on hearing bad news immediately."

by Don Piolie's Consigliere on Mar 1, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Come on Pioli

I hope this is a smoke screen. Its not even a good smoke screen. Maybe if we trade way back in the draft. Okung is way better. We will suck again next year if our draft goes anything like this.

by Rowdy Chief on Feb 27, 2010 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

can he help?

Then I’m ok with it

by BJ Kissel on Feb 27, 2010 6:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

ya they do

i mean look at greenway and greene in the past couple drafts….really terrible…and all the talk about iowa players being the best coached players in the draft and technically sound, how could you pick worse players?

by hock57 on Feb 27, 2010 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Iowa players taken in the first 3 rounds since 2000

Ladell Betts (2-56, 2002) 3,000 yards rushing, 1,500 receiving, 4.1 YPC. Very good #2 back.
Dallas Clark (1-24, 2003) All-Pro TE this year. 4,200 career yards and more yards and receptions in the postseason than any TE in league history
Eric Steinbach (2-33, 2003) starter from his rookie season, to today (7 years), one of the highest paid guards in the league.
Bruce Nelson (2-50, 2003) career ended after 1 season by injury
Robert Gallery (1-2, 2004) yeah he didn’t become a franchise LT, but who does live up to their potential on the Raiders? Still a 6 year starter
Bob Sanders (2-44, 2004) An All-Pro every year he’s been healthy (both of them).
Nate Kaeding (3-65, 2004) horrendous postseason this year, but still holds the career FG accuracy record
Matt Roth (2-46, 2005) 8 sacks in 10 games this past year.
Jonathan Babineaux, (2-59, 2005) picked up 6 sacks from the DT spot in his 2nd year as a starter.
Chad Greenway, (1-17, 2006) missed his rookie year with a blown knee, started the last 3 years without missing a game.
Abdul Hodge (3-67, 2006) still kicking around the league, but hasn’t broken into a starting lineup
Marshall Yanda (3-86, 2007) started most of his rookie year at RT, began 2008 as a at RG starter before going out injured, started 9 games and the playoffs last year at RG.
Charles Godfrey (3-67, 2008) Starter from week 1 of his rookie year.
Shonn Greene (3-65, 2009) beasted this past year, especially late in the season.
Bradley Fletcher(3-66, 2009) 3 starts at CB his rookie year.

by shake n bake on Feb 27, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

some decent guys on there

I went to Iowa State but don’t dislike Iowa. Perhaps that’s weird but I’m from Missouri so don’t have the in-state stuff bred into me.

I do think Shonn Greene is ultimately going to tear it up and have a good career.

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-- Madden

by kabrink on Feb 27, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm Iowa City born and at the U of Iowa now

I get a twisted kind of pleasure from Conference shake up scenarios that send Iowa State to the MAC.

by shake n bake on Feb 27, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

MAC? seriously?

I had heard Big 10 once. But, I don’t really follow it.

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"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse."
-- Madden

by kabrink on Feb 27, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

there would have to be a mass exodus from the Big 12

big enough to kill the conference (i.e. Texas among those jumping ship) and ISU is passed over for joining the B10 for Kansas/Missouri/Nebraska/Big East Team X Y and/or Z.

by shake n bake on Feb 27, 2010 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

What I've learned about the Chiefs

Is that we won’t know anything until the pick’s name is called. Who saw Chris Chambers coming off of wires? (Anyone? Hello?) What about Succop getting picked last? How about Cassel and Vrabel? This crew plays their cards very close to the vest. Love the suspense.

by nycchief on Feb 27, 2010 6:20 PM CST reply actions  

indeed

There were a bunch of teams interested in Chambers. We were lucky to be in the #3 spot for the waiver wire on that one.

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Understood

But I don’t recall anyone here actually calling Chambers being claimed by KC.

by nycchief on Feb 27, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't call it here

because I was just lurking on this site at that point, but I definitely saw Chambers coming. As others said, we claimed just about every waived wide receiver last year.

