Chiefs GM Weighs In On Kansas City's Best Barbecue Debate
by Joel Thorman on Feb 11, 2010 3:20 PM CST
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The debate in Kansas City has raged on for years: Who has the best barbecue?
I'm in the Oklahoma Joe's camp finding any excuse I can to make it down to the gas station (If you've been there, you know what I mean) and getting a Z-Man sandwich. Mmm...my mouth is literally watering as I type this. How great is it that a sandwich includes an onion ring on the top?
On other side of the fence, is someone like my mother (who is much shorter and thinner than I) that prefers Gates Barbecue, and specifically the burnt ends sandwich. She doesn't eat much barbecue -- apparently it's bad for you but I don't buy it -- but loves the burnt end sandwich.
Well, Mother, the Chiefs GM is on your side.
While "homeless" in a downtown hotel last year right after he and Todd Haley were hired, Scott Pioli said he discovered the burnt end sandwich.
"So one night," Pioli said last night on the fan forum, "one of the guys went to Gates Barbecue and brought back this thing called a burnt ends sandwich. I’ll tell you what, it was a special one. The first one was special, the second one pretty special. I actually caught Todd one night; he had literally gone through two and a half burnt ends sandwiches himself. He tried lying to me, saying that one of the other guys had eaten it."
Just wait, Mr. Pioli. Someday someone will run out and get you a Z-Man and you'll convert. I'm sure of it.
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Awesome
I ate at Gates while in KC and it was awesome stuff!! I just got a regular BBQ sammich but I wished I had gotten the burnt ends! I know what I am getting next time!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
If Quicks
is the same joint that has a location in Lawrence, KS than I feel dreadfully sorry for you
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by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 11, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Seems to be a reoccuring theme in the food industry
that locations other than the original aren’t up to snuff. I’ll give ya benefit of the doubt.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 11, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
I honestly don't know
i had never tried the Lawrence location. the only place i went to lawrence for was to see shows and Abe and Jacke’s Landing, and i don’t even know if that’s still around. it was a great place for shows.
That place is cool
Since I was a foreign language major, I volunteered with an organization that helped out international students at my college, and a bunch of Paraguayans took me to Abe and Joe’s (I think that’s the actual name, no?) for Mardi Gras in 2001. Well over a thousand young students, mostly South American, partying hard, drinking beer, dancing capoeira (which is awesome to watch, by the way), etc. All this in a non-smoking club in kickass Lawrence. I almost regretted not going to KU.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't been to Earl Quicks
But in BBQ, it makes total sense that the original would be the best. It’s all about the smoker (and sauce), and the older the smoker, the more flavor you’re going to get.
Bryant’s is another example, the Casino or Legend’s Bryant’s is a freaking joke. Almost like its not the same place.
I live down the street from it it's decent, but id much rather drive 5 more minutes to okie joes
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Woodyard BBQ is the place
I am such a fan of Woodyard BBQ that I’ve used it as my screen name. I have no affiliation with the place — but whenever I visit KC, it’s the first place I go. It literally used to be the woodyard that supplied all of the bbq pits with their wood. They would give away free bbq as a way to entice folks to buy their wood. Their smoking method became so popular that they opened a restaurant to supplement their wood sales. I used to think Oklahoma Joe’s was the best until I experienced Woodyard — they do not drown their meat in sauce the way that OKJ’s does. Their only appetizer: massive smoked chicken wings; their only dessert: smoked sausage. If any of you go, let me know what you think. I’m in Boulder, so I’m jealous as I can’t go very often. Enjoy!
I have recently been converted to the Burnt End sandwich recently
From the traditional beef on bun
...
I live in vegas now but ive been munching beef on bun with fries at Gates since about circa 87. I had no idea there was a burnt end sandwich…I gota fly back now and try it.
My vote for best…beef on bun at gates (but I will try this burnt end sandwich) and Burnt ends at Hawyards.
by MasterBlaster7 on Feb 11, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
OK Joe's
Without a doubt!!! I live in central IL and go to at least one Chiefs game each year. Every time I do I make it a point to eat as many meals there as I can. I only wish it were closer…
by ClydeTheGlyde on Feb 11, 2010 3:35 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yes and Rec'd
I’m only in K.C. two or three times a year, so I haven’t tried the others, I can’t, I want a Z-Man. Why try something else when what you have is so perfect.
This is the kind of stuff you guys should be polling in the off-season.
