AP Interview: Wes Bunting Analyzes the Chiefs' Draft Interests, Part One
by Matt Conner on Feb 1, 2010 1:27 PM CST
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One of my favorite go-to guys for NFL Draft news and analysis is Wes Bunting from the National Football Post. He's been a writer for various sites, including Scout.com, and his growing stature is for good reason - as he's usually spot-on. We recently asked Wes for his analysis of some of the Chiefs draft interests.
Here in Part One, we talk a bit more about the Chiefs choices in the beginning of the first round. Tomorrow in Part Two, we talk a bit more about second round prospects and individual players, including Vladimir Ducasse, Golden Tate, Jordan Shipley and much more.
AP: The number five position in the draft is where the Chiefs sit in the first round. The guys who would really help most - McCoy, Suh, Berry - might be gone. If that's the case, is there someone really worth taking in that slot? Obviously there are the safe choices of an offensive lineman, but I'm curious if there's someone else we should be considering?
Wes Bunting: Well, after Suh, McCoy and Berry, Russell Okung's a pretty safe pick. Sure, he might not be the sexiest of guys, but honestly Branden Albert was one of the highest rated guards I'd seen and yet he hasn't yet had the type of career because he's be a run-of-the-mill tackle. You'd be surprised how quickly that offensive line would improve if you got a legit offensive tackle in there and kick Branden Albert inside. Some good things could happen.
Dez Bryant could still be around, and he's a dynamic playmaker. Rolando McClain, a linebacker, is as good of a prospect as there is, Matt. Do you want to take a middle linebacker that high? Maybe, maybe not. But he's the type of guy who can anchor a defense and a really talented player. Those are three guys I'd keep an eye on.
More after the jump:
AP: If Aaron Curry graded out ultimately as the fourth overall pick in last year's draft, how does McClain compare? Is he worth taking that high as well?
Wes: Oh, absolutely. I'd put McClain significantly higher than Curry to be honest.
AP: Really?
Wes: Yeah, he's just that good.
AP: What about Anthony Davis vs. Okung?
Wes: I think there's three guys at that spot. You have Okung, Anthony Davis and Bryan Bulaga. I think the safest is Okung. I think the guy that could end up being the best with the highest ceiling is Anthony Davis. I think he also has the biggest bust potential. And then if you're looking for a guy to get out in space, Bulaga is a nice pick, too. Right now I have Davis a little bit ahead of Okung, just because I like his upside and I think he plays with a little more power, but that's just the way I see it. I think Okung is gonna be a really good left tackle in the NFL, but from an upside standpoint, Davis is a bit better.
AP: You mention Dez Bryant and that's not someone we've even considered in the Top Five and I've never really seem him mentioned around those parts in any mock draft or commentary. How does he grade out compared to last year's top 10 guys taken like Michael Crabtree?
Wes: Oh, yeah, he's definitely better. He's better than Crabtree and, of course, Darrius Heyward-Bey is a joke and a half. He's a powerful route runner. He's not going to stopwatching at 4.55. He's probably a little lower at 4.5. But you can't bump him. He's got suddenness. He's a sharp route runner. He does a great job in tight areas creating initial separation for himself and then he absolute meathooks for hands. He plucks the football out of nowhere and then Sterling Sharpe's it up the field. He's so tough to bring down.
He's not quite as dynamic and I don't want compare anyone to Andre Johnson because he has such vertical speed, but Bryant can go down the field to make a play and attack the football at the highest point. He's such a clean route runner for his size and accelerates out of his breaks well. He's just a big time guy and I like him more than Crabtree to be honest. He's just really good. And if he checks out from a character standpoint, he can come in and be a number one pretty early. He's by far the head of the class.
AP: Since we're looking at some possible safety help, how high regard should we have for Taylor Mays at this point?
Wes: Honesty, it's not even a comparison to Eric Berry. I'm not feeling Taylor Mays at all. He's not even the best safety at the Senior Bowl. I think Nate Allen's a little better than he is and guys like Chad Jones and Morgan Burnett that have come out as juniors and I'm not a big Earl Thomas guy, but you have all these juniors coming out and I think Taylor Mays is a guy who could see his draft stock fall into the second round, to be honest. He really wasn't impressive at all this week.
AP: Is that more of a name pick from his time at USC, then?
Wes: He's 6'3", 230. He's gonna run 4.39 or 4.40 in the 40, so he's a big size/speed guy where some NFL team will think they can clean up his footwork and can make him a more instinctive safety. I think Berry's the head of the class. Then I like Nate Allen, as I said, Morgan Burnett, Chad Jones. But I'd stay far away from Mays in the first round.
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+Chambers
if only our QB had enough time for them to get open….
by chiefsandcigars on Feb 1, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
he had enough time the last 8 games
But, Bowe was out and Chambers wasn’t open enough.
I think that one more good WR could make the difference, IF all of them can be on the field at the same time
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 1:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
could agree IF
we picked up an upgrade at C either in FA or draft
by chiefsandcigars on Feb 1, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
yep
I would draft a center for sure, and probably a guard
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 2:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Or, Pouncey, can't he play both?
