If Chiefs Are Interested, Dansby Could Cost $30 Million

No Freaking Way

That’s Redskins territory….

Dansby isn’t worth that!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Feb 21, 2010 2:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions

Nope

Not interested.

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by UCrawford on Feb 21, 2010 2:04 PM CST reply actions

That’s what his market would be, and it makes sense. He’s BY FAR the best Unrestricted FA on the market. He said he’s open to anyone, and we should be VERY interested.

by dablueguy on Feb 21, 2010 2:05 PM CST reply actions

Too expensive and not worth it. Besides that money will go to Wilfork. ( ;

My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.

WRITE IT DOWN!

by BigRedChief on Feb 21, 2010 2:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

But For $30 Million???

Make him the highest paid Chief EVER?

I will pass, especially since we are about to fork over the same amount on a top 5 for the 3rd consecutive year. Money can be better spent elsewhere.

by Bead Man on Feb 21, 2010 2:08 PM CST reply actions

He;s a great player

But not worth that money.

"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"

by Jux on Feb 21, 2010 2:08 PM CST reply actions

Also

What contender has that kind of money to throw around

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Feb 21, 2010 2:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions

What would taking an unproven ILB at #5 cost the Chiefs?

by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 21, 2010 2:15 PM CST reply actions

Similar amounts

But for a 22 year old vs. a 28 year old.

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by Joel Thorman on Feb 21, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions

But one is proven. Dansby has at least 4-5 top years left, the same length as a top 5 contract, but more of a sure thing.

by dablueguy on Feb 21, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions

Lower ceiling

When you take a guy with the fifth pick, you probably feel he has a chance to be the best player at his position in the NFL…that’s not Dansby.

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by Joel Thorman on Feb 21, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah but

We know what Dansby"s level of play is. On the other hand we don’t know what any of these guys coming out will be.

by bluechief7 on Feb 21, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions

He’s worth that money more than a top 5 pick is. As much as I like McClain for our #5, I’d rather pay Dansby, and then draft a S(Berry), a NT(Williams), or a WR(Bryant), or the best option, move down. Dansby signing takes a major need off the table.

by dablueguy on Feb 21, 2010 2:18 PM CST reply actions

I think he's worth it...

If it’s a 5 year deal at $30mil.

by bluechief7 on Feb 21, 2010 2:22 PM CST reply actions

It would be a similar deal to Cassel’s, 5-6 years, 30 guaranteed, total value about 60. I think he’s worth it more than McClain would be, who would get a similar contract.

by dablueguy on Feb 21, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions

I agree Blue...

At the same time, we really need to be actively pursuing Wilfork. If we can only have one of the top defensive free agents, I’ll take Wilfork every time. I fwe can’t get Wilfork, I’d be fine with us getting Dansby and addressing the NT issue in the draft.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Feb 22, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions

I agree, Wilfork over Dansby if we could only get one, BUT Dansby will cost nothing but money, while Wilfork will cost money AND draft pick(s), so Dansby will be the far easier get.

by dablueguy on Feb 22, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions

He would also be

One of those players that improves the D right away. A rookie might take a couple years.

by bluechief7 on Feb 21, 2010 2:28 PM CST reply actions

well, my guess is that KC takes a shot at ONE bigger name FA/trade...

if it’s Dansby OR Wilfork… I take “the fork” everytime.

IF Wilfork is out of the question, I’d take Dansby and draft a big heavy

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 2:33 PM CST reply actions

I’d prefer Wilfork also, but he won’t hit Free agency.

by dablueguy on Feb 21, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions

agreed...but a trade is possible

and he will cost plenty of money

I dont’ see them paying 2 vets PLUS a top 5 pick on one year

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions

I like also like Wilfork if we had to pick one but

does anyone know how much Wilfork is asking for?

by bluechief7 on Feb 21, 2010 2:47 PM CST reply actions

all I heard is that he's not asking for Haynesworth money

but, he won’t be cheap, either

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions

I don't think we get Wilfork.