Oh, and if you're ever in St. Louis, get to Ms. Piggy's.
It’s really the only thing that compares
Memphis overflows with spots to buy world's best barbecue!
Its all good in the hometown of the King!!!
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
ballsy
I don’t know what is more controversial in this forum: undermining the sanctity of KC BBQ or taking a cheap shot at Lenny the Cool. Both should justifiably land you in very, very hot water. You’ve been warned Mr. Lanier…
Where's Memphis?
I didn’t know there was a part of Texas or Kansas City called Memphis. I know you’re not talking about the city, because all it makes is pork-based garbage!
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Lanier...
You should come up to Owensboro, KY the week before May Day in Memphis… 2 weeks of BBQ debauchery.
Go Chiefs!!!!
We have something in Paducah Ky
Called BBQ on the River…
I go every year a couple times. Atleast 50 BBQ vendors desert vendors…all kinds of food. 1000’s of people every day of it.
Best thing east of KC
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 11, 2010 3:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
iam
only 3 horus from paducah ky
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24
Oh, and is there any place that in KC that serves BBQ mutton?
Owensboro is the Mutton BBQ of the world.
Go Chiefs!!!!
That sounds pretty good
Actually, BBQ lamb seems like it’d be ideal. I’d like to find more BBQ bison options too, but of course, Maryland sucks for both BBQ and bison sources, so I’m effed in the A.
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by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
If you ever come down to KY...
There is all kinds of places that have Bison… Bison is more for grilling than BBQ in my opinion. Best Prime Rib ever was Buffalo in Jamestown KY. NOM NOM NOM
I’d be interested in BBQ ostrich… there is an ostrich farm about 30 minutes from here.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Next time I'm in KC
I will make sure that my high school buddy brings me Mutton instead of the beef.
Go Chiefs!!!!
BAN!
Wait can I do that…well at least FLAGGED!!!
WE lost to WHO?
by Cowboynchrist on Feb 11, 2010 5:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dont worry about Memphais BBQ...
Memphais and a lot of the south focus on pork. Kansas City BBQ focuses on beef. You cant really compare them. It is like comparing McDonalds to KFC. We have a championship Memphais BBQ here in Vegas. The pork on bun is awsome but a completely different beast than the beef on bun at gates. Hope that helped
by MasterBlaster7 on Feb 11, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely
It’s not quite Gates, in my opinion, but it’s absolutely awesome. Better than anything I’ve had outside of KC or Texas, and probably top 10% when it comes to places inside those two regions.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a big fan of the Arthur Bryants open faced burnt end sandwich.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
Damn you...
Thanks a lot, guys. Now I’m STARVING!!!!
All depends on what you want to get...
Ribs – Gates
Beef and Pork samich – A Bryants
Burnt Ends – A Bryants
Pulled Pork – Okie Joes
Bullshit microwaved trash with parsley on the plate at a shitty sitdown dump filled with stuffy pricks from JoCo – Jack Stack
Haha!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 11, 2010 3:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jack Stack
IF you are going to go, you have to go to the original in Martin City. It’s a night and day difference from the others. I will stand by this firmly.
Okie Joe’s is my favorite BBQ that I could eat every day, but the Jack Stack Martin City Burnt Ends or Prime Rib is about as good as anything I’ve ever had.
Don’t confuse it with the one in OP.
You take that back
The cornbake mash or whatever the hell it’s called is other worldly.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 11, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Oh la ti da. Make sure you tip the vallet and the guy at coat check...
No BBQ place should have waitresses, order at the damn counter and eat your food.
Actuall I would modify HIVs list -
Ribs – LC’s – hands down best ribs in KC!
Beef and Pork samich – A Bryants
Beef Sandwich – LCs, melts in your mouth…
Burnt Ends – LC’s, never had burnt ends that I really liked other than Danny Edwards until LCs
Pulled Pork – Okie Joes
WTF...havent any of you guys been to Hayward? Their burnt ends will change your religion
by MasterBlaster7 on Feb 11, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Iv'e had Hayward's on Antioch
it is good
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by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 11, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
All depends on what you want to get…
Ribs – Gates
Beef and Pork samich – A Bryants
Burnt Ends – A Bryants
Pulled Pork – Okie Joes
Bullshit microwaved trash with parsley on the plate at a shitty sitdown dump filled with stuffy pricks from JoCo – Jack Stack
I agree…mostly…the burnt ends from Smokehouse on North Oak are pretty incredible…that’s a close one in my mind.