That being said, your point still stands – the pick could be anyone.

by MtHammer on Feb 28, 2010 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I think we’ll know a few days in advance. Last year, Tyson Jackson started appearing matched with us consistently about a week before the draft, and I started paying attention because the pick made tons of sense, considering where we were and what we were looking for at the time.

by dablueguy on Feb 27, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Take him!

If Suh or McCoy aren’t available to us in the fifth spot, we have to take an O-Lineman or Safety. I really believe by drafting an OT first will make two positions better immediately. I would be estatic with Bulaga!

by dahd11 on Feb 27, 2010 6:31 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

i'm not against drafting to fix the OL this year

just at #5. there is no way that picking a LT and moving BA is going to have a better result then if we keep BA at LT and draft a C or a G

Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?

Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Feb 27, 2010 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Good Point

However, O-Line should be a priority. But so should DT,S, and WR.

by dahd11 on Feb 27, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

true the o-line needs to be fixed

but because we lack so much talent, every pick needs to count. we can’t afford to waste the #5 on a OT

Seriously mates, when have I ever been sarcastic?

Oh and in case you were wondering, that hug offer is still there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Feb 27, 2010 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm why?

i understand hes a great player, but at no. 5? this is a great draft class this year. I see no reason why berry or okung couldn’t be at the number 5 spot. There is no way they can both be gone especially now because the rams are in talk of getting a QB.

You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday

Cassel can lead us.

by BEEf_CHIEF on Feb 27, 2010 6:35 PM CST reply actions  

I think the first for picks go

1. Bradford
2. Suh
3. McCoy
4. Okung

That leaves us at five with a choice between Berry, McClain, and this fella. So who do we take?

by Chiefwanka on Feb 27, 2010 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

Anyone but a LT. McClain, Berry, Bryant, Dan Williams in that order

by dablueguy on Feb 27, 2010 6:39 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

This guy would not come in and play better than Albert at LT.

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

But he would make an excellent RT and possibly LG in 2011

anybody know anything on Waters situation?

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

You don’t draft a RT or LG at #5. You draft LT’s at #5 and we don’t need one.

by dablueguy on Feb 27, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

For a #5 pick?

I’d be completely pissed if the Chiefs took at RT or LG #5 overall!

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Well it wouldn't be advertised as such

Marketing department kicks in.
Okung would be considered the same type of sales job IMO

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

It doesn’t matter how it’s marketed. Taking a LT with #5 is NOT improving the LT position. It’s taking a Guard or RT at #5 which is beyond a bad move.

by dablueguy on Feb 27, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly why I'm not wild about it :-\

There’s so much more we could do with that pick

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

only draft pick i feel comfortable about is Oakland

Taking bruce Campbell, or maybe Taylor mays

by BJ Kissel on Feb 27, 2010 6:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Sorry a sim and I wanted to leave in some of the names that we are bandying about

from Drafttek with a Balugu grab at #5:

