What will the market look like after teams start cutting?
I was browsing the Espn.com blogs this afternoon and one phrase caught my attention:
New England is roughly $3 million under the cap, the source said. Thomas' cap hit would be $8.8 if the Patriots cut him under the current rules. Rapoport mentions left tackle Matt Light and receiver Randy Moss as other players the Patriots could consider trimming for financial reasons -- but not for another couple weeks.
Right now everyone is so focused on the draft and those players with 6+ years of service who can become UFA's. But what about those players who are either getting to the backside of their careers or have salaries that are overinflated for what they provide to their team? Or how about a team like the New Orleans Saints who have a lot of players that came off a pretty good year and are looking to get paid (see Jari Evans) or who are good players but have a high salary (Reggie Bush, Charles Grant) or how about multiple players eating up salary at the same position (See Jamaal Brown, Jermon Bushrod, Zach Strief).
Throw-in owners that are looking to dump salary for whatever reason (Economics, Bust the Union, move the team, etc.) and it there could be more movement than expected. National Football Post had this to say about the owners:
For the first times in years, or maybe ever, the league has seen revenues flattened because of the shaky economy. So owners, especially those with long-term debt on their stadiums, are ready to fight back and pick up cash where they can. The expiration of the floor will bring this opportunity for owners to cut spending and “get some of their money back,” as one GM put it to me.
Another indicator for this is Jerry Jones. Think about it, Jerry is one of the owners who is considered a free spender but today he mentioned that why would he Franchise Miles Austin when he can just tender him the highest offer and the implication was that he could keep Austin for about $7 million per year less than Roy Williams. Which brings me back to the point about overpaid players. Roy Williams did next to nothing for Dallas this year, so why not cut him and re-invest his $10 million in Austin and some other younger players. This seems to make sense from both the business and football standpoint.
Also, in an uncapped year, what is to keep teams from making straight up contract trades? Now, I'm no expert but this off season will be very interesting if it makes it to the uncapped status. Already we've seen or heard of some big name players that have hit the streets or will be soon (Joey Porter, LT, Jamal Lewis). I'm sure a lot of these players won't give you much but Pioli did have some success in New England finding veterans who could contribute and he's tried to do the same here. I'll be anxious to see if we can find a few like Chris Chambers who just need a little change of scenery to make a difference.
A great resource going into Free Agency is this site:
As of today they show 236 UFAs, come March 5th I wonder what that number will be? Stay tuned Sports fans.
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Excellant thought. Maybe some of the high rollers ie Jones and Allen sought this to finance stadiums, clear older bad decisions and forced it on the weaker owners that have smaller but similar issues ie Buffalo, TB, and the new ownership in St. Louis.
Who loses besides the fans? You know Jones and Allen are fine, maybe we are all screwed cause of a very few.
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
Interesting that neither team is a 8-team that is required to lose to sign :(
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 17, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
Moss-Bowe
That would give Cassel some good recivers . And do not forget that a guy named Plaxico will be back soon .
CHIEFS fan 4 life
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Feb 18, 2010 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
2A for Wolfork and Moss...I could definately live with that.
Can make a Chief and Patriot trade an annual event.
no way on moss
Haley went bonkers over even the slightest perceived notion that D.Bowe was doggin it. im sorry but there is absolutely no way
this known slouch fits in here .
by Bleedzredngold on Feb 18, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
this will be key
lots of good players will hit the open market for one reason or another.
I’ve been saying Matt Light to the Chiefs was a very good possibility all along.
Another guy I’ve been lobbying for… Peyton Hillis, could be released.
Also, see my fanshot on Osgood… if he’s out there, he’s well worth grabbing…he’s already an all pro special teamer, and wants a chance at WR… he’s 6’5"… KC could be that chance.
I’m sure there will be more… and KC will make a few small-ish moves that could help this team before the draft.
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
Matt Light...?
has he played any other positions on the line?
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Mostly LT, I believe
he was injured last year, and Vollmer all but took his job…
I’ve seen on the Pats SB nation site, that most fans think Light is better tha Kaszur, who plays RT…
I think he could come in here, and challenge for a starting tackle spot from day one, and give the Chiefs 3 viable OTs without a draft pick spent on one this year
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
Why would NE trim Moss or Light?
Moss in particular is very productive and still dangerous, and with no cap, there’s no reason to cut him unless he’s just costing the team more in cash reserves than he’s worth. Usually teams don’t cut guys for worry of cash reserves, but rather because of cap impact. That’s a non-factor now, so it’s less likely a team will cut a guy IMO.
But the note about straight-up contract trades is very interesting. Trading players straight up for players, or players for picks, is much rarer than in baseball, and most of that is because of the accelerated cap hit that comes from the prorated portion of a signing bonus. With that factor out of the equation, hot damn, we could see some hot stove action in the NFL.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 18, 2010 2:08 PM CST reply actions
well...
teams can cut an “overpaid” player without worrying about the “cap hit” this year…
so, that’s the idea….there could be some dumping of big contracts.
Light seems to be the “odd man out” there, and they might not want to pay him according to his current deal… just to be a backup to Vollmer.
I’ve heard rumblings from the Pats fans/bloggers that they think he could be gone…
and, you know that if he leaves… he’s got an appointment with the Don
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
Can he play RT???
To me that’s the biggest question. He’s a very good player but, I don’t really see him being an upgrade over Albert on the left side. If he can dominate on the right side, he is well worth considering.
it's possible
or at least he could be that “swing tackle”.. or relegate O’Call to that position
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

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