Regarding ribs, if you’re in the mood for dry rub ribs, the ones from Smokin’ Guns on Swift in NKC are fall-off-the-bone fantastic
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
I experienced Zarda for the first time this past season ...
And, I gotta say, it was pretty much the best BBQ I’ve ever had. Ever.
Try the other one.
That’s the one we caught on our way in to Arrowhead from Topeka for the Denver game. I’m sorely tempted to make that a game day ritual, despite the poor outcome of the game (to me, it ain’t enough to warrant superstition until it happens three times).
Oklahoma Joes
I agree, Z man is possibly the best sandwich I’ve had.
First time I went to KC I asked my buddies cousin to take us to the best BBQ in KC. Well he took me like 5 blocks from his house to a gas station. I was kind pissed because I though he was being lazy and took us to the closest BBQ to his house. Well I was wrong, I always hit up OK Joes when I’m in KC.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Feb 11, 2010 3:50 PM CST reply actions
It has been my goal to try every BBQ joint in KC.
I have only lived here for about a year but this is my list thus far.
1. OK Joes
2. Arthur Bryants
3. LC’s BBQ
4. Earl Quicks
5. Big T’s
6. Gates
7. Rosedale BBQ
Also if you are ever passing thru Warrensburg, you have to stop by Perry Foster’s (Hwy 13 South and DD intersection). The guy is a dedicated Chiefs fan and I think that he knew DT. The bbq is amazing!!!
If you have any other suggestions, please let me know.
love Perry fosters
Went to cmsu for two years. Great place.
by BJ Kissel on Feb 11, 2010 4:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
My Top Five
1. Oklahoma Joes
2. Arthur Bryant’s
3. Gates
4. Danny Edwards’ Blvd. BBQ
5. Smokehouse (North Oak)
I haven’t tried Rosedale yet, probably next on my list to try. I was going to try LC’s but they recently had quite a few health code violations.
There's a new kid on the block
Backfire BBQ at the Legends. Great BBQ, and a lotta cool motorcycles to look at.
in jonesboro
we have couch’s bbq its no good no more but u tube couch’s bbq show the glory days there is poor bbq in jonesboro
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24
thanks randy
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24
In semi-related news, if any locals would like to join the KC Cheeseburger Club...
we’re now accepting new members.
Group of burger aficionados who are constantly searching for the cities best burger...
and constantly advancing the art of the burger. Next meeting is tomorrow at Jack Gage.
I agree with your mother
Gates’ burnt ends sandwich is the real deal.
Blame my wife!
Waiting until August 2010
AGREED
The lady at the counter yelled out – May I Help You! I ordered Burnt Ends only cuz the 2 people in frot of me ordered it (my first time). BEST EVER!
by chiefsfan62 on Feb 11, 2010 6:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
you know.....
If you can get to the black girl before she yells “Hi may I help you!”…..your meal is free
by MasterBlaster7 on Feb 11, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Question:
What do you guys consider the ultimate single menu item by which to judge BBQ restaurants? To me, it begins and ends with brisket, although my favorite is beef ribs (they’re very hard to find, though, so it’s not appropriate).
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 3:56 PM CST reply actions
I don't eat pork at all--it's disgusting!
Beef ribs are enormous, and if you can find a place that does them right, they’re super-tender too. But they don’t make them in KC; they only make the pork ones there, as far as I know.
My idea of heaven: a bucket of cold weissbier and a full slab of beef ribs.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
nah, a lot of places in KC serve beef ribs.
usually called crown or king ribs.
i don’t care for them, too fatty. baby back is all i’ll do.
Your heaven sounds awesome....
….Except for the annoying Texas games going on in the backround. ( ;
The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far is as needed?
I didn't even mention the Texas games
But somehow you knew. Nice shootin’, partnah.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
I have had a several weeks to think about the 0:01 that saved your bacon.
Great, here come the tears again.
The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far is as needed?
Well, the chance at revenge comes soon enough
And it’ll be against the true sophomore QB who played most of the BCSCG as a true frosh. I think the blueprint for attacking him is pretty clear, unless the 2010 line is greatly improved.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Hahaha... Revenge is ours!!!!
The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far is as needed?
I agree with the Beef ribs
I was stationed in Fort Worth back in the early 80’s.
