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"Doesn't your paper ask you to blog these days?" I ask one writer who seems particularly disgusted with my presence.

"You bet your ass they do," he hisses in reply. "But if it weren't for jokers like you, they'd still appreciate my filing three stories per week, instead of asking me to write a blog three times a day."

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SBNation.com is represented at the NFL Combine by Peter Bean. He's jotted down some notes on his day yesterday, including an experience with an established reporter.

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I Loved His Piece On The NFL Media "Old Guard"

He hit the nail right on the head. They don’t like bloggers primarily because it challenges their primacy as the know-it-all news source and it gives them a level of competition for both news gathering and analysis that they haven’t had to deal with for a generation.

Freedom of the press (by which I mean the ability of anyone to “own” their own press in the digital age) is a wonderful thing.

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by UCrawford on Feb 26, 2010 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

Peter Bean

Blogs at BurntOrangeNation.com, SBNation’s Texas blog. He’s an excellent writer.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 26, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

yes but

Yes the openness of “new media” is in many ways a wonderful thing but it isn’t hard to suggest that average quality of actual news is falling. Just look at the content of AP and the vast majority is utter unsubstantiated bullshit. It used to be (in that mythical rose tinted world) that proper journalists researched and dug up stories and their editor would say what is your source, I can’t go to print without a source.

Think about Watergate and Woodward and Bernstein. If you remember the film version, half the time it’s the two guys going round asking people are you prepared to go on record. I can picture the Watergate scandal 2.0 version with Wolf Blitzer standing in front of a huge touch screen playing with graphics of the hotel saying "now let’s see what Twitter is saying on this, ah fluffyvaginaxxx says “GOP sux0rs”.

Blame my wife!
Waiting until August 2010

by sir eccles on Feb 26, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

It'll sort itself out

Quality work is still pretty self evident, the cream will continue to rise to the top…even more so than when getting a writing job meant going to a prestigious journalism school & impressing the right people in power. Yes there is a lot of BS on AP, but that’s relegated to the Fanposts/Fanshots…you see even worse on the KC Star’s comments section. The great thing about the ‘new media’ is that the barriers to entry for talented writers are no longer nearly as important.

I mean think about it, there are many Chiefs blogs out there, but only the highest quality ones (like AP & Bob Gretz) probably receive any significant traffic.

Predictions:
This year will be better

by jmcgoblue on Feb 26, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

Quality eventually speaks for itself. Our community has increased probably tenfold over the last couple of years because the front page stories of AP feature three constants…1) good writing, 2) solid analysis and 3) openness to alternative viewpoints from the community (which helps us to constantly learn and adapt). Those are the hallmarks of a solid journalistic product, even if most of us aren’t “professional” journalists.

Basically, at times we’re closer to the ideal of what a journalist should be than the newspapers are.

(By the way, jmcgoblue, props to you on the usage of “barriers to entry” in the discussion). :)

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by UCrawford on Feb 26, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll Disagree There
It used to be (in that mythical rose tinted world) that proper journalists researched and dug up stories and their editor would say what is your source, I can’t go to print without a source.

That’s the ideal…the objective reporter always writes an objective story from a verifiable source. But it’s not the reality and never was. The reality is that the news was usually slanted, the reporters were always biased and taking liberties with the sourcing was frequent. Until Reagan put the kibosh on the Fairness Doctrine, the primary reason that we considered newspapers and major networks to be “high-quality” reporting and analysis was that there was simply little else to compare them to because other voices were frozen out of the debate. That’s why liberals are so high on the idea of “net neutrality” and reimplementing the “Fairness” Doctrine. They liked the era of lazy journalism with a liberal bias coming from what was essentially a government-created monopoly. Now those reporters have to bust their asses against the rest of the world and they’re finding out that the reality is that much of what they do just isn’t that difficult, that even the average person is capable of doing good analysis without having a journalist as a filter, and that real news reporting isn’t the sole province of the “professional”.

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by UCrawford on Feb 26, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Well said UCrawford!

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Feb 26, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Who would have guessed it

UC once again bitching about democrats.

Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!

by nateforchiefs on Feb 27, 2010 1:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

bahahahaha!

I love it. Old fart needs to roll with the changes.

by bfett81 on Feb 26, 2010 11:50 AM CST reply actions  

I'm probably way off...

but this statement

“But if it weren’t for jokers like you, they’d still appreciate my filing three stories per week, instead of asking me to write a blog three times a day.”

sounds to me like:

“I used to be able to be a lazy shit and write 3 columns a week. Now my employer expects me to work every day and I don’t like. Thanks to you assholes.”

I’m sure it’s not the same for all reporters.

by Ochophosphate on Feb 26, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

The KC Star guys I see out at things

Are always busting their ass. Maybe we’re lucky in KC but I like our group of reporters.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 26, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

"The old guard"

Heh! And that my friends, is why we all come here for the latest and greatest on our favorite team. Good for the NFL for opening up to the blogs. The product is 1000% better.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Feb 26, 2010 11:17 PM CST reply actions  

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