If he’s the only OL we take and the rest of the draft is spent on defense/skill guys for Weis., I wouldn’t be too upset
That, my friends, is good talent evaluation.
Call me crazy, but I think that might be related to why they are a perennial playoff team.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
2 of those 1st rounders were somebodies elses pick
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by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 1, 2010 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Dez Bryant is an interesting thought
I might be a little partial, but I think suddenness is a good quality. ;)
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
by Sudden on Feb 1, 2010 1:45 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
So McClain > Curry AND Bryant > Crabtree in the same post? Come on
Its easy to hate on Curry now after an average rookie season, but EVERYONE was high on him, saying he was the best player in the draft.
And Bryant, who was suspended, checks out on character? I know the circumstances of the suspension, but the is still a big asterisk there since he didnt play a lot of his last year in college.
I hate when “draft analysts” always say things like “this is the best draft ever” and “these guys are so awesome, way better than last year”, etc etc.
by Boots 58 on Feb 1, 2010 1:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I see he says "if he checks out from a character stand point"
So my bad there, but I still don’t agree to his complete awesomeness
i agree Boots
It’s hard to get excited about guys when 3 of them are all better than anyone in there position last year… and last year those guys were better than the guys the year ahead of them… and those guys were better than the guys from 3 years ago…
I got what you’re saying and I agree. By the way, next years draft guys are going to be better at their positions than this years.. check it then.
Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.
to temper that...
I just don’t think Bunting is out to say every current guy is better than every past guy. Legitimately, everyone loved Curry’s intangibles and workout. The guy was simply a beast. But there were some misgivings about taking him that high and I thought it was worth asking compared to those top players from last year.
I also was a big surprised about Dez Bryant grading better than Crabtree, but then again, who knows. I guess we’ll see, but I think he’s right about McClain.
Donno bout the receivers,
But I too think he is right about mcClain……would love to see him in chiefs red and gold if we are tehre at 5. My order is Berry McClain….I still think Albert can bea solid left tackle, I think this year just rocked him a bit and he will be back next year with a year under his belt playing at a fit weight, and I really believe losing the weight will help him from the injury standpoint. Long sotry short, I think our O-Line can become respectable with a center taken a little later in the draft, and some guard help as well, no reason to burn another high pick there, especially with someone special like McClain sitting there, or I see him as special.
well...
McClain IS a better FIT than Curry… Curry was said to be versatile, but not perfect for the 3-4…
McClain is an IDEAL ILB in this defense… he’s doing it now…AND he has the measureables as well.
There were plenty of questions about Crabtree last year, so its not a reach to say someone could be better
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-Big Tom Callahan
by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 1:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Most of that was due to his speed and injury
I don’t think Bryant is better than Crabtree coming out, no way. Bryant might time better, but he isn’t a better prospect.
I do think we have a better shot at drafting Dez Bryant than Eric Berry, but we could have had Crabtree last year and went with DE. I think we will stick to the defense this year and get McClain. We need a QB on defense and McClain would be that guy from day one. Nick Saban connection (as I have been preaching for the last few months)…just makes too much sense. If I recall I was one of the first to pilot the McClain bandwagon, well before the NC game.
Get a quality nose (Wilfork preferred) and a great ILB (insert McClain) and our defense will be leaps and bounds ahead ot what it was last year. Factor in Crennel calling the shots, another year under the belt for Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Brandon Flowers, and Brandon Carr…Jarrad Page and Mo Leggs back from injury.
We could have a VERY solid defense next year.
There was a lot of people who thought that Crabtree was a system receiver coming out of that pass happy Leech offense.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Well said stagdsp
Plus, when you add the football IQ and leadership, McClain is the best choice for the Chiefs. I have him rated above Berry for us.
Merlinnj
It was a weak suspension...
It wasn’t something like dealing drugs or fighting or armed robbery…. he talked with Deion Sanders often… big deal.
Man crush on Eric Berry.
To you and I....no big deal
To someone about to give this guy a multi-million dollar contract? might be a bigger deal. Not to say they won’t take him if he checks out. But its something to look into.
I agree
that Curry was regarded higher last year. As an inside linebacker though, McClain is the better prospect for sure. I never liked Crabtree, so I agree with Bryant being better than him as well.
From what I've seen on Bryant
is that he’s not the epitome of a #1 WR, but a strong #2. Cincinatti did pretty well with two high level #2 WR by the name of Chad Ochocinco and TJ Houshmanzadehgadzuntite… I don’t know much about him other than what I’ve read though. So, whatever.
So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.
You think Chad Ochocinco is a #2?
No way. Quickest off the snap in the league by far and is one of the top route-runners in the league.
Bryant is a playmaker, but I still don’t think he was anywhere near where Crabtree was coming out. He hasn’t played football for how many months? Character concerns? Too many question marks for me, and probably too many for Scott Pioli…especially when we have plenty of other holes to fill.
I do think Bryant is a #1 receiver though, and we do need a legitimate #1, but I think a slot WR is more vital to this offense (the Pats last true #1 before Randy Moss was who?….Terry Glenn?). Bowe is a #2 at best, same for Chambers, but I think we can make due for now if we can get a slot that can 1) get open and 2) catch the football.