When we had a little extra money there was a BBQ place at 183 and Camp Bowie. Me and My wife would get a slab of beef ribs, I ate most of em Tender and not greasy sauce was good and then I would lay on the floor of our apartment for a few hours in awesome agony. Sweet
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 11, 2010 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
That gut-busting agony is awesome
I had my surgery after my med-evac, so I can’t pack away a full slab in under a half-hour anymore, but it’s still bliss as I lose my dignity and my wife’s respect even in front of people who throw peanut shells on the sawdust-strewn floor.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Pig's a filthy animal
I don’t eat filthy animals.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Rat might taste like pumpkin pie, but I'll never know...
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't the burnt end the burnt end of the brisket?
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 11, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Ya well I live in Salina and we just got a Hog Wild Pit BBQ.....
So now we're big time!
We do have Hickory Hut and it’s alright…. if you like KC Masterpiece sauce (they can tell me it isn’t KCM but I tell you they are lying).
The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far is as needed?
Went there today...Hog Wild ...
I admit that was the closest thing to KC bbq I’ve had in Salina….I agree about The Hickory Hut…Course I LOVE the Hickory Huts beans!!!
WE lost to WHO?
by Cowboynchrist on Feb 11, 2010 5:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
YYYYUUUUUMMMMMM those beans are about the best food you can find in S-Town....
….I would take a quart of that over ANYTHING else in this town.
The question is not how far. The question is, do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far is as needed?
I was actually gonna
start a thread like this because i plan on going to a game in KC this year coming and had no idea where to go for KC BBQ. I guess its like when people I talk to ask me where to get the best cheesesteak, everyone has their own opinion
I had a lot of tips on where to go for good cheesesteak in philly
And the first place I was told was terrible when I tried a chain in a western suburb, but awesome when I went to the original location downtown a few months later. I mean it was killer. Best regional fare I’ve had in the US, other than BBQ in KC and Texas, which shocked me.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
You gotta make the rounds...
Arthur Bryants on Brooklyn
Gates anywhere but I prefer the one on Linwood
Jack Stack in Martin City (Best BBQ baked beans)
Oklahoma Joes in Merriam
Almost as blasphemous as the Memphis comment earlier!
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
It'd be like saying Starbucks has the best coffee.
Such blasphemies shall not be endured!
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
Dude
I live up here in Minnesota where its based and I won’t go near the place. I moved here from KC back in 1999. I used to get the Gates mixed plate (with those incredible fries) every Saturday. Man I miss that. I’m stuck now hauling bottles of Gates Original Classic back with me when I visit and wearing out my smoker in the dead of winter. Did a bacon stuffed brisket for the Super Bowl. It lasted about ten minutes once my friends got their hands on it.
I grew up off of 21st and Vine and have been hooked on Gates and Bryants for as long as I can remember. Bryants ribs with Gates sauce would be phenomenal.
Back in the 80's I would get some double shifts
At dinner we would get some Bryants wrapped in that awesome Brown paper.
We would chow down and be so stuffed then do some work and come back to the shop and that smell was almost hideous would permeate the shop. Then we would do it again next time :)
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 11, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
If You're Ever in Austin, TX...
Try The Saltlick. You have to go to the one in Driftwood, Texas, about 10 miles outside of town (same reason as the complaints above about KC’s successful joints then trying to go upscale). It’s located in a ranch-type house. They have more of a syrupy/gravy type barbeque that is pretty awesome.
And… they have an all you can eat special.
AND… if that wasn’t enough, it’s in a dry county so they allow you to BYOB. People come in with coolers and kegs.
Anyone remember the 1 page special the Star did on KC barbeque joints? The one with the full page of logos? I’ve still got it framed down in Austin.
Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.
I'm def trying that next time I'm down there
You’re probably the 10th person from down that way to tell me about it. Must be legit.
They just showed The Saltlick on the food network maybe like a week or two ago on the show, “The Best Thing I Ever Ate”
They usually show it on ESPN when College Gameday is in Austin on Saturdays
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by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
I love the Salt Lick
For this year’s BCS Championship game, we ordered two Thurman’s pride briskets from the Salt Lick, and we served only Texas (mostly Shiner) beer at our house. Wifey made Texas cole slaw and beans. Sure, UT lost, but I don’t blame the cuisine.
