Are you sure you want to go LB with our first pick?
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 4:48 AM CST
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Last year I was watching the draft alone because my friends had to work. I'm at home, hangin out with some pizza and my laptop on AP. The Chiefs needed linebackers badly. There was a report about Crabtree's dad wearing KC gear outside of the Music Hall in NY. Some sports writer said that KC was in love with Tyson Jackson, but few people took him seriously.
I thought for sure that had Aaron Curry fallen through the cracks, Kansas City would most defintely draft him. He wasn't proven in the blitzing department, but he was considered one of the safest players coming out of college, a sure starter that could adapt to the system quickly. At 6'3", 247 he was a big man that knew how to play football. He was a Pioli guy, someone that could be the leader on the defense and call the plays for them, making adjustments as seen neccessary. A Butkus award winner. Sure, there were a few concerns about his pass rushing abilities, but for the most part he was almost a complete player.
I personally thought we'd be taking either Curry, Crabtree or Monroe. When we drafted a defensive end out of LSU, I'm postiive I wasn't the only one who stared at the tv for a moment or so, then started yelling. Seattle didn't hesitate on taking Curry as everyone laughed at the Chiefs for taking Tyson Jackson.
A year later, people aren't exactly laughing at Kansas City anymore. Sure, Tyson didn't perform as well as the number three pick should, but that sure thing at linebacker didn't have the season he was expected to have. Curry was taken out on obvious passing downs, and was replaced in the standard nickel formation by Leroy Hill.
I'm not saying he is a bust by any means, but Curry was supposed to be a sure thing at linebacker. His first game he tore it up, but after that he just kinda disappeared. I'm terrified that we go McClain with our number five pick, and have the same thing happen. People were going crazy over Curry, a lot of people even having him go number one to the Lions. I haven't heard half the amount of hype for McClain as I did for Aaron Curry.
Sorry about the late night ramblings, but I just can't help but think about the Patriots linebackers these last few years. For the most part, their inside LBs have been older veteran players. I won't be upset if we go McClain (I love hard hitting LBs), I guess I'd just feel safer going Berry or Okung.
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The thing with Curry
To me he all the sudden was there. Throughout the season i’d only hear some talk of him and come draft day he was the best thing ever. With McClain he has been looked at all year and even last year so he may be a safer pick than Curry was. Although I am not a draft McClain no matter what, we would need pieces here for him and other prospects would need to have been chosen already.
There is a difference
Curry- physical freak, has all the major tools to potentially be a beast.
McClain- smart, very well rounded in all areas of linebacking, played in 3/4 in college while calling plays on defense. Studies film, basically a coach playing LB.
McClain is not gifted physically like Curry but he has great speed for being so big.
The big difference to me is McClain is a student of the game, he knows the 3/4 better than most of our own guys. He is a leader that can QB our defense.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 17, 2010 8:02 AM CST via mobile reply actions
We already got two "students of the game" with our 2nd round pick last year...
by groundedchevy on Feb 17, 2010 8:10 AM CST up reply actions
Not to hop on the McClain bandwagon...
But one of those “students of the game” is on offense, and the other is unlikely to be here for much longer.
What's wrong with that?
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 17, 2010 8:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm don't think we should draft a LB with our first pick
I was just pointing out that currently we have one on our roster on both sides of the ball. It could mean that Pioli and company value it more than be gifted physically, and are looking for more players that fit that role. It also could mean that they feel they have that on the roster and are looking for more physically gifted athletes. I think you go for a physically gifted freak at #5. You can always sign a vet for leadership, and to teach the youngsters. Granted they have to be some what a student of the game…I don’t want a Pacman on my team.
by groundedchevy on Feb 17, 2010 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
So you can only have one "student of the game" on either side of the ball?
How about 11 strong, fast, SMART, DISCIPLINED football players on each side?
Discipline?
That's overrated.
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
by BigRedChief on Feb 17, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Being "smart" implies that he doesn't have enough speed.
The implication is that being “smart” means that they are not very fast. I’m not judging whether that is right or wrong. I question how much of an impact Mt. cody had on McClain’s season. Without a monster in the middle taking on two blockers and opening up opportunities for McClain to make plays then I don’t think he’s a first round pick.