Chad Johnson (yes Johnson)
Is flat out freaking fast too, quite possibly even top 10 or so in the league.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
No
that’s according to Walterfootballs scouting report on Bryant.
Like I said, I don’t know anything about him other than what I’ve read on him. Don’t get to catch a whole lot of college football when you don’t have cable.
So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.
If McClain is higher rated than Curry, and Bryant is higher rated than Crabtree, I’d have to say Berry, one of those 2, or NT Dan Williams, who will be this years Fast Riser, like Tyson Jackson was last year, will be our pick.
We’d be stupid to draft a LT. I guess Bunting is another one of those guys who didn’t watch the Chiefs late, and is just going by stats.
True
This was essentially a second rookie season for Branden Albert in a brand new blocking scheme. He played very well the last part of the season and did enough for me to give him another year at that position. Evidently Bunting is forgetting we already have a Pro Bowl LG in Brian Waters, who can get the job done for now.
I am getting tired of seeing these mock drafts with the Chiefs picking Okung. These same mocks had Eugene Monroe as our pick last year at this time…didn’t happen then and won’t happen now.
by Nick Britt on Feb 1, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Like most of the people Im not crazy about going for a LT, but really its probably the best pick.
Great teams are built starting with the lines, and if you can take this O-Line and make it great by improving 2 spots with one player then it really does make a really good pick.
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But you’re weakenning 2 spots by taking a Rookie LT who won’t be as good as Albert, and shifting Albert to a new position that he hasn’t played in the NFL.
by dablueguy on Feb 1, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Amen to dablueguy...and rec'd
Leave Albert for another year.
Thats not necessarily true though
There have been pro-bowl rookie tackles in the past, and its not that hard to believe that since Albert was a pretty good guard in college that he could just pick right back up, elite talent is elite talent.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Okung doesn't look anything like an elite tackle
If Jake Long, Joe Thomas, or some other dominant LT was sitting there at #5 I would be all for taking him, but that wasn’t the case last year nor this year.
I haven't read anything that says Okung isn't elite.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed Anthony Davis as he said is the "Elite" left tackle in this draft but he is a gamble.
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
Wes Bunting had a write up on Okung during the season
saying he was overpowered in some plays by the bull-rush.
its just that shuffling the whole line...
Could cause All of them to struggle with a transition, and one ore more of them may fail at their new position.
I saw a line that got steadily better in 09, and I would want to build on that by adding a center and/or guard from the draft, and a good OT prospect to develop….
NOT blow a top 5 pick on a LT and hope half of my existing line could learn new positions to accomidate him
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 2:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
traditionally investing in the Top LT is the safest pick
and safe picks are hardly blowing picks
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
it is only a safe pick
IF your team NEEDs a new LT…
Which, I would argue KC doesnt
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by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 2:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
its just that you can upgrade 2 positions by doing so.
Im not saying I would take him, just saying that I would be okay if they did.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
i hear ya
But. My point is that it MIGHT not be “upgrading miltiple positions”
Shuffling the line could do more harm than good
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 3:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well if I were a GM
I would never EVER take a Safety or WR in the top 10, not unless I am already a SB quality team that happens to have a top 10 pick. Im sticking with the idea that great teams are built starting at the ball and moving out. And since this team has multiple holes I am not going to use that pick on a “skill” player.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
first off no way berry goes number one no way
The guy is a safety. No way he goes number one which means he’s going to the chiefs. And even then pioli would b out of his skull to get a saftey that early who knowq let the mock drafters talk all they want. I just hope we get someone who kicks ass day one.
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by sexassassin on Feb 1, 2010 4:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Would Albert care to move back to LG if we did take Okung/Davis?
And what about Waters? Do coaches address these questions before the draft?
Sure they do.
Now, these “draft experts” move people around all the time on the lines. It’s partially because they haven’t seen them play very much, just repeating things they’ve heard.
Sure, Albert played LG. Sure, Waters has played C. That means jack when it comes to who we draft. If Pioli’s happy with them where they are, then they’ll stay. We (likely) won’t know that until draft day.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
Robert Gallery was indeed the safe pick
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
I didn't say every LT was as good as billed...
but 90 percent (or more) are, unlike the 50 percent (or less) of WR’s.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
the same thing can be accomplished
by drafting a LG in a later round….then move Waters to Center. guess what? that improves 2 spots with one player and doesn’t require a 1st round pick.
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
by chief Stevie_k on Feb 1, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
Has anyone that actually matters talked about moving Waters to Center?
I hear about it all the time on Arrowhead Pride, but last I checked, bloggers can’t make personel decision.
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
It seems like a good idea in theory...
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
So does communism, dating 21 year olds and the premise to the movie Idiocracy
Ohhh Brett...One more year! One more year! One more year!
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
well at least idiocracy was funny.. .Kind of
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
I'll give you "kind of"
Mike Judge + that cast = should have been much better.
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but I think he had to make a lot of changes to the movie because of
corporate fall out due to several companies being flat out mad and offended how their company was depicted
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
We are closer to a wold like "Idiocracy"'s that you might think.
Seriously, it’s disturbing.
So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.