Last November was the first time I’d gone to the Salt Lick in Driftwood, and it was totally worth the trip. Of course we forgot that people had warned us that it was BYOB, so I sped over to that Bubba’s Gas Station or whatever that’s out past the Hindu temple, stocked up, and sped back. Live music in the waiting area outside, great food, and an amazingly unique sauce. It was so good that this one trip was enough to convince us to order our championship game brisket from there.
Another thing not to miss: Sunday brunch at Stubbs. Absolutely awesome. And when we’ve gone, there has been gospel blues playing in the indoors part, and my Texas family has always said that listening to gospel while chowing a barbecue brunch buffet counts as church in Texas.
There are obviously some other very good BBQ places in the Austin area, but those two are some of my favorite experiences.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
It's an experience
If you’re there on a weekend, go for a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. If there’s a line they often have someone playing music out front while people wait to be seated. And… be sure to bring the beer.
Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.
Born and Raised in KC
The BBQ thing comes up quite a bit. I want everyone to really think about their love of BBQ and whether or not that makes you think every single BBQ is good. BBQ is hard to mess up, however there are waaaaaaayyy to many places that are considered good. Some of these places are a joke. BBQ sauce must ave a shitload of sugar and fat because thats about the only thing keeping some of these joints open.
So much goes into an independent BBQ joint
tradition, location, price, decor…like you said BBQ love does hide a lot of flaws, it’s a very “memory emotional” food…and that’s why it’s fun. i don’t like Bryant’s, but i’m not going to bag on some guy who loves it, it gives them an emotional response.
i’m just glad i’m from a city that gives so many options and when people ask me to a BBQ, i’m treated like royalty, bc i’m from KC…like i know how to recreate that KC food magic.
Ok i get that
But if I were to open a corner shop and sell roasted rat and put BBQ sauce on it with fries it would sell. Then the next you know its someone’s “favorite” then we have t shirts with quirky sayings, then we are part of the crew and people say we’re “pretty good”. Wait a minute here I gotta a good idea.
the famous daves comment earlier kinda proves my point.
If you put enough salt, sugar and fat together it will sell regardless if its really crap.
why does that matter?
if someone likes to eat roasted rat, let them eat roasted rat. if you don’t, then don’t.
Sweet BBQ is overrated!
If you look at the ingredients on a store-bought bottle and see sugar or corn syrup as a top ingredient, move along and find a real sauce!
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by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
I've had plenty of Memphis BBQ
Neelys, Rendevous, etc. Good stuff. I’ll eat that too in a heartbeat. There’s lots of excellent stuff nationwide. The only thing I couldn’t get into was the mustard based sauces. That just seem wrong.
please post a new story
every time i refresh this page and this story is on top i get hungrier
Didn't read the other comments bc there is only one true BBQ joint in KC
Arthur bryant’s. Hands down kock you in the balls good
lc’s comes in second
by 8k1c6 on Feb 11, 2010 4:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I would flip that...
Been eating at both Bryant’s and LC’s for YEARS AND YEARS – LC’s is far more consistant then Bryant’s, when Bryant’s is good there is none better, but for Ribs, burnt ends or a straight beef sandwich I won’t go anywhere else other than LC’s… Bryant’s Beef/Pork Combo is to die for though… mmmmm….
Gates gets my sauce award
Their pork has some good flavor also, but I prefer OkJ’s meat overall.
Bryant’s I just can’t get past the sauce. Way too much vinegar and way too salty.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius
I love Gate's sauce.
A friend of my sister’s brings some back every time he goes home. I can’t wait till we go to KC for a game in the next year or two so I can gorge on BBQ.
In my experiences Dreamland in Tuscaloosa has some of the best beef spareribs and pork ribs.
Here on the East Coast, www.buzandneds.com is a local treasure. Their brisket sandwich is top freaking shelf.
I'm sad.
Down here in Orlando, I don’t get any decent BBQ. Just nowhere open that actually does it the way that Gates, Or OKJ’s or Bryant’s used to do. Down here, people think that Barbecue means Sonny’s or Smokey Bones. The only way I can get decent Barbecue is to grab some pork shoulder from the store, go out back, light a fire, and get the smoker going. Belive me, when I come up this season for a game, I’m going to hit like, every BBQ joint in town. I will eat ribs for desert. I will eat Pulled Pork for breakfast, and I will put a beer/bbq sauce IV drip right into my system.
by BetterRedThanDead on Feb 11, 2010 5:20 PM CST reply actions
I can't decide which place is my favorite.