1 1 St Louis Ndamukong Suh DT43 Nebraska P4Grab +0 Value
1 2 Detroit Gerald McCoy DT43 Oklahoma P1 -1 Reach
1 3 Tampa Bay Eric Berry FS Tennessee P4Grab +1 Value
1 4 Washington Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State P2Grab -6 Reach
1 5 Kansas City Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa P3Grab +1 Value
1 6 Seattle Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame P2Grab -9 Reach
1 7 Cleveland Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma P1 -4 Reach
1 8 Oakland Rolando McClain OLB43 Alabama P3 +2 Value
1 9 Buffalo Anthony Davis OT Rutgers P1 -5 Reach
1 10 Denver Joe Haden CB Florida P2 +5 Value
1 11 Jacksonville Dez Bryant WRF Oklahoma State P3 +2 Value
1 12 Miami Brandon Graham OLB34 Michigan P3R -6 Reach
1 13 San Francisco Taylor Mays SS USC P4Grab -13 Reach
1 14 Seattle Charles Brown OT USC P3Grab -18 Reach
1 15 NY Giants Earl Thomas FS Texas P3 +2 Value
1 16 Tennessee Carlos Dunlap DE43 Florida P1 +8 Value
1 17 San Francisco Trent Williams OT Oklahoma P1 -2 Reach
1 18 Pittsburgh Mike Iupati OG Idaho P3 +2 Value
1 19 Atlanta Derrick Morgan DE43 Georgia Tech P2 +7 Value
1 20 Houston Jonathan Dwyer RBF Georgia Tech P3 -1 Reach
1 21 Cincinnati Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma P1Grab -14 Reach
1 22 New England Jared Odrick DE34 Penn State P2 -3 Reach
1 23 Green Bay Bruce Campbell OT Maryland P1Grab -6 Reach
1 24 Philadelphia Maurkice Pouncey OC Florida P3O +1 Value
1 25 Baltimore Devin McCourty CB Rutgers P2 -2 Reach
1 26 Arizona Ricky Sapp OLB34 Clemson P3 +2 Value
1 27 Dallas Kyle Wilson CB Boise State P3 -6 Reach
1 28 San Diego Corey Wootton DE34 Northwestern P2 -6 Reach
1 29 NY Jets Patrick Robinson CB Florida State P2 -11 Reach
1 30 Minnesota C.J. Spiller RBC Clemson P3O +23 Value
1 31 Indianapolis Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma P4Grab -13 Reach
1 32 New Orleans Brian Price DT43 UCLA P4Grab -9 Reach
2 33 St Louis Everson Griffen DE43 USC P1Grab +3 Value
2 34 Detroit Jason Pierre-Paul DE43 South Florida P2 +12 Value
2 35 Tampa Bay Dan Williams DT34 Tennessee P1 +18 Value
2 36 Kansas City Brandon Spikes ILB Florida P3 -2 Reach
2 37 Washington Colt McCoy QB Texas P1 -9 Reach
2 38 Cleveland Golden Tate WRF Notre Dame P3O +18 Value
2 39 Oakland Vladimir Ducasse OG Massachusetts P1 -11 Reach
2 40 Seattle Jahvid Best RBC California P3 +12 Value
2 41 Buffalo Terrence Cody DT34 Alabama P2Grab -21 Reach
2 42 New England Sergio Kindle OLB34 Texas P2 +11 Value
2 43 Miami Brandon LaFell WRF LSU P3O +7 Value
2 44 Tampa Bay Jerry Hughes DE43 TCU P2 +1 Value
2 45 Denver Dexter McCluster WRS Mississippi P3O -2 Reach
2 46 NY Giants Daryl Washington ILB TCU P3 -8 Reach
2 47 New England Aaron Hernandez TE Florida P3O -1 Reach
2 48 Carolina Damian Williams WRF USC P3O +9 Value
2 49 San Francisco Rodger Saffold OG Indiana P2 -9 Reach