I saw it as closer to a documentary than a comedy
we are so close, its scary!
by chiefsandcigars on Feb 1, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Found it
http://www.zimbio.com/Brian+Waters
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Its just that the guys says he is a center when he is not...
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
when waters originally came to KC, that was the position he was going to play.
also, he is getting old and this season started to wear him down.
furthermore, you can direct that to average….unless he is assuming waters will be traded, his remark also infers a move (as i doubt albert would move to the right side).
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by chief Stevie_k on Feb 1, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Q: How many head coaches have the Chiefs had since Brian Waters last played center?
First to answer gets a cookie.
The whole Waters-to-center movement started in KC sports radio with Tim Grunhard. Won’t happen.
yeah, i dont see it either
Though, I think he DID get some snaps at center in training camp…
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
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by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 2:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
will waters be on the team next year??
i keep bringing up this idea. im pretty sure waters is a UFA this season and has hired an agent prior to this year. if you recall, he didn’t get along with haley and also skipped out on the pre-season mini camps. he might not be a “right 53” type of player!!!!
somewhat viable question
I dont’ think he’s a FA… and all Haley did all season was praise Waters’ leadership.
I think he’s back, or traded if they can get good value.
(my money is on him starting at LG for the Chiefs through 2011)
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
Waters has 2 years left on his current contract
He will retire from KC when that contract comes up, if not after next season
by Chiefsfan1970 on Feb 1, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
If we get one OL this draft and its a C/G, and maybe a RT for depth in later rounds
I won’t be too upset
didn't Grunhard suggest this?
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-- Yoda
And we all know Notre Dame Alumni are never wrong
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Are you doing your mock over at Mocking the draft?
If not, I was going to work on something even more awesomer.
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Never even occurred to me...
If I dont have one up by Wednesday feel free, if I dont have one up by then I wont get one up, I already have homework piling up at an astonishing rate.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Okidoki
It was going to look something like this. I’ll need to tweak it though
1 Tim Tebow
2a Suh
2b Berry
3 Mclain
4 Dez
5a golden tate
5b Okung
5c Jesus
UDFA: Mount Cody and that RB from Ol Miss
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Well since you have it done go ahead...
Might add a current player in the NFL
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
That's a pretty weak draft
No way Tebow is there for us
So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.
Probably should just use the 2-7th round picks to trade up and take him with the 4th pick
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
That is what I was going to say.
Probably won’t be there. No brainer at 5 since Seattle would pick him up at 6 since there is so much rain in seattle and tebows ability to walk on water.
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
LMFAO
Seattle would pick him up at 6 since there is so much rain in seattle and tebows ability to walk on water.
I think you’re right about that.
Although, I do like the “All Notre Dame” draft scenario.
So full of sh*t that toilet bowls have to wipe.
gatsby should do that one too.
Ohhh Brett...One more year! One more year! One more year!
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
I tell you what
you do your mock draft and I will redo the Notre Dame one over at Mocking the Draft.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
I closed my office door.
It’ll be up in an hour.
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
tim tebow
Payton manning better watch out once tim tebow starts doing commercials its over. That guy will definatly b a marketing machine I don’t know about his nfl play but I can pretty much garentee that if he don’t have a bust in the hall he will have a star on the walk of fame.
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by sexassassin on Feb 1, 2010 5:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Correction
Tebow is Jesus’ much holier and younger brother.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Please :(
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
I should've put a smiley face there, or that damn sarcasm font
I cant stand Tebow either.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
It was less about Tebow
All good Paratrooper :)
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
Im lost
With the semester back in full swing my brain is fried. I guess thats what i get for trying to be funny!
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
and I'm not advocating either way
because I’m not capable of analyzing that. I also wonder if we will even have Waters at all.
But, I’m just pointing out that I thought I recalled Grunhard advocating this. Perhaps he didn’t.
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Always in motion is the future.
-- Yoda
Came to Kansas City for a free agent workout in 2000 when the Chiefs convinced him to make the move to offensive line after working as a tight end in camp for the Cowboys the previous year … Was originally envisioned to be Tim Grunhard’s replacement at center before the club inked Casey Wiegmann in 2001 … Started the 2001 opener in place of an injured Wiegmann before moving into his current role at guard midway through that campaign
http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/brian_waters/
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by chief Stevie_k on Feb 1, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
I pretty much HATE it every time i see someone suggest...
….that moving Waters to center would absolutly work, AND that it would work well enough to fix our problem at center.
He hasn’t played the position in 10 years and, more importantly, he’s on the back side of his career and has shown signs of slipping this past season.
Moving a guy to center than hasn’t played it in 10 years and that only has another year (2 at BEST) left in his career makes no logical sense. If we need a center, let’s go get a center. We need to stop trying to fix our center and guard spots by drafting a tackle and wake up to the reality that we need a center and a guard.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Feb 1, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You with your logic and reasoning.
You stop that. =)
Absolutely agreed, TC. Rec’d.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
But you dont improve two spots with one player.