Doesn’t he want to play for a team in Florida?

by bluechief7 on Feb 21, 2010 2:52 PM CST reply actions

I'd like to live in Florida too... but I found a good paying job in Des Moines, so I'm here

Wilfork will go where he’s traded… and/or who will pay him

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions

Where abouts do you live in Des Moines?

I live just over an hour from WDM.

by Helmets on Feb 21, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions

i'd rather sign some other ILB

oh and we got this guy named Derrick Johnson hes pretty good
oh and we have a chance to get mcclain
belcher and mays have some potential.

so sorry dansby you missed out on gettin a ring

You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first - the leader of a team - who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback.
--- Any given sunday

Cassel can lead us.

by BEEf_CHIEF on Feb 21, 2010 2:56 PM CST reply actions

Trade DJ and a 2nd rounder for Wilfork?

by bluechief7 on Feb 21, 2010 2:57 PM CST reply actions

We would, but would NE??

by dablueguy on Feb 21, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions

they might take the 2nd, and let us keep DJ

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions

Here's the thing everyone seems to be forgetting about Wilfork...

NE drafted a VERY capable replacement last year in Ron Brace. Wilfork will NOT be a Patriot next year one way or another. They are not going to give him the HUGE payday he wants so, somebody is going to get him this offseason.

With Pioli and Crennell here, I’d say we are the TOP candidate for acquiring his services IF we are willing to give him the big payday he is expecting…I think Pioli is willing to do that.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Feb 22, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions

Id take that

by badassz1987 on Feb 21, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions

Funny...

I totally said this exact thing just a couple days ago in one of the fanshots.

So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.

by IISaiNtII on Feb 21, 2010 3:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions

He certainly didnt earn the right to ask for 30M with his play in his contract year...

If its a “what have you dont for me lately?” league then….

Karlos Dansby: 109 tackles(89 solo), 1 sack, 1 int

Demorrio Williams: 117 tackles(95 solo), 0 sacks, 0 ints

Not a whole lot of difference except pay expectations.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2010 3:18 PM CST reply actions

Hes not even the best at his position.....

No thanks. MUCH rather have that money shelled out to a NT then an ILB

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Feb 21, 2010 3:19 PM CST reply actions

To put in perspective...

Bart Scott got a 6 year 48M dollar deal last offseason with only 22M guaranteed and he’s easily a better ILB the Dansby will ever be.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Feb 21, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions

Can we trade for Bart Scott then?

by bluechief7 on Feb 21, 2010 3:56 PM CST reply actions

I would rather spent the money to get VW here

by banshee_01 on Feb 21, 2010 4:20 PM CST reply actions

I read on the Pats site yesterday

and most of them think if VW is traded they’ll at least get a 1st and 3rd for him. Some were even saying a 1st and 2nd.

by SoMoChief on Feb 21, 2010 4:26 PM CST reply actions

A 2nd and a 3rd at the most.

by bluechief7 on Feb 21, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions

There were a few that said that,

but the majority were talking about a 1st being included

by SoMoChief on Feb 21, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions

well, with all due respect to the blog world

that’s a fan perspective…

in reality, it could easily be less… remember, several teams wanted Cassel last year, and KC got him AND Vrabel for a 2nd.

A potential Franchise QB has just as much or more trade value than a NT… so I would think that Wilfork’s value is somewhere around a 2nd

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions

The reason we got Cassel is because we were willing to take Vrabel, and get his salary off their books.

by dablueguy on Feb 21, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions

doubt that

sure, it was a salary-dump… but KC wanted Vrabel to help with the 3-4 transition… he wasn’t pushed on us.

they were willing to take less than usual, because they couldn’t afford Cassel and Brady…

I think they could take a reasonable offer for Wilfork if they can’t get him signed to a long term deal

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions

I hope you’re right and we could get Wilfork for just a 2nd.

by dablueguy on Feb 21, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions

2a is like a first and would solve our NT spot

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 21, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions

and NE prefers 2nd round picks anyway

I’m still hoping for a 2011 2nd, with maybe a 2010 5th or something if needed

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 5:50 PM CST up reply actions

something will most likely happen here.

by krayfish on Feb 21, 2010 4:44 PM CST reply actions

good one kray.

by bluechief7 on Feb 21, 2010 4:51 PM CST reply actions

Karlos Dansby is a more accomplished Derrick Johnson

I say no to Dansby. The type of player Dansby is, a sideline to sideline speed player is exactly what Johnson is. Neither Dansby nor Johnson is the type of guy to take on blockers. I don’t see the Chiefs going in this direction.

by Dagda on Feb 21, 2010 5:00 PM CST reply actions

More perspective:

Tyson Jackson’s contract was for $57 million, and $31 million guaranteed.