2 50 Houston Sean Weatherspoon OLB43 Missouri P4 +13 Value
2 51 Kansas City Morgan Burnett SS Georgia Tech P3 -2 Reach
2 52 Pittsburgh Nate Allen FS South Florida P3 +0 Value
2 53 New England Ryan Mathews RBF Fresno State P4 +11 Value
2 54 Cincinnati Chad Jones SS LSU P2Grab -1 Reach
2 55 Philadelphia T.J. Ward SS Oregon P1 -18 Reach
2 56 Green Bay Selvish Capers OT West Virginia P9Grab -28 Reach
2 57 Baltimore Demaryius Thomas WRP Georgia Tech P3 +1 Value
2 58 Arizona Tony Pike QB Cincinnati P3 -2 Reach
2 59 Dallas Jason Fox OT Miami P3 -5 Reach
2 60 San Diego Anthony Dixon RBF Mississippi State P3 -5 Reach
2 64 New Orleans Koa Misi DE43 Utah P3Grab -25 Reach
3 65 St Louis Arrelious Benn WRF Illinois P2 +14 Value
3 66 Detroit John Jerry OG Mississippi P2 +0 Value
3 68 Kansas City Jon Asamoah OG Illinois P3 -7 Reach
3 71 Cleveland Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma State P2 +4 Value
3 73 Miami Eric Norwood ILB South Carolina P2 -12 Reach
3 74 Chicago Reshad Jones SS Georgia P1 -5 Reach
3 75 Jacksonville Tyson Alualu DT43 California P4 +26 Value
3 76 NY Giants J.D. Walton OC Baylor P3 -11 Reach
3 80 Denver Matt Tennant OC Boston College P2 -14 Reach
3 83 Houston Rodger Saffold OG Indiana P3 -15 Reach
3 84 Cincinnati Marshawn Gilyard WRS Cincinnati P2 +13 Value
3 85 Oakland Mike Johnson OG Alabama P2 -15 Reach
3 89 Arizona Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona P4 +21 Value
3 90 Dallas Jordan Shipley WRS Texas P4 +16 Value
3 91 San Diego Jared Veldheer OT Hillsdale P3R -18 Reach
3 92 Cleveland Toby Gerhart RBF Stanford P3O +23 Value
3 93 Minnesota Tim Tebow QB Florida P3 +16 Value
4 99 Kansas City Cam Thomas DT34 North Carolina P3 +9 Value
4 100 Washington Ciron Black OG LSU P2 -28 Reach
4 107 Miami Torrell Troup DT34 Central Florida P2 -19 Reach
4 108 Carolina Dezmon Briscoe WRP Kansas P4 +11 Value
4 110 San Francisco Jacoby Ford WRS Clemson P2 -9 Reach
4 113 Pittsburgh Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky P3R -21 Reach
4 118 Philadelphia LeGarrette Blount RBF Oregon P3Grab -32 Reach
4 124 Philadelphia Myron Rolle SS Florida State P9Grab -47 Reach
5 128 St Louis Freddie Barnes WRF Bowling Green P9Grab +1 Value
5 132 Kansas City Mike Williams WRF Syracuse P4 +17 Value
5 133 Cleveland Kam Chancellor FS Virginia Tech P3 +4 Value
5 134 Oakland Darrell Stuckey SS Kansas P4R +3 Value
5 135 Seattle Arthur Jones DT43 Syracuse P3 -6 Reach
5 136 Buffalo Pat Angerer ILB Iowa P2 -21 Reach
5 137 Jacksonville Jevan Snead QB Mississippi P3 +14 Value
5 138 Kansas City Tony Moeaki TE Iowa P4 +20 Value
5 139 Chicago Mitch Petrus OG Arkansas P2 +6 Value
5 140 Tennessee Danario Alexander WRP Missouri P2 -11 Reach
5 142 Detroit Joique Bell RBF Wayne State P3 +10 Value
5 144 Kansas City Trevard Lindley CB Kentucky P4R +4 Value
6 181 Cincinnati O’Brien Schofield OLB43 Wisconsin P3O +14 Value