We drafted Alber to play LT. Its not like he just fell out of a tree. If we draft Okung to take the LT spot its not a 2 for 1 because we spent a first round pick two years ago.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
I agree
Yet a Chiefs #1 pick seems to have the shelf life of a turnip
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
It does seem that way
Hopefully Pioli and Co will find better prospects that have long careers with us.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
I tend to feel that if Pioli is as good as his research says he is, that we should get
Dez immediately. Pioli should be able to find a center and a NT thru FA or trade or in later rounds. Then he can draft either offense or defense after that. Although it sure would be nice to see our offense up and running again. So I go back and forth but depending on the job Pioli does overall, we could come out with a sweet offense.
Then at least upgrad the defense. I hope they get one or the other completely right. You know? Like some really obvious improvements on one side of the ball would be great. It would be nice not to have posts debating whether or not our defense or our offense is better than last years. It would be nice to KNOW. Crystal clear proof that we are imporoved.
I still think its worth the gamble to roll the dice on Tate falling to the second
and use the 1st on a position of more important need. Never in the history of the NFL has a WR taken a team from being bad to good.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
IF Tate isn’t there, Benn or Williams will be, or Barnes or Price or Gillyard or Shipley….etc.
I couldn’t name an ILB that would be a guaranteed improvement other than McClain and Spikes, and I would pass on Spikes for character concerns…
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 2:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I normally am the type of guy that would never take a LBer in the top 10 picks...
but if by some chance we upgrade the Nose by the draft then I think he is the guy. If we dont have an improved Nose by the draft then no sense in investing so highly in a linebacker who will have to shed blockers.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'd take LT, DT, and many other linebackers with a top 10 pick :D
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
Did you even read what I said?
There is no point in investing in elite Linebackers when you have a shitty D-Line. Ray Lewis can’t do his job without a badass nose tackle. In front of every great Linebacker there is an elite tackle taking up space and blockers…. Same goes with safeties, with ever great safety there is an elite line backer doing his job in the middle allowing the safety to roam.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
I agree but it also works the other way... all 11 players have to play together.
it doesn’t all come down to those front 3 or 4 lineman on whether or not a defense succeeds. pointless argument is pointless
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
Well duh...
but specifically if your DT is a turnstile and sucks then offensive line man are going to be able to get to the second level and block LB’s. and if your MLB sucks then the Safeties after to cover instead of being the “safe” guy to cover the field.
Look it up, every great MLB has a great to very good DT, every great Safety has a great to very good MLB.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
So who is Polamalu's "great" MLB cuz he was with Foote and Timmons
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
Bob Sanders' great MLB
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
Bob Sanders was great when they had Peterson...
He was never the same once he left for Jacksonville.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
Hasn't he been injured for 2 years straight haha
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
What point are you trying to make
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
your 100 percent right The Steelers have never had good linebackers
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
The steeler's have great LB's but not so much ILB their OLB's are dominant now but ILB are just meh
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
Farrior and Timmons are hardly Meh
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Not exactly beastly numbers just kinda meh.
Timmons has now played 3 seasons:
156 career tackles, 12 sacks, 1 int. 5 FF.
Farrior this seas had:
102 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 int, 1 ff.
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
Farrior had a pretty good season if you ask me
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
yeah i'll go with farrior having a good season but still nothing special and collectively just meh between the two of them.
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
It also boils down to their rolls with the team
I dont expect MLB’s to get a ton of sacks especially when the OLB are getting them. I have no idea how good those guys are in coverage.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
yeah i agree i don't know how timmons only has 75 tackles as an ILB though kind of odd.
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
He could just be playing a lot of coverage
Steelers do a lot of zone blitzing so with safeties coming Timmons could just be playing a deep zone, I really dont know.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Not me
If we drafted Spikes and then this fall he turns around and pokes a Raiders player in the eye, i would laugh.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
I would Cheer
Some payback and maybe that Denver guy wouldn’t suplex Charles anymore either
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
Yea that was crap
But we really took it to them in thier own house. I hope that was a sign of things to come!
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Pretty good guard???
Wasn’t Albert rated as THE top guard prospect, with potential to be moved to a tackle position in the NFL? You don’t have to convince me too hard if there is a top rated TACKLE worth taking in the top 5 this year. Just pull the trigger and we have made our line better in two/3 spots. Made our runningbacks better, given Matt C our “Franchise QB hopeful” some more time to operate. And given our wideouts time to get open.
If D Alexander can break off for a grand with a solid line. Why can’t bowe, chambers do it?
Let’s Solve Trenches first.
What about Brian Waters
And don’t even say “move him to center”
why not?
somebody with such a high level of expertise argue why Waters can’t make the move to the position was signed to be groomed for?
then…….explain how he wouldn’t be an upgrade to Rudy.
i’ll be waiting.
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
by chief Stevie_k on Feb 1, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Im pretty sure
That they already know if Albert can play guard at the NFL level. I am sure some time during practice that he played the position. I am also sure before they draft a LT they would talk to Albert and discuss the move. It would not be a total surprise for him if they make the move.
My options at #5
1.) Eric Berry (won’t be there)
2.) trade down
3.) Rolando McClain
4.) Dez Bryant
5.) Russell Okung
6.) Derrick Morgan
Man crush on Eric Berry.
My options...
