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Lions DC Gunther Cunningham Is Keeping An Eye On The Young Chiefs

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Gunther Cunningham coached the Kansas City Chiefs defense from 2004-08 before moving onto the same position with the Detroit Lions.

Towards the end of his tenure with the Chiefs, he was quoted a few times as essentially blaming the team's youth (among other excuses) on his lack of results on the field.

That was nearly two years ago, so those players are growing up.

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Gunther said late last season of the exodus of Chiefs players that season, "I would like to be there to catch a lot of them, because I know a couple of those guys."

The Lions already claimed Turk McBride off of waivers.

Gunther said last year that he knows some of the Chiefs that were being shipped out upon the arrival of the new regime and said of them, "I really believed they were going to be good players, and I know I'm right about that."

Uh, Gunther? Your record as the Chiefs defensive coordinator the final five years were atrocious so I'm not putting much stock into your personnel evaluations.

Nicholas J. Cotsonika of the Detroit Free Press speculates DaJuan Morgan or Glenn Dorsey could be targeted by the Lions. The Chiefs would have a high asking price for Dorsey.

We previously reported that the Chiefs offered up Morgan in a trade to the Lions during training camp last year. Talks of moving Morgan apparently heated up again around the trade deadline as well.

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they’d give up a 2nd rounder for DJ if that’s the price KC puts on him?

by WtexKC on Feb 14, 2010 7:23 AM CST reply actions  

If we could get a 2nd for DJ i would be estatic

More likely though they wouldn’t offer a 2nd. A 4th is more likely, and if offered we should take it.

Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!

by nateforchiefs on Feb 14, 2010 7:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Except I don't think he wants DJ

because I have a good feeling DJ was a huge part of the YOUTH he was talking about.

by Claude! on Feb 14, 2010 7:33 AM CST reply actions  

I say theres no way we should trade Dorsey

unless we get a first for him, which won’t happen. I would trade Dj for a second rounder though(we could possibly pick up someone like Spikes).

by justinmayhugh on Feb 14, 2010 8:55 AM CST reply actions  

How does this guy still have a job....

You know what you’re going to get with him…a terrible defense, why wouldn’t the Lions take their chance on a young unproven guy that might make their D better, ratch than settle with an old proven loser?

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Feb 14, 2010 8:55 AM CST reply actions  

Look at the Chiefs D before and after Gun came back.

They got better every year with the exception of his last (Allen traded, and multiple injuries to LBs all season long). God forbid someone would want that.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Feb 14, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Pretty much.

At least better than what we had before he got here, and likely better than what we had last year.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Feb 14, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Few people have been as harsh on Gunther as me...

But I do believe he can be a successful D-Coordinator if he works under a coach with a similar mind set as him. Gunther wants to run a Rex Ryan type of attacking defense. I do not know much about Coach Swartz but if that is the game he likes to play and that is the type of players they look for then I don’t see why those guy can’t eventually put together a good Defense, of course they are in Detroit so its going to be harder there than in other cities.

Pitchers and Catchers report February 17th... And so begins my masochistic addiction.

by averagegatsby on Feb 14, 2010 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

I used to like Gunther...

But in the last few years, he’s become nothing more than an excuse-making asshole. Well, he was always an asshole…I suppose. The man takes absolutely no responsibility whatsoever for his teams performance on the field. It’s always someone else at fault.

I’ve become sorry the guy has a history here……and could give a shit what his opinions are of our team and our players.

by Scott B. on Feb 14, 2010 11:40 AM CST reply actions  

I'd take a draft pick for Morgan right now

sure, he has potential… but getting value for him would be great

* KC now has the best coaching staff in the league
* Pioli will make at least one trade in the offseason, and 2 trades during the draft
* I'd prefer "lightning and lightning" as opposed to "lightning and thunder" when it comes to RBs
* 9-7 is a real possibility in 2010 IF the Chiefs get 4 new starters

by stagdsp on Feb 14, 2010 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

Keep Morgan, trade Dorsey

Alot of draftmockers have possibly the Saints getting Dorsey for their #1 and #2 picks, also I can see Waters getting traded as well. I think signing Seymour for a couple of years, will provide better dividends than Dorsey, and lets face it, the Chiefs need upgrading pretty much across the board. Yes Dorsey improved, but I believe thats as good as it gets, being drafted as a 4-3 DT, not a 3-4 DE.

by gregorychief on Feb 17, 2010 6:03 PM CST reply actions  

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