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

Steve

That hurts man

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Okung was gone on the grab

I really wonder if the Chiefs aren’t still working on a 2-year plan of aquiring talent?

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

well...

it’s definitely year-2 of the plan :)

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

No sorry might be year one of the 2-year plan

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I fear what that means

in terms of the win column.

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

We could win 8 and that is what is expected

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

If drafting this guy #5 means an 8 win season

then I’d be less inclined to bitch, but since there’s no way to tell that sort of thing up front… I’ma bitch!

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Bitch away

just that the post was they like Balugu and if we were to grab him it would be with the 1st round pick.

Now maybe Aiken-Drum would feel that we would get him in a swap for McClain from Miami :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

My point is this

do you draft a LT with the #5 pick, pay him #5 LT money and play him at RT or LG because he’s not an improvement over your current LT?

There’s no way in hell I can see a brain-trust made up of Pioli, Haley, Weis and Crennel doing something this brain-dead.

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

No

I agree, the post though suggests…..
So I roll with it.

Would appear to be a bad Idea :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahh

we’re on the same page ;)

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by Buck'O on Feb 27, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

That 3rd is looking very interesting with the talent available

do we want to trade it away?

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

OK...

   …why 2 G’s? why not a G & a WR?

by Special K on Feb 27, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I used the drafttek grabs which Merlin has a 2 interior lineman

sorry it should have adjusted, but it is just a feel of where the players might go.
We could draft Tebow with our 3rd or maybe 4th pick?

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Steve:

Just to clarify. I have two o-lineman needs for the draft tek priority codes. One is a guard at a P3 level and the other is also P3 paired. What I did was pair OT/OG/C. So, the sim will grab someone for OT/OG/C and grab a guard. So, we could end up with a OT and OG or Two OG’s or a OG and C. Since you put a grab on Baluga, That took care of the pair and left us with a single OG need at a P3 level.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Feb 27, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You all have Berry ranked #2 on the Big board?

ran a mock trade and it is in the draft post. OMG that is a strange look with Okung at #12 or so

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I could see KC trading downnand getting him...

…if Berry is still there or a QB or maybe McClain…

by FrankPitts on Feb 27, 2010 6:44 PM CST reply actions  

Bulaga

As I see it, he’d be a “safe” pick; He may be a better guard than tackle….Albert wouldn’t necessarily need to move inside

by Special K on Feb 27, 2010 6:52 PM CST reply actions  

And you don’t take that with a 35 pick. If Bulaga is there with pour 2nd rounder(doubtful), by all means take him if he’s an NFL Guard.

by dablueguy on Feb 27, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Okung and Bulaga are the most NFL ready for right now

but I strongly feel that USC’s Charles Brown and Maryland’s Bruce Campbell will be the best in the long run. The only thing I like about Anthony Davis from Rutgers is his run blocking and I think Oklahoma’s Trent Williams will either play on the right side or slide inside to guard. And for the record, my praise for Campbell has absolutely nothing to do with his 40 time he ran today…I just really like Brown and Campbell’s pass blocking and ability to fit a zone blocking scheme in the run game.

by kc_radrh8r on Feb 27, 2010 6:55 PM CST reply actions  

Buluga isn't a reach

If you look at Mayocks top 20 overall, Buluga is the 6th OVERALL talent in the draft. He is ahead of Berry, McClain, Davis, Bradford and only two spots behind Okung. Pioli has the inside on Buluga with knowing the coach and all so he may very well go in that direction. Okung will likely will be gone before the Chiefs pick anyhow with Detroit and Washington both in need of offensive line help

by Chiefs3188 on Feb 27, 2010 7:16 PM CST reply actions  

but

is that “positional value” based? I’m with those arguing that we don’t need to waste pick #5 on a redundant position. Take BPA at NEED. I think anything on the defensive side would be a better pick here – for US.

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by kabrink on Feb 27, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Everyone would agree that upgrading the O-line is needed

That is what this would accomplish imo. You have to add talent to that line somehow. However, all this speculation is occuring before holes are filled through free agency and we shouldn’t get worked up over some predraft hype.

by TonyG88 on Feb 27, 2010 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Why is there even a debate about this?

Does nobody read/hear what Haley and Pioli have been saying? I haven’t heard one good, logical, non-personal-opinion argument why people think we are actually drafting a LT with our first pick but I could easy give you 10 reasons off the cuff without thinking very hard why we wont and why BA will be at LT next year.

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by GenericBrand on Feb 27, 2010 7:16 PM CST reply actions  

What else is there to draft if not a LT

We would be reaching with just about anyone else we picked, both DT’s don’t fit the scheme, Berry is a saftey, and McClain is a reach. I could see us going for Dan Williams as a NT, being the greatest need but besides that it would be a LT. With the money we would be paying there is no one worthy of the pick except for a LT.

by Chiefs3188 on Feb 27, 2010 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

so, really... everyone ELSE thinks Bulaga is good in KC

but, there isn’t much indication that the Chiefs ACTUALLY like him, or would take him

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
* keep Albert at LT, upgrade the positions that NEED upgrading.C, RG, NT, S, LB

by stagdsp on Feb 27, 2010 8:13 PM CST reply actions  

admittedly

that’s kind of a worrisome thing. The same way we need to be skeptical about what coaches DO say, we also have to be skeptical about what the DON’T say.