Mike Maslowski was a very strong and smart player but he constantly got torched when he was forced to drop into coverage. I’m afraid that the same would happen to McClain.
From the main FanPost, above.
Sorry about the late night ramblings, but I just can’t help but think about the Patriots linebackers these last few years. For the most part, their inside LBs have been older veteran players.
Those Patsies had the best D-Line and got famous when Ty Law was in his prime. This is the basis for a fundamentally sound defense. When that foundation is laid, championships flow from intelligence and
To be responsive to Ray, here, though, I’ve had the same thought about McClain, myself. Keep your LBs generally free of the trash, and the McClain’s have a way of emerging from an erstwhile undistinguished group of LBs. Fix DL and DB and maybe a Mays, Belcher, Williams, or Johnson (or all 4) suddenly play without any hesitations, their angles improve, and their drops into zone become more decisive and mindful of the 1s-down-marker and receivers in the pattern. The more the guys up front win their matchups, the more prescient the LBs behind them become.
by hmills110 on Feb 19, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think McClain's at least as physically gifted
Just not so much in the speed department. I do think he’s a much smarter player, and unlike Curry (or Tyson Jackson, for that matter), he was actually good enough to make an impact as a player in college.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
seriously, where is this "not fast" stuff coming from?
McClain will run in the 4.5-4.6 range at 250lbs… that’s damn fast
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
Oh, it's definitely fast
I just don’t know that he’s going to be as blazingly fast as Curry, who has embarrassingly good track speed. McClain plays as fast as Curry does on the field, and he’s bigger, stronger, smarter, and as I’ve said, actually made a huge impact when playing in college. The latter issue is vastly underrated by lots of amateur draftniks, because they kill sensibility by drooling over the big combine and workout numbers. But I’ll emphasize again what I was saying a year ago about Curry (don’t know if I said it on here, but I’ve said it on other sites at least): he didn’t really make much of an impact on the game whenever I watched Wake Forest, and here in ACC land (I live in Maryland), we get far more Wake Forest games than should be broadcast on TV.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
LBs tend to look good and learn sooner to play "smart" when the trenches are controlled by the fatties.
That’s the only thing about McClain. Like Manning, he plays like a genius, but others have set the table before him, with roast pheasant and good wine. Doesn’t mean he isn’t worth it, same as Manning is, but for a Manning (or a McClain?), you first set the table.
I do NOT want to see KC go that high for ILB, before the guys up front are keeping the field litter-free. You get that sequence wrong in your team-building plan and your LB struggles and tends to have an injury-plagued career. And I’m not at all sure that one of the current 4 guys in the middle, contending with Vrabel and Studebaker for minutes, with a bona fide rush OLB the highest you go @ LB in the draft does you more good.
All this being said, I appreciate the attention given to football IQ over freakish physical measurables @ ILB. Make your high-pick reaches for freakish talent at other positions, and bring in a soup of ILBs and let things simmer for awhile. Get those other position groups covered, and I think you FIND your solid LB corps out of ’most any 8 or 9 guys, including those already on-staff, that you bring in during OTAs and training camp.
Linebackers
I am really interested to see what happens with the linebackers this off season. Does the new defensive coaching staff think DJ can be the linebacker we always wanted him to be? I imagine Williams will be on the team unless we happen to get a trade offer for him. It seemed to me most of the time when Williams came out DJ went in, and when Mays went out Belcher came in. I always wondered why Williams and DJ weren’t on the field more together. I also am wondering about Studbaker. After Vrabel came back I was surprised he didn’t get a little more playing time. I don’t expect us to bring in any big name LBs this year. I expect our man focus to be NT, Oline, WR, and secondary (all 4 top priority).
WR
I guess WR/TE anyone who can run crisp routes and actually catch the ball. Maybe Bowe will actually take time to study the play book, and know what route is suppose to be ran. I bet Haley lays into him after watching tape.
by groundedchevy on Feb 17, 2010 8:06 AM CST up reply actions
LB, WR
The guys I see currently on the LB depth chart will mostly still be here next year, with one or two maybe pushed out, but from a direction most of us ain’t lookin’. Only I keep harpin’ on rush OLB in the current discussion, though others have in earlier discussions. A Terrell Suggs kind of player, with Vrabel mostly at ILB callin’ the shots, and takin’ his shots as he sees fit.