I ask you: who’s worth more, Dansby, or Jackson?

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2010 5:07 PM CST reply actions

for the future of this team?

Jackson is worth more

Guys like Dansby are more common

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions

I don't think so

A proven impact player is worth far more than an unproven guy who only allegedly has the potential to make an impact.

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions

Totally different positions

and totally different drafts.
30 million structured however for an ILB is ludicrous and Dansby is about to find that out

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 21, 2010 5:39 PM CST up reply actions

What does the fact that they were drafted different years have to do with it?

and totally different drafts.

What’s that have to do with it? I was comparing what KC pays Jackson to the number being thrown around for Dansby. I think Dansby would earn $30 million guaranteed more than Jackson would, but part of that is because I believe Jackson is a pedestrian talent.

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions

well, I think you're wrong about Jackson

and you’ll be proven wrong over the next few years.

Dansby is a playmaker… but I think he isn’t worth the money, and wouldn’t be much better than DJ or McClain/Spikes or even Micah Johnson…

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 21, 2010 5:53 PM CST up reply actions

What do you like about Jackson

Did you watch him play at LSU? There’s reason he was almost invisible on the field for them. It’s because he’s not very good. He couldn’t even make an impact as a 4-3 end in college. How’s he going to go from such mediocrity to being a star 5-technique end in the NFL?

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions

He’s not a 4-3 playmaking DE. He’s a 3-4 DE, an occupier to free up others. Now we just have to those others. He’s never going to make much noise, as Pioli noted when he drafted him. He compared him to Russel Maryland, and anchor player, but hardly spectacular.

by dablueguy on Feb 21, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions

We'll see if he ever gets to Maryland status

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah cuz you know

no player has ever had a good or mediocre career in college and gone on to have a great NFL career

by badassz1987 on Feb 21, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions

Brilliant

Can you name any other mediocre college players who have gone in the top three in the NFL draft?

I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.

by burntorangehorn on Feb 21, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions

Jackson is the Rook on a Chessboard

Something to build around

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 21, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions

He is a 4-tech

controlling the B and C gap

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 21, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions

Same as Dorsey in this scheme

We lack the NT to control the both A-gaps

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 21, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions

What sort of impact did Dansby make?

Rather hard to tell. His numbers are pedestrian…

by Dagda on Feb 21, 2010 9:36 PM CST up reply actions

does it matter what hes worth

when we have this kinda money

stoop kids afraid to leave his stoop! stoop kids afraid to leave his stoop!

by greinke23 on Feb 21, 2010 5:57 PM CST reply actions

How much money do you have?

The Hunt family has a certain amount it is not ALL free to spend by AP commenters

"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 21, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions

Absolutely not

what a colossal waste

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by Buck'O on Feb 21, 2010 9:20 PM CST reply actions

This sounds like he's begging for Al Davis to sign him.

He’s the only guy who’ll shell out that kind of money to mediocre, best-FA-this-year-but-nowhere-near-the-best-at-his-spot players.

by JacinB on Feb 21, 2010 11:33 PM CST reply actions

a great addition, but...

too much money for a free agent. There really isnt a lot of guys who have ever gone to another team as a FA, and dominated the way they did with their previous team. I know there are a few, but overall it just doesnt happen.

Too risky for that much money. Build through the draft. Bring in a couple of solid players at key positions, for depth and leadership, but going for a homerun in free agency is a crap shoot.

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..

by be cee on Feb 22, 2010 10:35 AM CST reply actions