1. Berry
2. McClain
3. Bryant
4. Graham
5. Davis
by Larryemcdaniel on Feb 1, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
my list is similar
With trade down at the top
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 2:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Would def love a trade down
and grab McClain or Graham.
by Larryemcdaniel on Feb 1, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
I'm on the Dez bandwagon
I just don’t think that safety and linebacker are our most pressing needs. Those are great players but looking down the road i think we can get them in future drafts as opposed to getting the consensus no. 1 wr because i don’t see us drafting in the top 5 again for a long long time. I see more positives going this route, teams can’t game plan against Charles and we find out if we really have a qb. with our new coaches i’m really stoked for the new season. c’mon Scott get us some more talent.
Name one WR that ever made a bad team good
The Lions drafted the consensus best WR 3 years in a row and was only successful once, WR traditionally is a huge gamble.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
please don't compare Millen with Pioli
which is in essence what your doing. we need balance to our team and this is how i would do it. detroit had a lot more problems than we do at this point they have gunther.
No I didn't
Millen took the consensus top WR’s and like most consensus top WR’s they failed. Very rarely do highly rated WR’s pan out like they are expected to, Millen is a dumbshit not because he took the top rated WR’s but because he is too dumb to realize that you dont build good teams with WR’s.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
i think you've got to stop assuming any pick is instantly going to make a "bad team good"
in my opinion, the WR showed far less improvement throughout this season than the Oline did.
if we can’t get rid of the #5 pick, i’d rather gamble a huge contract on a dez bryant than an olineman that can potentially mess everything up
Great teams are built starting at the ball, bad teams are built away from the ball.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
so you want the chiefs to start over, again?
third time in three years?
Um what?
I dont want to spend a top 5 pick on a WR, hell I didn’t really want to spend a top 5 pick on Berry. I want to use elite picks on players near the ball. Doesn’t have to be on the Defensive line again. Offensive line, or MLB
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with your logic.......
I would prefer MLB in the first because there will be definite OL upgrades available in round 2
by Hail2DaChiefs on Feb 1, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
invariably drafting a LT would cause us to have to shuffle things
in an area where i, for once, saw tangible progress.
whoever gets drafted at number 5 is going to be owed a lot of money. do you want to risk messing up other positions in the name of some cliche?
Cliche?
How is building at the ball a cliche? Great teams have great lines. And then when the lines are set up you go to your RB’s and LB’s after that you go to your skill players.
If the d-line lives up to its potential then you move on to the LB’s, if the O-line is good then you move on to the RB’s (we aren’t taking a RB in the first round).
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
because of course truly quality teams are going to have quality big men
that doesn’t mean spending a pick as high as the chiefs have on anything other than a big man is a waste. the lions are hardly anything i’d want to follow, in any regard. they’ve been such a cluster**** for so long that i’d say trying to analyze or relate to anything they’ve done is dangerous, even their mistakes.
i will say that i don’t like picks this high at all. considering the risk involved with any position or player (even the can’t miss types) and the money involved, i’d prefer the chiefs tried to get rid of it.
i liked the way our line played towards the end of the year. certainly not great, and i didn’t get any memories of games past, but on an overall crappy team it was an area where i did see improvement. assuming we CAN’T get rid of it, i don’t see how anyone can argue dropping a big contract on a skill position where we DO suck, like WR. assuming we don’t take the advice of al davis.
But you can't discount that...
The Lions and Raiders have gone for the flashy big name player and it got them absolutely no where. The good teams have been succesful because they haven’t done that.
I would take Okung becasue he potentially can help upgrade 2 positions, UNLESS we are able to upgrade the Nose then I take McClain. Im not going to take Dez Bryant with a top 5 pick when Golden Tate could be there in the 2nd and potentially fits this offense better.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
hey averagegatsby
i also believe in building in the trenches but where we’re picking and what we have on the team Dez makes sense to me. next i take the best center in the draft, Poncey than the nt with the most promise, thomas, joseph, weston or who ever scottie has at the top and than a rush olb. those are my postions i feel are our most pressing needs. oh yeah i’m liking kao misi. balance is the key.
I believe in building the trenches
I just don’t think Okung is the right fit for us.
Pioli is not going to
ignore the trenches the way the Lions did. Taking Dez with the first pick makes more sense and helps our team get better. The interior of line can be addressed in this draft and we can still take a skill position in the first round. No one is arguing that Dez is the answer to all our problems, but he is certainly better than Golden Tate. Cassel needs the reliable target and not our current record setting slippery hand receivers.
Dez Braynt is light years beyond Crabtree
I have been stating this since the 2008 NCAA season. Crabtree doesn’t even compare to Bryant.
08 NCAA Season:
Crabtree: 97 rec. 1165 yards 19 TDs 12.0 avg
Bryant: 87 rec. 1480 yards 19 TDs 17.0 avg + 2 Punt Return TDs
I watch a lot of college ball, and Crabtree was nice, but he is a underneath route runner. He got the bulk of his yards, and TDs off of bubble screens, and shallow routes. He was not much of a threat down field. He doesn’t have good top end speed, and his stature hasn’t translated to the NFL yet. Dez Bryant was effective on shallow routes, and deep down the field. He has the size to come in to the NFL and make a impact immediately. He is also versatile. He possesses the speed and suddenness to return punts to the house. Dez Bryant is definitely a better NFL prospect that Crabtree.