I think DJ, in particular, with Vrabel gettin’ in his ear, has his best shot, yet, to realize his potential.
Uh. WR.
I think they get a bit more aggressive with their WR pick, than where Lawrence was taken, certainly. I think there’s plenty of history to support the notion that if they get decent talent, they WILL develop it successfully. Already upgraded the WR corps, just by scrapin’ the barrel ‘n’ beatin’ the bushes. Think what’ll happen over time, with this crew…
There is one freaky WR in this draft...
and his name is Dez Bryant! Gotta have em.
I agree with you that NT, Oline, WR and secondary (safety in particular) are the biggest needs.
i say go LB only if we get a NT in FA
with a solid NT draft McClain and our defense is going to be very improved, bring back Vrabel in a LB/TE set and have him tutor McClain for a season while catching 5 TD’s on the year.
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
Anyone could read our defense last year
Our defense did not try to hide much last year . If we get a solid N T and disguise our defense a little more I think we could keep most of our defense and be ok .our #1 pick should be a young N T that will be here more than a couple of years . If we don’t get one I think that would be our worst mistake .
CHIEFS fan 4 life
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Feb 17, 2010 8:30 AM CST reply actions
Dan Williams or someone else?
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 17, 2010 8:33 AM CST up reply actions
Williams would be my pick
CHIEFS fan 4 life
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Feb 17, 2010 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
Cody if he is at 2a, it would be interesting if he is sitting there, or Troup in the 4th(?).
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
I would rather spend extra on bringing in a FA NT that can contribute right away
And then use a draft pick (other than our first rounder) to draft our “NT of the future”. Just because NT is such a need for us and such an important position in the 3-4 defense.
History has shown that it takes 2-3 years for a defensive lineman to fully develop, and although we are a fairly young team, consistent winners are built by an optimum ratio of veterans:developing players. It looks like it may be hard to acquire a NT in FA though. Fingers crossed.
if Cody is around at 2a or 2b
grab him, but if he is gone get Troup, and have him mature under Wilfork!
Regardless of who the Chiefs pick at #5 overall, Whitlock will call it the worst pick in the history of the Chiefs. Heres to hoping that #5 pick runs Whitlock out of town.....
I am starting to get the feeling that what makes sense for our team now....
…won’t make sense come draft day. I don’t think we take McClain or Berry and I can’t see Pioli dumping a bunch of money on Okung so we can move our very competent LT (Albert) to G or RT. I could see a trade down for more picks, and that is what I want, but I can also see a Haden or even a wildcard like Dez Bryant.
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
Obviously our activity or lack thereof in FA, trades, etc. will dictate our pick at #5
I agree with pretty much everything you said, but I can visualize Pioli drafting McClain. Not so much Berry, unless he plans on moving him to CB.
Haden is one of the few guys mentioned in the top five I would actually get mad to see KC take
I mean, other than a QB like Clausen or Bradford, I think I’d be most enraged about Haden. Of course, I said the same thing about Tyson Jackson last year. And I was indeed enraged, and remain so today.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Part of me wouldn't be so mad at us for taking Haden
I drool over shutdown corners like Champ, Asomugha and Revis. He could help us out so much….but the lack of a pass rush would basically nullify anything worthy of shutting down anyways.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
But Haden's not in the same league as Champ or Woodson
He’s more on par with maybe Cortland Finnegan, who is actually an excellent corner, but not an all-world guy like Champ and Charles were. You want an all-world guy if you’re drafting a corner in the top five.
Another thing to consider: if we’re using Curry’s rookie season as a warning against drafting a middle linebacker in the first round, then why not use Asomugha or Revis’ rookie seasons as cautionary tales against drafting corners in the first round? Neither one was very impressive as a rookie.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
You have to look at the value at the position
A shutdown corner is much harder to find than a good inside linebacker, especially With the style of defense well be playing.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 5:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not an apples-to-apples comparison
Look at the terms you used: “shutdown corner” and “good inside linebacker”
Haden’s not a shutdown corner (there are maybe one or two of those in the league at any given time), and McClain’s more than just a good inside linebacker.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
Haden did shut down his side of the field whenever he played though
In college, he was easily the best corner this season. He had a bit of trouble going up against the shifty, quicker recievers, but for the most part dominated almost everyone he came to play against. He’s extremely durable, only missing 3/40 games IIRC. I’m not lobbying for us to grab Haden because I don’t think that corner is a position of need right now, but I think he’s certainly as good as a prospect as Revis.