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by kabrink on Feb 27, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

He would be a terrible LT

What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.

by Aperture on Feb 27, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

he has all the skills you'd want in a TE, except health

Iowa coaches have been calling him the best TE they’ve ever coached (from a program that produced Dallas Clark)

but he missed 26 games, while playing in 37, over 5 years at Iowa.

by shake n bake on Feb 27, 2010 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like Brad Cottam's scouting report

He was supposed to be a better tight end at Tennessee than Jason Witten…just couldnt stay healthy.

by kc_radrh8r on Feb 28, 2010 12:47 AM CST up reply actions  

problem is if we did take a lt

And moved Albert to guard, and waters to center. We then have a stopgap at center, so we draft a center too?

Then we’re using 2 valuable picks on something that wasn’t broken at the end of the year.

So for arguments sake, taking bulaga or okung, and then pouncey at 2a if he falls. Great players, but doesn’t help the defense.

I like getting continuity on the line and just like the defensive line was focused last year, maybe its the ol this year

by BJ Kissel on Feb 27, 2010 10:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

from above

I see that Waters is going to cost 5 million next year and at least 3 million in 2011.

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Waters is not a dummy and he hired an agent for the 2009 season cause

He might be a FA in 2010.

Again Waters is not a dummy :)

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 10:55 PM CST up reply actions  

if all the players on our roster cost 5 million we would have 24 players

with a payroll of 120 Million, does that seem Pioli like to wrap up 1/24 of the payroll at LG?

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 27, 2010 11:00 PM CST reply actions  

Ya know Steve thats a good point.

And that is alot of money for a LG thats long in the tooth.

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

"Mr. Pioli is a man who insists on hearing bad news immediately."

by Don Piolie's Consigliere on Feb 28, 2010 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I would HATE the pick if we took Bulaga at 5!

If we traded down, and took him to play the right side tackle then that would be a different story.

Bulaga will be a mistake if we took him at 5 to play Left Tackle. I was watching highlight video’s of Brandon Graham and saw the two matched up. Graham made Bulaga look like he was standing still. If Pioli and Co. thinks that Graham could play well in space, and as an OLB I would prefer Graham at 5.

If you look at the video at around the 3:49 mark you’ll see Brandon Graham blow past Bulaga.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQfcytu6ItI

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by aPacificChief on Feb 28, 2010 4:13 AM CST reply actions  

Bulaga didn't look right last year until the Orange Bowl

The thyroid infection screwed up his weight, sapped his conditioning and took him out of the lineup for 3 weeks.

Watch him in 2008 and handling Derrick Morgan in the Orange Bowl. That’s the Bulaga teams are planning on getting.

by shake n bake on Feb 28, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

kirk ferentz

also used tony moeaki and had him right on bulaga’s butt in the orange bowl helping him out the whole game.

"We're not losers, we just can't win!"

by chief Stevie_k on Feb 28, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

ya know

i thought it was reported on here that:
1) Pioli doesn’t let the combine change his draft board.
2) Pioli was quoted as saying that the interviews don’t hold much water as the guys have been coached up by their agents.

coupled with the fact that the chiefs didn’t scout any Iowa games that were ever reported,
and I don’t understand where the Bulaga talk comes in. are we going to draft him as our O-line coach? as an iowa fan, i have been dying for iowa guys to get drafted by the chiefs, but i do not want him to be our first pick of the draft.

it is funny how short arms knock everybody else down in the draft, except the guy who is playing the most important position on the line.

hmm….cloudy judgment?

"We're not losers, we just can't win!"

by chief Stevie_k on Feb 28, 2010 9:40 AM CST reply actions  

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