Side note: Its not that McClain is better than Curry, its that Curry did not fit our scheme. McClain does. Thats why he is a possibility at the 5th pick.
that doesnt matter, a football player is a football player.
Him missing the last 7-8 games, doesn’t mean he’s any weaker.
by Larryemcdaniel on Feb 1, 2010 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Also...
If this guy says Dez Bryant is WAY better then Crabtree… then Dez has to be pretty legit, b/c I think Crabtree is insane good.
Plus, you wanna help out your QB? Well I think Cassel got sacked a lot was b/c his WRs couldn’t get open! This could be a good move… I just wish we could slide back and get him though.
Man crush on Eric Berry.
Cassel wasn't sacked very often once Larry left
which means that once 2.7 was gone defenses had to start respecting the big play capability of Jamaal.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
Which is also why I keep arguing that a big “thumper” back is NOT the right fit to backup Charles…
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 2:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I dunno, I think the right "thumper" back will do, LJ was just well past his prime
if you have a young guy who is still trying to prove something who is willing to move a pile then he can be.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
Gotta disagree a bit there, stag
I think that having JCharles do another 30-40 short-yard carries over the course of the year, for example on goal line runs between the tackles, maybe not the best use for his carries; seems like short yardage and goal line may be the best place to look to limit his workload as we try to keep him healthy over the next few years. Yeah, I like the idea of Anthony Dixon, think he will do very well as a pro.
Just try stripping the ball from those gargantuan rolls of fat!
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
obviously free agency dictates SO much of this...
What about Brian Waters? He’s almost done in a Chiefs uniform and we must plan for that. Unlike King C. I love Waters, and yes he was a part of our best offensive lines. But that was years ago now, and he was playing alongside Roaff, Shields and so on. So, I’m not sure he’s as elite as he once was.
I just think it’s wise to invest in a top tackle prospect again that’s all. Even if it costs Albert to move over. He’s supposed to be “talented” enough to handle that.
I say we keep Waters where he’s most comfortable and hope that he holds on for as long as possible. Until then, we must invest and reinvest along the line…even if it’s early in the draft. Just my opinion
i could see this happening...
If Brandon Graham runs a good 40 time, i could see the Chiefs grabbing him at #5. DE/Pass rushing OLBs usually go high (think Orakpo), and I wouldn’t put it past Pioli to select the unexpected! Also, if Sean Witherspoon is there at the top of the 2nd, i could see us grabbing him as well. Unlike Curry in 08, Witherspoon is versatile enough to play inside on a 34 defense. He is also a vocal leader, something the Chiefs lack.
McCoy falling to the second round
Then I’d be happy if the Chiefs pick him up there.
Colt or Gerald or Anthony ?
Colt will be there, but would be a mistake, gerald won’t be there and isn’t a fit anyway…
You're either growing or you're dying, there ain't no third direction
-Big Tom Callahan
by stagdsp on Feb 1, 2010 2:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe he meant Mays???
That would be a nice pick in early in the 2nd round. If he’s still there…
I dont want Mays at all
Second coming of Roy Williams big hitter who is a liability in coverage.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Ummm...
I would absolutely take the second coming of a 5-time pro bowl safety in the 2nd round. Granted, Roy has had some injuries and probably has lost a step as he’s gotten older. But with good corners, he was a heck of a playmaker.
Roy was consistently burned in coverage
Mays sucks, mark my word. The last thing we need is a Safety who can’t cover.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
FYP.
The last thing we need is another Safety who can’t cover.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
Thats what I meant...
Mays peaked as a Freshman at USC, he was never the same after.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
He's got freakish measurables.
He’ll move right back up the boards after the combine and everyone falls in love with him again.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
And everyone else can have him
He has Al Davis written all over him.
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
I am not too excited to take him there...
I am a KU fan but I am telling you that Denarrio Alexander is an effing BEAST, he will be a flat out stud in the NFL. Many have him going way down in the later rounds too. If he is there in the 3rd or even farther, you take him and you are set at WR. Mark my words
Really? Why are you against him?
Have you seen him play?
by readANDgold58 on Feb 1, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
McClain is the pick!
Dez Bryant is a luxery pick….we are not in the shape to be taking sexy picks.
McClain is the smartest safest pick that automatically changes the face of our defense. He calls plays he keeps guys in their right position. He is a leader and is only a junior. He is only gonna get better. He plays a very important position in the 34. LB is crucial in stopping the run and helping in coverage and blitzing the QB…he can do all those things.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 1, 2010 3:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
And he gets Mays off the field
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
And he's 20.
If Pioli grades him high and he turns out to be a stud, he’d be in the league a good long time.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
There's nobody that we all talk about that I would hate to see at 5...
but I’d personally take a leader on defense. McClain would mean more overall to the team than a LT that turns out to be…well exactly like Albert was towards the end of the season. And I agree…Dez would be a luxory…can’t afford those right now
Exactly
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 1, 2010 3:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
For sure
He is a guy you build your defense around. He is already very knowledgable in the 34….probably knows it better than most of our guys we have.