Look, when it comes down to it, there aren’t many people I would be mad about Pioli drafting this year. This is a very deep draft, and we can use our number five pick on a number of things (WR,ILB, OLB, NT, SS, CB, OT, OG, TE). I would just feel more comfortable going with a defensive back in Eric Berry, or an offensive lineman rather than jumping to inside linebacker.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
who's to say Haden's NOT a shutdown corner?
most people say he is
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
I don't care
I just want the us to get a pass-rusher, wide receiver, couple offensive linemen, nose tackle, and safety in no certain order. As long as we get those five players through the draft/free agency. I am happy. Just don’t screw up the first round pick. That’s I ask.
My gut tells me
that we are going to pick Berry, Bryant or McClain. Any of these 3 will help improve the team and we should be happy with any of them. This could and probably will change as we get closer to the draft. If we go LT it will be Bulaga. All the experts know less about who the Chiefs will take than we do. SP always does what he wants and not what the experts expect.
Thank you!
Finally a post about NOT drafting McClain, the second coming of Jesus! Curry is a fine example of a player listed as a sure thing. And thank you for the facts backing up Curry’s struggles last yr. Couldnt have said it better myself. All this talk of McCalin is a sure thing, a beast, a stud, a, here it comes, “game changer”. I want to throw up in my mouth. Protect Cassel! Protect Charles! Help our wr’s! Get us some more protection. NT helps lb’s. OL helps qb which in return helps wr’s. LB’s dont help anyone as importantly as def and off linemen help others. We need help there. Now I’m not sure Okung is the answer but…
I actually hope we are in position to trade down and acquire another 2nd rounder. I dont think any player at #5 is going to save us. We need multiple players. man, three 2nd rounders and we could trade up into the later part of the first round and still have a 2nd rounder left. Possibilites are endless. Here’s hoping to the draft going …Suh, McCoy, Berry or Haden, Okung and then us! with 1 or 2 of those qb’s available we could trade down! Here’s also hoping those 2 qb’s do well at the combine. Tebow too! if he does well someone wastes a pick on him in the 1st round!
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
I heard last night
that none of the top 3 qbs Bradford, Clausen or McCoy are going to participate in the combine
by badassz1987 on Feb 17, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
That's fairly normal
Top QBs rarely throw at the combine, and in the case of these three, each has an injury (McCoy-shoulder, Bradford-shoulder, Clausen-toe) that will keep him from being fully ready by the combine.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
They should all have their proday
Remember, Stafford didn’t throw at the combine last year either and he still went number one overall.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
they are all going to be there and participate
they just wont throw… the interview and physicals will be very important for their stock
* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters
I dont think its a fair comparison
to compare McClain to Curry because I think one of the only similarities they have is their athletic abilities. I could be wrong but I dont remember Curry being said to have the other intangibles that McClain would bring to the field
People act like Curry is evidence that outweighs all other evidence
And I couldn’t disagree with them more. Patrick Willis, anyone?
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe a better comparison would've been AJ Hawk
Also went fifth overall, and hasn’t had a good year since he was a rookie. DeMeco Ryans was drafted a whole round after him and has turned into a monster.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
I think Hawk has done pretty darn well at times
I think he’s actually underrated. Either way, Ryans is another example of how a linebacker can have a significant impact early in his career. What gets puzzling is when people somehow imply that going in the second round makes a LB more likely to be successful than going in the first round, when it’s actually an irrelevant factor at best.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
Not saying that a linebacker taken in the 2nd will be more useful than if taken in the first
Again, you have to look at positional values. Hawk hasn’t been a good linebacker since his rookie season. Like curry, he was considered a sure fire prospect, that eventually was being taken out on passing downs and the nickel formation. If you’re drafting an inside linebacker at number five, or even top ten or 15, you’re expecting them to be in on every kind of down, not just running downs.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 5:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So who says that can't be the case with McClain?
I mean, why can’t he stay in on passing downs? He’s certainly physical and fast enough to cover tight ends.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
And who says he needs to be out there all the time anyway?