I’ve probably been to Arthur Bryant’s the most.
Anyone here been to Sneads out by Belton? Went there a few months ago and it was pretty good..
Any mention of Oklahoma Joe's makes me depressed.
I lived probably 4 blocks away from “the gas station” my entire childhood and in to my 19th year of life. Now I’m on the other side of the country and I just think to myself that I could have eaten there so much more often =(
Ya'll know the only difference in KC and Memphis Barbecue?
KC wants to be called Memphis also!!!
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
Lanier...
you dyslexia is getting better…but you switched the cities there…but good job on trying….
Everyone should aplaud him for his effort overcoming this serious condition. You know if he really meant it…I’d hate to think the consequences.
WE lost to WHO?
by Cowboynchrist on Feb 11, 2010 6:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well, at least you're not propagating the falsehood that BBQ was invented in Memphis...
So you have that going for you today. ;)
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
I hate you joel
I hate every single one of you… bastards…. Im stuck in the middle of the damn mojave desert, 30 minutes from the nearest walmart or even the nearest applebees or STARBUCKs. fuck… damn california and your no good food… grrrr… now I have to go find my dinner, and it sure as hell aint gonna taste as good as I want it to now
by MarineChiefsFan on Feb 11, 2010 7:48 PM CST reply actions
I agree
Damn all you for making me want something I can't have right DAMN now
Perfectly acceptable resonse to the BBQ Question
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 11, 2010 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
u take the waves with u...
or in ur case, the bbq. if u cant find a joint there, u have to make it yourself. plus, u can always have sauces from KC joints shipped to u. personally, i load up on enough to carry me through for a couple of years whenever i make it to kc. its a must living in southwest colorado.
by MountainManMike on Feb 11, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Ouch. That sucks.
What base/camp/fort?
I think California had the best overall cuisine of anywhere I’ve lived, including Europe, but then, I lived on the Monterey Peninsula.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 11, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
MCAGCC, where marines go to train for iraq and afganistan
Im abut a four hour drive away from LA, straight east
by MarineChiefsFan on Feb 11, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, 29 Palms, right?
Incidentally, if you want to see the worst movie by a solid director that I think I’ve ever seen, watch Twentynine Palms. Hideously bad, and I’m often one to give indie films a little slack.
Ft. Irwin is just a little north of you guys, and man, that place is a hole! The Army’s National Training Center is there, and my signals intelligence company was the only one for my entire division, everyone in my company had to be there for all three month-long rotations at NTC every single year. That meant that 25% of any given year, at least in the years prior to our invasion of Iraq, was spent supporting our brigades in that effing desert. Three solid months, no family, no running water, living out of tents, wearing body armor every second of the day, and this was before going to Iraq for 12+ months. Man, I have to wonder (a) why I got the hell out of the tactical world as soon after Iraq as I could, and (b) why I got the hell out of the Army as soon as it was time to rotate back to the tactical world. No thanks…I’d like to see my kids more than eight or nine months out of every two years.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 12, 2010 7:22 AM CST up reply actions
RED HOT & BLUE
In Joplin mo best bbq around I lived in K C for ten years. I worked at gates bbq this beats them hands down .
CHIEFS fan 4 life
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Feb 11, 2010 9:37 PM CST reply actions
ok here is the list for best BBQ in Kansas City/World
the best overall BBQ is Jackstack
Gates meat is too tough, LC’s is a rat hole that copied gates and Bryants.
I do like bryants meat, but their sauce is terrible.
The best sauce is Rosedale’s, The best Chicken is Chuckwagon. when K.C masterpiece was open it was comparable to Jackstack.
any other BBQ like nasty ass Zarda’s and Quicks are not worth even being in the conversation.
Now if you have the money and want to splurge, try the prime rib at Jack Stack then you will know what it is like to have a taste of heaven in your mouth.
Not as well known:
As far as teh well-known places go, I like OK Joe’s and Jack-stack is a close second, but there’s a VERY good mom-and-pop place in Belton (south of KC) called Oden’s, that in my opinion put’s a lot of the well-known places to shame.
Sorry LC fans...
But I just heard this on KSHB tonight. Never got a chance to eat there but maybe that’s for a good reason. But if you’re ever in the Lee’s Summit area there’s a little place called Holy Smokes right off of 50hwy just before the 3rd street exit. I recommend the ribs, brisket, and the Poor Rick sandwich.
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