He is so smart and has that passion for football that Pioli and Haley talk about.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 1, 2010 3:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Smart+passion
is exactly what Pioli is looking for. I can’t really see them going any other direction but McClain if he’s there…..
by Hail2DaChiefs on Feb 1, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
McClain is our guy. No way you can pass him over…if they did their word would be crap! McClain is the epitome of ‘The Right 53’ he is the beat LB at the college level as a junior that I have ever seen.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 1, 2010 3:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It'd be nice to just see him be to the Chiefs what he was to the Tide
what more could you ask for? He’s already done it…kind of like a GM who has some rings, and some new coaches that have some rings.
Davis is starting to look more and more sexy to me
at #5
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
The only thing more lame than mock draft's is the sarcasm font.
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 1, 2010 3:31 PM CST reply actions
Are you sure it's Davis
Or are you really just looking at that Mount Cody picture with no shirt on calling it sexy.. Lol
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Feb 1, 2010 3:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Cue picture in 3...2...1...
covers eyes
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
How much more money could that guy make himself if he busts his ass for the next 3 months...
and comes to the combine and looks much better.
listed at 6'2" 325, I dont believe it though
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
There is no way.
I wish either d-line would have put some effort out. It was like the NBA all star game and I hate the NBA.
Check it fools
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/2/1/1287746/chiefs-super-radical-mock-draft
Ohhh Brett...One more year! One more year! One more year!
Superbowl Prediction - Colts 41 Saints 23
by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 3:56 PM CST reply actions
Jesus would be a free safety man......all day.
by Hail2DaChiefs on Feb 1, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
I picture HeyZeus as more of a roaming blitzing outside linebacker
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by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Cody could play gaurd
after we move Waters to center.
Yeah...but we beat the donkeys like a rented mule.
Cody could play centre
We wouldn’t need a RG or a LG.
We’d have the best Oline in the league with a LT-Cody-RT
Ohhh Brett...One more year! One more year! One more year!
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It might be kind of tough
to get 7 guys on the line of scrimmage and still have everyone in bounds.
Yeah...but we beat the donkeys like a rented mule.
6 WR spreads!
COVER THIS!
Ohhh Brett...One more year! One more year! One more year!
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by craig in calgary on Feb 1, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
rec
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
If we want Dez Bryant....
we should trade down. 5 is too high for him. We can trade down for a later pick in the 1st (or 2). Pick up him and a lower tier lineman.
Best scenario for us for a trade down...
Would be for team(s) to fall in love with Clausen and/or Bradford. I’m personally rooting for these guys to be unbelievable for the next 3 months or so.
Okung ... been saying it for some time now, and I'll say it again
that’s my “pet pick” and I’m sticking with it … as Bunting said:
You’d be surprised how quickly that offensive line would improve if you got a legit offensive tackle in there and kick Branden Albert inside. Some good things could happen.
amen, brother
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whilock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Looking in my Pioli "shocks the fans" crystal ball
Chiefs select with the #5 pick overall — Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa.
Bewsaf
in terms of "fan shock" ... that would do it
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
Whilock Rocks!
hi, Mo!
5 minutes!!!
Bulaga
If SP goes o-line in the first then Bulaga’s the pick. He has been well coached in CFB and has great potential IMHO.
We still can’t rule out McClain, Berry or Dez. All three would help the team improve next season.
I would still pick Bryant. He is better than many think and will be good in the NFL. The Chiefs should take him and improve the interior line and defense in later rounds. Cassel needs the reliable target and he and Charles will have our offense packing a punch..
If people fall in love with clausen and bradford...
then that means Rams take one of them therefore hindering our chances of a trade down scenerio. We need Suh to go #1, for sure. Lions and Bucs will not take qb, leaving both qb’s available for Washington to choose from. I would think they go qb with a new sheriff in town or take Okunk to protect qb. They need lt too. If both qb’s are available then we will trade down for sure. Or do you think if only 1 of the qb’s is available that we have better chances of trading down as teams might get trigger happy? interesting thought. My opinion, the league is qb driven so I think Rams take qb. Su goes to detroit, Mccoy to Tampa. Leaving washington with qb or lt (okung)or safety (berry). I think that is the more likely of the scenerios.
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
Makes sense
"For what we are about to see next, we must enter quietly into the realm of genius." Scott "Young Frankenstein" Pioli
I thought Shannahan already said he was excited to work with Campbell...guess it doesn't matter
Washington’s line was a mess, aging receivers, and not a great run game. Not a great situation for a rookie QB to come into. Their leading rusher was Portis with 494 yards.
It’s just about trading down. not too sure if Berry was available if we’d get offers but if we can’t trade down than take Berry/McClain – Happy with either, just would prefer McClain.
well you aren't going to be able to trade down and take Berry.
Pitchers and Catchers report February 17th... And so begins my masochistic addiction.
by averagegatsby on Feb 1, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
I say no to Okung or Bryant
to me Dez Bryant has michael crabtree(holdout) written all over him and with okung, well we already have a legit LT so why waste the #5 pick to pick another LT, doesnt make sense to me when we could pick a guard later in the draft and accomplish the same thing
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