The NFL has quickly gravitated towards situational players. We have 3rd down backs, short yardage backs, slot recievers, goal line recievers, blocking and recieving TEs, “pass rush specialists”, run stoppers, nickle and dime corners, etc… A player cannot be expected to be an all-purpose player and the ones that are, are elite and rare. It’s a chess game out there and you need to have options, if that means McClain sits on 3rd downs then so be it. Same could be said for Cody.
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
To be fair, you don't usually draft situational players at number 5
And I’m not saying that McClain can’t be in on passing downs at all, I’m just saying that value wise it proabably isn’t smart to take a linebacker at number 5 period. You can easily grab an inside linebacker to fill that void at a later time in the draft. I’m not knocking McClain at all, I really like him. I love hard hitting linebackers, and I love guys that sit down and pour over hours of tape. I just don’t agree with drafting an inside linebacker with our first pick.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
And DT was a Rush End in a 4-3
and a Rush OLB in a 3-4. Neither of which is an ILB.
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 17, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
Some inside linebackers can definitely be worth it
Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, and Brian Urlacher (who was actually more suited to sam, in my opinion), etc. all would have been, in retrospect.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
It's not so much that I'm comparing athletic abilities
More so hype, and the need for a middle linebacker at number five. He’ll get caught out of place and will struggle without a dominant NT to help him out. I just think we can pick up a serviceable inside linebacker later in the draft, or maybe even with the ones we have on the roster now.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
A serviceable player at any position can be had later in the draft, I'd say
So the objective has to be to take the player with the best odds of making the position a strength for the long term. I think McClain certainly meets that criterion.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldnt say curry had a disapointing year
61 tackles 2 sacks and 2 forced fumbles in 14 games
yeh you would like too see more tackles out of the number five pick, but seattle wasnt very good……I think he will only get better with experience……I would give up all of demorio’s tackle’s for the sacks and the forced fumbles
So you want a linebacker with -51 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 forced fumbles and you only want him to play 14 games? ( ;
My bold prediction and I think our best chance at moving down in the 1st. Bret Favre retires, Tavarris Jackson is not retained or leaves and the Vikings trade up, with our beloved Chiefs, for Jimmy Claussen.
WRITE IT DOWN!
Did you watch the games at all?
He had some decent looking stats, but he looked absolutely lost out on the field. He was supposed to be a good coverage linebacker, but he was getting burnt and caught out of place every game, multiple times.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 17, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Again, that doesn't have anything to do with McClain
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 17, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Still, it's a good post. Can't knock where ur mind was for doing this post.
I bet u could make a same argument for any position at some point. I don’t care who we draft as long as we get it done.
We were transitioning
to a 3-4 at the time, and found the best 3-4 DE lineman possible instead of a LB who probably wouldn’t fit in the 3-4. Sure he’s versatile but he was also compared to DJ and we already got one of those on the team, and he didn’t even start. How would Curry start if the guy he was compared to didn’t. I thought it was a smart decision on his part because just like DJ he hasn’t lived up to expectations. McClain on the other hand is a much better prospect, at least for the 3-4. He basically was a QB for a pro-style championship caliber 3-4 defense and so has experience already in it. His dedication to football is astounding and will contribute on day one. He will struggle though as long as we don’t have a NT.
Nice read
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 17, 2010 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
When it all comes down to it
I suppose that nobody is going to fit into this defense until a 3-4 NT is established. We take Berry or Haden without a pass rush and the recievers will get open. We taken McClain and he’ll be eaten by the blockers….
Not draft a LB with the #5 overall pick?
Look, this is what it comes down to. Derrick Thomas, number 4 overall pick in 89 by KC, gave the team immediate improvement and later became known as one of the best LBs to play the sport. Does that mean we should take McClain? Not necessarily, but the point is you can’t base a decision like that, because the LB from last year didn’t do as well as expected for his team. Should we take McClain? I for one hope we don’t, but not because Aaron Curry sucked it up last year. Simply because McClain is not worth a number 5 overall pick (unlike Derrick Thomas)
DT was an outside rushing linebacker
Not a middle linebacker. In the 3-4 there is a huge difference, and while inside linebackers are important, they aren’t nearly as important as the pass rusher.
by SoCalChief17 on Feb 18, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah Yeah Yeah
The point is you must make the judgment by the player, not by the output of someother player
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